>> she's always on her phone. >> definitely you asking too many questions. >> the winding down after work. renee and i have different outlets. my church is a butt-kicking sweaty workout like punching. >> i'm with you on that. i like to sweat. not punch so much. i like to practice yoga. let's head to new york where a.j. is getting some tips on how you can find his inner zen thanks to gma's dan harris. >> it was his live on air meltdown.

>> may also lower their risk for cancer. >> gma weekend anchor dan harris with his -- >> it's too early to prescribe sentence for cancer production. >> this is now dan calmer than ever. >> thanks to meditating. >> my wife gave me a book that started me meditating. i was not into this at all. then i saw all the scientists suggesting it could lower your blood pressure, boost your immune system and rewire parts of your brain. >> are you a better husband because of meditation? >> i think i'm better than i used to be, and i'm much quicker at apologizing. >> have we gotten her to meditate a little? >> she's a tough case. i'm built going to lie how to you. >> dan writing the best seller meditation for fidgety skeptics. >> you are on a crusade to get everybody to do this. >> you have to look at a nerf crusade. you should consider this an option. >> his top tip? >> i actually think five to ten minutes a day is a great habit and that if you are doing five

to ten minutes a day, you will get many of the benefits that science suggests you will get. >> if you can master that -- >> congratulations. you're a meditator. >> i like this. >> when she's kidnapped by human traffickers, her brother set out to save her before it's too late. with me now melissa. >> cheers. >> congratulations on the film. that's awesome. the name is acts of violence. tell me about it. >> acts of violence. >> acts of violates. >> it's a great cast too. bruce willis, sofa bush. how was it working with those guys? >> i mean, bruce willis, to work with him, he is the consequence mat hollywood leading man. >> i'll do everything i can to try to find her.

>> and sofia has a tremendous amount of energy. she's just -- if she's around, no one is in a bad mood. >>. >> it's directed by the ultimate king of acting mr. rob cullen. he is responsible for "fast and furio furious" and "triple x." >> let's talk about this other film the year of spectacular men. >> the year of spectacular men is one of my favorite projects. it's directed by actress director lea thompson. i played lewhy's girlfriend. >> ook that the diversity. you are getting kidnapped and a lover to lea thompson. >> i know. i know. >> well, congratulations on everything. >> thank you. >> looking forward to seeing you in all those films. "act of violence" in theaters now. awards season is in full swing, and it continues this weekend at the sag awards, and the after party for the official magazine and foundation sag

award gala. >> welcome melanie chu who is here to tell us all about it. >> all the biggest stars will be there for hosting the party this year with tnt and tbs for the first time. all the nominees, all the presenters will be there. >> and taking home his or her gift bags. >> okay. what's in the gift bag? break it down. >> for the first time this year we had male and female love bags for every guest to take home.

snoo that's it for us this weekend. for the latest headlines head over to extra tv.com. before we go, can we please just revisit your throwback for this week. it's everything. the sequins and onesy. have a great weekend, everybody. >> on the set of m16 -- mi -- >> the country where she adopted her -- >> >> hey, lady. >> the big little liar stars are about to get some dig -- >> sorry. >> yeah, mario. >> here the set of -- la la la la la. >> man. >> yeah. >> man.

>> you also have a responsibility responsibility. >> i'm jacking up everybody's names. names. >> welcome home, mr. i'm sara gore, and this is open house. this week, we're all about the inspiring visions of a few new design stars. designer and artist laura kirar shows how she subverted the expectations in her client's loft. and designer bennett leifer shows off his own apartment on new york's gramercy park. plus, brock forsblom tells us why his maximalist aesthetic was perfect for his greenwich village apartment. but first, we joined katie hodges at her client's beverly hills home. katie hodges: everything we selected, from the pillow

fabrics to the bed, give this newly built space a much needed old-world character-- to bring in that soul that the house really needed. [music playing] welcome to open house. this week we're all about the inspiring visions of a few new designers. and we start things off with katie hodges in beverly hills. her client's home is a 1930s spanish colonial filled with original architectural detail. check out how katie preserved all those elements while still making it feel fresh and current with custom furniture, layering, and subtle color. [music playing] hi, my name is katie hodges, and i'm an interior designer. welcome to my beverly hills project that i spent about two years completely renovating and redecorating. we're going to check out some of my favorite spaces in the house. so let's go inside and take a look. [music playing] [music playing]

now, here in the living room, i had a beautiful palette to work off of. the ceiling detail is original and didn't take much revamping. however, the fireplace is something that i focused a lot of attention on. formerly, this was a bulky, big, stone fireplace. so what we did is scale the design back and got master plaster workers in to create a beautiful shape so that it looked original and didn't look like we were forcing it. i kept the furniture in here pretty muted and neutral. i used this gorgeous organic linen that i made these two sofas in. the key to decorating an old home like this is to make sure nothing looks too new or too shiny. i used a vintage moroccan rug and tons of vintage textiles to bring in that soul that the house really needed. let's move on over to the parlor. [music playing] the owners wanted a place where they can entertain and enjoy their extensive wine and liquor collection, so we created this beautiful parlor where they can do just that. this room was an addition to the original house. and when designing it, it was important to keep

the architectural integrity of this room, and make sure it fits with our original house. certain elements, like the wood beams and the plaster fireplace, accomplish just that, and keep it from looking too modern. one of my favorite features is the custom iron shelving that holds all the liquor bottles and serves as the centerpiece of the room. next stop, the library. [music playing] formerly purposeless, this room was right off the entry and had no utility. the idea on the library came to me when i toured the client's former home. when i saw their extensive collection of books, a light bulb went off, and, immediately, i knew this was the right direction to go in. like other areas in the house, architectural integrity was top of mind with this room as well. one of my favorite focal points is the kerr fireplace in the corner. one of the really special things about this fireplace is the custom hand-painted tiles that i had sourced specifically for this job. now, off to one of my favorite places in the house, the master suite. [music playing] when we decided to create this master suite,

it was meant to serve as a contained living space in and of itself, almost like a suite in a luxury hotel. in the master lounge, a cozy tv-viewing area was the priority, as well as desk space that the owner can work from home at his leisure. most of the furniture was made custom with my signature sprinkling of vintage pieces throughout. the master bedroom was an addition. and i'm most proud of the layout and the charm that the architectural details created. everything we selected, from the pillow fabrics to the bed, give this newly built space some much needed old-world character. a master suite this gorgeous wouldn't be complete without a killer bathroom. hand-painted custom tiles are the big statement here. and i kept the color palette clean and simple throughout to not compete with the tiles. even though there are a lot of features in this bathroom, such as the sauna and soaking tub, it still feels quaint and accessible. [music playing] thank you for joining me on this house tour. i'm so excited to have been able to share this project with you. [music playing]

the revamped original details really felt modern and fresh with all those chic design choices. coming up next, designer rob forsblom, takes us around his eye popping greenwich village pad. welcome to my apartment in the west village, or as i like to call it, my interwar technicolor dreamhouse. [music playing] narrator: open house is sponsored in part by, coldwell banker, the real estate company with real advantages. find your home today at coldwellbanker.com.

welcome back. now, we're in new york's greenwich village neighborhood at the apartment of interior designer, brock forsblom. brock embraced a maximalist design aesthetic for what is a relatively small new york space. despite the size, he loved the layout, and made sure every nook burst with vibrant color and pattern. it's a home that celebrates the bold,

audacious, and unexpected. take a look. [music playing] hey, i'm interior designer brock forsblom, and welcome to my apartment in the west village, or as i like to call it, my interwar, technicolor dreamhouse. [music playing] it's a one bedroom apartment, so it's not huge. but it's got an incredible layout, which means i've been able to use a lot of the different spaces in a multitude of ways. by using vibrant color, pattern, and eclectic accessories, i was able to maximize every nook. let's take a closer look. [music playing] entries are a great place to make a first impression. but they're usually pass-through spaces. i think this entry is the best part of the layout of the apartment. it leads you into every other part of the apartment, and i think it's just a great place to hang out. multipurpose spaces are super important in a small apartment. so of course, this is also my dining room. [music playing] the architectural niche frames this painting, a custom work

on canvas by a friend of mine. the same friend also painted these ortiere panels. they separate this room from the living room, and help them both feel like distinct spaces. the transition also makes the apartment feel larger. [music playing] there's admittedly a lot going on in this living. the challenge for me is that it's a narrow space. so i had to do a lot of different things to make it seem wider and therefore bigger. obviously, we have to start by talking about this wall mural. it totally opens up the room by giving it this perspective. the globe is the centerpiece, literally the world on your wall. and the rest of it radiates out in this soft dreamy way. it's illuminated in part by the sconces. now, i love sconces. i really think they can change a room. they're dimensional, soft, and romantic, which aren't bad qualities to bring to a living space. [music playing] spacing is important. you want your guests to be able to easily move through the room without bumping into anything.

now, in a narrow room like this that can be a challenge. but just remember to create channels between all the pieces. this sofa a french piece from the 1940s i had re-upholstered in a vibrant pink. it anchors the room along with the sideboard. chairs float in pairs and are light enough to scooch in closer so everybody can join the conversation. and i placed the chaise by the window, so you can lounge in the morning sun or take in the breeze. i love decorating with books. and i've use them as structural elements throughout the entire apartment. they accentuate every surface. and there's always something to read that isn't your phone. [music playing] as a book lover, i knew i wanted a library. but as a renter in new york, who has space for that? so i use this as a second living room, den, breakfast nook, and library. it's off a standard galley kitchen, which is in new york knows is kind of drab. so i cheered it up with a coat of vibrant paint. [music playing] this bedroom is totally dreamy.

and even though it's definitely designed, it's still pretty chill. it's what you want a bedroom to be. on the headboard wall i used a custom fabric of a bamboo forest in grayscale. i repeated the fabric on the window treatments. it's a riff on a toile room. fresh, but old school. i layered the floor in a plush gray carpet. and then i echoed that tone on the bedspread. these tones allow the red headboard to really pop. i also mixed in these wood furnishings to give the space a classic touch. eccentric monkey table lamps always make me really happy to look at. and being happy is not a bad way to wake up in the morning. [music playing] layering and density allows you to go on a visual journey, regardless of the size. and that's what good design is all about. thanks a lot for coming. [music playing] now, brock holds a degree from yale in architecture, but he worked for years under renowned interior design and friend of the show tony ingrao. his home is definitely a dramatic example of his talent.

coming up next, designer bennett leifer shows us how he overcame some of the design challenges in his pre-war apartment. we'll see you after the break. [music playing]

welcome back. now we join interior designer bennett leifer for a look at how he brought style and flair to his pre-war apartment right on new york's gramercy park. he managed to make the apartment a distinct reflection of his personality and his lifestyle, while respecting the original architectural details. see for yourself. [music playing] hi, i'm bennett, the principal designer at bennett leifer interiors. welcome to my gramercy apartment, right across the street from one of new york's most beautiful and historic parks. [music playing] i think your home should be appropriate to your lifestyle and should honor the bones of your space.

i always maximize the visual impact of every room, no matter the size. because good design is as much about how it looks, as how well you can live in it. i've always loved this pre-war building, because of its neo-gothic style. when i walked into this foyer, i knew, with a little work, i could imagine myself living here. [music playing] this entry hall is the first space you see when you walk into the apartment and pretty large for a space this size. but it's the only room that has no windows. so i knew i had to maximize the light. so i chose a reflective and bright venetian plaster as well treatment. light colors are great for brightening spaces, but a lustre or glossy finish really helps reflect light as well. with the ethereal background established, i was then able to layer in the statement pieces, like this [inaudible] hand-painted screen. everyone should stay true to their taste. i love hand-painted wallpaper, but chose not to cover this entire space. i substituted it with this beautiful screen instead. [music playing] one of my passions is collecting art. i love this piece by miya ando. it serves a dual purpose in evoking

an emotional response from me and reflecting light in the space. design should have a function. this great vignette serves a dual purpose. it gives me a place to throw my keys, a little bit of hidden storage, and highlights some beautiful things, like the piece of art my mother gave me as a house warming gift. [music playing] this is my living room. it's the largest room in the apartment, but it's also the room where i spend the most time. you'll see a lot of elements of my signature design in here, but also a lot of great examples of how i like to make them room function well. here's a prime example of my design philosophy. i kept the original elements that came with the apartment, such as the mantle, but i refinished it to make it look like limestone. i also redid the hearth and skim coated the walls, because i wanted to preserve what was beautiful about the space, but modernize them and make them work for me. in regards to function, i selected furniture both for looks and for comfort. this sofa has clean lines and is perfect for lying back with a good book. the dining table is both beautiful and a great place to do work by the window. and i have one more space to show you. [music playing]

my goal with the bedroom was to make a bright and serene base, and then add pops of accents on top of it. i really like the color of this bedding, the detail in the rug. my favorite color in the rug inspired the bedding. even though it's a solid color, the channeling of the bedding has a lot of texture. for me, texture is almost as important as color when establishing a visual palette. design has to serve a function. this room may be really beautiful, but it serves its main purpose of letting me sleep really well tonight. [music playing] thank you for coming over and for taking a tour of my apartment. i hope you enjoyed learning about my design philosophies, and perhaps took away some tips that will help make your home more reflective of yourself and functional for your lifestyle. [music playing] sara gore: up next, artist and designer, laura kirar, shows off her client's loft apartment. we'll be right back. [music playing]

welcome back to open house. designer laura kirar approaches her projects with an artist's eye. and her interiors are filled with unique details that both surprise and delight. at her clients greenwich village pied-a-terre, every inch was conceptualized to carefully tread the line between form and function. let's join her for a closer look. [music playing] hi, i'm laura kirar. i'm an artist and a designer. welcome to this jewel box pied-a-terre that i designed in the west village. this was a designer's dream, because it was a full gut renovation. and so, we were able to do so many beautiful details from beginning to end. so let's go take a look. [music playing] this living room is the first thing you see when you step off the elevator. so it had to be dramatic. and it sets the tone for the rest of the apartment.

your eye is drawn to these curved oak walls and the migrating birds flying freely across. but they serve a practical purpose as added storage. and the birds are actually the hardware. i designed this carpet to have a wild energy around all of this serenity. i think there's something like 12 different colors in this rug. in the corner is the guernica chair, named after picasso's painting. it's my interpretation of the minotaur which features so prominently in the painting-- half man, half bull. its body is made of over 3,000 strands of leather fringe. i think it's the perfect example of functional art. but the showstopper is this polished brass fireplace. this living room, while serene, also engages your eye and spirit and allows you to discover its many surprises. [music playing] i wanted a little intrigue for the dining area, but also a space that encouraged both conversation and movement. this beautiful oak and steel table

strikes the perfect balance between refined and industrial. and i surrounded it with these stylish chairs i designed. overhead, the striking pendants cast a warm glow and add to the sensation of movement. [music playing] this kitchen, like the rest of the home, is filled with so many special details. the custom cabinets above have a bronze automotive finish, with a metallic lustre which captures the amber lighting of these pendants perfectly. but my favorite part of this kitchen are the hand-glazed raku tiles from japan. each one is a unique piece of art. [music playing] the centerpiece of any bedroom is, of course, the bed. and this bed is a true statement piece. the fact that it's huge and supremely comfortable doesn't hurt either. it's a little lower to the ground to play up to ceiling height. and the taupe leather headboard is extra tall, which really gives you the feeling of being enveloped.

i designed the textile on the headboard wall and railroaded the fabric to make it horizontal and soothing, like a landscape at dusk. the bedroom was filled with brass elements, most notably the bedside table lamps i designed. they add a touch of the hard industrials against the pillowey walls. and in the bathroom, all the fixtures are also brass. [music playing] this project is the ultimate example of our style and aesthetic, art and ideas. i wanted it to be a jewel box brimming with details. thanks for joining me. sara gore: coming up next, the important role social media now plays in real estate. we'll be right back. [music playing]

,$88doooooorw welcome back. social media has obviously become an integral part of our daily lives. so it's no surprise that it has also become a key factor in real estate. our friends at coldwell banker explained why having a social media strategy is so important and how best to implement it. [music playing] hi, i'm alexandra filiaci, and i'm the social media and content manager for coldwell banker real estate. did you know that coldwell banker is the number one most influential real estate brand on social media according to klout? at coldwell banker, we empower our agents to use social media marketing as a supplement to traditional tactics. from lifestyle content to highly targeted facebook ads to get listings in front of qualified buyers, our agents are marrying their local knowledge with the power of social media to make them the best in the business, and to help their clients homes get sold faster. hi, i'm roman novian with coldwell banker jim stewart realtors in waco, texas. it's so crucial to use social media in today's market, because everyone is on social media.

not only can buyers see the home on social media, but the sellers, who have their homes listed, can follow along and see the feedback that's coming in from potential buyers as they comment, and like, and share your posts. it's definitely a win-win for the agent and the client. my name is dave pardo. i'm the social media manager for coldwell banker real estate group in joliet, illinois. the people on social media today, they're the typical buyers and sellers. and we need to market to them. our agents strongly leverage the advertising tools to expose the listing, whether it be via sponsored post on facebook and instagram, as well as behavioral targeting marketing. social media is great for open houses to. simple techniques, such as facebook events, could attract hundreds of potential buyers. we are regularly researching data that tells us who our buyers and sellers are. our agents are constantly delivering unique and meaningful content that is of interest to that demographic, from local community information, industry news, to home improvement tips,

pet videos, and even recipes. coldwell banker agents let clients know that their home will be advertised on a variety of social media channels, which will target users that are more likely to purchase a home in the area and within the price range that it's listed under. agents know their market better than anyone, and buyers want that information. and there is no better way to get that out there than social media. knowing your target audience is the first step to social media success. coldwell banker provides numerous resources for their agents. things like our blue matter blog, cbx, and other content. roman novian: the cbx app makes it so easy to find out who's moving to your target area and where they're moving from. so you can actually focus on them in your ads. [music playing] ask your coldwell banker agent about how social media platforms, like facebook and instagram, will play a role in the marketing of your home. to find the right agent, visit coldwellbanker.com. clearly, social media is just one more essential tool

in finding the perfect home. that's all for now, but we hope you enjoyed this look at just a few of the designers we're excited about. if you know about a property we should tour, a designer we should follow, or you just want to share your own decor ideas with us, reach out on twitter, instagram, or facebook. and if you'd like to see any of these homes again, just head to openhousetv.com. thanks so much for watching, and i'll see you next week. [music playing] this sunday on the one-year anniversary of donald trump's presidency a government shutdown. both sides blaming the other. >> this will be called the trump shutdown. >> they wanted the shutdown. >> president trump earned an "f" for leadership. >> were do some crazy things in

washington, but this is utter madness! >> how did we get here, and what happens now? i'll ask the number two democrat in the senate, dick durbin and republican senator tom cotton who have also feuded over what president trump allegedly said about emgrants from africa, and white house director of legislative affairs marc short. plus, our brand new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll. where does president trump stand one year into his presidency, and the words supporters and opponents use to describe him. also -- hundreds of thousands of women march across the country protesting the president, many with an eye towards more women winning office this november. joining me for insight and analysis are "wall street journal" columnist peggy noonan, is nbc news national correspondent peter alexander, former obama deputy campaign manager stephanie cutter and republican strategist al

cardenas. welcome to sunday. it's "meet the press." >> announcer: from nbc news in washington, the longest running show in television history, this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. >> good sunday morning and welcome to the one-year anniversary of the trump presidency. actually it's day two of year two. democrats are calling it the trump shutdown. republicans are calling it the schumer shutdown. whatever you want to call it this is what happens when both sides think they are on the winning side of a political argument. or as the "washington post" dan balz put it this morning, we are here because we have a deal-making chief executive who can't make a deal, a divided republican party struggling to govern and a democratic party tethered to its anti-trump progressive base. democrats want a deal now to protect immigrants who were brought here illegally as children, the so-called d.r.e.a.m.ers, republican leaders are opposed to put a d.r.e.a.m.er deal in a short term spending deal which could

keep the government open. all of this comes as the president hits his one-year anniversary mark and our nbc/"wall street journal" poll shows the president's approval rating is at 39%, the lowest after a year, 57% disapproving. compared to where he was last february at the start of the administration, a little bit better, 44% approving and 48% disapproving. because this president inspires such passion we asked supporters an opponents to describe them in their own words. here are the words supporters were most likely to use, positive, good, excellent, doing what he said he would do. it's very different from the words used by opponents of this president, embarrassing, disaster, chaotic, disappointing and hasn't delivered. changing the way washington works was one of candidate trump's signature campaign themes, but this weekend's shutdown shows that washington is working or not working just as it always has. >> negotiating with president trump is like negotiating with

jell-o. >> one year to the day after president trump took office the federal government should down and the finger-pointing started. >> good morning, and welcome to the trump shutdown. >> this will be called the trump shutdown. >> the trump shutdown is all yours. >> day one of the senate democrats government shutdown. >> what we're calling the schumer shutdown. >> schumer shutdown. >> both parties face political risks. ten senate democrats are on the ballot in states mr. trump won, and they depend on proving they can make government work. four of those democrats and new alabama senator doug jones voted to keep the government open, but for the first time in nearly 40 years the government is shut down while one party controls both houses of congress and the white house, and opponents are quoting citizen trump back to president trump. >> i actually think the president would be blamed. if there is a shutdown, i think it would be a tremendously

negative mark on the president of the united states. >> the problems start from the top, and they have to get solved from the top, and the president's the leader. >> a year after mr. trump took the oath of office promising to be a disrupter and change agent -- >> the forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer. >> the president finds himself in a deep hole. 57% of americans disapprove of the job he's doing, but it's the intensity of the disapproval that's so dramatic. with a majority of americans strongly disapproving, including every age group except americans 50 to 64. mr. trump promised to be the art of the deal president. >> i'm a deal-maker. i believe that i can put both sides together. >> i will negotiate deals that nobody can negotiate like i do. >> but ratings of the president's ability to change washington are down a net 18 points from a year ago. his capacity to get things done down 24 points, and just 19%

give mr. trump high ratings for having the right temperament for the job. >> get that son of a bitch off the field right now, out. he's fired. he's fired! >> a majority of americans also feel negatively about the president as a leader, as commander in chief and as a representative of america abroad. one potential bright spot for republicans, americans are the most satisfied with the economy that they have been in nearly two decades. the president is not getting the credit though, but republican incumbents hope that optimism will protect them in november. >> it's the economy, stupid. did you ever hear that one? it's the economy. >> joining me now is the president's chief congressional negotiator these days marc short. marc, welcome back to "meet the press." you're becoming a very familiar face i think to folks this weekend. >> thanks for having me back, chuck. >> where's the president? i say this because we didn't see him yesterday. didn't make a single public appearance. one thing about candidate trump, as we pointed out there a lot,

he seemed to be the guy who says he was going to make washington work differently. washington looks exactly the way it did before he got into yesterday. why was he yesterday and why wasn't he involved in this? >> the president was involved, he was speaking to leader mcconnell and ryan and leader mccarthy. >> republican, republican, republican, no schumer, no pelosi. >> he met with schumer on friday and that was well publicized and he spoke with secretary nielsen and met with secretary mattis to learn over 100,000 national guardsmen and reservists whose training was cancelled this weekend, who have to get here and pay their travel costs back home so the president is engaged in finding out what are the impacts of this. he's on the find trying to find a resolution to it and he had members over to the white house a week ago in a bipartisan bicameral fashion to get past this impasse. >> part of the issue seems to be that people come away from these meetings not sure what president trump stands for. let me -- here's mitch mcconnell just i think three days ago on

the issue of daca and immigration. >> looking for something that president trump supports, and he's not yet indicated what measure he's willing to sign. as soon as we figure out what he is for, then i would be convinced they would were not just spinning our wheels. chuck schumer used jell-o. that's another way of saying jell-o, is it not? >> as one of my colleagues said it seems a lot of senators know a lot about jell-o but the reality is where we've been in this process is the president put forward his proposal over about 11 months ago, sending it to congress. general kelly went to congress to say here's how we need to solve daca. the daca situation has been unresolved for deng aid and obama took actions into his own hands with an unconstitutional solution to the problem. we asked congress to fix it and send a long list and sent a refined list. we've been absolutely consistent in what it is we're asking for. four criteria, one the d.c.

race, population, border security and ending chain migration and the visa lottery program. i might be a naive optimism and we're making significant progress and we'll get a deal and there are champions like senator durbin who will be hailed as a hero helping for making this happen. here's where we are, democrat are moving foetal alcohol spectrum disorder and saying, yes, we recognize -- >> they are giving you the wall. >> right. >> full funding, 18 billion is what chuck agreed no. >> sometimes what democrats have done they will authorize it without appropriating it. democrats have voted to authorize lotsed of money it a never happens so we need to clarify that but we see progress. on our side they said they want the 670,000 daca population expanded. senator durbin made the case saying many people did not register and they should not be held harmful. we've been willing to expand that population and there's progress which leads us to, chuck, why are we shutting down the government? >> i guess then the

graham/durbin say they put this offer out here hand chuck schumer saying, why not say, okay, seems like we have the parameters for a deal. democrats are willing. you guys are arguing over whether you'll appropriate it or not but seems as if -- chuck schumer what he thought he had an agreement of that the president changed his mind a few hours later. i guess the question i have for you is who is in charge of the president's position on immigration because what -- look at lindsey graham. he calls them tuesday trump versus thursday trump. what's the difference here? >> president trump has been crystal clear on that and he's to the wavered. what lindy graham and senator durbin offered to the president was to say, here, we've narrowed it down to the four areas, when they came over to the white house and presented them they were woefully insufficient inside the four arrows. we narrowed down the broader debate no a smaller one. well feel like we're making progress on the overall discussion and we think we'll get to a solution. what befuddles us is we're not going to pay millions. you're troops or the border agents until what, we don't know

what it is we're asking for. they said give us a shorter cr. tonight senate republicans are going to vote for a three-week cr and democrats are unwilling to give up the vote to keep the government open. >> one of the issues that the democrats have they just don't believe that the oral promise they get from the president will be fulfilled because every time they think they have one, somebody with a stiffer spine on the immigration issue gets to the president. what do you say to that criticism? >> i don't think there's anybody with a stiffer spine than a p.i'll give you a different theory. when you look back over the last year and you see record tax relief, you see supreme court justice confirmed and more justices confirmed at the circuit court level than any year in the american history, repeal of the individual mandate and all the things the administration has done and they are being held captive by a base in their party that's angry and they are responding to that base. this is not about policy, chuck. it's purely about politics. >> do you know the same argument could be said then on the issue of daca which is an 85%, you know, depending on the poll you want to lock at, anywhere from 65% to 80% overall approval

including among trump voters that the president's position on this is being held hostage by a small conservative base. >> we want to solve daca. we recognize these are people aged between 16 and 36 who have work permits. they wouldn't get the work permits unless they had a clean work record and they are product i have to society. we want to solve that and not on a different page of that. >> you're taking a very conciliatory tone this morning. want to play an ad that you guys unveiled last night. >> i wish i could have called more [ bleep ] of those mother [ bleep ]. >> build a wall, stop i'll legal imgranges. democrats who stand in our way will will be complicit in every murder completed by illegal immigrants. >> tell me how that happens negotiations today. you're calling democrats accomplices to potential murderers. >> you know that ad is pronounced by an outside grouped. >> donald j. trump for president

is an outside group. >> it's not done -- done from a political organization, not people working inside the white house, but let me talk about the basis of that ad. today what we have is over 2,500 people on a terror watch list trying to get into our country each and every day. each and -- each year. that's about seven per day, chuck, being apprehended or turned away. we want to solve the problem of immigration coming in, and the threat that it potions to our country. i think that's a natural debate we should be happening. we shouldn't just say let's do this at some other point in time. >> if you want to solve this problem, is that the way to treat political opponents here? let me ask you this. is that ad helpful to you today? >> i think it's hadful to continue to raise awareness -- >> the tone of that ad -- you find the tone of that ad hopeful. >> it continues to remind people -- >> data, not tone. >> is the tone wrong? >> the data of the ad shows there are people coming across our border that pose threats to our country, yes. >> all right. marc short, i have to leave it there, and we've got you. we've got dick durbin and tom cotton.

after the show is over will you solve this. >> i hope so. as many people have pointed out republicans who were all for a shutdown when president obama was in office are opposed to one now, but democrats, too, have had a change of heart. here's what three prominent democrats sounded like in 2013 when republicans were threatening to shut down the government over healthcare. >> you do not use the threat of shutting down government to try to advance your policy agenda. that's just not the way it works. >> you can say we're shutting down the government. we're not going to raise the debt ceiling until you pass immigration reform. it would be governmental chaos. >> but if we're talking about competency and accountability and i have a question for the republicans. we just went through a government shutdown of your creation. who is going to be held accountable for that? >> well, joining me now is one of those democrats you just heard, from the number two democrat in the united states senate. it's dick durbin of illinois. senator durbin, welcome back to "meet the press." >> it's good to be here. >> i know you guys are hopefully going to go solve this problem

after the show is over, but let me ask you this. why -- why draw the line in the sand now? it seems like to the average american you guys are fighting over how long the window of negotiation on immigration should be. one month or five days. the two weeks or three weeks. do you see how to the average american they are not quite sure why this is the line in the sand versus say a month from now? >> let me tell you the average american feels frustration that we haven't solved the problem and many problems that we face here in washington, but let's put it in context, chuck. you understand the republicans control the white house. the republicans control the senate. the house of representatives and through their nominees even the u.s. supreme court. what we're trying to do is find a solution to a shutdown which we believe is a trump shutdown. you've heard it over and over. you played it early in your broadcast here, but the reason is pretty clear. when the president said on january 9th, and i was sitting right next to leer you send me a bill to solve the problem that he created on daca, i'll sign

it. i'll take the political heat. within 48 hours lindy graham, republican of south carolina and i presented that bill to him, he rejected it out of hand. this last friday when chuck schumer was invited to the white house, he sat down with the president over lunch. there were two other people in the room. they hammered out an agreement where chuck schumer made major concessions on one of the major issues, the president's wall. within two hours the white house called and said that deal is off. so if you wonder what kind of shutdown it is and who is to blame the president in both instances could have stepped forward to show leadership. >> why the sense of urgency now versus three weeks? >> nobody likes the situation we're in, but explain to me why you -- frankly why not draw this line in the sand in three weeks? >> this is the fourth cr this fiscal year. for those who are not following the insides of washington politics, it means a failure to pass a budget for the united states of america. this has to come to an end as well. there are people, even five republicans works voted against

the -- the cloture on the continuing resolution because they are sick of the continuing resolutions. you say why don't we wait another three weeks, four weeks, it has to come to an end, and it will if and when the president shows the leadership that we expect of him as president. >> i want to get some clarity on durbin/graham, graham/durbin. we'll call it durbin/graham because you're here. you say you handled all of this, all of the assets the president has but i want to get to chain migration and family myration. the real dispute does it apply just to the daca population or does it apply to all immigration overall? are you at all open to having larger changes to theism gracious law in the daca negotiations? >> the president made it clear on the january 9th meeting, he agreed with us there should be two fadeses. let's deal with the problem which he created on september 5th by eliminating daca,

deadline march 5th. just a few weeks ago. let's sol that have problem now and not all the problems of immigration, and, yes, we did include a provision related to family reunification which breaks my heart. >> only applying to this population. >> that's right. >> they say it should apply entire immigration system. >> and senator cotton wants to reduce legal immigration into the united states. i'm not one of those people. my mother was an immigrant to this country and i'm very proud to be serving in the senate under those circumstances, but what it comes down to this is this. lindy graham and i accepted the president's challenge, produced the bill he asked for. gave it to him 48 hours later, and the infamous white house meeting took place. >> let me ask you about that white house meeting. you've said you've not leaked the contents of that meeting. >> that's true. >> you amplified it though. why did you do that? >> because the president denied it happened. i was in chicago. i woke up the next morning. the story was in "the washington post" the night before and the president tweet it had didn't happen, and it did happen, chuck. >> i -- i -- i ask this because

i played that ad that the trump campaign is playing. it's accusing democrats of being accomplices to crimes, to murders for some reason. not helpful to a negotiation obviously to do name-calling. this became personal for many of you, not helpful to this. do you regret that that became public? >> i'm sorry that it was said. i'm sorry that the president denied it, but for the longest time we've heard that the driving force of the president's position on immigration is safety and terrorism. marc short said the same thing earlier. what we heard in the thursday meeting was much different. it really reflected something that i hope we'll not continue to subscribe to in this country. we're a nation of immigrants. that's part of our values. we want to keep america safe. that's our first priority, but let us not turn immigrants into criminals. let us not deport the d.r.e.a.m.ers. >> all right. what deal will you take to reopen the government? you accept the idea that you can't actually vote on the daca

bill as part of reopening the government. obviously it's my understanding you'll accept reopening the government as long as there's a separate commitment to vote on daca but give me what you'll accept. >> there's two possibilities, up is that the president steps up as he said in the january 1th meeting and says i embrace the following approach to dealing with daca and the d.r.e.a.m. yergsorers. congress has met the challenge and here's what i'll stand by and we can include it and pass it quickly. the alternative is to have competing ideas. senator cotton and i have dramatically different ideas, competing ideas on the floor of the senate and then, this is critical, and then are brought up in the house. remember when we passed comprehensive immigration reform in the senate with an overwhelming bipartisan roll call and speaker boehner and the republicans refused to even consider it. >> you want stand-alone bills voted on in the senate, but it's my understanding that you don't want the house to vote on a stand-alone. >> no. the point we're getting to is we need clear assurance if we can pass a comprehensive or a bill in the senate that it will be

taken up in the house and won't be ignored. the march 5th trump deadline on daca is looming, and we want to solve this problem long before. >> all right. i want to end with where we started. why was february 16th a non-starter for this but january 321st was okay? i don't understand the difference. what's the difference between 14 days here. >> the dynamic here, we called for a one-day extension, a three-day extension to put a looming deadline on this negotiation and bring this shutdown, this trump shutdown to an end as quickly as possible. now the republicans have come in instead of four weeks we'll take three weeks. what's -- what we need to have is a basic agreement on what we'll do in those three weeks, not just a calendar date. >> all right. senator dick durbin, i have to leave it there. honest life doesn't sound like we're very close, are we? >> i'm more positive. i really think there's conversations at every level, democrats and republicans. >> you think the government reopens before the end of business on monday? >> i won't make that prediction. i'm confident -- >> let me ask you this.

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