the fallout from donald trump's vulgar comments continues. we'll discuss how women are reacting and hear from a local sexual abuse expert who believes there's actually an upside to trump's degrading words. >> people have told me i'm embarrassing my family -- >> later in the show, we'll discuss women in a different kind of fight, boxing. its popularity is growing among fans and promoters. one local woman has jumped in the ring and tells us why she's willing to take such a beating. it's not just eagles fan who love carson wentz, politicians love him too, even winning over

the white house. >> good morning, i'm jacqueline london for nbc 10 @ issue. a decade old recording making vulgar comments about women have people on both sides of the aisle condemning his words. back in 2005, trump was speaking with access hollywood host billy bush about a soap opera gig when the conversation turned to bush's co-host, nancy o dell. access hollywood is owned and distributed by nbc universal, the parent company of nbc 10. although we have edited what is said, you might find this disturbing. >> she's now got the big phony [ bleep ] and totally changed her look. >> you can do anything grab them by the [ bleep ]. >> i said it and i was wrong and i apologize. >> he referred to his comments as locker room talk. since the video was released, dozens of republicans have withdrawn their support and many democrats have condemned his comments.

and so have many women. after the comments were made public, writer kelly oxford asked women to share their stories of sexual assault on twitter. oxford wrote, women tweet me your first assaults, they aren't just stats. i'll go first. old man on city bus grabs me and smiles at me. i'm 12. >> now, thousands of women responded with their own stories of sexual assault. many of the women saying they had never told anyone about the incidents until now. and joining me now is cherry hill therapist botlin, a specialty in trauma and abuse and believes there's an upside to trump's comments about women. >> thanks for having me. >> what is the upside? >> the upside is it's causing so much dialogue, people are hearing stories and deciding you know what, i'm going to come forward and talk about my own story. i'm not going to keep this to

myself anymore. it became a rallying cry of sorts for survivors when aumg or kelly oxford asked people to tweet, 27 million women responded for 14 hours consecutively. >> as soon as we started hearing these stories about trump and the comments he's making about women, what it does is it stirs up so much anger and feeling and so many women out there thinking these are things that happened to me. one person starts to talk about their story and then it's like a domino effect. it gives permission for others to come forward and speak about their own experience. >> how damaging can that be? >> this is what -- this is the work that i'm doing. what happens for people is they live their life for years and years filled with fear and shame. knowing that bad things have happened to them and at times having that be repeated over and over again. so what it means is that people can't live a full life and can't

have relationships where they feel safe or comfortable in their bodies, they develop different types of mental illnesses like post traumatic stress disorder and depression. a lot of people will end up using different types of self-destructive mechanisms to cope with the feelings they are not speaking about. really is can actually ruin someone's life, not having something bad happen to them but not having a way to talk about it and express it and heal from it. >> of course, you say there is a down side as well when women are openly criticized, you say that normalizes the behavior. explain that. >> i think there are people who come from families where they don't know what is and isn't okay. for them it's normal to live in a family where maybe the men are talking down to the women or the men are mistreating the women. so then we go on living our lives and hear stories like this. and it almost makes it seem

normal, the way like, for instance, trump may be talking about someone, a woman. that person may think this is -- this is what i know. this is -- i don't understand what the issue is. i thought this was okay. there's a lot of women out there in relationships and they think it's normal to be treated less than or to be made to feel bad about themselves as females, that's the down side. it kind of affirms what they already think is the right way to be and it's not the right way to be and not okay. >> especially when you see those families together and people wearing vulgar shirts, a man in a pennsylvania rally wearing one, he was with his wife and children. they were all wearing shirts with comments that many considered vulgar. >> right and the problem with that, when you have a family and have somebody in the family having these beliefs, if you're in that family, you need to stand by that family.

that's your family. so we don't really even know what everybody in that family is thinking. there could be the kid and wife could be thinking, this is not what i want, i don't like this but you're in a situation, what are you supposed to do? speak out against the people that are your supporters or do you just sort of go along with it? that's one of the things zairery about all of this. there's a lot of people in the world that think they are supposed to go along with what our role models are saying. they think they are not supposed to question or challenge those notions. so that's -- i think that's very scary. >> of course it's not just men. what about the women who were launching similar attacks and even laughing at lewd behavior and t-shirts that are worn that being consider lewd. >> i think some are laughing but underneath it they are feeling uncomfortable and nervous. some may be in situations where

they are being mistreated and feel like i have to kind of go along with this. if i speak out or say this is not okay, then i may put myself at risk. just because they are standing there and they are openly supporting something, that doesn't mean that that's what they believe. >> and why now. we heard donald trump saying other negative comments about women. why did this video and audio from the access hollywood bus cause such an uproar in your opinion? >> i think the thing with this video the way he says it. it sounds like he's not just saying it, he's doing it. there's something about the way he describes it and it's almost like he's admitting to having done these things. >> many victims were saying it's not just what trump said but indeed how he said it almost, a casual tone and dismissal of it as mere locker room talk underscoring the problem many thought. >> i would say that when he's

saying that, when he's talking about how this is just stuff that men talk about in the locker room. what's scary and what concerns me and what stirs up so much people is he says it with such conviction and such sted fast belief, it's almost as if when i sit there and watch it, i feel like i'm watching him do those actions to other people. he doesn't just sort of casually say it in a like, joking way. i feel like he was actually saying something that he did to somebody else. >> what kind of tips do you have for women and advice do you have for women should they confront those wearing clothing they feel offensive, if they hear someone say something they don't particularly agree with. should there be a confrontation or should they avoid it all together? >> when i'm walking down my street or one of my patients walking down the street, they are triggered by something somebody wears on their shirt.

you hold your head up high and tell yourself i'm a good person and this is not okay and you walk. you keep walking. if you're in a relationship with somebody and it's your friend and if it's someone in your family and you have strong feelings about what they are wearing or what the words say, i think it is important to say something, to say maybe even to ask, like explain to me -- tell me what you think in terms of these words, tell me how you think that's okay. tell -- i need to understand more. maybe don't be in someone's face about it but just express curiosity and be direct and up front how you feel. this is not -- i don't like this, this makes me uncomfortable. this upsets me. >> what should you do if you see someone, a friend of yours on facebook and posting things that you don't agree with. is it okay to unfriend? is that taking it too far? >> i would say for anyone who

has been through any type of trauma or sexual assault, if you're going down your facebook feed and one of your quote/unquote friends is saying something that really, really hits a button or triggers strong feelings in that situation, i think you need to take that person off of your social media because you don't want to be in a situation where people are saying things and you're just sort of going through your phone and sent into a flashback strong feelings and you're feeling upset and it's stirring up feelings of shame. i think there are -- you have to pay attention to what you feel. if you have a strong reaction and it's hitting a button for you, you don't want that on your facebook, you need to take care of yourself. >> not just if you don't agree with someone politically, you have to appreciate someone for their differences regardless of who you support. >> absolutely. >> when something as serious as sexual assault, that's when you say there should be a difference

maker. >> i think that's the part that's really upsetting is that when we're hearing all of this talk, then people are saying but that's not really the issue. there's bigger issues here that we need to focus on. but i guess what i would want to say to you, anyone who has been through any type of situation where they've been assaulted, harassed, mistreated, the impact, the overall effect it has on someone is so much more important than how the politicians talk about it. it ruins people's lives when they -- when there's that one minute where someone that's supposed to care about them decides they are going to do something that's -- and you don't want it to affect you negativively any further. thank you so much for being here. we appreciate your insight. >> thank you. >> donald trump issued a statement on facebook after the

video was released, i've said and done things i regret. this was locker room banter and apologize if anyone was offended. the face of a local boxer when we come back, you'll meet the woman who says it's a look she's proud of next on "nbc 10 @ issue."

people have told me that this isn't lady like, they told me i'm embarrassing my family and told me this is not a way to find a husband. >> that was emmy from a recent new balance promotion, shea is a bouncer, boxer.

why women who want to enter the wri ring is a mystery to many. thanks so much for being here. emmy, i want to start with you, what made you initially become interested in boxing? >> i started kung fu as a self-defense system and we sparred one day in class and i hit this kid way too hard, they banned me from sparring and said i don't hit like that and i asked them to spend me somewhere where i could learn to fight. >> what was the initial reaction from family members when you told them i want to box? >> they thought i was kidding. they thought it would be a phase and it wasn't. there's not a whole lot of support on that end and they love me and understand i'm going to push forward with my dreams. >> talk about the injuries you endured. we saw the pictures and it looks pretty bad. >> that concussion was definitely the worse, getting shirs and fat lips are pretty

regular but the concussion was the worst. >> when you look at that picture of yourself, what do you see? >> i see a warrior. stuff happens and you get hurt in the ring and you decide whether or not you're going to get back in and i knew after that fight i was going to get back in the ring. >> talking to your training, greg prit chet, this is becoming more and more popular with women. why do you think that is? >> boxing with laila ali and chrissy martin, it was in the mainstream. when it retired, they died out. with the ufc and women that want to box are actually able to come out and shine some more. it's not out where it should be, where it once was but it's grown. >> promoters are slowly coming on board getting more involved, getting more money and attention to the sport with women.

>> indeed. there are -- even in our gym, we have several women that train boxing and kick boxing and it's just becoming more and more popular. i have more women that come into class throughout the week than men, like new students coming over, mostly women. >> do you worry about women getting hurt? >> no, not at all. >> why not? >> i don't worry about it so much because we don't put them out there until they are ready. i mean, they are just like anyone else, i have daughters that went through the martial arts and one that compete and she was a bruiser. >> you're telling me the difference between amateur and pro, you don't wear head gear. tell me why not? >> that fight was in delaware and the delaware commission does not -- it allows amateurs to not wear head gear, pennsylvania commission has different rules, i think every amateur in

pennsylvania has to have head gear. >> when they ask you before a fight, do you want to wear head gear or not, you always say no? >> they don't ask you, they tell you. you know whether or not you'll have head gear on. no head gear or -- >> boxing, you have a choice. boxing, if you are a a novice or regular open class there's head gear, if you are considered elite open class, there's no head gear. >> would you like to be an inspiration to young girls who look at you, who you like to serve as a role model for them to be interested in the sport to you? >> sure, that would be awesome. i want people -- especially young women to live the lives they dream of. that's more important. regardless if they end up in martial arts or boxing. >> women can make a pretty decent living as a boxer, right? >> boxing i wouldn't say is as popular to make a decent living

for women just yet, even for men, you have to be the top of the food chain in order to make a decent living in boxing. >> and while a lot of people might see it as a victory in terms of equality for men's and women's rights, i know a lot of people have resisted and said you should not be in the ring and shouldn't fight as a woman. who is your response to that? >> you know, there's a point where you smile and tip your hat and let it go. i'm not going to change anybody's opinions by conversation if they want to come to see me fight or go see other women fight, they can do that. >> how hard was it for your family to see you the first time in the ring or see video of you boxing? >> they've never seen me fight. so i don't know. >> would you like them to watch? >> if they want, i'm not going to force them. it's a hard thing for them to wrap their heads around so -- >> but you can understand -- >> absolutely, they love you, don't want you to get hurt.

>> thank you so much for being here. best of luck to you. >> thanks. he caught the attention of philadelphia faster than you could say rookie quarterback and now even the white house is talking about the eagles carson webts. wentz

. nbc 10 recently went back to carson wentz's home state of north dakota and learned that people there think of them as a hero. but wentz's reach goes beyond his home state and philadelphia. now john clark tells us they are talking about wentz in the white house. >> vice president joe biden saw carson wentz's nfl debut in person and he made sure to tell his boss about it. >> he told me, barack, you've got to get on the wentz wagon. >> my wife is a philly girl. i'm getting so damned angry,

she's getting so excited about wentz, i can't stand it. you know what i mean? >> even chelsea clinton tweeted out a picture of her son getting a little wentz jersey. her husband a devoted fan. in downtown fargo, doug bergham the republican candidate for governor, it's on his land that carson spent his bye week shooting a buck. >> hometown hero before he even gets drafted. >> outside north dakota's state campus, the bison is the image of the university. inside the fargo dome, carson's image is a big one. >> he's a classic north dakotan, honest, has a great sense of humor and he's passionate about life. >> perhaps that's the reason his flag flies so high that tat the

bison tailgate. >> pop in the water. >> that's a fish house, normally used for ice fishing on bison saturdays it becomes a home for tailgating and of course talking carson wentz. >> he is the ambassador, he represents north dakota and north dakota people appreciate him like him, want to be a part of him. >> that was csn's john clark reporting. people in north dakota are well aware of the way philadelphia sports fans can passionately love or hate their athletes but no one seems worried whether or not wentz can meant tally handle philly. people still tailgate in subzero temps and winter conditions that would prompt a state of emergency condition in philly. we'll be right back. (narrator) attention medicare beneficiaries.

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