tv Inside Washington PBS July 25, 2009 6:00pm-6:30pm EDT
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>> >> what do y think when you see a tree? a treatment for ncer? alternative fuelfor our cars? doou think of hope for the environment, or food, clothing, shelter? we do. weyerhaeuser, growing ideas. if you don't set deadlines in thisown, things don't happen >> thiseek on "inside washington," the nate this is the president's health care
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deadline. in the house the blue dogs have their day. >> we are speaking for a silent majority within thedemocratic caus. the amican people want us to slow down and get it rig. >> the cambridge poli acted stupid i arresting somebody when there was aeady proof th they were in their own home. a distinguished harva scholar arrested in his own home. wait stupidity, race, or a righteous bust? also, a controversyf concealed apons bl misses in the senate. >> the 58-vote mority in the nate is a posive step anwe will be ba to take to0. i promisyou that. >> the journalist was once the most trusted man inmerica dies. >> gooevening fromthe cbs ening news center in new yor captioned by the national captioning initute --www.icap.org--
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despite a the president's very definite wishes to hav a health-care bill by august 7, nate majority leader har reid ys it is not going to happen. he says its better to get a product bas onuality and oughtfulness and to just get something throh. speaker pelosi says she's not afraid of augu. it is just a month. in an interview with abc, the president tried put the best face on it. >> gin therogress that i am seeing a, as long as evybody is working steadil as fasas they can, particularly the sete finance committee which i think is the comttee that a lot of folks are waiting for -- ifhat gets done before the august reces i feel pretty good. >> the president says that if you do n setdeadlines in this wn, things don't happen. but even if you do set deadlines, things do't happe. wherdoes health care go from here? >> augt is n fal by any
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mes. thidea that bill clinton passedhis tax bill befe august ronald reagan passed his. at t end of this august, by everystimate, there wi be 433,000 americans who have lost their inrance in that month, anprobably another 0,000 americs who have lost their jobs, too. the sse of urgency will still be with us. but don't think there's any question th the whi use, the admistration, supporters feel that time gives the opposition a chance to snipe. the president d not he a great week. the press conference took all e air out of the room. encyclopedic answers, too lo, like this one -- [laughter] at no ener. >> i don't think itas as bad a week as alot of people think.
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i thi winning the f22 ve was signifant. i think it is unfortunate that they could not get a bill done, ateast out of theouse and the senate, by august. you might lay somof the blame at the feet of the chairman of the senate finance comttee as well as the esident. but tnk the president, when they come back, or en over the break, is going to have to knock so heads together so that come ptember, there is a bill. >>he proem is not a ttical issue. is tt this wee rhetoric met reality. the president hol a press confence in which speaks for an hour ande promises us more coverageexpanded coverage,ecure coverage, lifetime ofoverage, cannot ever ny you coverag at no cost. yes, a cple of millionres will payn extra stax. it is obviously impossible. he numbers don't add up. e cbo had a fata blow what it said iwould cos$1rillion.
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thats a problem thatno one can solve, and unt it is soft there wl not be anythg near a bill >> far be it for meo take all e joy out of what charles just said, but for annouing health ca reform dead is premature by the end of the year, you'll get something. you hav a five commite chaien still working to produce a bill. it is the nature of things that all theey issues stt to come to head. now ty he to come to grips with the ha part, the cost. evening out t cost curve is gog to be difficult,ut everybody knows that. the thing that will be a huge backlash -the thing is th there wi be a huge backlas against cgress if they failo do somethi about health care this year, and they knowhat. that is why they are working. even the majorndustry groups are behind some form of health re reform. >> but he is having trouble not only with republicans, but
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democrats. >> but the blue dogsre right that if you do not do something about cost, at about the way be structured medical care, t have guidelines so that the ctors cannot prescribe tests an leslie andepeat tts and buy new equipment all the tim -- if you don't do something abouthe way we sicter medical ce, there not enough money in the united states of america to pay forit as theears go out. >> two quick points -- five out of six aricans have health insurance. threout of four of them, acrding to survey aer sury, are satisfied rather than dissatisfd with their health coverage. what you have t do is convince those pele not only that we have to cover the uninsured, but th is going to be an improved system, a that theyare not going to be broken bit. i think whe the predent -- i
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think he has been trapp, quite honestly, i did cbo numbers. he has to ke the case that this is not just looking the een eyeshade members of the goverent's, it is th economy. health care is kling the economy is not just knocking the budget. that is thecase he has to make. quite honestly, it is up to the president to do it, and i think he missed a golden opportunity this past week. >> but t president aues tha healthcare is kling the economy, the costs are, and he is right, absolutely right. nd then he proposes heah care reform that the o is telling us is gog to add $1 trillion. you do not cut costs by addg $1rillion. that is the central contradictio. all the tactical sff is irrelent. at the problem is tt in order too that, eve if you make it revenueneutral, as obama has spoken about, it does nosolve the prlem. if heal care today is
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destroyinthe economy because of the cost, renue neutraly leadus on the same trajector to insolvency and ruin that obama himself has said is going on. oy the know nothings are arguing for the stat quo. what you have now -- >> i have got ideas. >> even t fiscally conservative blue dots are trying toget their piece, too. they want medicare reimbursement cost to be handled for tir role conituents by the congress. everybody has a piece of the action that they wanted the president ought to com in and reconcile all of this, and it ll haen by the end of the year. it has to. >> the proem with just lking at theudget ishat it is the classic example of knowing the price of everything and th value of nothing. if you loo at what we spendn public education, he woulday that it is ler. but its an investment in ou economy and our people and it
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pays handsome divides. >> let me give you an index of how unsious all this reform is. e presidentpoke forn hour. did you hear one word on tor reform? everybody here knows that we are ying exorbitant amounts because of a completely inne malpracte system. a neurosurgeon who opens an fice in philadelphia s to pay about $200,000 per year on insurance alone, and who ys? you pay and i y. md -- every ctor knows how much testing and procedures are a way t prevent a lossy. why don't democratthink about ? -- why don't democratspeak about ? because tri lawyers around them -- own them. >> if the patient -- if the neurosurgeon screws up, doe't a patit's family have legal
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recourse? >> there is no fference between states thatave a cap, like tex, and states that do not. >> when jay rockefeller, a democr, says he is being priced out of the democratic process, you have prlems with yo own party, don't yo >> he was quite itical of the chairman. >> of max baus. >> he is the chairman of the health subcommittee. he says the democrats including himsf, and systemacally exuded by in max baucus in a effort to entice republans and makehis a bipartisan. it wou be nic if was bipartisan,but in the final analysis, they have come up with bill. >> t repuicans, if y listeno jim dent and james half -- james inhofe, are saying that belong to the stak, the better it is for
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2010. >> charsrassley anmax baucus have established relationship butart of the relationship is that max baucus fold like a house of cards. at someoint, i do think, and i've said this before, tt obama hato get the key plers in,including se of hiown guys, and say, "re are some ings we have to d we will sit around a table, i will be back in half an hour." it will be li theiddle east netiations. >> i don't think ty are at thatoint yet. righnow it is very iortant for x bcus and charles grassley t come to terms on me issues that they can agree on. rockefeller has a righto fe piqued cassie is a member of the committee and not involvedin that. they will have to brin h in as wel but this is part of e legislate process. yohave to be able to establish what is going to be the critica mass around this ll.
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a lot of a ve difficult issu are going to have to be reconciled. you havto sign off on cost controls. you ve to -- >> you gohints ofhis in the obama press conference where he already,f you listen carefuy, is loong to a fall back. used the term fi tes, " health insuran reform," not " health care form." that means he may not be able to agree to the whole 1/6 of the american economy with a huge experiment in social engineering, which was plaed a. its not goingo happen. prepare for a bill athe end what will be heavy regulatn of insurance companies so tha you di not the pre-exiing insurance -- pre-exisng conditioequirements and all that. e other thing -- he said he would not impose a tax in which the burden fel primarily on the middle class. up until now, he said he would but nothing on the mile class.
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i think that was a hit to max baucus tha rhaps he will go along with some kindofaxing -- the health benefit you get in your employmen a $300 billion per year taxshelter if yogo afterhat he will have a re source of money. >> y will have to control medicare paymts, out of the hands of the congress come into the hands of prossionals. you have to dosomething to sure that at commissioner -- that that commission is apolitical. >> i have seen congrs reluctantlgive up thatind of power fore. going back to jim mint --e has a ft to president obama d those who want health care, because he has reducethis to a question of "let's t ama." nd so are all the journalists
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were talking aboutlet's kill this" and using that kind of language. they showed their hand. they'reot interestedin the pack at 47 milli americans to not have health insuran or that because it is trling. what they are interest in scoring potical points. theyhink they haven issue and they are wrong. >> we are ming sausages. is not pretty. the presint invols himself in local police matter. >> i do not believe his actio any w were raally motivate there is a long histy in this country of african americans d latinos being stopped by laenforcement disproportionate. that does not less the incredle progress that has en made. i am standing here as testony the progress that has been made. >> youan buy shirts in cambridge, massausetts at res "e world's most
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opinionated anzip code." everybody seems have an inion about what happened i the cambridge, of t nation's most famous black schola as he was trying to get through his fron door. buit is a rare ent whenn american psident takes time off from anmportant news conferen to expre an opinion on an arrest tha occurred 440 miles from the whi house. neverthess, he did it. >> it s obably stupid to use the word "stupiy" apparently at the white hou ty antipated this question. i don't quitknow why heid that. i don't quite to this day, hang read the police report even, understanwhy the officer fe compelled to arrest professor gates, even if he was doing everything that the police reports said hwas doing. youave the right to act like a jerk in your own home. when they found out was not breaking in, i did -- why did't they jt leave?
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>> they op the charges against him. >> they dropped the charges against him becausehey cannot prove it. i read the piceeport, and thstate issued by professor dates- prossor gates' lawyer, charles ogletre and it seems that it was stupidn the rt of thepolice, once the establish th professor gates was the occupant of t home,t was time f the police office to say "thank you" and leave the prises. what hpened? professor gates, in my view, committed the sin that affected african-amican males since they arrived on ese shores -- heade the mistake of tting uppity with that whe man. when you get uppity, theyunish you foit. if he had said, "sir, may i please have your badge, numr and your ne, please," he mht
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have gotn it. i belie that professor gates did ask for it ande saithe things t the police officer about the police officer's mama that set him. >> but the police officer haa good recor >> do not have to be a racist have himlf act like a jerk >> i am not applyi th r-word. you have a right to act like a fool, as nina said, iyour own home hy do i have to behave in front of a police offer my own home how do you become disorrly in your o home? >> i have en disorderly iny home. everything that colbyaid is prefad wh "i believe tt
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is happeneat." everybod believes x ory happen but nobody knows three people were in the om. it was a hispanic offer who seems support the evidence o the whitofficer. >> the blue code. >> well, tha is what yo think, but you don't kn it. >> if we h to say what we know on the sw, we woulbe unemploy. [lauter] we offer opinions. >> onlike us, who g cash for opinions whout knowledge, th president's speech and it has an effect on the couny. that is thdifference. we can go off ontuff that don't know. he cannot and he should t. >> i think theresident stepped on his own story. he went for 57 minutes on health care, this urgenand primary sue, and what dinates the ne? the ges affair. i woul submit that, fst of all, t police officer's name
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is james crowley, and he ds teach raal priling to black and white officers and has bn retain by black officers to teach racial profiling. the cbridge police department, according toortheastern criminologists known for racial rofiling, as one ofhe best records in dealing he is not sheriff jim cla. this is not bowl conor. -- bl connor. did he lose his temper when pushed and berated? i think that is distinct possibity. i would ggest that less than race, this is about per. this is powerful person taking on -- >>which one is the powerful person? >> ges is e powerful person. >> thought the person with the gone on as it was e powerful person. is little short guy melts f at him --
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>> anyone s in a night tchman -- >> he gets uppity -- >> >> have you have anybody said you "do you know who am?" that would set anybody off. >> so why i' been called up when i had theemerity to act like i he some sense. -- what i've bee called uppity what i have theemerity to a like i he some sense. it added. in a black offer this would never have happened. the w the officerwalked into theouse, the way he asserted himself, it bs for the kind of response he got, and knowt. i know i asob dole said, "you know it, i know it, thamerican pele kn it." >> police have ormous power and they usually do not like getting challenged, but th should be trained enou to
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deal witit. >> there was a report ofwo ople trying to knock a do down thout a key and the police officers shot. >> but when they establishhat he liveshere, he should leave. >> but thene follows him ou and berates him -- >> this means timeut. thank you. the national rifle aociation is oy two votes away from americans being able to carry apons from state to state. >> someone able -- someone convicted of assault odrunk drivinwill be able to carry a gun to most any place of america, exce, i should point out, the halls of congress, which barsire arms from feral buildings. if you want an example of a congressional hypocris it woulbe tough to beat this. >> new york mayor michael bloomberg. the senate ce within two votes of pasng nator john thune' ll allowing gun owners to
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carry weans across state lines. the bill was 58-39. 20 democts voted for it. this me on the hee of the national rifle sociation viory that allows gu owners to carry conceal weapons i national par, a major change in gun laws in the nati's capil. according to the brady campaign, in 2004, handgun murdered people in the ited kingdom and 11,300 people in the united states. we have more people in t united state >>n britainthey all die of bad teeth. aughter] thiswill surprise you, but i would hav voted agast this. ur gun culture is total out of contr. have gun, d't travel. ifou want ng out in a bar texas anuse it, that is ok. but each state has its own conditions. rur states, i can understand u want to have aun.
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thatis ok. you n be attked by a moose, u never know. but it is not going to happen in manhaan. let' respect states' rights fedelism, and not impose on them a unified stem. >> if you arein cgress and you have a gunnd you don't want to travel, don't mess with thera if you want to stay in congress. >> this was a pretty craven a vote. this was a set up. senator thunewas reduced to arguing for t rights of truckers. itas set up to be used in campaignso that democratsare foed to walk the plank, and i'm glad that somef them were lling to bre the sotomayor code is a bit the same. -- of th were willing to. the sotomayor votes a bit the same. the nra didotinitially come out against her. they said they were concerned there was nothing new in the hearings. but it was tting pushe by i former president and the gun owners of america, w did come
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outgainst r, and there were getting pushed hard for not being aggressive enough. n they are opposing her, and they are stori the vote, aning they are using it a a key vote in telling voters th this is a guy you should support or woman you shou support or t. >> india is the most revealing the vote in thisntire gun dete. evan bayh, erstwhile democratic presidential candidate, voted with the gun folks, and richard lugar, a fmer chairman of the foreign retions committee, one of thewo republicans who opposed it. michael bomberg, the mayor of new york, put his finger on it. if you reallwant to do it an you really bieve in this that anybody ought to cay a gun, and let them carry one in the dirkn senate office building. see how they react tothat one when some loony sws up th a
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pistol under hisnapsack. >> after hearingll this, i think i ought to be on t other side. keep it up, guys. >> the nra is going to come back againith something else. they look at t vote that they want. -- they will get the vote that they want. they are le the air. th are always with us. >> walter cronkites gone. hard to believe that >> i feel so terrible about walter's death that i canardly say anythin he has beesuch a good friend over the years >> ay rooneyof "60 minutes." they met i ldon, reporters going on bombing raids in world war ii he seeme like such an oinary guy. why was hesuch a powerl factor in erican journalism? >> i think because he presided ov and connected us in the great tumatic and glorious moments of that time. in the first time american hiory, beginning with the nnedy assassination the moon
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shot as a corast, he had a sense of community in the continental nation. he was the one who d it and that is why he remainstrongly in o memory. >> he had a progm cled "you arehere," about g hisrical evts. that iwhat he did for all of us. in real life, we were there for him. >> he put there. >>he put us tre, but he did not do it as an advocate. he did it righ >> he was the gold standard, a i salute himor that. he was rorter firstand it was alys in him. >> we will miss him. that is the way it is. thanks. see you nexteek. for a transcript of this broadcast, logn to insidewaington.tv. c
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