and i approve this message because it's your turn to get ahead. >> announcer: from nbc news, this is "today" with kathie lee gifford and hoda kotb. live from studio 1a in rockefeller plaza. ♪ >> hey, everybody. you made it. happy wednesday. winesday wednesday. hoda calls it hump day. september 28. that's act like you don't by brook eden. >> i haven't heard that. i like it already. >> yeah. >> we have a great show. two lovely talented stars are here. hilary duff and debbie mazar from "younger" which we happen to have a cameo in tonight. >> that's what we hear. >> home cooking. >> yeah, baby. we're honored. >> we are.

>> then it is the best-selling novel that sold 15 million copies. now "the girl on the train," one of the most anticipated movies of the year. we'll catch up with star luke evans. >> you got to see it. >> i did. >> stop it. >> i'll tell you in a minute. what else do we have? >> il divo. they are the international singing sensation. they bring love and passion and sex appeal to our studio. >> they sing well, too. >> yeah. >> then the recovering spender lauren grutman is back to help you like she helped herself. get out of debt. she'll answer the questions you have been sending in. >> would you like words of wisdom? >> before you hear about "the girl on the train," yeah. >> may your choices reflect your hopes, not your fears. that's nelson mandela. >> excellent. >> can i give a shout out to an event i went to last night? >> yeah. >> there was a great nascar event. they help kids who are sick. it is a great thing, the first

time it's been in new york city. they were honoring mark lazarus. >> sports but now just had a big promotion. >> that's mark and his adorable wife. danica patrick was there. it was one of those really wonderful events. they honored great people of nascar. i told the crowd i'd share a picture. there they are. >> we meant to take a picture yesterday but we didn't. >> yes. >> we want to thank louis licari for taking us to lunch yesterday. in all the years we have been working together he's come to my house for dinner one night. we went to lunch yesterday, went to michael's. we had a lovely time. we love you louis. >> we do. >> shall i tell you about the movie? >> yes, please. >> cassidy is home. so i watched with her. we only had it linked. >> this is "the girl on the train." >> only could watch on her computer. for all 15 million of you that

loved the book there is the fear that the movie is not going to be as good. i liked the book. i didn't love the book, but i liked it. it kept me. >> page turner. >> but i loved the movie. the movie is incredible. and emily blunt is so good in everything. but she is spectacular -- >> what? >> -- as rachel in this. everybody is so well cast. the direction is tight and taught, gripping. when you already know the story and what's going to happen, that's saying a lot. >> you loved it more than the book? nobody ever says that! >> well, i did. i just did. not everybody will agree. >> so excited. i can't wait to see it. we'll talk about the movie later today, too. >> yeah. >> if you were tuned in to "the voice" last night -- by the way, i tivo'd "this is us" so don't tell me what happened. >> i'm dying to see it. >> often in "the voice" the

great thing about the chair turn is you see the voice and don't see the person and sometimes they don't match. >> i love that. >> last night michael sanchez shocked everybody. listen and then look at the judges' reaction. ♪ ♪ just use me ♪ use me, baby ♪ oh, use me ♪ come on and use me, yeah [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> i can't believe! >> michael, dude. >> what? >> i thought there was a very large beard waiting for me when i turned around. >> i thought it was for sure a 60-plus-year-old black man. >> in like a cowboy hat and boots. >> it's rick moranis.

>> "rick moranis". >> that was good. there was another contestant named darby walker with a really great night. blake, alicia and miley all turned for her. let's see what happened. ♪ jolene ♪ ♪ please don't take him even though you can ♪ ♪ no one ♪ no one ♪ no one ♪ can get in the way of what i feel for you ♪ >> the difference is -- this is what alicia does. she's right here in your eyes. okay. >> who'd she pick? >> they sang the duet. now we'll see who she picked. >> i would have guessed because -- >> she picked miley. >> yeah. wow. >> we don't have that. so sad. out of time.

but anyway, how authentic is it when people are told you're the best? >> it's weird when watching the show. there's no one like you. i feel -- everybody says that. >> you want to be chosen as the mentor. >> as the coach. >> imagine first you were chosen by miley, alicia, blake, whomever and another person comes up and does the same thing. we love you. we're connected like soul mates. wait, i thought i was your soulmate. >> lots of people in life you can enjoy and date, but you shouldn't marry them all. >> exactly. >> we had the kids voice a couple years ago. >> oh, god. >> it was hard to tell small children tough stuff. i remember thinking i don't want to fall in love yet because i haven't set the bar yet. i don't know -- you know? >> yeah. >> if you said you're great and somebody else comes along who's unbelievable and you have given yourself away. >> part of the reason --

>> like sex. >> what? >> sometimes that's the only way to get her attention. have you all noticed? you've been watching for nine long years now. >> can you believe -- >> sex. >> you're really funny. >> nothing makes her happier. we're going to get our windsor wish, okay? >> yeah. >> prince william and kate middleton have been photographed. doesn't canada look beautiful? it's like they're on a set. >> it does. >> they are just in beautiful canada for the royal visit. >> the daily mail wanted to take a different look at the royals. they had a body language expert look at the photos. the consensus is they are very much in love. appears to be genuine, not forced. they say this is the proof they found in photos. you will know if you and your man are sympatico like this.

kate often puts her hand on william's knee. her knees are crossed toward him. their eye contact -- oh! it's strong. they hold each other ea's gaze. >> they enjoy a moment. they stop to gaze and say, isn't this cool? >> yes, you're right. >> they are sharing the moment together. >> when they stand at public appearances she often maintains physical contact. look how her hand is in the crook of the elbow. >> yeah. >> considered a gentle and intimate pose. >> yeah. >> conversely, this is how you know if there is trouble. >> let me cross your legs toward you. >> mine are always toward you. >> mine are fatter. go ahead. >> the university of toronto studied body language and found out while standing or sitting next to each other you turn your torso away from the person. like, hi, kath. >> hey. >> you have to face each other, you use blocking. in other words, if we have to face each other --

>> yeah. >> we have stuff in front of us like this. >> okay. >> drinks, cards, things. blocks. >> okay. you not only say no but you also shake your head as if to reiterate and confirm it. >> no. >> no! >> if someone says yes but goes like this -- >> they're lying. >> and sometimes you don't realize it, are you hungry? wait. how do you do it? >> yes. no. no. forget it. >> sex. >> can we say hi to two people back there? >> sure. >> melissa and peggy are visiting. melissa is a long time viewer of nbc and peggy is with her. the dynamic duo. >> great to see you. >> can we show the baby i love you. >> we have a second. >> let's show it real quick. >> 3 month old. >> you wonder if a 3 month old can speak. take a look at this. >> i love you!

[ baby cooing ] >> i love you! oh, my god. >> it's close! >> i heard it. >> clear as day. >> that was great. great show. >> special day. you will find out why. >> "younger" star hilary duff has come to play and debbie mazar, too. >> look at the little puppy. after this.

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luke plays scott hipwell, husband of a slain woman who finds himself in another woman's tangled web of lies. take a look. >> you're tom's crazy ex. were you going to tell me that? now the detective is asking if you and i are in a relationship. you? i would never even get near someone like you. my wife is dead and you're lying to me. what's wrong with you? >> i'm scared of you. >> he's over here saying, he's not a bad guy. >> trying to defend the guy. yeah. >> welcome. >> hi. >> hey! >> congratulations on the film. i don't always agree with critics. we haven't had reviews or anything. my daughter and i were riveted to it. just riveted last night. >> i can't imagine the pressure given that the book was such a runaway success. so many people in their heads have preconceived notions of the movie. did you read it before -- >> no, i didn't.

you have to live under a rock to not be aware of the phenomenon of the book, but i read the script first and then i read the book after that. >> yeah. >> i tried to go into a book shop late at night the day it was announced and picked it up quietly. the guy passed it over and said, i'm surprised you haven't read it yet. >> how true to the book is the movie? >> i would say it's quite loyal. >> incredibly loyal. it's a really complicated story to tell. >> very. >> tate somebody? >> tate taylor directed. >> beautiful. >> have you worked with emily blunt before? >> i haven't. i love emily. she's a wonder. she's a true -- a real talent. this role is difficult to pull off. she's inebriated, hung over, not very likable throughout most of the film and she's the leading lady. >> she's a troublemaker. >> she causes problems for a lot of people including my character. >> do you know who she reminds me of? when i first saw meryl streep.

>> right. >> this face that can be completely different from the face -- it's the same face but she's -- >> totally, yes. >> she's a young meryl streep. >> she is. as versatile. >> where did you shoot this? >> we shot it in west chester, white plains. >> up the street. >> i got to live in manhattan. >> beautiful. >> fabulous. it was the end of last year into the beginning of this one. >> that's a fast turnaround. >> very fast. >> especially for a book on the bestseller list two and a quarter years ago. >> i shot "beauty & the beast" before that. it's still not out. >> you're gaston in that. >> i am. >> he's got horns and all the -- what is it? ♪ all of my decorating >> the welsh man, is there one that cannot sing? >> i can name a few. >> it's rare. >> my dad thinks he's a singer but he's not.

♪ what's new pussy cat >> we love a bit of tom. >> a bit. >> a lot of tom. >> everybody does. >> hoda you're going to go crazy for this. >> have you seen it? >> i haven't yet. you have a crazy twitter following. you tweeted i'm coming and the avalanche of people. >> the luke-ateers they call themselves. >> you have two more and you don't know sociopaths until you know us. >> i have seen you drink wine at 9:00 a.m. >> 3:00 in the morning. don't judge. >> where's mine? >> you could have asked. >> "the girl on the train" hits theaters october 7. >> it's amazing. okay. you will be feeling older when we take you back to the '70s with a game of who knew. >> first "younger" with hilary duff and debi mazar after this. slept...

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appeared in over 150 tv shows and films. >> currently the two talented actresses star alongside each other in the tv land series we love "younger." >> the show follows sutton foster's character liza, a 40-year-old divorced mom leading a double life as a 26-year-old book publisher in new york. >> debi plays maggie who knows the secret and her true age. >> hillary plays liza's millennial co-worker who thinks she's in her 20s. >> expect twists and turns. hey, ladies. >> hey. >> it is a special day because it is hilary duff's birthday and debi wore lots of cleavage in her honor. >> serving it to me this morning. >> we were talking about this with sutton. this show started off as a little -- >> a sleeper. >> all of the sudden it picked up steam and turned into a tvland hit. >> i know. i think we're lucky. the first season, did anybody

see the show? are you going to make it. >> you're working so hard. >> i used to do a lot of reruns but they have so much faith in the show. they really let it grow and develop. everybody's got great stuff going on this season. >> same thing happened with "hot in cleveland." everybody said, a scripted series? good for them. >> and "seinfeld" started slow and picked up steam. right? >> they're not old enough -- >> they don't care. >> i love seinfeld. >> what can we expect this season? liza will get in more trouble. she has a hot trio thing, two men. >> she's a shut right now. >> she's lucky. >> she's not married. >> liza is having everything offered to her now. she said yes, yes, yes. she's doing what everybody wants to do and can't. >> for somebody divorced who is getting up to a certain age to have the chance of course you will feel like you're going to grab it.

>> it is a domino effect. she's lying about her age, wants to be honest, her friendships are at risk. it is interesting. she comes home and unloads stuff on me. i have to deal with the balance. you know, she has amazing stuff this season. her character grows. last season ended with her fiance getting killed by a crane. >> we had to get rid of him somehow. >> cranes happen. >> it does. >> were you friends before the show? you seem to have a real friendship. >> we never met. >> and i'm obsessed with her now. >> like me and you. we want to play a game. >> okay. >> this is famous friends. we want to show you famous friends and see if you can guess. we don't even know. >> we're ready. >> we love a game. >> here it is. >> that's -- >> oh! >> i have no idea. >> will and grace? >> jason siegel? >> oh, seinfeld!

>> they all looked like guys. >> friends. >> no, it's not. >> "sex and the city"! >> oh, my gosh. terrible. >> i'm bad at this. >> bert and ernie. >> i love them. >> lucy and ethel! >> oh, matt damon and ben affleck? >> you got it! >> we want to wish you a happy birthday. >> here we go. brought it for you. >> share with everybody. happy birthday. >> thank you! >> "younger" has been picked up already for the fourth season. season 3 premieres tonight. hoda and i are on. you might want to watch. >> get ready for a fabulous foursome known as il divo. we'll party like it's 1976 when we head across the street to play "who knew" after your local news fluchl well? i love it.

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it's winesday wednesday and that's play that funky music. i can't hear it but i will trust, by "wild cherry" the number one song today in 1976. today's who knew takes you back 40 years, an exciting time in tv and film. we saw charlie's angels, the muppet show and rocky along with other classics. we are about to put you to the test. hoda is across the street at the shop at nbc studios and 30 rock ready to hand out $100 to anybody who gets questions right. those who don't, get one of her wonderful signed books. here with me is kate coin, executive editor of "people magazine" which released the special edition 1976.

>> great to see you again. >> it was a great era. >> it was. it sure was. i think great in a way that a lot of people -- you say '70s, disco, shag carpet, but so many great pop culture moments. >> hoda? >> guess who's here, our fan of the week. >> lynette. >> where are you from? >> raleigh, north carolina. >> of course. 1976 "rocky" made writer and star sylvester stallone famous but the studio initially didn't want him on the film. who else was considered? burt reynolds, robert de niro, or harrison ford? >> harrison ford? >> is she write? >> no. >> so sad. >> wait, no. >> yep. burt reynolds. >> yeah. even though stallone had written the film he was a total unknown. nobody wanted to buy it if he

was going to star. fascinatingly sly said then i'm not selling it. finally two producers said, all right, we'll do it with you, kid. pretty great choice. >> yes. won the academy award for best picture. >> it did. >> unbelievable. hoda? >> what's your name? >> tina. >> from? >> texas. >> come on, tina from texas, let's play. what were the main characters names on the first season of "charlie's angels"? sabrina, jill & kelly, is a than that julie and kris. >> a? >> boom! a! [ cheers and applause ] >> $100. >> america just held its breath when those women came in with the guns. >> they did. the network executives wound upholding their breath when farrah faucet who played jill after a season said i want a lot more money. when she didn't get it she walked. they rewrote the character. so jill was a one-season wonder

for the show. >> cheryl lad came in. >> cheryl stepped in to play jill's sister kris after that. >> fascinating. >> what's your name? >> lynn. >> from? >> arkansas! >> i love arkansas. >> all right, lynn. i think we'll be good at this. in may of 1976 which singer set a new record for the most number one hits by a female vocalist? was it steve nicks, diana ross or barbra streisand. >> a. >> oh, good news. >> it is actually diana ross. >> the supremes were huge. >> and as a solo artist diana ross was queen of the '70s. everything from "touch me in the morning" to "love hangover" to "reach out and touch somebody's hand," the theme from "mahogany" she had an unbelievable decade. >> one more. >> dana. >> dana is here from --

>> texas. austin, texas. >> come on, dana. let's play. >> all right. >> what variety show star had the best-selling doll of 1976. cher, marie osmond or carol burne burnett? >> marie osmond. >> oh, so -- i mean, yay! >> was that donny and marie's decade? >> it was a good decade for them but not as good as it was for cher. the answer is cher. the cher doll was a bestseller. i had one. in the hot pink halter pantsuit. amazing. >> how fun was she to look at. >> incredible. >> she still is. >> she was a real life barbie doll with the long hair, long legs. >> such an original. not that we don't love marie. and our barbra. thank you. all the best with the baby. >> great to be here. >> a special collectors edition of "people" on news stands now.

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difference of opinion sometimes when it comes to paying off credit card debt. some people say start with the highest balance first. >> yeah. >> some people -- the highest interest rate. some say start with the lowest balance. i show a graph. you can see there is really only a one-month difference depending which one. but the psychological benefit of paying off the lowest balance first and getting rid of the little credit cards far outweighs -- >> you can chip away at the big one. >> too many cards. >> exactly. it's overwhelming. >> how many? >> i think zero. if you do have a credit card, i would say stick with one. >> it's hard to go to the store and they say, do you want to get one for 20% off? >> i hate it when they don't take the one you've got. >> that's true. >> janet from new york. >> i have $10,000 in credit card debt, $58,000 in home equity loan.

i am so lost and scared. i will not share with my family. my husband is not even aware. oh, my. i cannot share this with anyone. there is shame involved. >> there is a lot of shame. the question was near and dear to my heart. that was me nine years ago. the bigger question is why are you spending so much money. >> of course. >> in my book i talked about the psychological things that happen when you're spending money. there is a place in your brain that doesn't ignite. it is responsible for telling your brain danger, danger, don't do that. they found in people that don't overspend it's not telling your body no. >> it's a brain thing. >> with her you have to get real with why you are spending money. is it an addiction? it can be like a drug addiction or alcohol. to really address that issue. >> the high from the purchase. >> right. >> physically though right now if she feels buried, what's the first thing? >> she needs to come clean to

somebody. if she sees a financial counselor, a regular counselor, get it out of your body. >> a friend. >> anybody. >> then you can start working with, okay, the next step is to talk to my husband, get real with this as a family. >> sounds like she does the finances for the family. >> yeah. >> he's not aware. >> exactly. it is important she talks to somebody. >> what about having a family meeting once a month to go over finances. >> we call it budget night. we talk about the budget the whole month before it happens. >> this is a question from crystal in north carolina. she says, i have no idea how to put my husband and son on a budget. my husband is the sole wage earner. my son is 18, still studying in school. when he needs something he just gets it. i have no idea how to do a budget. we are slowly drowning. i don't know how to save us. >> how is he getting it without a credit card? >> this is the interesting thing. how do i put my husband on a budget. it's like how do you put somebody else on a diet.

it doesn't happen. >> especially if he's the sole breadwinner. >> exactly. they have to sit down as a family and decide the family values. what are they going to do as a family. that's really important. >> like what? >> vacations and -- >> for me, me and my husband have four children. our kids and their college education is value to us. having family together time. having financial security is something that's important, a value to us. if you are overspending and spending things that aren't according to those values, get rid of them. they won't help in your life. >> how is this young boy, 18 years old, able to purchase things -- >> exactly. >> mom and dad gave him a credit card. >> right. >> or he could have applied for one. >> that's true. >> without any -- >> yeah. >> i had one. >> my first one was my first week of college. >> i had one, too. >> mm. they get you. >> it's all great advice. >> terrific. thank you so much. we're proud of you. >> thank you.

>> they speak several languages but you only need to understand one. >> the language of love. >> il divo on our stage. >>

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the citi concert series on "today" is proudly presented by citi. >> just when we thought the day couldn't get better we are about to be serenaded by four fine guys known as il divo. the classical crossover group sold more than 30 million albums. they have 50 number one singles. their latest album is called "amother il passion." they are going to be next door at the radio city music hall tomorrow night. >> have you ever played radio city? >> we have played it before. but not for a long time. >> yeah. that's an awesome, awesome venue. i love how you bumped it up a

notch. you have performed for us. we got to see a little of the rehearsal but we are about to see something different. >> they have added the feminine touch. >> a lot of touches. we have a feminine touch. we now have dancers on the show with us. we dance with them. we play instruments. we are doing solo songs. it is a whole new tour. >> all right. >> that keeps it fresh for you, too, doesn't it? >> yeah. >> what are you singing today? ♪

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♪ >> whoo! >> il divo. >> that was great. >> beautifully done. >> let's bring the ladies back. you were great, too. >> that was beautiful. >> radio city music hall tomorrow night, everybody. >> we have more in a moment. >> first, this is "today" on nbc. great job, guys. ♪ i think my strongest asset, maybe by far, is my temperament. i'd like to punch him in the face, i'll tell you. i would bomb the [bleep] out of 'em. i could stand in the middle of 5th avenue and shoot somebody and i wouldn't lose any voters, okay? and you can tell them

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