from washington, the mclaughlin group the american original. for over three decades the sharpest minds, best sources and hardest talk. >> issue one, trump versus the press. sit down. sit down. >> no -- >> sit down. go ahead. >> i have the right -- >> no, you don't. you haven't been called. >> i have the right to ask -- >> go become to uni vision. go ahead. >> you can't afford 11 million people -- >> go ahead. >> you cannot deny citizenship to children -- >> sit down, please. you weren't called. >> john mclaughlin, he's a good guy he said the other day, he

was arguing with one of the people on the panel. he said i don't understand you. accomplishment or achievement run? >> donald trump believes "the mclaughlin group" scrutinizes his policies fairly, opening his candidacy to observation and analysis. but, donald trump also believes he's a victim of broader media bias. and campaign stops around the nation, hecomplains that reporters misrepresent him and gotcha style journalism. sometimes like uni vision he removes the reporter. some of the political media really is very dishonest, he says. they don't want to print the truth and say what you said. they don't want to say what you mean. they know what you said and mean and they put it in totally

different words, end quoted. has he been been treated unfairly by the press? >> i don't think so. when you have someone who is a candidate and unbelievable racings champion like trump you have this odd unique relationship. he's aware when he goes on a t.v. channel the ratings go through the roof. he's conscience of his commercial power. he gave an interview where he said i wonder if i should ask cnn to pay millionsl of dollars to my chairrity. he's got this hybrid commercial personality. >> it's a love/hate relationship with the press. he's eclipsing all the other candidates and getting of what we call earned media, free media and the media is loving it the ratings are going up.

it's like watching a trainwreck on the side of the road, you can't take your eyes off of it. but i think if there's any truth to the sense of bias i think the media first saw him as a joke as a reality star. he wouldn't last long. i think now the media is beginning to think, hey, maybe he could win iowa and new hampshire and south carolina. he'll do well in the south. maybe there is something to this guy. i think you'll get more aggressive questioning of his policies to the extent that they exist and he'll get the kind of a scrutiny a real presidential candidate should expect. kim: the latest poll shows him with a bigger lead at 28% and second at 12% and rubio and bush at 7%. the july 30th poll has him at 20% to 28%. the poll asked people to say the first word that came to mind regarding trump.

what word came up first, care to guess? >> a word regarding hillary clinton was dishonest or a liar. >> arrogant is the word. >> blow hard? [laughter] >> but this -- i think eleanor is exactly right. he's going to be getting more scrutiny boot his poll numbers have been at top levels for now and during a period of time. this represents a nexus of dislike by the media and public. voters see him as going against the grain on both the front because he talks past the media. he says he doesn't need the media. he's done well despite the media not taking him very seriously and not your standard politician and still doing really well. >> i feel like i'm watching a reality t.v. show. here he is complaining about his media coverage. everything he says we cover. he's only gotten in trouble when

we quote him accurately. it's quite astounding. god love him, he made august exciting. i can't imagine the month without him. but the notion of getting him the nomination is mind boggling. >> what was the worst news for hillary? >> it was that she slipped. i don't know the exact numbers. >> biden did better than hillary in head to head polls against the leading republican contenders. this reinforces the view like many believe a weak candidate. >> oh, she's not mortally wounded and i wouldn't call her weak candidate. they love you until you announce and you get in. i think he's asking -- >> but the trust issues is a real problem and it's been a problem for months and not going

away and keeps dragging her down in the polls. the public doesn't see her as being honest when it comes to her personal e-mail server and other issues. they don't see her as trustworthy and that is a drag. >> it's a hard issue to put to rest but i would remind you that bill clinton was known as slick willy and he was elected twice and hillary clinton has a lot other good qualities, leader, tough and knowledgeable. >> i like hillary. you're not pointing the finger at me, are you? >> no, i'm addressing the assembly. >> who should trump pick at his running mate? >> i like trumping mate, actually.

>> i figured he wouldn't want to share the job. perhaps he'll appoint himself. office. >> he could pick someone who so far what trump is eluded is answering things in the substantive way. he's never really talked about what he's going to do in detail. if he hires someone who is able to do that and someone who is experienced and maybe someone who is strong on foreign policy that would be a benefit. he could go by which state he needed to win. maybe somebody from ohio or florida or pick a woman. carly who is popular and another ceo and business person >> what voters would he benefit by and how could he get them to come in at one swoop? >> he would benefit by picking a female running mate.

>> how about a hispanic running mate. >> marco rubio is cuban and sometimes they view a cuban as different and they don't consider him hispanic even though you are. fantasizing about trupl's running mate is a little premature. >> anna martinez governor in new mexico, she's -- >> a former democrat. >> she got re-elected in new mexico. she gave a good speech in 2012 about realizing she was a republican when she never imagined she could be. >> don't forget -- >> another and cat that is strong on foreign policy issues and invited trump to appear with him to talk about the iran deal, that's another good possibility for him. >> how about --

>> ted cruz would be like a rocket ship that would implode before it went anywhere with trump. >> how about karly fee or rhea for running mate? >> she's a non-politician. do you want to have a vice president and president candidate who are both -- >> she's only a non-politician because she lost in 2010. her record as ceo with hewett packard would come under withering examination. she was forced out. but her leadership was not that good. >> with trump a woman vice president candidate or a man? >> i think if hillary is a democratic nominee there would be a lot of positive pressure on

the republicans to put a woman in that second spot. >> answer the question, on a scale from 0-10, 0 meaning nada and ten being the big moe, how much momentum does trump have? from 1 to 10? >> he's like a seven. >> seven? >> yeah. >> four. >> four, exactly. you read my mind. >> i read you so well. >> nine. >> nine! >> considering his improbable rise to the top of all the candidates right now, he's a nine. >> seven. we don't really see what his feeling is right now. it's very interesting but i think we'll have a better idea after real votes are cast. >> i'll split it between you two, i think it's an eight. >> a problem of poop when we

come back. >> a problem of poop. the environmental protection agency epa, faces a smelly problem, a poop problem. according to an august 20th report by bloomberg, north carolina's roughly 8 million hogs are now producing about 14 billion gallons of waste a year.

yes, 14 billion gallons of hog feces according to mclaughlin group calculations that's enough feces to fill 80,200 olympic sized swimming pools. of course north carolina does not have 80,200 olympic side swimming pools so the stinking waste must go elsewhere. it's being flushed along lagoons and bacteria breaks it down allowing it to act as a farming fertilizer but there's a catch. runoff from these lagoons travels into river systems. that helps to grow fields o algae that deplete oxygen levels and that harms wildlife and the environment, another poop problem for the environmental protection agency.

does the epa need to introduce tougher regulations on farmers? i think i'll ask you. >> they have the same problem in the chesapeake with chicken poop and it's disrupted the crab fishing or whatever we do to catch crabs, crabbing. it's turned the corner but a lot came from pressure for people who like the crabs and the watermen whose jobs depend on this for generation after generation. the same thing has to happen with north carolina. you need to have people who are effected according to industries and various leisure activities. >> it's intertwined with politics. the members of congress that represent north carolina and washington are going to protect the farmers. and epa is not a welcomed guest in congress these days. they don't get much money. if they did put out tougher regulations this would be

resisted. this is not a new problem. it's been building for a long time and there are so many issues related to industrial farming of animals. i wish we could all go vegan. those poor pigs, they don't even have room to turn around. >> why can't you go vegan? >> i would like to, but i wish i had somebody to -- being vegan is hard because you really have to work to get your protein and it. but i've moved away from being beef and pork and all of that. as a society we still consume huge amounts of what these pigs produce. >> back to poop. what accounts to the increase in farm waste in north carolina? >> for one thing americans eat a lot of meat still. i know this as a foreigner living here for several years,

the bacon is the candy of meat. >> bacon on everything. >> so there is a problem. politically i tell you what's going to be interesting, the piece you cited about one of these big, big players down in north carolina is a company called smithfield. they just got bought by the chinese. one of the big market growth is going to be raising meat here to export to china because the chinese middle class are very worried about how safe their own meat is. if we had just about comfortable with tons and tons of big poop so americans can have double bacon burgers, if this is to send meat to china i wonder if that starts to change some of the political calculus. >> issue ready made for donald trump. >> i have a stat on this. exports to japan and china pork

exports chiefly to japan and china. pork exports reach a record high of 431,000 metric tons worth $6.3 billion in 2012 up from a mere 57,000 metric tons in 2003. can you work that around? >> they get the bacon and we get the poop. donald trump will be waiting on his waiters around one of those lagoons. >> i think trump prefers ham. >> i think the epa has moved increasingly to regulate waterways in the u.s. as the waters of the u.s. that the obama administration the court has put a stay on that, what it would do is allow the epa to regulate bodies of water that are not your typical rivers and lakes but smaller areas of water in order to deal with issues just like this. what do we do with all this runoff that ends in these

smaller bodies of water but then migrates towards the greater bodies of water. but congress has put the brakes on all this and republicans rupping the house and senate don't want more epa regulations and they feel like it's increasing the price of business and protecting the price of farmers and the people want to pay more for their bacon burgers in order to protect the waterways. it's going to be a balance. >> what does the epa say? >> they want to move in and use greater regulations on these bodies of water. >> they've been pretty -- >> the political pressure is there and exports are generated, that helps the economy so you pressures. we're a capitalist country and business typically wins. >> epa is on solid ground because the waterways that are

being polluted empty into the atlantic seaboard making the problem one of multiple state jurisdictions and federal management of ocean fisheries. go ahead. >> america does not -- it seems to be the environmental policy in america, in some places it's gradual. you get this massive crisis and things change fast. we remember in the late days of the nixon administration where you had the great lakes and the rivers catching fire in the midwest and so suddenly everyone realizes this was unsustainable. the american public is willing to give business the benefit of the doubt until you have a gigantic blatant crisis. >> start going recreational swimming and they encounter something and then it will be on the front pages and there will be some pressure to act. john, i'm glad you did this issue. maybe it will start waking up

the public as to what is going on out there. in a perfect world -- >> a lot of members of the public that are not too aggressively friendly to epa and their position what's the case against the epa taking jurisdiction and the answer is it's an incremental step of management from hog waste lag goons to micromanagement of farm and businesses in america that borders a waterway or watershed. >> what are they going to do about the lagoons? >> with china's economy in trouble will their appetite for imported pork shrink? >> i used to live in china and they eat a lot of pork, not bacon. bacon is not known in china. i lived in china a decade ago of pork.

>> were you with the magazine? >> the daily telegraph. >> which do you prefer? >> i prefer who i work for now, i can honestly say. >> the right response. >> did you study over there how to be a successful politician? sounds like it. or a diplomat. >> in journalism we're clean to all our jobs. >> why can't china produce more pork cheaply. it can. but it's got cancers and all sorts of things. >> they don't have anything to produce anything. they're afraid of products made in their own country. >> in china they had pig bodies floating down the river. >> every opportunity they get republicans move to block the epa and on the waterways issue,

they're very upset about the epa's -- what they called the power grab over these bodies of water. they're trying to stop it. it's possible they'll try to do it for the appropriations process. they are very much involved. >> final nerd point i want to make with regard to what it costs -- it costs $0.16 per pound to raise hogs in china. pollution that makes farming less productive and higher feed grain course. so there you are. there's the nerd value of this discussion. what's the solution to this mess before we leave it? >> becoming a vegetarian. i think eleanor had it right. >> then you look like bill clinton if you're a vegan began. >> go vegans. >> the answer is more vegans. we'll be right back with the

predictions. >> donald trump will still be in the lead in the republican polls. >> the support of former apex head is further evidence that the deal will survive congress and may not come to a vote in the senate. >> what's the deal? >> the deal with iran to stall the nuclear ambitions for at least a decade.

>> i believe that congress will disapprove the deal but won't be enough votes to sustain that -- to overturn the presidential veto. so the deal will survive. >> do you disagree? >> i think they'll vote to disapprove the deal. >> i agree and believe that the reopening of britain's embassies in tehran will be able to survive and makes it difficult for the u.s. to pull out. >> after investors recover from the china shock this month, they'll rediscover that the u.s. economy is still growing and america is a safe place to invest and stocks will rebound accordingly.

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