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i'll now have david boudich, assistant director of the f.b.i., say a few words. >> thank you, sheriff. the f.b.i. is here with our state and local partners, as well as our partners from the a.t.f. and we are here to essentially treat the-- assure that all the wound read extracted, and ultimately, public safety is the number one goal at this point. and we will work as a law enforcement community to assure that we have done everything we can in our power to find, locate, and apprehend these subjects. at this point, i know one of your questions is going to be is this a terrorist incident? i will tell you right now, we do not know if this is a terrorist incident. so we start from the beginning, working with our local partners. we take the presumption is may be, it may not be, but we will work hand in hand with them from the beginning. if things change, we are here from the get-go, and there is no steps lost as the investigation proceeds.
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it back over to the chief. >> >> so very quickly, after the initial response, we have several hundred people that were in the building that are not injured. those eople have been taken to a location and they are part of the investigation. in addition to, that we know that this is a human incident, and this is a tragedy, and we know we've got a lot of folks out there that are very concerned and very worried about their loved ones that may have been at that facility today. we have set up an area at the hernandez center at the corner of thid and sierra way in san bernadino for family members to go for information. we will push in information out to that for those family members as we can. also, the sheriff's department put out the crime tip hot line number. if anybody has any information, we'd very much like to hear from you. so with that, i will take a couple of questions, start with rob. >> reporter: do you have any information on this event that was happening, that apparently upwards of three gunmen stormed into? >> i don't. i have heard everything that it was a meeting to a potential, like, a lunch-type gathering,
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that's not confirmed. that is very preliminary. it's my understanding that most of the people that were wounded, moment of the victims were all centrally located in one area of the facility. >> reporter: have any weapons or body armoanything like that been recovered? >> in terms of the employees, it's my understanding this facility has both state and county employees, as well as folks that work for a number of organizations. the inland regional center serves a number of organizations that treat mental illness-type issues and that sort of stuff. i know that state and local county employees work there. i do not know if any of them are the victims or who they are at this point. >> reporter: do we know if any children are among the victims? >> i do not have any information that any children were involved. >> reporter: have there been any weapons found. >> reporter: the weapons used and the number of people involved, given what you have in the way of and he was witness accounts, would you characterize this as an organized event? what were these men using and shooting at people with?
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came prepared, that they were dressed and equipped in a way to indicate that they were prepared, and they were armed with long guns not handguns. i do not know what type of long guns. >> reporter: how were they dressed. >> i do not know we do not have any weapons recovered at this point. >> could you move a little bit. there's a shadow. >> reporter: can you ask for clarification. you said upwards of 14 ? what does "upwards" mean? >> the preliminary number we have right now is that there are 14 people that are deceased and our count is another 14 people that have been taken to various hospitals for significant gunshots. we also have a number of other people that may have had some minor types of injuries-- they fell down in the course of nature. but roughly about 14 we believe are wounded. >> reporter: were witnesses witnesses . >> reporter: inside the video that might give you video evidence of what happened? >> i would imagine there are but we're not that are that far into
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>> reporter: would you mind repeating the nuts and bolts again? the whole thing? let's-- >> the building is still being searched. is there the possibility that there are more deceased or wounded inside of that regional center? possibility, yes. i don't think we're comfortable saying no at this point. >> reporter: have the bomb technicians recovered anything which is or looked like like an i.e.d. in the building. >> as the teams were going through the building searching for the suspects and searching for victims there were some things in the building that were not immediately identifiable that caused them some concern. as a result of that, we have techs on site checking some of that out. i do not know if they were brought in by the suspects. we do not know if they are bombs of any sorkt just simply things that as our teams were moving through said that need to be looked at. >> reporter: they haven't taken anything apart or destroyed anything? >> i don't have any information on that. >> reporter: one step to the left, please. thank you, sir. >> reporter: have you found any vehicles that you believe
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>> reporter: have witnesses said the gunmen said anything? did they say anything? >> we don't have anything specific from those witnesss. we're in the early stages of talking to them. >> reporter: do you have any other active scenes at this point? >> this is the only active scene we're working. security tapes that may have been shot? >> that is part of the investigation. i just don't have that at this point. >> reporter: can you talk darker s.u.v.? you can talk about that? >> that's all we have. very generic, upwards of three suspects, darker s.u.v. >> reporter: the suspects were in camouflage ginever heard camouflage. >> reporter: what were they wearing? >> just to be clear, upwards of three. does that mean there could be more than three? >> i have repeatedly been told the number is three but keep in mind this is information that flowing in as people are talking to witnesses very quickly. as we put everything together, some of these may change. we know these are fluid situations, and some of the information we put out now may change a little bit in the future. >> reporter: is there any description about these suspects?
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we're doing everything we can to keep this area safe. we arecracying other facilities in the area that we think may be similar or may be somewhere, but we don't have any information or any credible threats to any other facilities at this point. but, obviously, we're all on a heightened sense of alert. we would ask the public that they be on a heightened sense of alert, that they're watching out for those things, and if they come across information contact us and let us investigate it i put out what i have, just three suspects. >> reporter: were they wearing masks, chief? >> one report i heard masks were involved but i don't know that to be definitive at all. >> reporter: do you have any right now? >> yes, not going to talk about. >> reporter: did the gunmen attack, during the shooting? >> not that i'm aware of. >> reporter: any sort of threats made prior to this incident? >> that's part of the investigation. we're not going to talk now. >> reporter: i'm not a media person, but-- and i just want to
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chiefs, all the fire chiefs and everything for your response. i appreciate that. >> thank you very much. >> reporter: how long did the attack last? do you have any idea how long it lasted? >> a few minutes. >> reporter: based on how well armed--... >> pelley: so, troubling news from police chief jared burguand, of the san bernadino police. the gunmen involved in this mass shooting have gotten away. the police don't have a description except one witness described a dark s.u.v. the chief said that 14 people are dead, 14 people are wounded. he cautioned that that number was preliminary and could change. this was an assault on a building. ago. 14 dead, 14 wounded, and the
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situation in which police officers went into the building, did not find the gunman. he has said that witnesses have described as many as three gunmen, and as the chief put it, they were dressed in military-style gear. they were equipped, as he said, they were carrying rifles, not handguns. and they have gotten away from the scene. a dragnet all over southern california now for the people who perpetrated this attack. we're going to go back in and listen to the san bernadino police chief jared berguand. they inside shooting? several minutes. >> were they still there when the police arrived, when initial responding officers arrived. >> we don't know. our police officers have not engaged or exchanged gunfire with anybody but we don't know
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>> reporter: i don't know if you covered this or not, were the vast majority of the dead or wounded in one centralized location in the facility? >> yes, in the same general area of the facility. >> reporter: in the conference room? >> reporter: i'm sorry if it's assumption, chief, that they targeted that particular room, those particular people? >> i think we're a little too early in the investigation to even make that assumption. we don't know what the motive is at this point. >> reporter: did they take humans at any point. were people tied up and held in a room? >> we don't have any information that they took any hostages. >> reporter: what kinds of weapons do they use? can you describe what kinds of weapons they used? >> long guns is what i've been told. i think there are people that speculate what type of long guns those are, but i have-- i don't want to put out a specific type of gun. i just want to say it was a long gun not a handgun. >> reporter: rifle or shotgun? >> they came in with a purpose. they came in with the intent to do something. >> reporter: there was any threat made to the facility prior to this incident? >> i don't have specifics on that.
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going to cut this off. we will be back every hour on the hour to provide an update, even if we don't have anything specifically, we will come back to you every hour on the hour, at least for the next several hours to provide an update. >> reporter: at the top of the hour? >> at the top of the hour is fine. >> pelley: that was the police chief, san bernadino county, jared burguandto, recap, the suspects have gotten way. they do not have a description of the suspects. 14 people are dead, 14 people have been wounded. we have a witness to all of this on the phone now. her name is sally abdel-mcgee. you can tell us what you saw and heard? >> i was in my office in building two, and i had a really big window to my left. you know, i was working, it was just a normal day, and then all of i of a sudden i heard shots fired, and it was from an automatic weapon.
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unusual, why, you know, why would we hear shots. so i kind of made a joke and i turned around and my office mate, and, you know, said, "what the heck is that?" and i said, tsounds like gunfire." and we both look out the window. as we look out the window, second set of shots goes off-- pop-pop. hoff. and we saw a man fall to the floor, and we just looked and we saw three men dressed in all black, military-- military attire with vests on, holding assault rifles, and they-- they opened up the doors to building 3. and one of them opened up the door to building 3. he starts to shoot-- you know, shoot all over into the room.
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have conferences in or trainings or just, you know, some odd events. we're social workers. we help consumers-- we help people with disabilities just to live better lives and for inclusion, and we advocate for them. we're not doing anything controversial. we're not-- we're helping the community. i don't know why someone would
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this is wbz news and we continue to follow the breaking news from california as we come in the air with you tonight. a mass shooting in san bernardino with 14 people dead and at least 14 wounded. >> the scene is still very active at this hour. lee say that it is likely -- police say that it is likely that three suspects opened fire on a social services building in california. stores, office buildings, schools in the area are all on lockdown. we want to begin with jim armstrong. >> reporter: you heard the they were certainly preparing us to hear that both of those of the number of fatalities will increase because of the 14 or injured a lot of those injuries are quite serious and could unfortunately turn into
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this happened after as many as three gunmen stormed into an office building in san bernardino california and spent several minutes in sight shooting at everyone with whom they could come in contact. this happened at about 2:00 boston time and 11:00 california time. they searched the building for possible explosives. >> as the team was searching for suspects in victims there were things in the building that were not immediately identifiable that caused concern. as a result of that we had some people on-site checking, that a. i don't know if they were planted by the suspects. we don't know if they are bombs. they are -- checking that out. i don't know if they were planted by the suspects. we don't know if they are bombs. we are working through all of this.
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many as three people open fire after entering the building. this is a social services office that provides assistance to children and adults who have developmental disabilities. the facilitator says conference of area where the shooting happened was being rented today by an outside organization. she didn't provide any further information. employees ended up hiding and locking themselves in their offices and were able to send frantic text messages to loved ones. let's hear from two family members who received those text s. >> she texted me and said she was inside and there was a shooter outside and she was locked in her office. she said, i love you. i came over here. >> people shot, in the office waiting for the cops. >> she's okay?
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[ crying ] i am lost in an office -- locked in an office. >> reporter: witnesses or texting their family and friends. they saw their own coworkers lying on the ground. one woman heard from her doctor who was shot. she said other coworkers were playing dead on the office floor in order to avoid being shot by gunmen. officers did go inside heavily armed, tactical officers went into these buildings to engage the shooters. what we are learning now is that all three, as many as three , had left the building at that point. as many as 700 people work in each of these two buildings. there are officers inside looking for possible evidence were ideally any suspects. as far as we know right now all of the wounded have been taken to nearby hospitals.
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appear to have gotten away. they could be somewhere in southern california right now. the only disruption we have is that they appear to have been dressed in some kind of tactical gear, military gear. one witness reported seeing as many as three men getting into an suv and leave the scene. at this point that is all we have as far as the whereabouts. we have no idea where they are. what motive could have led to this horrific events? >> it was stunning to hear the fbi agent say we don't know if this is a terrorist incident. it's worth noting there were 670 people working in that context. while they say they have not given the all clear, it is still not a secured location. it will still take a lot of time to get all of those people out of them and make sure >> what they are saying is they have two different groups they
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facility. there were those that were not harmed at all, perhaps in a different part of the building altogether. they are all being taken to one location so they can be accounted for. there are many witnesses, hundreds of eyewitnesses who report seeing the gunman entering the building and shooting. they also have to be interviewed as part of this massive undertaking to find out what exact way happened. they are trying to find the suspects. >> jim armstrong watching the breaking get those. we have seen this sadly, too many times, almost every couple of days at this point. almost every mass shooting has been one armed suspect. in this case four hours there seem to be -- seemed to be no clarity, only talk about it. moments ago we heard from this one eyewitness who says she very clearly saw three men all wearing longsleeved t-shirts
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guns and lots and lots of ammo. it seems crystal clear that they are indeed searching for three people. >> she said she was a social worker working in her office. let's listen to what she told scott pelley. >> i was in my office in building 2 and i have a really big window. i was working. all of a sudden i heard shots fired. it was from an automatic weapon. this is very unusual. why would we her shots? -- here shots -- hear shots? i said what is that and my colleague said that's gunfire. then we heard several shots go off, bang, bang, bang. we saw a
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we then looked and we saw three men dressed in all black military attire holding assault rifles. [ crying ] they opened up the doors to building 3 and one started to shoot into the room that would typically have conferences or training for various events. we are social workers. we help people with disabilities to live better lives. we advocate for them. we aren't doing anything controversial. we are helping the community. i don't know why someone would
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issue right now. in the first hour or so people were saying, why would someone want to attack this building were social workers are working at a nonprofit that helps people with disabilities. now it becomes clear that it will be very significant to understand and figure out which outside group perhaps, was in this conference center that she described. someone told scott -- scott pelley that it outside group had rented that room today. >> the police did confirm that most of the 14 fatalities were in that specific area. you asked the question about terrorism. was this terrorism was the question. the answer was, we don't know. that sparks a debate almost over semantics. this is a terrifying ordeal. what is your definition of
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