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tonight on "wodfocus" -- war words. cretary of state hillary clinton says north koa has no friends left and must dismtle its nuclear ogram. whileorth korea fires back by saying it'no longer going to negotiate about it. in south africa olent clashesreak out between police and township residents tonight we lk more closely at one of the causes. xenophobiaa deep-rooted anger agnst foreigners. >> we contue our new segment
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cald "how they see it." tonight questionof torture at aburaib prison as reported by al jazra english. d a story from down under on how a big earthque last week has manag to bring australians d new zealanders closer together, literally. good evening. i'm martin savidge. for months now, thenited states s been lobbying hard for north korea to end i nuclear progm. and as she has traveled throughout asia this wk, secretary oftate hillary clinton has essed the point. theopic has been front and center at e gathering of 27 countries attenng the asean regional conference in thaind. but rth korea hasn't much appreciated what it been
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hearing in fact, an even ntier war of wordhas broken out between the o countries. that w of words between north korea and the united ates over the nuclear impse is our lead cus tonight. in the latest twist inhe deteriorating relationip beween the u.s. and north korea, north korea hasnnounced it's pulling out of negotiaons end its nuclear program. >> translator: until america deep-seatedanti-nth korea attitude es, all of ese probls will continue, and becau of that, the six-party talks are also ove >>speaking with reporter at th conclusionf this week's asian regional conference in thaild, the north kore delegate said strong-arming by the united statesas to blame. >> translator: we are not against notiations. have never been against talking. but how can you talk whenou ve a knife at your back? >> just momts later, secretary inton met with the press. again, shdemanded that north
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korea honor its previous commitment to abdon its nuclear bitions. >> we doot intend to reward the north for just turning to th table. we will not gi them anything new for aions they have already aged to take. and we have no appetite for pursuing protracted notiations that will only lead right back to where we havelready been. >> charles armstrong is a professor of korean studieat new york's combia university. >>well, north korea at this time seems mere more determined an ever to pursue nucle ambitions seems to be what haens happening internally north korea the appearance of thellness of the great leade and the rise inhe hard-liners on the se. >> the tough talk beeen the two counies didn't end there. today north korereleased a statent attackinsecretary clinton as "funny" and criticizing r appearance, coaring her to a tiree on a shopping trip. north rea's personal attack on
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mrs.linton is seen by many as a response to this remark she made in india on monda >> we, what we've seen is this constant demd for attention. and maybe it's theother in me or the experiee that i've had witsmall children and unruly teenagers and peoplwho are demandinattention. don't give it to th. >> this week'scrimony has left some wondering if thtwo countriewill ever be able to resolve their difference diplomatically. >> ifhis connues, we could have a situatio escalatng out of cotrol, which wou be a real disasteror the whole region of northeast asi if both sides are ale to come back to a negiating oint, then w mighte able to resolve is peacefully, at least in t short term. >> ve president biden also has been onhe road this week on an assignment thathe kremlin no
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doubt isatching carefully. earer this week, biden was in the former soviet public of ukrain today he visited another former soviet republicgeorgia, which has beenrying to get adtted to nato. a ve the kremlin strongl opposes. today, biden spoke bere the georgian parliamt and offered reassurances about wasngton's recent overtus to russia. >>adies and gentlemen, i know th some are concerned and i understand it that our eorts to reserelations with russia will come athe expense of geoia. let me belear -- they hav not, they will not, d they cannot. russia and cha once again ha gotten together for joint military exercises they're being coucted in china ang china's border russia's far east. the two countries say t exercises are digned to simulate attack on terrorist songholds and increase stabili in that region of the world. we have more night on a stor e've been watching closely f you, the rapiddvance of the h1 virus around the world.
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in britain, where the nuer of cases h doubled in the past week to an eimated 100,000, the government day launched a telephone hotline and website to ansr the public's questions about t disease. how mucconcern is there? well, the website is repoedly receiving 2,60hits every second -- 9 million everyour -- and it befly crashed. the disease has also spread th middle east, and today arab health nisters meeting in cairo banned children, the elderly and peop with chronic illnesses from aending the hajj,he annual pilgrimage t saudi aria for fear of spreading the disease. one other note from the middle east. a vivid example of how technology is sweeng the globe. the western or wailing wall,n jerusalem w has its own address twitter. it will, as e associated pss tels it, allow believers aroun the globto have their prayers tweeted, printed out a placed between the wall's 2,000-yr-old stones without leaving their armchairs. some are calling ia shortcut
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to g. speaki of twitter, you can tweeus your ideas about what we should talk about o tomorrow's "worlocus" roundtable whether it's afghastan, iraq, swe flu, or something else, tell what matters most to you. and, if you don't twitte then you can go about it the old-fashionedway, send us an e-mail via our wsite. that's worfocus.org. and now to south africa, where unhappiness about shoddy servic led to unrest today. it happened in some of t townships near johannesburg. pracde jntob zuma warned them to respect the law but an timated one million families live in shacks whout power and ve limited plumbing. and many blame immigrants fo taking jobs thatight lead to a better life. desche welle has our report.
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>>reporter: police used rubber bullets to drive protesters back in the small eastern town ball four. their anger was largedirected at iitials but immigrants wre also targeted. the police just imagined to rescue a group of somalis and ethiopians fromhe stone-throwers. the townships areem to suth afica's poores many compla thatfter 15 years ofnc rule, they're still waiti for improvements in their lives. >there's no development. there's no job creatin. >> translato there are so many problems here that stem fm pover. our cldren are educated t umployed. >> repter: amid such pressures, migrant workers quickly become scapegoatsor e lack of employment possibilities. dnesday aeps xenophobic violence is a worrying reminr of last year's attackn zim
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bbins refugees. police have nce bolted their press inhe township. >> that'seutsche welle. which brings us tour signature sty. a much deeper ok at xenophobia south africa today's violen was actually justhe latest incint in a series of attacks against immigrants ithat country. among south africa'soor unemployed, e resentment runs deep against them. last summer, violence flaredn other townshipoutside johannesburg. and by the timet was over, 100 people were dead an200,000 displace our story,y correspoent martin seungal, first aired earlier this year. >> reporter: it looks a sounds like the old days in south afric afca, the kind of anger once directed at the opessive white govement. >> we should kill them. they are shou die. >>eporter: but this was just last week, athe anger was directed ablack people, fellow
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africans, from zimbabwe, nigeria, somia and elsewhere, who have come om south africa hoping to find abetter life. it s called xenophobic violence, fear othe foreigner. foreigners had their businesses destroyed, houses were torch. thewere killed th guns and machetes. somewere even set on fire, buned alive. e death of ernesto mozamcan, shook the nation and shocked the wld. within t weeks, t violence had spread across thecountry. it took a massive deployment of security forces to bring tngs under cotrol. by e me it was over, 100 j people were de. an estited 200,000 people were splaced. some too cover in police stations. others found refuge in isolated camps. thekind of refugee camps you'd normally find in war-to somalia, sudan or the congo.
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started, we e told, in alexand alexandra, a straprawling black township on the ed of johaesburg. >> a maname from this site. he was running and bleedin and went ov here and then he lost balance over re, andthen he died oer here. >> reporter: you sa this? >> yeah, isaw that. >> reporter: there has ways been an undercurrent of anti-forener sentiment i this country, but the level of the attacksnd the intensity of the violence is unprecedented,and thre is a common theme here, that allccurred in south africa's poorest townships. alex, as it is called, one of the poort. this woman lived here her wle life. >> they takejobs. >> reporter: what do you ink, is thatrue? yes. >> repter: they take jobs? >> yes. >> reporter: which contries, zimbabwe? >> zimbwe, niria. especially ziabwe. >> reporte you'll hear the same story wherever yu go, they
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are ting our jobs. and in southafrica, it is a very big deal. this is a cuntry of about 50 million people. official estimaes put the unployment rate atbout 30%, but evyone knowsit'sreally closer to 45%. add just over 5illion foreigners, many herellegally to the equation, all trying to make a living, too, and you've got a recipe for resentment and conflict. >> these are people who live in very poor neighborhoods who are comping for resources, and in situations like hat, it'sasy tocapegoat the forgner, the stnger, the other. d that's precise what happened. >> porter: immigrants are repared to work f less mone in ma cases, they will get the job over a southafrican. shepherd, a teaer from zibabwe, has seen it happen before.
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>> mostly foreigners are hard working d also on the side of educati education. >> reporter: shepherd is living in an overcrowded room at the methodist church, right in the middleof downtown johannesburg. et he is a refugee. there are over2,000 people here. they sleep on the floor or the stawell ratherhan risk turning to the townships. >>'m so scare i don't even wa to go anywhere >> porter: it has been near a year since t killings, but they're stiltoo afraid, litelly, to move. nody in this group nts immigrants re. >> soe says they should be beaten up. he sai they should be. >> rerter: this woman speaks
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up and says se isarried to one and defiantlyells the crowthat foreignershould not be attacked. that provokes arywords. she dides to leave. we are told se is lcky to have escaped. has been quie across th country for months, t the threatof more xenophobic violence is as rl today as it waa year ago. f "worldcus," i'm martin seemungel in alexandria township, south afca. >> for more abouthe unrest in soh africa -- and the violence against immigrants- we're oined once more by yaw nyark he is a profesr of economics new york university. welco back. >> thankou. >> how bad is the situati would y describe in these tnships in south africa? >> okay, so i think is portant first to s to your viewers that south aica i a very beautiful ountry. i mean, many of thecities, houses thee, they look like cifornia. the townips are where large numbersof blacks live.
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it's a carryover fom the aptheid days when everybody was put apart, if you will. and, yes, very crowd, problem with using. e administration nce '94 has but about 3 millio you now, structures r the blacks there. but sll therere about 1 million people ling in shacks, living on top o each other. no water, no electricit yes, so, there a sections of it wch are very, very bad. >> how does that translate into a hred against immigrants? >> yes, so i think there u should understand that the unemployment rate in south aica is very hig and so the foreigrs are being blamed for taking the jobs unfairly so but that's a huge pa of the resentment, okay. >> that's a fae perption? >> that's a fals perceptn. thre are relatively small nuers of the 100,000 mozambicans.
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100,000 zimzimbabweans, andhere are bigg issues. when something as difficu as unemployme hits the country andthey are trying explain it away, th look f scpegoats. >> we e now 15 years since the end of apartheid. is there a sense of disillusionment angst blas south africa toward the blk goverent? >> well, i think the zuma administration, cob zuma himse, is a vry sklful litician. ry, very charismatic andtill very well lod. so lot of trotests right now are actually inhat city government, ok. andhose that provide the services in the townships. so far, as r as ican tel he stl remainsvery, verypopular in south africa. >> and has the econocrogress south africa been impacted by the global enomic downrn? oh, yes. uth africaas an autobile industry, whichs suffing. mining, e prices are almost all commodities have gonedown,
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and that's had a bi impact on the economy. but of all of the countes in africa, i think sth africa has good chancef seeing itself thugh it. >> yaw nyarko, a pasure. >> thankou, too. tonightwe want to bring you another examplef our new featur "how they see it." the miseatment of prisoners at abu ghraibas long since faded om the headlines here. but today, al jazeera enish featured whait called an exusive. an intervi with a man it identified as a formeretainee who sayse witnessed torture there. when you watch th report, think about its effect on ho the united states iviewed world. alazeera english told us it is being broaast in more than 100 countries and more than 0 million househds around the gle. mowsabahsim reports.
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>> reporter: tse are far mor than disturbiimages, they are memies. >> translator: the momt we arrived a fele soldier told us to ke off our clothes. we were forced tobe naked. it was winte they dresse in orange jump suits. >> reporter: mahmo, a telision cameraman was on his way to wk when he wasstopped here at a u.s. checkpoint . >> tnslator: we were wearing press badges. i had aatellite phone and a came. the soldier called his base and then frced us to the gund and said youjournalists are all rrorists. i saidno, we're professional, we're human. but he hanuffed us and to us away. >> he wa held in agu gre britain for or three months. he livedn fear and witnessed many cases of torture. >> translator: this detainee was tortured in front of my eyes, only three mers from my cell, tortured byogs to confe to a crime he never committed.
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>> reporter: mahmd said the guards would deliberately abuse and intimidate prisoners inull ew of other nmates, and he remembers one incidentn particular. >> translator: spent almost ree days staing in that position. whenever he collapsed, they would force him up aga and en he would fl again and so on. >> reporter: and he also remembers his tormenters. >>ranslator: the americ fema soldier, the one iheard has bn convted, would come to us. she would tell me go shower,nd i wod refuse. dhen she wou strip me my clothes and pr fezing water on . it was the mide of winter. it w so cold. d e would take pictures of me naked. >reporter: he eps a memento of his tme in abu ghraib. >>his ishe bracelethey gave me i kept it, evenfter i s released. >> reporter: a physical rinder of a ple he can never forget, and images at the wor will not forgetither.
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the possible mistreatnt of prisoners in afghanistan s also been in t news lately. a recent "new york mes" report described how, sev years ago, inveigators for the ston-based group physicians for hum rights discoveredhat appearedo be a mass grave in northern afghanistan. thesehotographs were taken by the group. the bodies, they were tol were those of talan fighters who d been rounded up by northern alliance forceshortly after the s. invasion in 2001 and uffed into metal shipping contains for transport a nearby prison. by theime they arrived, allegedly hundreds, perha thusands, were dead from suffocation. otrs were shot by umped and their bodi d in this field. the episodreceived in media tention at the time, but waspe largelforgotten until earlier thimonth when "the new york times" ran a front-pe article reportg, bush administration officials repeedly discouraged efrts to investigate the episod according to government officials and human rits organization because e northern alliance
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forces that allegedly commted the actad been under the comand of the general abdul ashid dostum, an ally of the u.s.and afghanresident hameed rzai, who received support from the military and t cia. and a salon.com column yesterd reported allegations by me afghan detaies that american milita personnel may have been present during the massacre now, for more on all of ts, we are joined by susanh sirkin, deputyirector of physicians for human rights, the gup that diovered the mass grave. thank you for joining us. president obama said recently on cnn that he has ask his security tm to investigate the facts of this case. what do you think will the results of that investigation? >> well, pysicians for human rits certainly hopes th it will be a thorough invtigation. ideall conducted by attorney general holder into what happened there and as well of the role ofu.s. forces. >> "the new york times as we just sd, was covering this storyxcite exnsively. dyou think that theyhave
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reported it accurately from what you know? >> a lot of "e times" story ported dcovery of the site and initial investigations by hu physicians f human rice called for the invtigation for years. ut what we learnrom "the times" is there were three parate federal investigatns that were impeded by bush adinistration officials. >> these would have bn attets by someone in the u.s. government toook into the matter and it gets stopped b a higher auhority. >> yes, at's what we leaed from thstory, thatn fbi agent rported on algations of t crimes that wre committ in this incident at guantanamo, d that was spped,as well as efforts by senior official a the national security council, who presented the u.s.ar crimes ambassador from going up a investigating for the state department. >> and the mass gravese itself, what do we kw? how is it bing preserved,if t all? >> well, what's extremely
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sturbing for physiciansor human rights is had a colleague who saw a year ago when he was able to go up ere holes in the ground and subsequently we were able to secureatellite imagery that shows earth moving equment in 2006 on e site, apparently making holes in the ground and removing earth. we would like to kw what happenedith that. >> do u know who or what their intent was? >> no, and that's one of the asons, along many, is t reason a fl investigation is required. we don't know who tamperedith the evidencend we don't know where the earth was moved or what was in it. >> of course, the ama administrati is dealing with a very complex issue going on in afghanistan. you have a war that's being waged. you have a humanitarian eort at the sameime. are you worrd at all this cod compromise the american position the? >> well, everye knows in afghistan about this atrocity. and what would be to oba's
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advantage isf we were able to show the afghan people an the american peoplend the world that we have new policy, and that we wil look atrimes like this, incling accepting our own responsibility. >> uzannaih circumstancen, thank you very much fospeaking with us. >> thank you. > finallytonight, we ordinarily would not ma light of a story about an earthquake. butappily last week's powerful quake off the cst ofew zealand didt cause any deaths or injuries and it reallyidn't even causeome damage either. and e report that our partners at abc ausalia filed about it hads thinking more about carole king than els or jerry lee wis. ue, thereas a whole lotta shakin' goingn, but as e put it, the quake actually made t earth move under their fee kerri richie repos.
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>> reporterthe quake moved for kis when a 7.2 magnitude quake struck. but thethey were dealing with the aftershock at their country moved closer ausalia. >> that's bit too close. u want to go further away. i woun't trust thos australia. >> reporter: t quake was the rgest to hit new zealand almost 80years. scntists say the tremors twsted the south island and shove the country's most wistfuy fought point 40 centimete near to australia. >> there's a lo of exciment about theact that we're getting closer to australia. but we have been gettingloser to ausaliaor a long time. >> reporter: new zealand usuly only moves about 3 1/2 centimetersn a year but in a matter of seconds,his quake has shoved this tny town 10 centimeters tards auralia. the blu downhe south island moved centimeters and down east on the east coast, has been knowlged a september meter. scientists sa the tremor affecte the alpine ult, which lies 50 kilometers offshore and
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another big que could occur any time >> at me parts, the pressure's en increased and some part decreased. it's lely that the place where the pressure's ben increased, that might rupture, a new rupture might stt there. >> reporter: but new zealands aren't too worried. some kiwis are excited abt beingearer to their neighbors. >> i'm not bhered by that. they're n thatbad. reporter: so those more concernedake comfo in the fact there's ill more than 2,000 kilometers of sea sepating the two countries kerri richie, abc new auklan >> a uly movng story. tt's "worldfocus" for this thursday. a reminder to visitur webte at worldfocus.g. you can weig in on the topics for tomorr's rondtable. dan rather, by the way, will be joining us for that. i'martin savidge in new york. aalways, thank you for joining us. will look for y back he again tomorw and any time on theweb. in the meante, have a good ght.
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