we'll have the adisisnssistant director say a few words. >> fbi is here with our state and local partners as well as partners from the atf. we are here to essentially assure that all of the wounded are extracted and public safety's the number one goal at this upon. we will work as law enforcement community to assure that we have done everything we can in our power to find, locate, apprehend the subjects. at this point, i know one of your questions is going to be, is this a terrorist incident. i will tell you we do not know if this is a terrorist incident. we start from beginning working with local partners we take the presumption it may be, it may not be but we will work hand in hand with them from the beginning. if things change we're here from the get-go and no steps lost as the investigation proceeds. i'm going it turn it back over to chief. >> quickly, after the initial

response, we have several hundred people in the building that are not injured. those people have been taken to a safe location and part of the investigation. in addition to that, we know this is a human incident and tragedy. we've got a lot of folks concerned and worried about loved ones that may be at the facility. we set up a place for family members to go for information. we will push information out to that for family members as we can. also sheriff's department put out the crime tip hot line number if anybody has information. we'd very much like to hear from you. a couple of questions. >> [ inaudible ]. >> i don't. i heard everything a meeting to potential lunch type gathering for the holidays. that's not confirmed. that's preliminary.

it's my understanding most of the people that were wounded, victims, were all centrally located in one area of the facility. >> employees? >> in terms of employees the facility has state and county as well as folks that work for a number of organizations. the center serves a number of organizations that treat mental illness type issues and that sort of stuff. i don't -- i know that state and local county employees work there. i do not know if any are victims or who they are. >> tell us what type of weapon -- >> i do not have any information any children were involved. >> on the weapons used and number of people involved here, what do you have in way of evidence? can you characterize this as an organized event? what were these men shooting people with in. >> these are people that came prepared. they were dressed and equipped in a way to indicate they were

prepared and they were on with long guns not handguns. i do not know what type. >> [ inaudible ]. >> any weapons recovered. >> we do not have weapons recovered at this point. >> [ inaudible ]. >> sorry. >> clarification. you said upwards of 14 dead what happen does upwards mean. >> preliminary number is 14 people that are deceased, and our count is another 14 people taken to various hospitals for significant injuries, potentially related to gunshots. we have a number off other people that may have had minor types of injuries, fell down in the course of fleeing or something of that nature. roughly 14 we believe wounded. >> security cameras outside the building? >> i imagine there are but we're not that far into the investigation. >> [ inaudible ]. >> whole thing, i think --

>> is there a possibility there are more deceased or more inside the center? >> i think that could be a possibility. >> have the bomb technicians recovered anything which is or looked like ied inside. >> as the teams were. searching for the suspect and victims some things that were not identifiable that caused them come certain. we have bomb techs checking some of that out. i do not know if they were brought in by the suspects. we do not know if they are bombs. simply things as teams moving through, that needs to be looked at morallmorally. >> they haven't taken anything apart. >> i don't have information. >> [ inaudible ]. >> witnesses said the gunman

said -- did they say anything. >> we don't have anything specific from the witnesses. we're in the early stages of talking to them. >> this is the only active scene that we're working. >> what about security tapes that may have been shot inside? >> that is part of the investigation. i don't have that at this point. >> talk about the suspect's vehicle? >> that's all we have ep upwards of three suspects, dark suv that fled. i never heard camouflage. >> upwards of three, does that mean there could be more? >> i have repeatedly been told the number's three. keep in mind, this in is information flowing in as people were talking to witnesses quickly. some of this may change. we know these are fluid situations. some information we put out may change in the future. >> [ inaudible ]. >> as far as people in the area, we're doing everything we can to keep this area safe.

addressing other facilities in the area may be similar but we don't have information or credible threats to any other facility. but obviously, all on a heightened sense of alert. we ask the public they be on a heightened sense of alert they're watching out for those things. they come out with information, contact us and let us investigate it. >> [ inaudible ]. >> i put out what i have. >> wearing masks? the gunman? >> one report is masks were involved but i don't know that to be definitive. >> anything right now? >> not going to talk about it. >> say anything at all during the shootings. >> not that i'm aware of. >> any threats made prior to -- >> that's part of the investigation. we're not going to talk specifically about that now. >> [ inaudible ]. >> thank you to fellow agencies, fire chiefs and everything for your response. appreciate that.

>> thank you. >> [ inaudible ]. >> a few minutes. >> [ inaudible ]. >> people in the field go into the field with what they have. officers have high caliber weapons, carry assaultqw[q rifl most officers carry handguns. officers arrived on scene went in with what they had. >> do you know where the suspects are? >> we do not know where the suspects are. >> how is the fbi getting involved in this? is there a representative, maybe they want to talk. >> we know historically that some of the investigations can turn into potential federal prosecution type thing. at this point we don't know that to be the case. but it's bettor have on scene from the beginning so they are active part of the investigation. in addition, being from the

federal government they bring to the table tremendous resources to help us in doing our job. >> we have no information at this point to indicate that this is terrorist related in the traditional sense that people may be thinking. minimum we have a domestic terrorist type situation that occurred here. >> [ inaudible ]. >> we don't. >> any sense that -- [ inaudible ]. >> only thing i'm comfortable saying at this point is that the flvgs we have is that they came prepared to do what they did as if they were on a mission. >> how long were they inside shooting. >> i don't know specifically. several minutes. >> were the gunmen still there when the police arrived? >> we don't know. our officers have not engaged or exchanged gun fire with anybody but don't know if they were on scene when we arrived. >> were vast majority dead or

wounded in one centralized location. >> yes, same general area of the facility. >> sorry about the assumption but they targeted that particular room, those particular people? >> we're too early in the investigation to make that assumption. we don't know what the motive is at this point. >> held in a room [ inaudible ]. >> we don't have information they took hostages. >> long guns is what i've been told. i think people speculate what type of long guns those are. i don't want to put out a pe specific type. it's only a long gun not a handgun. they came in with i purpose. they came in with intent to do something. >> [ inaudible ]. >> i don't have specifics. with that, we're going to cut this off. we will be back every hour on the hour to provide update even

if we don't have anything specifically, we will come back to you every hour on the hour at least for the next several hours to provide an update. >> top of the hour? >> top of the hour is fine. >> thank you. >> listening to the police chief in san bernardino, california. updating us with what they know and headline here, up to 14 dead, 14 people injured in that facility that's in san bernardino today. up to three shooters presumed to have fled. s.w.a.t. teams going to the building. but they presume they have fled. a chilling remark there at the end, he says they came prepared as if they were on a mission. the fbi saying they do not know if this is terrorism. the chief noting that ultimately it is, whether it's the kind we tend to think of or domestic terrorism, certainly a horrible loss of life here.

suspects could have gotten away in an suv. they have a lookout for a dark-colored suv. the men marched into a meeting going on. wasn't sure if it was a holiday get-together. but all of the victims were shot in a central part of one of the buildings on this facility. it's part of the developmental disables center. government workers, state, and county workers. as a result of this, there have been security precautions taken in other government buildings in the area as well as hospitals. the area still very much on high alert because of unknowns on this attack. there's a live view. >> another building to the left of the facility where this took place. if the camera widens out -- not sure where it is.

>> it's above it. above it is where the facility took place. tom costello watching along with us. >> yet again, this country's dealing with mass murder. at least 14 people dead, up to 14 dead, what his exact words were. 14 injured. his point was, minimum, this is a domestic terror. so this is terrorism in some fashion. what we don't know is whether there's a nexus to foreign players in any way. are foreign actors involved or foreign state or foreign terrorist organization involved. he reiterated that point from calls to police, witnesses who said there may be as many as three individuals who are involved in this mass shooting, and the police chief saying, still now, at what is it now, 1:30 or so on the west coast, they are still -- 2:30 on the west coast, going on assumption

of three suspects loose. assumption of nearly three suspects on the loose. faa put flight restrictions in place over this area as they try to work their police choppers to look for the suspect and ask the media back off, give them as much space as possible. important to note they are trying to answer the question, who was involved and is there more than one vehicle. looking for one vehicle that black suv, described by some as a possible yukon seen leaving the area at a high rate of speed, possibly with one or three suspects involved. this is an unusual situation, at least in my experience. covering quite a few mass casualty and shooting incidents. three hours later we are still looking for perpetrators and there may be as many as three on

the loose. this will go down as an unusual situation here. >> something that may have slipped by quickly in the confrenz, one reporter asked the chief, are you pursuing active leads and he paused and said, yes and i don't want to go further. perhaps a hint they have something to go on in the search. what we heard certainly not comforting from the standpoint of i think the takeaway not only the horrible loss of life and injured here, tom, this is still ongoing, there is a clear and present danger. schools on lockdown, government buildings protected, hospitals protected. three people, who the chief says came prepared as if they were on a mission are still on the loose. >> mass killer or killers on the loose that is a terrifying statement but from the mouth of the police chief in san bernardino, california. they are looking for right now

whoever is responsible for this, whoever gunned down, we believe, up to 28 people with 14 dead at the hour. >> and all right. tom thanks very much. watching continuing coverage on nbc news of a mass shooting in san bernardino, california. some stations return to regular programming. others nbc news continues. >> breaking news out of san bernardino, california, as you perhaps have been watching this afternoon. mass shooting inside california building left dozens hurt. now we know at least 14 are dead here. mosh people treated on the scene and local hospital as well. one or more gunman who look to be on a mission opened fire in that building. >> the building in san bernardino still has not been given the all-clear by police. we just heard a moment ago during that news conference that the bomb squad is going through

that building room by room to make sure there aren't suspicious explosive devices. this is unfolding the inland regional center, run by the state of california. mitch is following the developments. >> and a lot of news came out of the news conference. >> this all started around 11:00, sorry, 11:00 a.m. on the west coast, 22:00 p.m. eastern time. every law enforcement agency in los angeles responded entering the building, going through active shooter protocol. up to three shooters on the loose. suspects who have fled in a dark colored suv. actively trying to find them. we don't know motive, don't flow if it was terrorism or a terrorist incident. we know it is a domestic terrorist incident.

police said gun plmen were on a mission. most public buildings in san bernardino are shut down, including schools, courts and hospitals. also hearing some of the first audio as police were alerted to the situation. er. >> shots heard in the area. 13:65. >> 1365 south waterman. >> we do have victims down. fire staging, security. >> entry through the back door east side. >> back door east site. >> two down. >> several down. several down. several medical aid. >> in the last three years nbc 10 investigators, 1,029 mass shootings in the united states killing 1300 people according to the database mass shooting tracker. stay with us for the latest development in the evolving

situation. live in the digital operations center. mitch blacher. >> the worst mass shooting sense newtown, connecticut. nbc 10's george spencer. >> you spoke to a security expert about what unfolded and what's next. >> reporter: just like the rest of us about terror related as the california law enforcement said domestic terrorism q. active shooter situation changed after the columbine back in 1999. i'm told by the security experts, now ai das when law enforcement arrived at scene of an active shooter situation like what unfolded today in california, they first established a perimeter, then almost immediately head inside,

searching for shoot somewhere trying to neutralize the situation. that is in stark contrast between what used to happen before days of columbine, pre-1999 when protocol was to wait outside a situation like this. nowadays law enforcement trains unfortunately specifically for incidents like this. take a listen to what one former police officer told us. >> active shooter training, we're going to go in, not going to get there, establish the perimeter, wait on s.w.a.t. get there, establish perimeter and going and isolate the active shooter. >> reporter: isolate active shooter. as california law enforcement just mentioned in their press conference, huge issue from the perspective of security experts here is the scope and size of that government building where this occurred. it was on a campus so large it

took a significant amount of time for them to go room to room clearing and neutralizing that building. also, i'm being told, idea is that the shooter, or shooters, may have arrived at that building in full body armor, certainly indicates to experts that this was a planned attack, not something these people came up with on the spur of the moment. something people are watching closely here in philadelphia, with the west coast. george spencer, nbc 10 news. >> thanks for that update. as many as 500 people work in the building in san bernardino. 200, 250 people may have been in the area of a community type event going on there. official with that facility said, if there was a community event going on, doors would be opened as we begin to ask questions about what kind of security was there at that facility. and as we know right now, as you see at bottom of the screen from

knbc, police are looking for up to three suspects who police say appeared to come prepared on a mission. >> on a mission with purpose, and dress to indicate they were prepared for something like this today. >> we will continue to watch developments as they unfold from san bernardino, california. count on us to bring you updates throughout the next hour and ten minutes or so. turn to other news of importance here in our area. friends and family devastated after bodies of a mother and baby found. >> ex-boyfriend killed the woman and her 3-month-old daughter. the mother and daughter last season friday. empty car found several miles north on route 55 the next day. police announced their bodies had been discovered in a wooded area in fair field township. >> reporters learning more about the victims as well as suspect.

we begin with cydney long. >> reporter: they have a 5-year-old son together, we found out this mother and the baby were actually killed inside her own apartment here in vineland some time friday and then her podbody dumped 20 mile away. >> she was in town friday. >> reporter: the 34-year-old and her infant daughter, according to police, spent their last hours alive inside this super laundry. police confirmed they will work with owners to get surveillance video. but the 34-year-old, detectives say, came clean to police tuesday which led them to a wooded area in fair field township, accessible by dirt roads to recover bodies. >> co-parents and it appears there was some dispute going on.

>> reporter: criminal complaint and source confirmed santiago, the father of the 5-year-old son killed ramirez and her new baby girl inside her own apartment later using her suvs to dump the bodies. >> just confusion. a lot of worry. a lot of questions. >> reporter: worry turned to heartbreak for ramirez's loved ones, saying, quote, they are devastated after gathering in prayer for a different outcome last night. friend and neighbor's son went to school with the surviving 5-year-old. >> broke me down in tears. broke down my son in tears. that was my friend, he doesn't have a mommy. that hurt me most. >> reporter: two of the uncles told me immediate family is busy making funeral arrangements and signing paperwork to prevent

suspect's family from being in touch with the 5-year-old boy there is couple had in common. cydney long, nbc 10. >> the suspect is being held on $1 million bail. police say he has confessed to the crime. nbc 10 deanna durante continues coverage. >> reporter: ricardo santiago arrested back in february for terrorist threats. police are not commenting publicly about the case where or it stands now. he was book in county jail on a charge of terrorist threats. this is the home where ricardo was living. some residents corn firm they saw him coming and going from time to time. not listed as the owner here. residents refused to talk on camera. one person telling us, when this picture appeared on the news, they knew it was their neighbor who lived not far. no one answered the door where

multiple cars were parked. this police blotter, showing santiago with the same address and aerrest in february for terrorist threats. held on $2500 bail. we obtained the criminal complaint. it tells little about the murders. police are accusing him of killing the woman and her daughter during a physical altercation inside the apartment of the victim friday. santiago being held on $1 million bail and expected to appear in court tomorrow afternoon. deanna durante, nbc 10 news. >> she has since -- >> pack to breaking news out of san bernardino, california. live shot here from one of the reporters from knbc television. scene of mass shooting left has many as 14 dead, more than a dozen wounded and three gunmen believed to be on the loose.

continue to gather the latest developmentes from out west. count on us for updates onair and online. we'll be right back.

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we continue to follow breaking news out of san bernardino, california. here are some images from the scene of police helping wounded, other people being treated. here's what eknow. at least one to three shooters, up to three people involved. at least 14 dead. 14 injured, if not more. police tell us, there is no mote everybody at this point in time. san bernardino police have not engage the in gunfire with anyone. at this point, working under the

theory the suspects may have thread in a dark suv before authorities arrived. we'll continue to monitor the scene in california and keep you posted throughout the hour. now, first alert weather. >> good evening. we have been seeing rain all day today. kind of off and on. areas north and west of philadelphia have the longest period of rainfall. seeing a break in the rain again like we did last flight. here's a live look at center city, top of the buildings you can't see, we have area of low clouds again. but for the evening commute, it is looking much better, drier conditions with that rain coming to an end. so across most of the area we have the cloudy skies. rain up near the pocono. light rain around cape may county. that's about it. right now. as we take a look at big picture, clouds are locked in. we have rain off to our south. but that batch of rain that we saw earlier today, that's the last big area of rain we're going to see before we see more

clearing later on tonight. in the meantime, dealing with low clouds and fog across the area. pottstown, visibility less than two miles. lancaster almost a plil. coatesville, an area zero mile visibility. millville, three mile visibility. dealing with limited visibility but see improving conditions overnight tonight. a look at future weather. temperatures mainly staying in the low 50s even as we get closer to 10:00 tonight. there you see rain already moving out by 10:00 p.m. taking a lot of the cloud cover with it, too. tomorrow, you will note this more sunshine but also gusty winds. coming up, a look at tomorrow's forecast going into the weekend and how windy it will be for thursday straight ahead. >> sl liomething like that. >> coverage from knbc in san bernardino, california. let's listen. >> the conference was downstairs.

she says she was shooting downstairs. >> in the area. >> your wife saw the shooting. >> yes. >> she called you or text you? >> she barricaded herself and co-workers inside, put the desk on the door and that's when she called me before 11:00. >> did she get out okay? >> yes. she's still in front of the parking lot of the center. now they're being questioned by police. >> did she barricade herself in a room or did she just put desks around did. >> individual cubicals inside and they started throwing desks. she's a coordinator. >> did she know -- did she see the gunmen, description. >> saw him from outside, heavier-set guy, big gun. he had a mask on like with a bunch of things on his chest. assuming bulletproof vest. >> alone. >> one guy. >> was she able to give you an idea how long the shooting went

on for. >> i didn't ask. she didn't tell me. >> how long did she talk on the phone before she had to hang up. >> did you lose her. >> she -- i hanged up i was -- there was chaos. i don't know how long i talked to her. >> you came here. >> i started driving here, with my dad. >> have you been able to get information from authorities. >> no, no one's saying anything. >> no, she's in the parking lot, there's a grass area, she's there. they separated both of them in two different groups. >> how long has she worked there there year and a half. >> expressed concern of the safety of the office. >> never. she loves the office. i asked her, she says there is security guards downstairs and patrol the area, haven't heard anything as far as like any cars being stolen or anything. >> a coordinator, like a social worker? what are you going to do when

you see your wife. >> i'm just going to hug her. >> thanks for talking to us. >> all right. >> god bless you. >> your name. >> luis gutierrez. >> your wife's. >> jeanette gutierrez. >> thank you. >> there you have it, this, from a man who says his wife actually saw one of the individuals, suspects, that he had a mask on, that he had what appeared to be a flak jacket or some kind of armament based on what his wife told him that there was weapons, she was on the third floor, looked down, saw the man dressed in black. again, with a mask. didn't see any others. at that point that there was pan did moani pandemonium. according to this man, his wife,

her cubical, they started barricading doors, wherever he went they had some ability to keep him from entering their floor. she is on a second or third floor looking down. the gunman on the outside of the building apparently making his way in. once again, worked there over a year. she's never expressed any concern over her safety, this is the first time we've heard they had security guards at the building. not sure what exactly happened to them or if they're among injured. this is a witness who says as soon as shooting started he got a phone call or on his phone with his wife around the time it started. he found out that she's okay. going to be reunited. but this is a chilling, chilling depiction of what just happened through the eyes and ears of a husband who heard it through the telephone in a conversation with

his wife who he says loved her job and loves this establishment and loved where she worked. now very much changed as they try to collect themselves from what just happened and his wife ends up being debriefed by police. >> we heard confirmation there was a holiday celebration going on. everything was very festive when the three shooters walked in and opened fire there. >> right. also a question as to how there might be more individuals at the establishment, at the center, on a day like today than normally. again, we have no motive obviously. so even authorities aren't sure if this was circumstance that there was -- what role the center played in all of this. as you point out, it's noteworthy that this time of season not to mention today and

tomorrow, there's some events taking place that are used to help bolster those clients that they have in this establishment. we can only guess there were more than usual at the center today. whether that plays a role, whether that was part of a plan, no idea. but it's worthy to note that. >> her description matches what the police chief was telling us he was hearing. he has said men dressed in black carrying long guns, possible tactical gear which clearly sounds like what luis gutierrez's wife saw and mentioned a man wearing a mask. >> first time we heard he may have been wearing or they may have been wearing masks here. as we are talking to you, looking at video that was shot immediately after what happened. i've got to ask you, we saw several people appear to be wounded coming out of a truck -- >> listening in to knbc's live

coverage and reporting in san bernardino of this breaking news situati situation, the first time we're hearing a description of one gunmen involved wearing dark clothing, a mask, witness they -- the undhusband of a wits said the wife told him the gunman may have been wearing a bulletproof vest and had a big gun. 6:00 we should get an update, they will update us every hour on the hour, whether they have flu information on or not. >> now sound from the president. he's briefed about the mass shooting in san bernardino. the president offering his condolences to victims and families. once again, talking about the need for tougher gun control laws. let's listen in. >> our hearts go out to victims and families. but one thing we do know is that we have a pattern now of mass

shootings in the country that has no parallel anywhere else in the world. there's some steps we can take, not to eliminate every one of the mass shootings but to improve ideas that they don't happen as frequently. >> the president speaking during an interview at under way at the time the shooting under way. >> lawmakers weigh in on this. we expect to hear that discussion and debate continue in coming days, weeks and months. getting new information by the minute on this breaking story. >> 14 dead in california this afternoon, 14 injured. as many as three gunmen on the loose. we'll be right back.

we follow breaking news out of san bernardino, california, where there's a mass shooting this afternoon, as many as three

gunmen on the loose. our coverage from our sister station knbc on the air. let's listen in again. >> we can tell you, of the 14 injured taken to several hospitals there, loma linda, we heard from patrick heelly. they were expecting three more. arrowhead regional has people as well. as we heard the police chief say, they are not connecting this at this point with terrorism. i believe his reference was meant to be overseas terrorism. but any way you look at it, this is domestic terrorism. >> tony shin with the mayor of san bernardino. as soon as we're able to get him in place, we'll bring you that interview. diane feinstein -- >> here he comes now. >> tony? >> reporter: we just grabbed san bernardino mayor kerry davis, he

just got to the scene. let me ask you, sir, when you found out what was happening this morning, what was your reaction? >> well, i was at a meeting, a sandbag meeting, as soon as i received that information i left that and went over to city hall to start contact. >> reporter: i know you've been getting updates from the chief. can you take us through moments getting new updates, the emotions and frustration that these shooters, shooter, still out there? what was that like from that moment until now? >> i have great confidence in our pd as well as sheriff's department. they've done a great job of harnessing all of the resources they can. we have other agencies they're assisting in aiding in this. appreciate invitations and offers from the state and local and county level that have been here on scene to make sure the area's secure, we have been contact with other major

facilities in the community, make sure they're staying on top and keeping their responsible facility safe and secure. they have done that. in touch with superintendent of schools, cal state president, as well as community college. they are all monitoring the situation, making sure they take whatever protocols necessary to make sure their facilities are maintained and kept safe. >> what do you want your constituents to know about what's happening with the response in finding these people? >> i can say too much more. you know information needs to stay secure, as long as it's an open investigation. we have to rely upon pd and sheriffs and fbi here to provide, give us their support. our community comes to egg at these times, they have in the past. i'm grateful and expect they will do the same thing. we want them to stay away from the area. we want them to be cautious and look out for any suspicious

activity and report that as indicated earlier to the tip lines so we'll have all of the information that will help them move as quickly as possible and apprehend in the suspect. >> reporter: i know it's been hard on you, trying to resurrect a city that has so much other violence and firefighter and police officers asking for help because of the economy. how is it, in your eyes, now that you're going to have to deal with this huge tragedy, human tragedy up on that. so much is on your shoulders. >> i believe our council with the staff will come together. we will make necessary changes to be sure that the community continues on that rise that we have been on, the bankruptcy certainly is one of the things that keeps us in the press. we are making progress. i think that will help to bring the city back into more economic and viable community.

certainly this adds a dimension of something that we're going to have to deal with. san bernardino's very resilient. we will recover from and do the best that we can to make sure our community will stay safe. >> reporter: you probably have it leave the scene and face a difficult scene. i'm sure you're visiting victims' family members. how are you preparing for that? >> as any tragedy like this, we rely upon that higher source that gives us that comfort. i would just encourage those who are going through this to draw upon that faith that they have that will be able to comfort them during this tragic time, families are going to be impacted, it's something they'll be dealing with for the rest of their lives. thoughts and prayers go out to them we are mourning with them at this time. >> reporter: mayor, thank you so much. the city is going to struggle

even more but there are good people here and they will come together, just like the mayor said. back to you. >> right about that. a town of 215,000 people. we're getting more information. we understand the attack took place in a conference area where the san bernardino county department of public health was holding a banquet. that's the information we're getting from the scene. conan is standing by, he's got someone else who may have witnessed this. >> reporter: yeah. live on channel 4. you used to work at this facility. >> correct. >> reporter: and you heard at your new line of employment on the dispatch that there's a shooting. you went directly there. >> directly here. i got here 30, 45 minutes after. when i got here, cars driving franntically frantically, people running all over the place, trampling all over each other. i had to get out and direct

traffic from there. try to get everybody out here safe and sound. just trying to help out law enforcement. >> reporter: did you hear any weapons fire? there did not hear weapons fire. just like i said -- >> reporter: you didn't see any of the suspects, suspect they're looking for. >> no, not at the time. like i said, when i got here, everybody was being escorted out of the building but a lot of people, they weren't -- they weren't -- they weren't able to walk out of the building. they were running frantically. >> reporter: you used to provide security. >> correct. >> reporter: how long ago. >> two years ago. >> tell us about how much %uááñ have. >> they normally have on a day to day basis i would say eight to ten guards there. >> reporter: unarmed. >> unarmed, yes. the number of guards were high for a building like that. normally they have about two or

three to a building like that. >> reporter: you were there. had there been any incidents where people had arrived with weapons or there's any kind of exchanges that border on violence? >> no. not since i've been working there. it's pretty much a calm area. >> reporter: have you heard about any former colleagues, their situation, who may have been working? >> no, no. no. like i said, it's pretty much a cool area to be in. >> reporter: i mean, they're okay? >> yes, they're definitely fine that i know of, yes. >> reporter: when you got there, you didn't see weapons fire, the suspects, 30, 40 minutes afterwards. s.w.a.t. arrived? san bernardino city and county sheriffs arrived. >> i was there before the s.w.a.t. arrived. when i got there, it was about 20, 0 squad cars there arrived.

yeah. >> yeah. what did they tell you? did you seek information from them or did they tell you to take cover? >> at the time they couldn't give me information. i tried to speak with other employees from the build ilerring. they were being interviewed. me weren't allowed to give any information at the time. >> reporter: year here, based on what you've seen thus far, let me ask, you worked at that building for quite some time. what's your reaction to seeing this? >> i definitely -- with all of the stuff going on, definitely think it had to be a part of a terrorist attack. >> reporter: they don't know that for a fact but that's in your gut feeling. >> that's my gut feeting. >> reporter: private security guard, used to work at center where this took place. on the scene shortly afterwards. once again, this at intersection of waterman is where media mass

converged hearing some stories from individual whose have not only were there shortly after the weapons fire started but also individual whose had conversations with loved ones. still trying to reunite. that is taking place. interviews are also taking place as police try to figure out who's responsible for what happened and how can they find them. >> you know, you mentioned, conan, too early to call this act of terrorism. not an act of overseas terror ep but this is an act of domestic terrorism. when you have this assault on people, 14 dead, 14 injured. >> those numbers are preliminary. i want to make a clarification, too. within an hour and a half after what happened in san bernardino, there were reports that there was some sort of s.w.a.t. altercation or barricade situation going on in pasadena.

my phone is lighting up here. people in the san gabriel valley wanting to know what's going on, is it connected. the answer is, no, absolutely not. what happened in pasadena was related to a whole other incident. not related to the manhunt for the three shooters who walked into the inland regional center and open fire. >> looking at images after this unfolded. >> again, watching live coverage from knbc covering this mass shooting in san bernardino, california, where 14 are dead this evening. 14 others are wounded. we'll be right back.

we've been staying with knbc and live coverage of the situation unfolding in san bernardino, mass shooting. let's listen in. >> saw anything within the confines of this area this morning? the description we do have, we heard from one of the husbands of someone inside with conan. big guy, in all black, wearing amask. things 0 his chest, presumably

like a kevlar vest, carrying a large gun. she might have been on the second or third floor on the balcony when heard something, went to look outside and saw this happening on the first floor. the group she was with managed to put desks together to block the door. she was still on scene trying to locate friends. expected to be talking to police department or someone in charge shortly. >> bear with us to viewers. swapping in anchors a number of hours, four hours into what's going on. talking about what one witness was saying and that conversation with his wife inside. one thing that struck me, he said, as people who survived in the building, as they were let out by law enforcement officers, they were being interviewed and separated into ditch groups, people who saw the shooter or shooters and people who did not. the thing that, as i've been

monitoring social media, a lot of people struck by is the fact that these suspects were gone. they don't know where they are. they don't flow who they are. they don't know what their motivation was. still a very active situation. it may be secure there at the regional facility we don't know where the shooters are, and police are still looking. >> they have an increased police presence at so many locations around san bernardino. we heard from patrick -- >> listening to nbc colleagues at knbc as they are covering this situation unfolding for four hours now. more from san bernardino. the concern is that as many as three gunmen fled from the scene. no known threats but everyone on heightened alert. >> coming up, coverage of this breaking news out of southern california. mass shooting at social services building that leaves as many as

14 dead. the search for the suspects and first police radio calls, next. glenn? >> tracking the rain. how long we'll stay dry when the wet stuff does move out. rescue revealed. footage that shows dramatic move that put a hostage stand-off to an end.

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nbc 10 breaking news. >> we do not know if we still have an active shooter. we have two down inside. making entry. >> "nbc 10 news at 6:00" begins and with more on breaking news out of california. emergency calls coming in during a mass shooting at a social services crepe ter in southern california. from the air, you can see the police presence coming up in video we'll show you. on the ground a look at victims treated, ambulances on the scene, and many of them. we know up to 14 people are dead. more than a dozen others wounded. and there are as many as three shooters on the loose at this hour. this began to unfold four hours ago now. it's about 60 miles east of los angeles. shooting happened at the inland regional center, a place that helps people with developmental disabilities. president obama has been briefed on the violence. here's what he had to say. >> we should never think that this is something that just happens in the ordinary course

of events because it doesn't happen with the same frequency in other countries. >> mitch blacher has been following the story since it broke. >> in just the last hour, police confirmed that those suspects, they are still on the loose. here's what else we know. within moments of this shooting, virtually every type of law enforcement in the los angeles area responded to the scene. followed active shooter protocol as they entered the building. they say at least 14 are dead, 14 injured. and the suspects fled in a dark colored suv and actively looking for them right now. police also say they do not have a motive and do not know whether or not this was a terrorist incident. nbc news did talk to a man whose daughter was inside the building during the shooting. >> my daughter's out of the building and safe. >> you just got the call? >> yeah. >> how are you feeling now? >> relieved. but sad f