>> announcer: from 30 rockefeller plaza in new york, it's "late night with seth meyers." tonight -- sarah jessica parker, from nbc's "good girls," actress mae whitman, from "black card revoked," actor and comedian tony rock, featuring the 8g band with jim reilly. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] ladies and gentlemen, seth meyers. >> seth: good evening. i'm seth meyers. this is "late night." how is everybody doing tonight? [ cheers and applause ] great to hear. in that case let's get to the news. white house communications director hope hicks announced today that she is resigning from her position. which is weird, because i thought hope left the white house a year ago. [ light laughter ] [ cheers and applause ]

all the hopes are leaving. [ light laughter ] according to the "new york times," white house communications director hope hicks told the white house intelligence committee yesterday she has occasionally had to tell white lies. white lies, or as melania calls them, vows. [ laughter and applause ] in a new interview, oprah said that she won't run for president until she gets a sign from god. said god, "was this one not clear enough?" [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] following the recent events in florida, dick's sporting goods has announced that it will stop selling assault style weapons. well, that's really cool. [ cheers and applause ] that's very, very cool. dick's did what dicks won't. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ]

according to reports, the nobel institute is investigating a possibly fake nomination of president trump for the nobel peace prize. let me save you some time. it's fake. [ laughter and applause ] the only thing that could be more fake is if he got the nobel prize for chemistry. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] the democratic national committee announced today that it plans to contact 50 million voters ahead of november's midterm elections. and not, as my inbox would suggest, one voter 50 million times. [ light laughter ] donald trump, jr. reported for jury duty today here in new york. and out of habit, he opened with "not guilty." [ laughter and applause ] "oh, i'm for the jury. i'm for the jury. okay, okay." [ light laughter ] and finally, a virginia set of

identical twin sisters will marry a set of identical twin brothers in a joint wedding this summer. they are registered at kinko's. [ laughter and applause ] ladies and gentlemen, we have a great show for you tonight. [ cheers and applause ] fantastic show tonight. she is the star of "divorce" on hbo. sarah jessica parker, one of your favorites is back. [ cheers and applause ] she is a fantastic actress who is starring in a great new show on nbc, "good girls." mae whitman joins us tonight. [ cheers and applause ] and a wonderful comedian you can check out on b.e.t.'s "black card revoked," tony rock, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] the movie "black panther" is breaking box office records. here with a review is one of our writers, amber ruffin. give it up for amber, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] >> yes! yay! hey. hello, seth. >> seth: so amber, i know you were very excited.

did you like the movie "black panther"? >> hated it. >> seth: wow. i'm shocked. why? >> because i was in the movie and they cut my scene. >> seth: you were in "black panther"? >> seth, i was in "black panther." don't believe me? >> seth: i don't. >> take a look. >> klaw has escaped out pursuits for almost 30 years. not capturing him is perhaps my father's greatest regret. i wish to bring klaw back here to stand trial. >> sorry i'm late. my rhinoceros got towed. >> wakanda does not need a warrior right now. >> she's right. wakanda needs a water park. it's so hot. [ light laughter ] >> my parents were killed when he attacked. >> this guy, always with the dead parents. >> not a day goes by when i don't think about what klaw took from us. from me. >> not a day goes by where he doesn't mention it. [ light laughter ] >> it's too great an opportunity

to pass. >> are we still talking about my water park idea? oh please, it would be so splashy. >> take me with you. we'll take him down together side by side. >> great. and i'll protect the border. >> i need you here protecting the border. [ light laughter ] >> then i ask, you kill him where he stands. or you bring him back to us. >> you have my word. i will bring him back. >> and could you also bring back, only if you have time, one of those big toblerones from the airport? i don't care what flavor. as long as there's a big piece of chocolate. do you know what i mean? [ light laughter ] is that the end of the meeting? guys this could have been e-mailed. wakanda forever. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: it doesn't strike me as that was the worst cut. but i'm shocked you didn't like the movie. >> i know, i didn't.

that's why i have only seen it four times. wakanda forever. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: give it up for amber ruffin, everybody. in the last 24 hours, multiple high level trump white house officials have come under scrutiny as the president meets with lawmakers to address the national crisis over gun violence. for more on this it's time for "a closer look." ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: if there is one place that definitely needs gun control, it's the white house, where every day it seems like someone else shoots themselves in the foot. [ light laughter ] just this afternoon white house communications director hope hicks resigned after admitting to testimony she's told white lies for the president. and before that, secretary of housing and urban development, dr. ben carson, made his way back into the headlines with a scandal about furniture. >> house and urban development secretary ben carson is under fire over the reported purchase of lavish items for his office.

according to the "new york times" the agency spent $31,000 late last year to buy a custom hardwood table, chairs, and a hutch for carson's office. >> seth: hey, the man loves furniture. [ light laughter ] based on his personality he's probably been mistaken for furniture. [ laughter and applause ] so ben carson -- [ applause ] so ben carson spent $30,000 on a table. and according to the "new york times" federal law requires congressional approval to furnish or redecorate the office of a department head if the cost exceeds $5,000. but carson did not seek that approval. and in fact, a senior hud official has said she was demoted last year for refusing carson's request for an expensive chair. helen foster was hud's chief administration officer at the time. said she was told $5,000 will not even buy a decent chair. [ light laughter ] well, ben carson is a man of excellent taste. just consider this actual painting that hangs in his home. [ audience ohs ] [ light laughter ]

that's a real painting of ben carson with, i'm gonna say his karate teacher? [ light laughter ] also, $5,000 for a chair? was it a dentist's chair? [ light laughter ] although that would make sense. as ben carson always seems like a guy who is waiting for the nitrous to wear off. [ light laughter ] the fact that carson has apparently spent so much time haggling over expensive furniture might explain why he apparently doesn't know basic facts about the actual duties of his job. as we found out in october, when he was grilled on the trump administration's proposed cuts to the hud budget and seemed totally and completely lost. >> sir, you have indicated that there will be substantial cuts to the budget that hud has. how much from housing vouchers, mr. carson? >> um, rather than go through a quiz on the numbers -- >> it's not a quiz, mr. carson. how much from housing vouchers? >> again, you know, i can give you that number. >> well, if you would give it to

me i would greatly appreciate it. [ light laughter ] and if you want a moment to ask someone behind you i would gladly accord you that moment. >> i don't want to open the book and look at the numbers. [ light laughter ] >> how much from community development block grants, mr. secretary? >> again, i'm not willing to sit there and -- >> so you don't know how much from community development block grants? >> i'm not going through the list this much, this much, this much. i think that -- >> i will move on, mr. carson. i accept your lack of knowledge. >> seth: damn. [ cheers and applause ] i mean "i accept your lack of knowledge" is a high class burn. [ light laughter ] that's like something data would say to riker to feel weird for the rest of the mission. [ light laughter ] most people would be offended by a line like that. but ben carson's just gonna go back to his office chair, huff on some nitrous oxide and forget it ever happened. [ light laughter ] it's also especially tough to stomach such lavish spending from a politician who spent

years issuing dire warnings about wasteful spending and government debt. not only was cutting spending a cornerstone of carson's presidential campaign, but five years ago, he railed against government spending in an infamous speech at the national prayer breakfast that kick started his political career. although as usual, it was pretty weird. >> our deficit is a big problem. think about it. [ applause ] and our national debt -- 16 and a half trillion dollars. you think that's not a lot of money? tell you what. count one number per second which you can't even do. 'cause once you get to a thousand, you can't -- takes longer than a second. but one number per second. you know how long it would take to count to 16 trillion? 507,000 years, more than a half million years to get there. we have to deal with this. >> seth: i mean -- [ light laughter ] just wrap your heads around that, guys. but carson is not the only high

level official mired in scandal at the moment. there is also the president's son-in-law and senior adviser jared kushner, who on friday was stripped, of his high level security clearance. kushner had access to the nation's most guarded secrets through a temporary clearance. and yesterday we learned more about kushner's conflicts of interest and how other countries may have sought to use those conflicts against him. >> officials in at least four countries have privately discussed ways they can manipulate jared kushner, the president's son-in-law and senior adviser, by taking advantage of his complex business arrangements, financial difficulties and lack of foreign policy experience. the post goes on to say "white house officials were, quote, concerned that kushner was naive and being tricked in conversations with foreign officials." >> seth: that's right. they were worried kushner was naive and being tricked. apparently they were concerned after a bunch of diplomats asked him to join a global trade organization called the "pen 15 club." [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ]

it's a very exclusive club. and while more and more of trump's aids come under legal and ethical scrutiny, he's also struggling to deal with the nation's epidemic of gun violence. today, trump made a show of inviting a bipartisan group of lawmakers to the white house for a discussion on school safety and gun reform. as we have seen before during these kinds of discussions, like for example on immigration, he was all over the place. for example, trump proposed what he called hardening schools, but then cautioned that hardening schools could also potentially backfire, offering a very weird example. >> first we must harden our schools against attack. certain ideas sound good but they're not good. you know, you can harden a site to a level that nobody can get in. the problem is if, the shooter is inside -- if he gets in the door and closes the door, we can't get people in. it's going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars all over the country and we'll have nice hard sites. the door closes and now we can't get in.

have to send a tractor through the walls. >> seth: a tractor through the wall. [ light laughter ] trump talks less like he's in a white house meeting and more like he's at a rewrite table for a new "die hard" movie. [ laughter and applause ] "what if the bad guy locks the door, right? and now the cops are all, we can't get in, we're screwed, right? [ light laughter ] but then mcclane says, "hold on, i have an idea." [ laughter ] right? and he gets a tractor. [ light laughter ] right? and he says, yipee-ki-yay-mother-tractor." [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: you know, aside from rambling again about his ludicrous idea to arm teachers, trump went around the room and basically expressed some level of support for most of the ideas that were floated. and at one point, he asked if they could be rolled into one bill that's comprehensive. a word he kept repeating.

>> so, let me just ask this. chris and john, are you better off having a one-off bill or can you merge it into joe and pat's bill? because i like that much better. having a comprehensive bill. some people don't like the word comprehensive when they talk. i like the word comprehensive. you know, they say, "oh, that's a bad word. because it represents things." i mean, to me, i like the word comprehensive. [ light laughter ] >> seth: is this the first time he's heard the word comprehensive? [ laughter ] he sounds like a kid in a spelling bee who's stalling for time. [ light laughter ] "comprehensive. what a great word. i love comprehensive. [ light laughter ] and i'm going to spell it for you. i am. [ light laughter ] comprehensive." [ light laughter ] but here's the thing we've been through -- this with trump before. in january, trump held a similar bipartisan meeting on immigration where he said he would support a compromise and then completely changed his mind. and that's because trump changes his mind based on the last person he's spoken with. if trump had been at that ben carson speech in 2013, he would have spent the rest of the day trying to count to 16 trillion.

[ laughter and applause ] and because of that, because of that -- [ cheers and applause ] one, two, three. i'm gonna be late for dinner. four. [ laughter ] and because of that, gun reform activists in the never again movement know they can't just sit by and wait for trump to act. which is why they are taking action on their own coordinating an nra boycott that has led companies like delta to stop offering discounts to nra members. which of course, is not sitting well with some republicans. georgia republican michael williams is one of many in the state threatening to revoke a tax break for delta over its decision to sever ties with the nra. williams went on cnn yesterday to falsely claim that liberal groups like planned parenthood still get discounts from companies like delta. which left cnn anchor brianna keilar completely bewildered. >> if they are going to pull the discount for nra members, why not pull it for planned parenthood or some of the left organizations out there? >> well -- wait, wait, wait. where is the discount dealt?

you're saying -- where are you getting that? that delta gives a discount to planned parenthood members? >> other senators, as well as myself, we looked it up on google. [ laughter ] >> it doesn't appear after some digging that we have been able to determine that that is actually factual. >> it is correct. you're telling me delta is not giving away a discount to left wing organizations? is that what you are telling me? >> no. you told me it was planned parenthood. [ laughter ] >> i know. >> i'm just talking to you about what you said to me. >> is that not a left wing organization? >> no, but that's -- the point is -- >> that's a very left leaning organization. >> they're not -- there is no indication they are giving discounts to that organization is my point. >> again, i guess agree to disagree. >> seth: no! [ audience ohs ] [ laughter ] you don't get to agree to disagree with facts. the answer to two plus two isn't your word against mine. [ light laughter ] i'm sorry, but someone that dumb does not deserve to be on cnn. if anything, he should be forced to talk to ben carson. [ light laughter ] >> you're telling me delta is not going -- is not giving away discounts to left wing organizations? is that what you are telling me? >> um, rather than go through a

quiz and all the numbers -- [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> other senators, as well as myself, we have looked it up on google. >> i don't want to open the book and look at the numbers. >> again, let's agree to disagree. [ laughter ] >> seth: so we have an administration whose senior members are mired in scandal, a republican threatening companies that don't give discounts to the nra and a president who in the midst of a national epidemic of gun violence can't decide where he stands. maybe we'll eventually get to a better place in this country. but if trump and the gop get their way it will take us -- >> more than a half a million years to get there. [ laughter and applause ] >> seth: this has been "a closer look." [ cheers and applause ] ♪ we'll be right back with sarah jessica parker! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> for more of seth's "closer looks," be sure to subscribe to "late night" on youtube. ♪ join t-mobile and the whole family can stay connected with new iphones. which is great... ...unless your parents thought you were studying.

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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back. give it up for the 8g band right over there. [ cheers and applause ] also sitting in on drums with us tonight. he's the band leader from multi platinum country group rascal flatts, whose latest album "back to us" is available now. for tour dates and more check out rascalflatts.com. jim reilly is here everybody. [ cheers and applause ] >> thanks, seth. >> seth: our first guest is an emmy award winning actress you know and love from "sex and the city." she is currently producing and starring in hbo's "divorce" which will air its second season finale this sunday. let's take a look.

>> i was so sad francis. my only friend that night with the bottle. >> i mean, that's a -- that's a little dramatic. i'm your friend, diane. i promise you. i'm still your friend. and if you want to give that check back to me, that is completely okay. i just don't want it to screw up our relationship. >> i can't because i may have accidentally flushed it down the toilet of some dive bar in peekskill. >> okay then. >> but i accept your apology. >> seth: please welcome back to the show sarah jessica parker, everyone. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ >> seth: welcome back. >> hello. thank you. thanks for having me. >> seth: it's been a while. four years ago you were here. you were on -- you and anna wintour came on together. >> yes, we usually make all of our appearances together. >> seth: yes, it's so strange to see you --

>> weird to be here without her. >> seth: yeah, exactly. when you see sarah you just expect anna wintour to be right next to her. >> we vacation together. >> seth: of course. she's a very fun person to spend time with. >> she is. she's lovely. >> seth: you posted something on instagram i want to ask you about. now for those who don't know, everyone who comes on this show -- >> what instagram is. >> seth: for instagram it's a way -- >> it's a neat -- it's a sort of -- hard to explain. but if there is a picture you like and you'd like other people to see it and maybe they are people you know -- >> seth: sure. >> or people you don't know. it's a way of communicating. >> seth: yes. >> it's a way -- >> seth: you now you used to have to bring slides over to your friends' house. >> exactly. [ laughter ] and this way it sounds crazy. i know it's hard to believe, but you just send it. >> seth: you send it. >> it's the weirdest thing. and at least a hundred people, maybe more could see -- >> seth: it's crazy. >> what's happening in your home. >> seth: and i was one of those hundred on something you recently posted. >> oh, you were? thank you. >> seth: you posted a video of

your mugs. >> i don't know why. >> seth: now most people would -- but i was drawn to this. because -- >> it was a slow news day, much like today. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] i know, that's the thing. remember when things were so crazy that we didn't have time to take videos of our mugs? >> oh. >> seth: but you posted your video and as a guest on the show everyone gets a mug. you get a mug. >> yes, yes. >> seth: your husband's been on the show three times. >> yes. >> seth: i was very happy. if we look at this mug video you will see 'tonight show" -- you got a "tonight show" mug. >> like a mug shot. >> seth: yeah! but let's take a look, 'cause there's a couple "late night" mugs there. sorry, there we go. there's -- we're coming up on -- i think that's -- >> stuff from moscow. >> seth: "tonight show" right there. look! >> yes. >> seth: there's a -- right there there's "late night." right in the front right. right down there. and there's another one. >> i think -- >> seth: so two. >> yes. >> seth: okay, so i want to make sure that the mugs stay in rotation, so i personalized a mug for you. >> oh, my god. >> seth: so that's us on the show together. [ audience awes ] and then here's the date of your two appearances. [ cheers and applause ] >> oh, my god! well, that's -- >> seth: are you crying? oh, my god. i didn't think you'd cry.

>> that's like one of the most sentimental things that anyone has ever done for me. [ laughter ] >> seth: oh, my god. that's so weird. >> hold on a second. hold on a second. just talk amongst yourselves. now that's very charming and dear. >> seth: 'cause you know for my anniversary i got my wife a mug and she was not happy. [ laughter ] >> well, was it like this? >> seth: it was the you and me mug, yeah. >> i understand. details, details. well, thank you. this is -- i will have many memorable -- >> seth: drink, coffees? >> libations. libations. >> seth: do you drink a libation in a coffee mug? >> i will now. i will now. and i think a lot of america, maybe even a hundred of those who caught -- maybe i'll be posting this to my -- >> seth: i hope so. >> hundred or more followers. >> seth: on the next slow news day this better be highly featured. >> please god, give us a slow news day, i beg you. >> seth: so now i wanna congratulate you on the show "divorce." >> thank you. >> seth: you have a fantastic co-star, thomas haden church, who is a wonderful actor. >> yes, yes. >> seth: very funny. >> i love him. >> seth: and i'm assuming when you signed on to the show you were like, "oh, this is so

great. i get to work with thomas haden church." >> he was my first choice. >> seth: which is great, but now, because the shows about a divorce you barely have any scenes together. >> yes, i should have chosen someone i don't -- i should have wanted someone i don't care for. >> seth: right. >> because if i had just thought about the title for a moment it might have occurred to me that you won't be spending a good amount of time with him. >> seth: yeah, 'cause it's not like it was a crazy twist when you had a divorce. [ laughter ] >> it's a cliffhanger. no, i really like him. it's -- it is -- it is sort of upsetting that i'm now not with him as much although i am with molly, who is -- >> seth: yeah, in the clip we saw molly shannon. the best, the funniest person maybe on earth. >> she's funny but -- i mean, she's brilliantly funny. as i've said before she's a gift to america. >> seth: yes. >> american entertainment, comedy. she's an american gift. that's a -- comprehensive -- [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: not bad. it was very good.

>> because i'm smart, strong, not a puppet. >> seth: that was very good. >> i can't do it now. i do it so well at home. >> seth: after a couple of these? >> yeah. but molly shannon, back to molly shannon. she's fantastic, but she's also -- you know. she's just such a good person. >> seth: she really is. >> she's like a very deep feeling, curious -- you know when you talk to her and everything is important? you know how she describes everything with her hands and she's like, i know, but when i dropped the kids off and another mother is like running towards me and i don't want to see her because i've just woken up and i feel like -- you know how she's so invested in every word? >> seth: she's doing charades and talking. >> it's the best! and she's such good company and she's such a good friend to women. >> seth: yeah. >> you know, she's like really the sister -- i'm just incredibly fond of her. i mean, talia balsam, tracy letts, there's a whole host of upper classmen that i'm digging.

>> seth: it is a fantastic cast. >> it is. it's amazing. >> seth: this is really exciting to me as well. you have a -- would you say it's a book imprint? what would you say? >> i would say it's a book imprint. >> seth: it's a book imprint. okay, i am not as literary. so you have a book in print with a publisher where you're basically helping find new authors? >> yeah. i mean, it's an imprint inside an old imprint called "hogarth." which was an imprint started by virginia wolf and her husband. and it had a really sort of illustrious history. and they published their friends and they actually made the books. it was an amazing and very admirable endeavor and then it sort of went through a fallow period. and then a few years ago molly stern, who is a publisher i work with kind of in partner with someone in the uk, they sort of revived it. and i love "hogarth" and through a very long series -- we don't have time, but maybe i will tell you the story tonight on instagram. [ laughter ] anyway, i'm a reader. >> seth: you are! >> i'm a reader and they said to me, would you like -- would you consider?

and i was, you know, no, i can't possibly. but then i sort of was brought through the process and i knew that i would be surrounded by smart, you know, line editors. and so i -- yes, i pore over manuscripts. >> seth: this is interesting. yeah, so that's the part, you know, i would say i'm a reader, too. but i'm obviously reading books. and i'm not -- as i'm reading them i'm not thinking, should this be a book? it's already a book. >> yeah, it's a book. >> seth: so, i don't have to spend any of time also thinking -- >> it's a complete different way of reading. >> seth: yeah! >> and it's as pleasurable -- >> seth: it is okay. >> it's just a different -- all sorts of other considerations come in to the process. and it's enormously, you know, it's a privilege and it's terrifying. but it's thrilling to find a new -- a new voice. and it's in this tiny space. it's literary fiction. it's not tiny, it's just literary fiction is a very sort of special place in fiction. and so our first book is being published in june by a young woman who is 26. her name is fatima farheen mirza and the book is called "a place for us." and it's an amazing, important debut novel. and it's a thrill. >> seth: it's exciting that you're doing that.

>> and for a reader it's heaven on earth. >> seth: well, that's fantastic. thank you so much for being here. >> oh, my gosh. my pleasure. thank you. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: and there will always be a mug for you any time you come. sarah jessica parker, everybody. the season finale of "divorce" airs this sunday at 10pm on hbo. we'll be right back with mae whitman. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ [ joe cocker "with a little help from my friends" ] ♪ lend me your ears and i'll sing you a song ♪ ♪ i will try not to sing out of key ♪ ♪ oh baby i get by with a little help from my friends ♪ ♪ all i need is my buddies vw drivers have always put others first. now we're returning the favor, with the people first warranty, america's best bumper to bumper limited warranty. 6 years or 72 thousand miles transferable coverage. however, q4 does have... hitting the mid-morning wall? loaded with premium ingredients,

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[ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> seth: our next guest is a talented actress you know from the hit show "parenthood." she stars in the new series "good girls," which airs monday nights at 10:00 here on nbc. let's take a look. >> we cannot run. we have families. >> right. china. >> earthquakes. >> that's your big issue with china? >> you have a better problem with china? >> language barrier, human rights violations, communistic rule. >> we are staying here and we are facing this. >> air pollution. swine flu. i mean -- >> they don't have indian food. i need to go someplace where they have indian food. >> india? >> god, no. [ laughter ] >> seth: please welcome back to the show mae whitman, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪

>> seth: so lovely to see you. >> so lovely to see you. >> seth: for those who couldn't tell from the clip you are three women. this is -- you are committers of crimes. >> that's true. yes, it is. we did commit a crime in the pilot episode. we will continue to do bad things. >> seth: yeah. >> it happens. >> seth: and it's really fun. it's a super funny show. >> thanks. >> seth: fantastic cast. you, retta, and christina hendricks. were you immediately -- did it become clear to you were working with great people right away? >> oh, yeah. right away. i mean, the whole concept is, you know, these women grew up together and they all kind of get backed into these financial situations that are really desperate. and it's kind of desperate times call for desperate measures. but, i think, one of the really important elements is that we really believe that they're all really close friends. and so we actually ended up having a producers' dinner the first time we all three, kind of, hung out together. and it was very formal. we had a nice cocktail and then we sort of were like the

producers went home and we were like, mae should we have a nice dinner? sure. so we went to dinner and had about seven bottles of wine. then we were like, should we keep having a nice time? and we went to christina's house. and all i know is somewhere around the 3:00 mark i believe i was like, i'll be right back. i'm going to go to the restroom. and christina -- apparently, i just never came back. and like an hour later -- [ laughter ] like an hour later christina went looking for me and said her front door was ajar and my pants were splayed out on her dining room table. and she like wandered into the street and was like, mae? like with my pants thinking i just wandered into the ocean with no pants. but i just stole some of her sweatpants and went home. >> seth: wow. >> yeah. [ laughter ] pretty classy stuff. >> seth: that's classy. >> that's me, guys. >> seth: there you go. >> invite me over. >> seth: that seems like a real rookie move, but you've been doing this a long time. >> i did it on purpose, okay? my character is irresponsible. i was trying to generate a relationship. >> seth: you were deep in character. >> that's right. i would never do that in real life, seth. >> seth: of course. >> you know me. >> seth: well, you're very -- well, you have been doing this

since you were 3 years old. >> it's true, yeah. >> seth: you've been in the business. and you had parents who were very -- wanted to make sure you were ready for this. >> yes, pat and jeff. they are extremely good care takers. they really wanted to prepare me and actually they may have prepared me a little too much. there is a classic story that, you know, on a movie set everybody curses like sailors. like, it is the most intense place to be. >> seth: sure. >> and so they said, okay, we're gonna sit her down. and they said, "now listen, mae, you are going to hear a lot of words. and we want to tell you what they are and we're gonna tell you exactly what they mean, but you must never, ever use them." and they, you know, gave me the whole spiel. the meanings, the words, all of them. and so apparently a couple days later they got a call from my next door neighbor who i was best friends with their kid at the time. and they -- the mom said, "come on over and see what's happening here." and they peeked over the fence and i was sitting in the pool and i was going, now here are the words. this is what they mean but you must never, ever use them. to like this like four-year-old and her two-year-old brother. so yeah, you know, my best work. >> seth: very helpful.

>> full disclosure. >> seth: so, sarah jessica parker was just here. >> i know. >> seth: you are obsessed with her, but kind of recently. >> cool it. she's probably still in the dressing room, seth! >> seth: she probably still is, yeah. yeah, she's probably taking your mug right now. >> oh, she probably is. she can have it. she can have anything. i've got a wallet. take the cash. whatever you need, sjp. >> seth: but this is -- you -- "sex and the city," this is -- >> yeah. i tend to come into things a little too late. because whenever i start, like, a new show or something it really means a lot to me. and i get so invested it's hard for me to do anything else. so i just started "sex and the city" like literally like a month ago. retta was making so much fun of me, 'cause i'd walk into set and be like, "oh, my god, carrie cheated on aiden! can you believe? " and she was like, "yeah, 20 years ago. it's pretty wild to go through that." it's really sad. [ applause ] i know. i'm trying. i'm trying. >> seth: do you just do it for everything not just that show? come in and be like, "lewinsky, have you heard?" >> guys, it's crazy. you don't understand.

i really -- the one other area that i really struggled in was the "hamilton" train. it took me for freaking ever to get on it. and retta was like so annoyed with me. i mean, literally the only thing i knew from "hamilton" was when the "hamilton" challenge came up, lauren graham, who's still like my best friend in the world. we actually went hiking in the mountains and afterwards she was like, we're doing the challenge. and she taught me one song. so that's, like, all i had to relate to people at parties. i was like, oh, i know. when she goes -- ♪ a toast to the groom and like does the whole thing i was like, ah that's crazy, right? i've gotta go though. i'm gonna run out. but retta when she heard about this she totally flipped out and she was like, we're going this trip. so i went last night for the first time! >> seth: all right. [ cheers and applause ] >> thank you. it's so exciting. >> seth: i'm always worried that people who wait too long, they'll hear so much about "hamilton" that they will be underwhelmed. but that does not seem like -- >> i couldn't believe it. first of all, something really humbling happened when i was coming back in where i got there a little late and i have like really nightmarish peeing problem where it's like every five minutes. well, now i have to pee. i'm not enjoying the show. so like i go like right before the show starts.

and when i came back in -- also the show, "good girls" had just premiered the night before. and when i came back in people kind of started to look in my direction and they were like, oh, kind of excited, taking out their cameras. and i was like, you guys, please. it's really not a big deal. and then literally the three people in front of me turned around and it was like these three beautiful blonde people. and it was the gold medal olympians from the cross country skiing team. [ laughter ] and literally everybody's like, get out of the way, excuse me, like pushing me aside. and i was like, oh, okay, yes, i mean, it's amazing. so that was pretty cool. and yeah, i mean, my mind was blown. it's the most amazing thing i've ever -- >> seth: i just want to point out how kind retta is that she would take you to that show after you made this observation on instagram. you put a picture of retta next to a picture of the rock and you said when your costar shows up to work looking like the rock. and i gotta say it's a pretty fair -- >> i mean, you guys. [ laughter and applause ] you guys -- it's the exact -- >> seth: it's the exact same outfit. >> it's literally the exact same outfit. >> seth: you added the fanny pack. >> what do you mean? that is a real fanny pack, seth. i would never do something like that.

>> seth: hey, congrats on the show. it's always so great to see you. mae whitman, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] "good girls" airs mondays at 10pm here on nbc. we'll be right back with more "late night." thank you so much. ♪ oh, sorry i'm late, sir. i had a doctor's appointment. when you said you were at the doctor, but your shirt says you were at a steakhouse... that's when you know it's half-washed. now from downy fabric conditioner comes downy odor protect with 24-hour odor protection. downy's powerful formula conditions fibers to lock out odors all day. hey, your shirt's making me hungry. ha ha, derek. downy and it's done.

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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: our next guest, a very funny comedian, hosts the game show "black card revoked" which airs thursday nights on bet. let's take a look. >> which celeb has the best thigh to butt ratio in the biz? >> oh god, here we go. >> serena williams. j-lo. nicki minaj. kenya moore. >> who is kenya moore? >> she -- i know -- wasn't she ms. america at one point? i look at her is every week on "housewives," and it is hanging a little too much. >> some ain't where they need to be. right. i'm trying to think her -- >> seth: please welcome to the show tony rock, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪

[ cheers and applause ] >> thanks for having me, man. it's exciting. it's very exciting. >> seth: so you have -- how many siblings do you have total? >> i have nine siblings. >> seth: nine siblings. >> charles, chris, andre, tony, derek, brian, kenny, kwan, andi, jordan. >> seth: that's fantastic. well done. >> yes. well, my parents did it. >> seth: yeah, that's true. but one of your brother's chris rock who obviously we all know. your brother jordan is also a comedian. >> yes, jordan's super funny, my favorite comedian right now. >> seth: are you close with all of your siblings. >> no, no, no i'm not, no. >> seth: okay, why is that? >> because there's nine of us. nobody has nine best friends. >> seth: yeah, that's true. >> there's like two or three that i really love. the rest is like, "hey, where's my money?" [ laughter ] yeah, brian is very close to me. my brother brian, two under me, very close. we're very tight. >> seth: gotcha. everyone funny, though? >> everybody is super funny. super funny, yes. everybody could be a standup comedian. >> seth: that's great. just some of them were smart enough to go into human lives. >> some were like, "i'm going to drive trucks, i'll rather not do standup." [ laughter ] >> seth: so "black card revoked," we just saw the clip there. this is -- you ask questions to -- what would you say, test people's blackness?

is that -- >> there's some things that are considered fundamentally black. >> seth: okay. >> sweet potato pie, we just took ownership of that. >> seth: yeah, okay. gotcha. >> fried chicken, we just took ownership. everybody loves it but black people are like, that's ours. >> seth: right. >> so i ask questions, some questions are just -- some are black history, you know, what city did rosa parks refuse to give up a seat on the bus. >> seth: gotcha. >> some questions are just majority rules, like what's the one thing you should never buy in a store and take to a black cookout? >> seth: oh, i gotcha. >> everybody has a different answer. >> seth: what is a bad thing to bring to a black cookout. >> store-bought potato salad. >> seth: okay, gotcha. >> you will get hurt if you bring some store-bought potato salad. >> seth: gotcha. that's good to know. >> cause we'll weed it out. hey, man, this is not -- >> seth: oh, people buy it and then try to present it -- >> yeah. >> seth: i brought a little potato salad. that's like, no. >> seth: okay gotcha. you -- a standup comedian, also an actor. >> yes. >> seth: you were in but not in -- and i want to verify this -- the film "hitch." >> i was in the movie "hitch." everybody saw "hitch?" >> seth: "hitch" is a fantastic film.

[ cheers and applause ] >> so i was on a sitcom a few years ago that will smith executive produced called "all of us." season two, we're wrapping that season and will says, "hey, i got a movie for you. come to new york in two weeks, we're going to shoot this movie." no audition. he just gave me a part. i had to fly to new york to meet with the director. will was there, we read a couple of scenes for the director to show the connection -- our chemistry -- he loved it. he loved both of us. i shot three scenes with will. three scenes, one-on-one with will. i'm like, "this is going to change my life, it is going to be such a big movie." i fly my boys from the hood from brooklyn, new york, who have never been anywhere. i fly them to l.a. for the premiere. they're super excited. will walks in, i'm like, i go over to say hi. will sees me. he goes, "oh." pulls me to the side. they cut all three of your scenes out of the movie. so now, i walk back over to my friends. i don't have the heart to tell them. >> seth: yeah. >> so i sit there through the movie, and they're so excited just sitting next to me. like, "let us know the scene before you show up." so we can get ready. i'm like, "all right."

with ten minutes in, i'm just sitting there. 20 minutes in, they're like -- 40 minutes into the movie -- credits rolling. and my friend keith, he leans over and says, "so, are you the guy pushing the credits up? [ laughter ] he said, i was at the side doing this with the credits. >> seth: so you -- will smith, you are -- you have a criticism of rappers in interviews that i want to ask you about. >> i really don't like it when rappers do interviews because they say the same thing. every rapper, if i wasn't doing this i would be dead or in jail. are those the only two other options? what about if i wasn't doing this i would be managing a kinko's? >> seth: yeah, it'd be hard to imagine. >> and then, you hear some of the music and you're like, "oh, you going to jail." >> seth: if you're lucky. if you're lucky, you'll be at kinko's. >> you're going to jail. >> seth: so you're also in a new sitcom on cbs as well, "living biblically." >> yes, "living biblically" is a

sitcom based on the best-selling book "the year of living biblically," written by a.j. jacobs. he tried to live his life 100% by the bible one calendar year. on the sitcom, johnny galecki, patrick walsh, andrew haas, executive produced, on the sitcom, our lead character, jay ferguson, plays chip curry. he finds out his wife is pregnant and wants to be a better man by the time his child is born. so he has to live 100% by the bible until the baby is born. >> seth: well that's fantastic. >> i play his best friend at work that doesn't think he can do it and i think it is going to affect our relationship and my life because i live by the seat of my pants. >> seth: and if i watch it, you're definitely going to be in it? >> i'm definitely going to be in it. >> seth: okay gotcha. we know, you officially know. hey, thanks for being here, man. >> thank you so much. appreciate it. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: tony rock, everybody. "black card revoked" airs thursdays on bet. we'll be right back with more "late night." [ cheers and applause ] ♪ is your deodorant leaving white marks... ...or yellow stains on your clothes?

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♪ ♪ >> carson: hey gang, it's carson daly here with "last call" from the cutting room in new york city. got a good one. tonight we're going to hang with d' carden and jameela jamil from "the good place" here on