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people are looking for change. they're tired of the political crap. >> everybody is concerned about jobs and the economy. >> i think they're finally being hired. on wednesday the keystone state flipped from blue to red. today, why so many were so wrong about voters here. republicans took key raises in pennsylvania but one local democrat survived. today we'll hear from the state's attorney general, josh shapiro. will it be the first to go? president-elect donald trump promises to kill obamacare. we'll talk about the local impact. good morning, i'm rosemary connors for "nbc 10 @ issue." both candidates made a push for
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pennsylvania knowing it was a key battleground state in the race for the white house. in the end, trump won pennsylvania. pennsylvania was supposed to be hillary clinton's blue firewall. as we zoom in closer on the greater philadelphia region, you can see where burke county tipped in favor of mr. trump. berks county has one of the highest hispanic numbers in the state. >> reporter: the coffee machines are buzzing after a late night election call. loyal supporters grab a celebratory breakfast. this family voted trump into the white house. >> to me it wasn't so much of a surprise. >> reporter: small towns just like this one across the commonwealth, buying into trump's promises of protecting
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blue collar jobs. >> i think that they're finally being heard. a lot of people are out of work looking for full-time employment. our miners and our steelworkers. >> we certainly cannot have our jobs going to mexico and other places. >> reporter: rural and overwhelmingly white voters turned out in huge numbers, flipping pennsylvania for the first time in decades. and a closer look at nbc's county by county map shows how wide those margins were. here in berks county, trump winning by ten percentage points. lancaster county, by almost 20. in rural schuylkill county, trump with an astounding 43-point lead. >> hillary has been in there 30-some years and never did anything for us. i'm a farmer. >> reporter: critics say the rural vote was also fueled by racial resentment brought out by trump's incendiary campaign. voters said it was more about changing the status quo. >> we want change.
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we are worried about our jobs. we want to make money and fill comfortable. >> reporter: randy gyllenhaal, nbc 10 news. joining me is the chairman of the philadelphia gop and a democratic analyst. thanks for being here. eleanor, what went wrong for the democrats? >> we didn't have the turnout that we expected and didn't have the turnout in philadelphia, which was very important, and the suburbs like montgomery, delaware, chester county. those numbers were not there, rosemary. that was very difficult. also i truly believe that people did not tell who they were voting for. they didn't tell pollsters, they didn't tell phone banks. they just don't feel like they're anonymous anymore because of social media, caller i.d. it's very hard to poll people anymore. >> and the candidates were polar rising for men. >> exactly. it was a very personal vote this time. >> joe, in terms of the rural vote, why did the pollsters and
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pundits underestimate rural votes' ability to mobilize and come out in force? >> i think they skewed it based on 2008 and 2012. eleanor hit it right on the head. we call it the frank rizzo effect. rizzo always outperformed his polls. people didn't like saying it. people depresentfriended me on k because of my trump for donald trump. so those two things, you know, the skewing, plus them not being honest skewed the poll numbers. i think everybody was pretty shocked on election night. >> rosemary, years ago people relied on their committee person. they would go to the polls. the committee person was a community leader, neighborhood activist. and they would say, who would be good for us? nowadays that doesn't happen. the committee person might hand you litter, berature, but most
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get their information from social media and tv. the decision was made before they went to the polls. >> almost too much information, sometimes. >> exactly. >> joe, donald trump broke the conventional practices and norms of running for president and won. what does this say about the process? >> he shattered everybody's idea on how to run a campaign. he broke the mold. i worked on the romney campaign. every tweet that romney put out had to be viewed by 13 people before it was sent. trump is laying in bed tweeting at 3:00 a.m. about a former miss universe. it made people feel in touch with him. that was a problem that hillary had, she was not able to connect with people on a personal level whereas donald trump was. i think you'll see a more personal approach to campaigns and less of the same-old, same-old. with hillary, everything she said was canned. the most real speech i heard
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from her was her concession speech yesterday. >> i see you shaking your head during some of joe's comments about her liability and her ability to relate. >> she wasn't able to connect, unfortunately. when you look at the map of pennsylvania, you showed it a while ago, it was so red. barack obama only won 12 counties eight years ago. and the thing is, the numbers came out in those counties. those numbers just didn't come out. and the rural vote, erie was the strange one, up in the northwest. that was a bellwether of democratic votes. it went red. when you see that, you know we didn't connect. >> why didn't people come out? >> i'm not sure yet who didn't come out. the interesting thing is, when you saw independence hall monday night, it was full of millennials. but now i'm being told the millennials didn't vote. like joe said, were people just not interested in the top of the
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ticket and then they didn't come? i don't know yet. we have to analyze it. but i think the millennials didn't come out. >> they came out to see katy perry, barack obama. that's the problem. center county was virtually even. barack obama killed in center county, that's where penn state is. erie, philadelphia, the margins were shifted by 50,000 votes. the state was only won by 70. you shift 50,000 in philadelphia, you're back to 20%. turnout was actually higher here than it was, but her vote total was a 25,000-vote drop-off. >> you look at who won statewide, the democrats won the treasurer's office, the auditor general, and the attorney general, which shows that people nowadays know how to split a vote. they wanted to say pennsylvania is still blue in some respects. there really was ticket-splitting and knowledgeable voting going on. >> but they did stay with toomey in the senate race.
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>> that was going to be my point. that was almost a ticket split. you had toomey essentially running independent from trump. in philadelphia he's up 2.5%, he was close to 18%. that was unheard of. his team was expecting 14%. the center city, arlen specter type republicans, they went with clinton at the top of the ticket but came home and went for pat toomey where is the blue dog democrats voted for trump and stuck with toomey. >> we had so many police and fire, they both endorsed toomey. law enforcement was going with toomey. and public safety was such an issue in this campaign. >> back to the presidential race, in terms of donald trump and his relationship with the gop establishment, clearly in this election, having a fractured party and having division within the party was not a disadvantage. >> i think it was good, people are sick of the establishment.
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look, i guess i'm the establishment. but people are sick of it, they wanted change. they didn't care how that change came. and this is sick of gridlock in washington. they want movement. they want a supreme court justice. they want bills brought up for votes. they are tired of the gridlock. that's what i hear all the time from people. we want action down there. they just don't feel there's anything going on. they want their representatives doing something. >> they feel he's going to come in and make action on day one. you look at his first hundred days, are we going to build a wall, get rid of syrian refugees, obamacare? >> which we'll be talking about in a few short minutes. eleanor, where do the democrats go from here? >> i hope we've learned some lessons. and i think we have to go back, regroup. i think the good thing is that we elected state-wide candidates. next year there will be judges on the ballot, and more local races.
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in 2018 we'll be electing offices again, we have to look at all those races. we have to go back and take a look at this. i think we have to groom some new blood. >> all right. eleanor and joe, thanks for being with us, we appreciate your thoughts and insights. >> and we all have to get together and support the president. >> i'm for that. >> country united. coming up next on "nbc 10 @ issue," josh shapiro, how the democrat held on as major races went to the republicans.
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in president-elect donald trump and gave another term to senator pat toomey. josh, after a busy week, thanks for being with us. >> good to be with you. >> katie mcginty couldn't convince enough pennsylvanians to vote her in and people had to split their ballot to vote for you. what did you do differently? >> people decided who they wanted to be for. i traveled around the state and listened and put forth solutions to address problems, whether it's scams against seniors, making our communities safer. i went out every day and listened to them and talked about solutions. >> you are inheriting an office characterized as dysfunctional and rife with scandal in the wake of your predecessor's conviction. what's the first thing you do on
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day one to change that? >> i talked a lot in this campaign about my executive experience, understanding how to clean up a mess as i did in montgomery county. we'll start by announcing a senior leadership team, a transition team to help us understand a little better what's going on in that office and reforms we want to put in place, and recommending some people that we can bring in as part of my core senior team. it will be diverse and responsive to meet the needs of the people of pennsylvania, and people who like me are willing to work their tails off to address the needs of the people of pennsylvania. over the course of the next couple of months, we'll be ready to walk in there with a new vision for the office, one that's been given a mandate by the voters. and i'll focus on restoring integrity to the office, making sure everybody signs a code of conduct, goes through ethics training, making sure we have a chief diversity officer banning gifts, things like that. >> including gifts from friends? >> we're going to develop a gift
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ban policy. i want to make sure the people have confidence that no one is for sale in their justice system. we want to make sure that's across the board, from the attorney general on to the person who answers telephones. >> you mentioned the heroin crisis, the opioid epidemic. a big part of tacking that has to be funding. how do you make that part of your plat for form into somethi that's effective? >> we have a huge pipeline of heroin coming into the state. we have to work with district attorneys across pennsylvania to better organize that operation. we'll stop drug dealers wherever they are. the second bucket is making sure we divert those from the criminal justice system into treatment. drug addiction is a disease, not a crime. third, i'll work closely with the medical community to reduce the overprescribing of opioid painkillers. there are plenty of people out there who responsibly use painkillers and obviously we're
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not intrusive in impacting their lives. others are using it as a gateway into heroin. we have to partner with the medical community. >> the treatment portion is where funding comes in. >> but remember, if you're incarcerating a drug addict who is nonviolent, you're spending $20,000 a year. there's savings in the system if we're smarter about how we combat the number one killer in pennsylvania. it was the central focus of my campaign and it's what i'll enact immediately when i take office. >> does donald trump's victory have any impact on your new job? >> obviously as attorney general, i look forward to working with whomever he names as the attorney general. there are serious issues in our community. we need to apply the law without fear and favor and work in a nonpartisan way. i'm a proud democrat, but now i'm the attorney general for all
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pennsylvanians. i think in this job, because of the nature of this job, you really have to check your partisanship at the door. you have to put your party label aside. again, very proud democrat, but put that aside in order to focus on the real issues at hand. i expect to be able to work with other people in the justice department in washington, other attorneys general, district attorneys, no matter what party they're from. we've got a serious and important job to do. to be honest with you, this is no more time for politics. now we have to focus on doing the work. >> one last thought. you've been called a rising star, ambitious. will you complete this term? >> of course. i said that over and over again. and i'm so honored and really humbled by this awesome responsibility. i look forward to the next four years as the people's attorney general. >> josh shapiro, thanks so much for being with us, we appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up, president-elect donald trump promises to repeal obamacare. next we'll discuss who could get hit hard if the federal health care plan goes away.
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obamacare has to be replaced. and we will do it and we will do it very, very quickly. it is a catastrophe. >> it's a promise president-elect donald trump has made from the very beginning of his campaign. now the question is how soon before the affordable care act disappears and what will happen to the people who have it. house speaker paul ryan says repeal of the health care law is a major priority and the republicans already have an alternative plan, one that president obama rejected. adam beck joins us, thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> how quickly can the affordable care act be repealed and what will we start to see the impact? >> the president-elect and republican majority in congress has made clear this is one of their top priorities, definitely a first hundred days priorities. i wouldn't be surprised if we
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saw this happen on vjanuary 21s. but there's a difference between repealing the affordable care act and it actually disappearing. most of it, it looks like, will be repealed early on in the administration. but the think about the aca is we really had two separate bills. so the republican congress will be able to repeal the tax and spending provisions, anything having to do with the tax credits that make the exchange possible with taxes on higher income americans, and they will likely repeal the medicare expansion, but other aspects will be able to be filibustered. the entire act isn't going away about the important stuff will be repealed right away, then we'll see what i imagine will be a two-year transition period. if you're on the exchange, you'll still be on the exchange in 2017. there may still be expanded medicaid, that's a question mark. for someone who is lower income and has health conditions and is
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dependent on medicaid, that's a real question. the real change won't go into effect until 2018. >> you mentioned the possibility of a filibuster. tell us more about that. >> look, the republicans have a majority in the senate but they don't have a filibuster-proof majority. assuming that the filibuster remains intact, which may be a question for senator mcconnell, but assuming there is still a filibuster in 2017, they won't be able to entirely repeal the affordable care act, they won't have the votes to do that. but anything that can be scored by the congressional budget office they can repeal. >> what do we know the republicans' plan? >> very little. there are a few bullet points the president-elect has outlined on the transition website. and it seems clear that between speaker ryan's better way proposal and what the president-elect has talked about in the past, that there are a couple of high level ideas that they've thrown out such as being able to buy health insurance
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across state lines, block grant medicaid. he has proposed the idea of making health insurance tax deductible. that would impact higher income americans more than lower income americans, and it's not a dollar for dollar credit. that's something we've seen only from the president-elect and not from speaker ryan or from republicans in the past. so it's really tough to evaluate what the replace part of obamacare would be. the repeal part is happening. the replace, i would say that's the million dollar question. right now that's a several billion dollar question for americans and for that industry. >> to be determined. speaking of americans who are going to be impacted, who will be affected the most? >> low income americans. with the repeal part, as long as the plan is repealed, as long as the affordable care act goes away and we don't see a replacement that really hits the
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same sort of spots, the same income levels that the affordable care act does, 22 million americans are going to lose their health insurance. primarily that would appear to be lower income americans who are right now dependent on medicare or the lower and middle class americans who are dependent on the tax credits that make the exchange affordable for them. if you've got a chronic health condition and you're a lower income american, this could be a very unwelcome surprise. >> two portions of the affordable care act that have been popular among people are the fact that there are -- it allows you to stay on it until you're 26 on your parents' plan and also if you have a preexisting condition. what will happen to those portions? >> again, we really don't know until we see a plan. with the repeal portion, if we're just talking repeal, those will both go away, you'll be able to deny someone on the basis of a preexisting health condition and reject coverage
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