taken control of the republican party. it's nominee, donald trump. i traveled to trump national golf club in new jersey, sort of his weekend get away last night for a face-to-face interview since dropping nominee. trump's tax returns, proposed restrictions on muslim immigration and why he says he alone can fix the country's problems, but i began asking him how it feels to be the republican nominee for president of the united states. >> well, it really feels great and we really have a very unified party other than a very small group of people that frankly lost and we have a very unified party. you saw that the other night with the love in the room and the enthusiasm in the room. the enthusiasm. there are people that say they never seen anything like that was going on, especially thursday night. >> i got to ask you about your entrance before we get serious. that monday night entrance was something else.

i know you got a lot of feedback. >> i got lucky and a couple peopled a that idea and i went along with the idea and everything just worked right and it was so good that they wanted to do it on thursday night. i said never in a million years because you'll never get it that way again. >> i don't think i've seen that even on wwe. >> i know. vince is a good friend of mine and called me and said that was a very, very good entrance. i didn't want to do it a second time, never works out the second time. >> let's go into the speech. i want to put meat on the bones. let's talk about you've seen some of the positive reviews, some of the negative reviews. some of the negative is it was a little dark. >> that's the only thing they said. >> what would you say? not morning in america. what would you say to that? >> the only negativity and i call them the haters and that's fine, but the only negative reviews were a little dark, and the following day they had another attack and then today you see what happened in afghanistan with many, many people killed. they have no idea how many. so many killed. yesterday was munich, and, you

know, i know they are saying maybe it wasn't terrorism. maybe it was just a crazy guy but in the meantime he's screaming allahu akbar as he's shooting people and people say maybe it wasn't dark at all. only, the only thing that some people said, it was a little dark and tough. >> did you think it was a little dark? >> no, to me it was an optimistic speech. >> what makes it optimistic? >> because we're going to solve the problems. sure, i talk about the problems but we're going to solve the problems. >> one of the phrases, i alone can fix it. and some people that sounded almost too strong mannish for them. do you understand that criticism? and what do you make of it? >> part of it was i'm comparing myself to hillary and we know hillary and we look at her record. her record has been a disaster. and i am running against hillary. not like i'm running against the rest of the world. i know people very, very capable

that could do a good job but never get elected. i can give you ten names of people that would do an extraordinary job but could never get elected. they wouldn't know where to begin but for governing, they would be good. i'm running against one person. >> you said there would be consequences for any company that tried to move a factory. >> absolutely, so simple. >> you bring up carry -- >> so simple -- >> what -- >> explain -- >> i understand that. explain the consequence. >> here is the consequence. >> what would it be? >> they come in and announce they are moving to mexico and fire people in indiana and say hi, here we are, mexico, enjoy the plant and the rest of your life and hire people from mexico. they make their product and put it into the united states where we'll have a very strong border but put it into the united states and we don't charge them tax. there will be a tax to be paid. if they are going to fire their people, move their plant to mexico, build air conditioners and think they will sell them to the united states, there will be a tax.

>> what kind of tax are you thinking? >> could be 25%, 30%, 15%. i haven't determined. it could be different for different companies. we've been working on trying to stop this government because we don't know what they are doing. not only obama. they have been trying to stop this before obama. they tried low-interest loans, zero interest -- >> some of these things won't get through the world trade organization. >> doesn't matter. we'll renegotiate or pull out. these trade deals are a disaster, chuck. world trade organization is a disaster -- >> you know the concern on some of this is it would rattle the world economy. look what brexit did? >> what did it do? the stock market is higher now than when it happened. i'm the only one of all these people at the higher level of the wonderful world of politics, i'm the only one that said brexit is going to happen. i said i think they will improve it.

they want independence and not people pouring into their country. >> you think a fractured europe is good for america? >> no, no, but we're spending a lot of money in europe. don't forget, europe got together, why primarily did they get together? to beat the united states when it comes to making money. in other words, on trade. >> economic -- >> okay. now we talk about europe like they are wonderful. i love europe. i have property in europe. i'm just saying the reason that it got together was like a consortium so it could compete with the united states -- >> you're saying this stuff is good for america if it's not good for europe. >> look at airbus. they got together, all of these countries got together so they could beat the united states. okay? so we're in competition. so you know, we're in competition in one way and helping them in one way. it's so messed up. >> the muslim ban. i think you pulled back but you tell me. >> we must immediately suspend immigration from any nation that has been compromised by

terrorism until such time as proven vetting mechanisms have been put in place. >> this feels like a slight rollback. >> i don't think -- >> should we interpret it as that? >> i don't think so. in fact, you could say it's an expansion. i'm looking at terrorists. people were so upset when i used the word muslim. oh, you can't use the word muslim. remember this. i'm okay with that because i'm talking territory instead of muslim. but just remember this, our constitution is great. but it doesn't necessarily give us the right to commit suicide, okay? we have a religious, everybody wants to be protected and that's great and that's a wonderful part of our constitution. i view it differently. why are we committing suicide? why are we doing that? i love with our constitution. i love our constitution. i cherish our constitution. we're making it territorial. we have nations and will come out with a number of the places and it's very complex. >> i was going to say --

>> we have problems in germany and france. >> i was going to ask that. would this limit immigration from france? >> what we're going to have -- >> they have been compromised by terrorism. >> it's their fault because they allowed people -- >> so you would toughen up. you're basically saying hey, french want to come over here, you have to go through an extra check? >> it's their fault because they allowed people over years to come into their territory and that's why brexit happened. the uk said we're tired of this stuff. listen to this. >> you can get to the point where you're not allowing a lot of people to come into this country. >> maybe we get to that point. look what is happening. look what took place in afghanistan where they blow up a whole shopping center. they have no idea how many people were even killed. happened today. so we have to be smart and we have to be vigilant and be strong. we can't be the stupid people. >> france, germany, spain, places that have been compromised. >> here is what i want. >> all right.

>> extreme vetting. tough word. extreme vetting. >> what does that look like? >> tough. we're going to have tough standards. >> give me one. >> if a person can't prove they are from an area and if a person can't prove what they have to be able to prove, they are not coming into this country and i would stop the syrian migration and the syrian from coming into this country in two seconds. hillary clinton wants to take 550% more people coming in from that area than barack obama. i think she's crazy. i think she's crazy. we have no idea who these people are for the most part and you know -- >> you don't -- >> i seen them on different shows but more importantly, i read about it and studied it. there is no way you can vet some of these people. there is no way. law enforcement officials, i've had them in my office and talked to them. >> you realize some of these folks have nowhere to go. they are truly victims of the civil war. what do you do with them? >> we will help them and we will

build safe havens over in syria. >> we in the united states are going to build these -- >> we will get gulf states to pay for it because we're going to have $21 trillion very soon. trillion. in debt. we will do safe havens and safe zones in syria and we will get nations that are so wealthy that are not doing anything, they are not doing much, they have nothing but money, and you know who i'm talking about, the gulf states and get them to pay for it. we would lead it but i don't want to pay because our country is going down the tubes. we owe too much money. >> let me move to something with nato. mitch mcconnell said this about your remarks "the new york times." he said it was a rookie mistake and once you -- let me finish the comment here. it's a rookie mistake and proves that trump needs people like us around to help steer him in the right direction on some basic things. >> he's 100% wrong. okay? he's 100% wrong if he said that. i didn't hear him say -- >> he did say that. >> fine.

if he said that, he's 100% wrong and frankly, it's sad. we have nato and we have many countries that aren't paying for what they are supposed to be paying, which is already too little but not paying anyway and we're giving them a free ride or a ride where they owe us tremendous amounts of money and have the money but they are not paying it. you know why? >> so is there -- estonia is paying. if they get invaded by russia, you're there? >> i feel differently. >> hasn't done the 2%. >> we have countries that aren't paying and this goes beyond nato because we take care of japan. we take care of germany and south korea and saudi arabia and we lose on everything. we lose on everything. if mitch mcconnell says that, he's wrong. all i'm saying is they have to pay. now, a country gets invaded. they haven't paid. everyone said oh, but we have a treaty. they have a treaty, too. they are supposed to be paying. we have countries within nato taking advantage of us.

with me, i believe they are going to pay and when they pay, i'm a big believer in nato. if they don't pay -- chuck, this isn't 40 years ago. this isn't 50 years ago. it's not 30 years ago. we're a different country today. we're much weaker. our military is depleted. we owe tremendous amounts of money. we have to be reimbursed. we can no longer be the stupid country. when we come back, what donald trump says about david duke, bernie sanders and whether he really plans to spend millions for the sole purpose of defeating ted cruz and john kasich. and later i talk to bernie sanders about trump and his reaction to tim kaine becoming hillary clinton's running mate. we're in philadelphia, site of the democratic national convention. stay with us.

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in the news. i'm going to literally throw out a name and you'll know the question i'm asking. bernie sanders. >> great respect for what he's done. he has been taken advantage of and frankly, the system was rigged and i'm the first one to say it, was rigged against him. >> you took after him. you took after him for supporting hillary clinton. >> i'm not a fan of bernie sanders but i am a fan of one thing he talks about, trade. he's the on one on that side that understands trade. he can't do anything about it because that's not his thing. but he has been gamed. he has been -- it's a rigged system against him, and what happened with the joys of tim kaine was a slp in the face to bernie sanders and everybody. i was shocked. i love it from my standpoint. >> why do you love the kaine pick? >> he took over $160,000 in gifts and they weren't gifts, suits and trips and lots of different things.

legal. >> legal in the state of virginia. >> mcdonald had to go to the united states supreme court -- >> they proved kid proquo. >> excuse me, bob mcdonnell took a fraction of what kaine took and i think to me it's a big problem. now how do you take all these gifts? hundreds of thousands of dollars. the other thing about him. he's bought and owned by the banks. and the third thing, he's in favor of tpp and every other trade deal he's looked at and that means he wants people not to work. now, he is going to change his tune, and i understand he's now going to say i'm against tpp. hillary clinton was totally in favor of tpp, which is a job killer, right? so is he. when she watched me on your show and other shows, all of a sudden she changed because she knows she can't win that in a debate. >> all right. ted cruz amended, are you really going to fund a super pack to help defeat hillary in 2018.

>> not the number one thing on my mind. what's on my mind is beating hillary clinton. what's on my mind is winning for the republican party. with that being said, yeah, i'll probably do a super pac, you know, when they run against kasich. >> okay. >> for 10 to $20 million against ted cruz. >> all right. >> and maybe one other person that i'm thinking about. >> who is that one other person. >> he's actually such a small person i hate to give him the publicity. yes, i will probably do that at the appropriate time but i'm not going to do that -- >> give me the small person here. >> don't worry about it. we'll give it to you another time. >> let me ask you about this one. david duke announced his senate candidacy claiming your agenda for his own, essentially saying glad that you spoke out. >> are you ready before you ask the question? >> newt gingrich said every republican should repudiate. >> i did and i do.

>> would you support a democrat over david duke. >> depending who the democrat would be but the answer is yes. as quick as you can say it -- i went to answer you -- >> totally -- >> last time with another person in your position, i did it very quickly and they said he didn't do it fast enough. rebuked. is that okay? >> done. >> okay. >> tax returns, a lot of conspiracy theories are being out there about why you -- what's in your tax return? you would get rid of the conspiracy theories tomorrow, probably make people -- >> let me give you a little lesson. first of all, you don't learn very much from a tax return. i put into the federal elections grown up 100 and some odd pages of my financials that showed i'm much wealthier than anybody understood. tremendous cash, tremendous assets, all that stuff. that's it. i'm going through a routine order. just a routine order and had it for i think 13 years, 14 years. every year they audit me.

routine. i would never give my tax returns until the audit is finished but remember this, mitt romney four years ago was under tremendous pressure to give his tax return and held it and held it and held it and fought it and he didn't do too well, okay? he didn't do anything wrong on his taxes. when he gave his tax returns, people forget, not now, he gave them in september before the election. >> so you might release them -- >> wait a minute. wait a minute. when he did and his tax returns are a tiny peanut they went through his tax returns, there was nothing wrong and made him look bad. in fact, i think he lost his election because of that. >> because of tax returns. >> i'll tell you why. he did nothing wrong. mitt romney did nothing wrong but they would take -- they weren't too big. did you see mine this high? >> i seen that. >> they took his tax return, nothing wrong, just standard and made him look bad. very unfair. with all said, i would love to

give them but i'm under audit, when i'm done, i will give them. >> roger ailes? >> he's been a friend of mine for a long time and i can tell you some of the women that are complaining, i know how much he's helped them and even recently and when they write books that are fairly recently released and they say wonderful things about him and now all of a sudden, they are saying horrible things about him. it's very sad because he's a very good person. i've always found him to be a very, very good person and by the way, a very, very talented person. look what he's done. i feel very badly. a lot of people i think will run my campaign. my c