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derek carr, letting the jets hang around. kevin: the third consecutive three and out for the oakland raiders. marquette king once again to punt. and returnable back at the 16 with a hang time of 417b9 -- 4.1. kerley's long return this year is 52 yards on a punt 52-yard punt and six-yard return by kerley. for those of you expecting to watch "60 minutes," you're watching the nfl on cbs. it is a lead of 34-20. raiders right now, late fourth. entirety immediately following the game except on the west coast where it will be seen at its regularly scheduled time. steve b.: that last position took just 25 seconds off the game clock.
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kevin: they go for marshall. a little bit high and on the ricochet -- no interception made by amerson. high throw by geno smith. rich: at least they're pushing the ball down the field. throw. you have to put it on them. tough to overthrow a guy that's 6'4". he looks a little gimpy too. he still looks not 100%. second down 10. stacy is in. mack is chasing -- mack gets him. back near the 11. his third sack. rich: you can't do this talking football. throw the ball away. you have nobody open?
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you can't take a sack in this situation. no idea what geno smith is thinking in that situation. kevin: and the clock just continues to roll down. now third and 21 after that third sack by the defense of the raiders. a loss of 11. rich: look how deep they are in the second rape. -- secondary. kevin: two-minute warning. jets down by 14 points in the fourth in oakland.nawich day at subway. buy any sub and a 30z drink and you'll get another sub free. we posted an ad online to see who wanted a free sub. turns out, everyone. i saw the sandwich ad is that you? yes that's me! yes are you ashley? i bought one and they gave me a free one to give away. this is fantastic it's for you. really? yeah no really really. yes! incredible. so nice to meet you bye. tuesday is national sandwich day at subway, buy any sub and a 30z drink get a free sub to give away.
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kevin: tonight on cbs begins with "60 minutes" and a discovery of a rare piece of american history followed by "madam secretary," "the good wife and "csi: cyber." third and 21. they need the 32. draw play. stacy. and brought down by smith on a gain of two.
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rich: that's an interesting call, isn't it? you have third and 21 and you run a draw? what am i miss something kevin: so it's fourth and 19. rich: this is really a bad sequence of series on the last two offenses. the raiders did a poor job with their possession. this has been awful for the jets. kevin: throws and it is caught by decker for a first down at the 34-yard line. picks up 22. on further and 19. -- fourth and 19. rich: got a ways to go. they can't even get lined up. kevin: decker with six catches and 61 yards and a four-yard first and 10. smith. thompkins. hit by chore. clock. you have to take the time-out in this situation.
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they get another first down. game of 12 there. rich: other ways to stop the clock. you can clock it. incompletions, get out of bounds. you waste too much time trying to get lined up. now they have to take some shots, give these receivers a chance to make the play down the field. the dinking and dunking, that's what the raiders will allow you to do. they'll play soft and play off in the secondary. kevin: both teams look gassed, rich. they look tired. rich: i don't know why they're tired. you and i were at san francisco two weeks ago, london, back in oakland. we're not tired. kevin: first and 10. and they go for marshall. rich: get out of bounds. kevin: he does. thorpe got him. first down reception. rich: they have a quarterback
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down. kevin: and smith waylayed. rich: this will be an officials time-out. a fourth time-out. kevin: it's an injury so a 10-second runoff. we saw this with the jets last week in new england. rich: smith gets hit right at the end. kevin: by ray-ray armstrong. rich: puts his helmet right in his chest. i think it just knocks the wind out of him. now the question is who's -- ryan fitzpatrick is going to come in -- he's been standing around there for the last two hours doing nothing. he'll obviously be in the shotgun. he can't be under center with that left thumb. and, of course, he can't really even protect himself with that left hand. kevin: since play went out of
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10-second runoff. rich: it would be a 10-second runoff if the clock was still running. this situation they'll be provided a fourth time-out, if you will. kevin: he's slow to get up. those are the numbers in relief of the injured fitzpatrick. rich: now, if they had another injury time-out in this situation you'd get a fifth time-out but then there would be a 10-second runoff. kevin: exactly. rich: see what ryan fitzpatrick's got. standing around for two and a half hour. kevin: i know one thing he doesn't have and that's time-outs. they're out. rich: they have the ball at the 43-yard line. he's got to take shots down the
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kevin: first and 10. rich: you catch the ball first if you're fitzpatrick. kevin: kerley undernortheast. a nice block from wesley johnson and he's finally hit. that's flag. a catch and run of 26 yards. rich: if that's on the defense it's going to stop the clock. gives the jets a chance to line up and get another play called. referee: illegal block in the back by the offense, number 30. a 10-yard penalty. enforced from the end of the run. repeat third down. kevin: see him coming there at the end. it's not even necessary.
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he should have pulled off earlier. zac stacy getting a little bit aggressive. kevin: still a first down enforced from the end of the run at the 28-yard line of the raiders. rich: stops the clock and gives them a chance to get the play dialed up. kevin: fits patrickic -- fitzpatrick in for the injured smith and deflected by defensive back larry asante and incomplete. second and 10. seven defensive backs are back there. there is geno smith. rich: he's back in. kevin: yep. ooh. they came in banged up as it was, guys that were injured still playing today.
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geno smith. chased by malcolm smith. they were going for brandon marshall and it was broken up on the play by d.j. hayden. rich: brandon marshall has to keep coming back to the football. at the end of the route he's going to stop and sit and wait. hayden is working all the way back and undercuts him. brandon marshall has to keep working back to the football. can't get lazy at the top of your route. kevin: marshall today, 108 yards receiving on nine catches. third down and 10. short for cumberland. coverage downfield by carrie. rich: he's hurt again? kevin: a shot to the midsection? looks like he's holding on to his left hand. fourth and 10. rich: boy, the raiders are
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getting some hits on the quarterback. i don't even know what happened there. kevin: fourth and 10. they need the oakland 18. no time-outs. 29 seconds to go. rich: i'm surprised the raiders are just playing one single high safety. kevin: and smith for marshall and dropped at the 2. thorpe, the coverage. and on downs, the raiders get it. the jets out of time-outs and oakland is going to go to 4-3. rich: it was close. this one comes into the chest of brandon marshall. they got the look they wanted. they got the one-on-one matchup against thorpe. woodson was late getting there over the top. kevin: the raiders will win their second consecutive and the
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consecutive. a four-touchdown day by derek carr. the raiders looking up at denver. they'll play green bay tonight on sunday night. rich: that's a good win for the raiders, kevin. this is a team that's growing up, that's learning what's expected of them. jack del rio talked to us on friday about taking nothing for granted with in football team. kevin: and they exceed their number of wins from a year ago. raiders. tonight on cbs, "60 minutes" followed by "madam secretary," "the good wife" and csi: cyber. you've been watching the nfl on cbs, home of super bowl 50. ah! come on! let's hide in the attic.
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and you look young and fresh, you're the... you're the girl next door. and you were addicted to heroin. >> i mean, obviously, it's very flattering that you say, like, i don't look like a junkie. but even miss america could be a junkie. i mean, anybody can be a junkie. >> stahl: do i get... i get my own, right? >> you get your own ring. >> stahl: the ring has a tiny computer chip inside a black stone which transmits a signal. when it's close to the trigger, it unlocks the gun. >> alternatively, if i were to grab it, you know, nothing happens. >> stahl: that's an example of what's known as a smart gun that only its owner can shoot. every time a mass shooting occurs, the conversation begins again about why you can't buy one. >> pelley: the fort oversaw the trafficking of more than 400,000 slaves.
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>> whitaker: federal and local authorities all over the country say it's the biggest drug epidemic today-- not methamphetamines or cocaine, but heroin. you might think of heroin as primarily an inner city problem. but dealers connected to mexican drug cartels are making huge profits by expanding to new, lucrative markets-- suburbs all across the country. it's basic economics-- the dealers are going where the money is. and they're cultivating a new set of consumers-- high school students, college athletes, teachers, and professionals. heroin is showing up everywhere in places like columbus, ohio. the area has long been viewed as so typically middle american that, for years, many companies have gone there to test new
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products. we went to the columbus suburbs to see how heroin is taking hold in the heartland. i'm sitting here looking at you, and you look young and fresh, you're the... you're the girl next door. and you were addicted to heroin. >> hannah morris: i mean, obviously, it's very flattering that you say, like, i don't look like a junkie. but even miss america could be a junkie. i mean, anybody can be a junkie. >> whitaker: hannah morris is in college now. she says she's been clean for a year, but in high school, she was using heroin. hannah lives outside columbus, in the upper-middle class suburb of worthington. her parents are professionals. the median income here is $87,000 a year. before she got hooked on heroin, hannah thought it was just another party drug. how did you get to those depths? what was the path you took? >> morris: it started with weed, and it was fun and i got to good weed.
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went to... oh, my gosh, i went to pills, and it was still fun-- you know, percocet, xanax, vicodin, all that kind of stuff. and then, yeah, heroin. i started smoking it at first. >> whitaker: so you were what, 15? >> morris: yeah. and i was like, "oh, my gosh, that was amazing." >> whitaker: you remember it even now? >> morris: oh, yeah. let's say i've never done a drug in my life. i would normally be happiness at a six or a seven at a scale out of ten, you know. and then you take heroin and you're automatically at a 26. and you're like, "i want that again." >> whitaker: hannah says the heroin was so addictive that, rather quickly, she and several other students went from smoking it at parties to shooting it up at high school. >> morris: like, doing it at school in the bathroom. >> whitaker: a syringe? >> morris: a syringe. i would have it in my purse, all ready to go. >> whitaker: jenna morrison has struggled to remain clean for almost three years. she comes from a town that is smaller and more rural than hannah's. jenna says her addiction started
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with legal opiates- pain pills you can get with a prescription. chemically, they're almost identical to heroin. >> jenna morrison: i got on pain pills pretty bad when i was probably between 15 and 16. >> whitaker: and the heroin came... >> morrison: when i was 18. >> whitaker: was it an easy transition from the pain pills to heroin? >> morrison: very, because i didn't realize at the time that heroin is an opiate. i didn't know that that was the same thing as the pills that i was using. >> whitaker: why were you using all these drugs? >> morrison: i'm in a small town. there was nothing to do. and i was hanging out with older people. so, that was our way of having fun, partying. >> mike dewine: this is the worst drug epidemic i've seen in... in my lifetime. >> whitaker: mike dewine is the attorney general of ohio. he's a former u.s. senator, congressman, and a county prosecutor. we met him at a state crime lab outside columbus. >> dewine: it's in every single county. it's in our cities, but it's
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also in our wealthier suburbs. it's in our small towns. there is no place in ohio where you can hide from it. >> whitaker: it's that pervasive? >> dewine: there is no place in ohio where you couldn't have it delivered to you in 15, 20 minutes. >> morris: i can text and say, "hey do you have this?" we can meet. they would bring it to my house, leave it under the mat. it's pretty easy to get. >> whitaker: full service. >> morris: uh-huh, yeah. to me, it was easier to get than weed or cocaine, definitely easier. >> whitaker: dealers with connections to the mexican cartels sell heroin everywhere, even in this department store parking lot outside columbus. >> he'll be coming out of that car right there. >> whitaker: our cameras captured the purchase of this heroin by an undercover police informant. what is this? >> so this is a couple types of heroin that we see. >> whitaker: attorney general mike dewine's staffers say the mexican heroin can be cheap-- $10 a hit or less.
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drugs that make it even more powerful and deadly. and dealers keep inventing new ways to outwit law enforcement. and what do you have here? >> these are actually tablets. so they are pressed to look like a actual prescription tablet, but they contain heroin. >> whitaker: heroin in pill form. >> that look like pills, correct. >> whitaker: this... this is new. >> very new. we've only seen a few cases in the lab. >> whitaker: and something else mike dewine says is new since his days as a county prosecutor- - heroin has lost its stigma as a poisonous, back alley drug. >> dewine: there's no psychological barrier anymore that stops a young person or an older person from taking heroin. >> whitaker: so, who is the typical heroin user in ohio today? >> dewine: anybody watching today this show. it could be your family. there's no typical person. it just has permeated every segment of society in ohio.
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>> whitaker: even the well-to-do town of pickerington, 30 minutes outside of columbus. tyler campbell was a star of the high school football team. he went on to play division one at the university of akron. for tyler, heroin wasn't a party drug. his parents, wayne and christy campbell, say his heroin habit grew from his addiction to opiate painkillers, prescribed legally after he injured his shoulder. what were the pills? >> christy campbell: it was vicodin. >> wayne campbell: vicodin. he had 60 vicodin for his shoulder surgery. >> whitaker: that's a normal prescription? >> wayne campbell: for that procedure. >> whitaker: it's easy for kids to sell their excess pills. they're popular recreational drugs in high schools and colleges, so much in demand that one pill can cost up to $80. pill addicts like tyler often switch to heroin because it's a cheaper opiate with a bigger high. tyler was in and out of rehab four times. the night he came home the last
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heroin addiction. he shot up in his bedroom and died of a heroin overdose. he wasn't the only addict on his college football team. >> wayne campbell: unfortunately, the quarterback died four months after tyler, in 2011, same situation. >> christy campbell: same-- accidental overdose. >> first of all, if you don't talk about it, right? >> whitaker: after tyler died, the campbells met many families whose children were heroin addicts in the suburbs of columbus. like tyler, most got hooked on pills first. started with pain pills? >> absolutely. >> whitaker: t.j. and heidi riggs' daughter died of a heroin overdose. marin was a high school basketball player and captain of her golf team. lea heidman and brian malone's daughter alyssa died of an overdose earlier this year. brenda stewart has two sons in recovery. tracy morrison is jenna morrison's mother, and has a second daughter who is also a recovering addict. rob brandt's son was an addict. >> rob brandt: he battled it through high school.
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>> whitaker: he says his son robby got hooked on pain pills prescribed by a dentist after his wisdom teeth were removed. he was in training with the national guard, hoping to serve in afghanistan. >> brandt: and when he came home, he met up with an old friend that he used to buy and sell prescription medications with, and that old friend introduced him to heroin. and we did the... we did rehab, we did relapse, we did rehab, and he got clean. but the drug called his name again and... and he said yes, and that was the last time and he passed from an accidental overdose. >> whitaker: for many of these parents, the hardest thing to accept was losing their children after they thought they'd finally beaten the addiction. >> lea heidman: she passed away the day after st. patrick's day. and she posted on st. patrick's day a picture of her on her laptop, studying, doing homework, saying, "no partying for me, not even a single drink. i'm staying in and i'm... and
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and the next day she used, and that was the last time she used. >> tracy morrison: i am a nurse... >> whitaker: tracy morrison, jenna's mother, trained to be a nurse more than 30 years ago. she says the medical profession must bear some responsibility for the heroin epidemic. she says doctors over-prescribe pain medications. >> tracy morrison: i graduated in the '80s. i was a nursing director when we decided to swing the pendulum from not treating pain to treat everybody's pain. i was a part of that. and at that time, i had no idea that we were addicting people. >> whitaker: last year, three quarters of a billion pain pills were prescribed by doctors in ohio-- nearly 65 pills for every man, woman and child in the state. how did you respond when your daughters told you they were using heroin? >> tracy morrison: well, they first told me they were using
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they were using heroin was i came home from work one day, made dinner, and i was yelling for my youngest daughter to come for dinner and she didn't. and i walked into her bedroom and her boyfriend was shooting her up. >> whitaker: you saw this? >> tracy morrison: i saw it. >> whitaker: what did you do? >> tracy morrison: dropped the plate of food. i dropped it. and i was hysterical. >> whitaker: tracy's daughter jenna is 25 now. she knows she's lucky to be alive. >> jenna morrison: in my addiction, i have been to rehab 17 times, and i had been to jail six or seven times. so every time i went to jail, i got out, went to rehab, came home and relapsed, and then did it all over again. >> whitaker: you overdosed, as well? >> morrison: uh-huh. >> whitaker: how many times? >> morrison: i only overdosed once, and i woke up in an ambulance. >> whitaker: jenna would have died if emergency medical technicians hadn't injected her with naloxone hydrochloride,
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it quickly reverses the effects of opiates in the brain. >> so this is the kit... >> whitaker: the heroin problem in ohio is so big, families and friends of addicts-- not just health professionals-- are being taught to administer narcan, which is now available without a prescription. >> this is what it looks like. this is the little purple cap, actually is the medication. >> tracy morrison: this is a hurricane. >> whitaker: though she's a nurse, tracy morrison says, at first, she had no idea her daughters were addicts. neither did the other parents. but they feel they missed all the signs and let their children down. you feel guilty? >> every day. >> heidi riggs: you lost the battle, so you're always going to say, "is there something i could have done differently? is... you know, did... why didn't i notice it when i had missing spoons that it wasn't because, you know, they left cereal bowls upstairs. it was actually because, you know, she was using them to shoot heroin." but who would have thought our children would ever do heroin? >> whitaker: all of these
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parents say they wanted to talk to us because too many other families are embarrassed, in denial about their kids' heroin use. these parents say the stigma and shame are compounding the epidemic. >> heidi riggs: no one was talking about that we had heroin in pickerington. and so, for us, we were total shock when it happened. and... but the struggle was the stigma. >> brenda stewart: never say, "not my child." >> yeah, right. >> brenda stewart: because you never know. it could end up being your child. >> brian malone: you never want to get that call. you never want to get that call. >> whitaker: the call you got? >> brian malone: the call you got, and we got the call. >> whitaker: today, heroin overdoses take the lives of at least 23 people in ohio every week. we were told many other heroin deaths go unreported. i'm sure there are some who would be watching this and would say, "heroin addicts are junkies and they brought this on themselves, so why should we care?" >> tracy morrison: because we don't throw diabetics who sit on
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the couch eating bonbons and smoke and they weigh 300 pounds in prison. we don't belittle them, and there's not a big stigma. we don't do that to people that chain smoke and develop lung cancer. it's a chronic, relapsing brain disease, period, amen, end of story. and we need to accept it, even if it makes people uncomfortable. and if people don't like that, i'm sorry. >> cbs money watch update sponsored by lincoln financial. calling all chief life officers. >> glor: good evening. a jobs report on friday should weigh heavily on the fed's decision whether to raise interest rates next month. greece's four largest banks need $16 billion to cover wad loans. and anheuser-busch and miller have until wednesday to finalize the terms of their $106 billion
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>> stahl: every time there's a massacre at a school, like the recent one in oregon, it re- ignites the debate for more gun control-- not only because of the mass shootings, but because of the hundreds of incidents of gun violence every day on our streets and in our homes.
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one idea that keeps coming up is smart guns. these are firearms that only work when they're fired by their owner. it seems that "gee whiz" technology is seeping into every corner of our lives. why not guns? in the 2012 movie "skyfall," "q" gives james bond a smart gun that only he can activate. >> it's been coded to your palm print, so only you can fire it. >> stahl: later, when the bad guy gets a hold of it... >> good luck with that. >> stahl: firearms that recognize only their owner aren't just the stuff of movies. army veteran tom lynch is developing a touch-pad scanner that recognizes fingerprints, like an iphone. add it to an existing gun and it's a smart gun. so, it's recognizing you? there you go. >> tom lynch: it's recognizing me. >> stahl: okay. >> lynch: now.
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>> lynch: it's unlocked. it's still on "fire." >> stahl: let me try it. let's see if i can... >> lynch: now pull the trigger. >> stahl: i can't even pull the trigger. oh. >> lynch: that's the point. >> stahl: it's locked. >> lynch: it's locked. >> stahl: other inventors are working on guns that recognize the squeeze of your grip, or unlock wirelessly if the shooter wears a watch or a ring. these guns would not have prevented many of the mass shootings because the gunmen owned the firearms, but smart gun advocates say they could counter this all-too-common grim reality... >> a 14-year-old boy accidentally shot and killed his nine-year-old brother. >> stahl: ...children shot and killed by other children. >> a tragic shooting-- two friends playing with a gun when it goes off. >> stahl: smart guns could curtail the number of suicides, and cut down on the resale of stolen guns, estimated to be 230,000 every year. what good is a gun no one but the owner can fire? >> shots fired in johnson city. we have an officer down.
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on-duty cops. >> there was a struggle, and clark grabbed officer smith's gun and shot him two times." >> stahl: and yet, with at least a half-dozen smart guns in advanced development and some ready for manufacturing, no major u.s. gun company is making them, and no gun dealer is willing to sell them. why? well, consider what happened to one maryland gun dealer who tried. >> andy raymond i like the way sterling arsenal actually painted this thing. >> stahl: last year, andy raymond, co-owner of engage armament, announced that he'd sell the armatix ip1, a smart pistol made in germany. who did you think would be interested in that kind of a gun? >> raymond: typically, what i like to call "fence sitters," so people who aren't normally into guns and don't normally want one. you know, "i'm too afraid" or whatever. >> stahl: did you anticipate the reaction that you got? >> raymond: no. >> stahl: within minutes of his announcement, angry emails and phone calls started coming.
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phone calls and maybe about the same emails. >> stahl: all against? >> raymond: yeah, that was just in one day. i mean, it was insane. i mean, one person threatened to burn down the shop. another person threatened that i would be raped-- that was classic. >> stahl: you would be raped? >> raymond: yeah. >> stahl: did you get any death threats? >> raymond: yeah. the crazies did come out of the woodwork. >> stahl: that's him that night, shaved head and whiskey bottle at his side. he stayed in his store to guard it and posted this video on facebook. >> raymond: so anyway, obviously, i received numerous death threats today. i really ( bleep ) appreciate that. i think that's ( bleep ) classy. that's a great thing for gun rights when you threaten to shoot somebody. >> stahl: he thinks the campaign against him was viral, not organized by the gun lobby. though, in his rant, he wondered why gun lovers and the national rifle association would oppose the sale of any gun. >> raymond: how can the n.r.a. or people want to prohibit a gun when we're supposed to be pro gun? we're supposed to say that any
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person's hands. how can they say that a gun should be prohibited? how hypocritical is that? if you believe in the second amendment, and the second amendment is absolute-- that the right of people to keep and bears arms shall not be infringed-- then you should be able to buy whatever you want. >> stahl: what andy didn't realize is that there's a long, beleaguered history to these devices. 15 years ago, gun maker smith and wesson promised the clinton white house to develop smart guns as part of a deal to fend off liability litigation. >> bill clinton: under the agreement, smith and wesson will develop smart guns that can be fired only by the adults who own them. >> stahl: the gun lobby organized a boycott against smith and wesson, seeing smart guns and other concessions in the deal as part of the gun control agenda. factories closed, employees were laid off, and after that, no big u.s. gun maker ever went near a smart gun. >> steve sanetti: there's a lot... lot of skepticism and a lot of resistance to them.
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>> stahl: steve sanetti, president of the gun lobby and trade group the national shooting sports foundation, represents over 12,000 gun makers, dealers, and businesses. does your organization see the smart gun as gun control? >> sanetti: people that own guns are not the ones saying, "i'm the one that wants this. please develop it." it's coming from the gun control side. it's coming from people who, frankly, really want to put as many obstacles to a gun going off as they can. >> stahl: why are dealers who want to sell it, why are they being intimidated not to? why not let the market decide? people don't want it, don't buy it. >> sanetti: well, i agree. we think the market should be able to decide that. we have never fought the idea that dealers can put them on the shelves. it's totally up to the marketplace and the dealers. >> stahl: so where is that fight coming from? >> sanetti: that's the point. people don't understand the passion that firearms owners have for the firearms that they own. >> stahl: the passion has been fueled by the n.r.a., which says on its legislative web site,
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to a ban on all other guns. why do they say that? well, it's actually happened. signed a law that became known as "the mandate." >> sanetti: there is a statute in the state of new jersey that would say that, once a gun like this is offered for sale anywhere, that's the only kind of gun that could be sold. in wyoming or california, this triggers the law? >> stahl: that everybody in new jersey has to have that. >> sanetti: right. >> stahl: loretta weinberg, the new jersey state senator who authored the law, didn't foresee its consequences. >> loretta weinberg: we passed that bill to help spur this technology. >> stahl: it appears it totally backfired because it spurred this passionate objection to the gun... >> weinberg: because of the intervention of the n.r.a. and the second amendment folks. >> stahl: ...that they say the reason they intervened is because of the mandate. >> weinberg: right. it isn't the law that's stopped the development. it is the people who threatened
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folks who actually wanted to sell such a gun. >> stahl: andy raymond came to realize that, even if he had sold the armatix gun in maryland, it might've triggered the mandate, banning the sale of regular handguns in new jersey. >> raymond: the people of new jersey-- my apologies. you got nothing to worry about from me. i did apologize. i'm... i'm sorry. sorry to this day. >> stahl: did you actually sell any of the armatix guns? >> raymond: no. >> stahl: after his case came to her attention, the new jersey senator offered to rescind the mandate if the gun lobby publicly removed its opposition to smart guns. she's yet to hear back. >> weinberg: they seem to oppose almost everything. anytime we suggest anything, we've gotten very little cooperation back. >> stahl: if the law were completely repealed, do you think that the gun lobby would then let this go forward? >> weinberg: no.
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to take my firearm, which i store safely and properly and i've never had problems with it, and add something to it that's going to make it more prone to failure? >> stahl: what about the argument that we have seat belts. we have air bags, they're mandatory. >> sanetti: uh-huh. >> stahl: why not make a safe gun mandatory? >> sanetti: firearms are safe. the firearms manufacturers include appropriate locking devices for their guns along with them when they're shipped. they may be low tech, but they work. >> stahl: he says adding high- tech to guns may make them less safe. for example, the batteries that operate the smart guns. >> sanetti: we've all had battery-operated devices where the battery dies. >> stahl: so the people who are working on this tell us that the batteries will have a ten-year life. >> sanetti: what about the 11th year? >> stahl: well, you change the battery. >> sanetti: if you remember, if... >> stahl: no, you're going to get a warning. >> sanetti: if the gun is stored inside a cabinet, or a box, or a safe or something like that, you might not see the warning. >> stahl: other concerns-- will fingerprints work in snow and
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rain? will they work if you're sweating because an intruder entered your home? could guns using wireless technology be hacked, or jammed and disabled remotely by the government? >> sanetti: we have to be careful not to fall into the technology trap. it doesn't solve every problem. it's great. we're not luddites, we're not here saying that technology is a bad thing. technology obviously improves our life in many ways. but i think you have to look at firearms in a slightly different way. their mechanisms are the way they are over centuries of development. they're... they're at that state now that the consumers want them, and in the united states, there's a lot of tradition involved firearms. people like guns of the old west, they like them the way davie crockett used them, they like them the way they were used years ago. >> stahl: that was the case a decade and a half ago, as jonathan mossberg found out. he had left his family's gun making business, mossberg and sons, and invented a smart gun that works in conjunction with a ring. do i get... get my own, right? >> jonathan mossberg: yeah, you
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get your own ring. >> stahl: the ring has a tiny computer chip inside a black stone which transmits a signal. when it's close to the trigger, it unlocks the gun. >> mossberg: alternatively, if i were to grab it, you know, nothing happens. >> stahl: mossberg's gun was ready to sell 13 years ago, but... >> mossberg: people weren't really... there was some market, but not enough, so we decided not to sell it. >> stahl: and has something changed? >> mossberg: yes. we all started living with these meetings, and they're extremely reliable. >> stahl: he thinks that today's young parents, comfortable with technology, are a ripe market. and silicon valley agrees. >> ron conway: this is going to happen outside the gun industry. why they aren't doing research and investing in this baffles me. >> stahl: ron conway, one of the early investors in facebook and
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google, is now looking for, he says, the mark zuckerberg of guns. he has funded at least 15 smart gun inventors, including those involved in the two guns we tested. are you thinking that, if the gun manufacturers don't come along, that they're going to be like kodak? >> conway: absolutely. >> stahl: this is what you're saying. >> conway: yes-- kodak and polaroid all wrapped in one. you cannot stop innovation. and this is an area where innovation is taking over. >> stahl: are you not worried about the politics of this whole issue? >> conway: i think, for technology and innovation, we have to ignore politics. >> stahl: can you? >> conway: of course you can. >> stahl: but when it comes to guns, it's all about politics. just ask andy raymond. >> raymond: i got caught up in the middle of something that was way beyond me, way beyond my capabilities, and got caught between two sides that... i mean, it was just... i will
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never, ever, ever touch anything else like that ever, ever again. >> stahl: as of today, you cannot find a smart gun to buy in the united states. senator loretta weinberg told us that she plans to ask the new jersey state legislature to repeal the mandate, but replace it with a demand that dealers display at least one smart gun in their stores. question is, will dealers be too gun-shy? if this gun does take off, would you sell it? >> raymond: absolutely not. >> stahl: ever? >> raymond: i would rather be shot by a smart gun than sell one. >> this cbs sports update is brought to you by ford. i'm james brown with scores from the nfl today. cincinnati improved to 7-0 for the first time ever. carson palmer throws four
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>> pelley: 200 years ago, a ship named for st. joseph sank in a terrible storm. half the passengers survived, but the sea closed over more than 200 men, women and children who were locked below the deck. you would think a disaster like that would be legendary. but the "st. joseph" was a slave ship, and the screams bursting from the hold were the cries of cargo. today, the silence of those lost voices is unbearable to lonnie bunch.
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he's the founding director of the smithsonian national museum of african-american history and culture, now under construction in washington. bunch found that, to tell history, the smithsonian would have to make history. and so began a quest for the remains of a shipwreck in a land so unchanged that an 18th- century slave would recognize it today as the last shore he called home. mozambique island defies the erosion of time. the portuguese colonists who claimed it 500 years ago would still find the cut of the cloth that borrows the wind as familiar as the cut of the stone that framed their city. lonnie bunch came to this capital of the slave trade because he was determined to launch america's new national museum on the remains of a ship.
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wouldn't be hard, so i called museums around the world and said, "okay, look, you must have some things. you must know where i can get some material." and everybody said, "nope." and they said to me, "well, lonnie, almost every slave ship was at the end of its life, so it's probably at the ocean floor." and then i got scared. then i thought, "well, i'm not going to be able to find this." >> pelley: mozambique island rises from the indian ocean, south of the equator. it was one of the points in what was called the "triangular trade"--goods from europe to africa, slaves to the new world, and cotton, gold and tobacco back to the old. in the 1400s, the portuguese were the first europeans to trade in slaves, and they became the largest, followed by the english, french, spanish and dutch. on mozambique island, the portuguese built a fortress that they called st. sebastian for the christian martyr who was captured, chained, and murdered in rome in the year 288.
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only thing here the portuguese failed to grasp. you know, when you look at the enormous effort that went into building this fort, they were protecting something that was hugely valuable to them. >> bunch: they recognized that the key to their future as nations with economic prosperity was the slave trade. >> pelley: the fort oversaw the trafficking of more than 400,000 slaves. bunch was certain there had to be evidence of a ship, and he soon discovered he wasn't the only one looking. >> decio muianga: give me a hand. >> pelley: he found a group of researchers calling themselves the slave wrecks project, and they were following a promising lead. what do we find down here? >> muianga: a very interesting thing. >> pelley: decio muianga is a mozambican archeologist helping the slave wrecks project locate the beginning of the story. >> muianga: this is a tunnel that was used to put slaves inside the island, or put them
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out of the island, as well.
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