>> >> welcome to the broadcas we continue our verage of the crical debate taking ple in the congress on health care reform with setor jay rockefeller, democrat of west rginia who signatureon the senate finance committee. you can't put another insurance coany out tre one that doesn't have to make profi or pay attention to wall street just pay atttion to coumers, eir needs and have lower costs. >> charl: we contie with conversations about movies with arlize theron and guillermo arriaga. >> whether y do 20 films every

time is a new experience and you'll eitr fail or not but u can't -- 's like a relationship. you can't enter that relationship not have 100% trust. you just can't. >> we're very optistic becaus the end people whogo they always have a hope and they always have chances to redeem themselves. >> charlie: the health care debate i washington and all about mies when we condition. >> charlie: additional funding for "charlie ro" was als profided by these fuers.

captioning sponsored by rose communication from ourtudios in new york city, this is charlie ro. >> charlie: we begin thi evening witthe ongoing debate of health carereform. present obama attded a rally of mostlyoung pele. it was the administtion's latest effort to restore public suppt for a democtic overal the health care system a he said coness h taken many meaningfulteps towards reform. >> the good new is we're closer to reform than wee ever been after debatg the iss for the better pt of a year there's four out of five committees in congress haveompleted their work. yesterday theinance committee

put out its own bill. each bill has its strengths and silarities between tmnd our ovallfforts have bn helped by groups, businesses drug companies even. most importantly doctors and nurses are supporting is effort. i've also saidhat o of the options in the insuran change should be republins. t me be clear it, would only be an option. no one would be forced to choose it. no one with inrance would be fected by it but what itwould do is provi more choice and more cpetition and put pressure on privateinsurers to make policy a picies afford and

bett. >> charlie: setor jay rockefelle ckefeller joins me w after meetin with presidt obam obama d meetgs with about health care reform. i'm eased to ha him. welcome. >> thank yo charlie. thank you veryuch. >> charlie: tell me where were at this moment we record this broadcas at 7:28. >> we're not thereyet. e 80% tt the president mentned may be a little bit high right now. that maybe too optimistic but thiss the fir meeting we've had just democrs because no republicans are voting for bill andwe're hoping we get ompia sne and wn we get closer to te than just give seches and

yo focus more and think with the people of your state more and health care policy and how it makes individual pele and faces come bore you and i think you do a bter job of legislating. nothat's very optimisticto say, let's see if it works during the amendment press in the finance committee is gng to have to be substantial and successful t make the bill substantially better tha it is. >> charlie: you'reot ppy th the bacas recommendaons. >> no, i said that and i sd i won't vote for it as it is today. her people said that in t meeting. you see, it isn't what it is today t what change us make in the amendment process and kning you'll have all republicanmaybe minus one voting against you. that c make it better and

hopefully something at i could vote for becse it's abetter product. >> charlie: are you ing to vote for bill tha doesn't include a pubc option? >> you know, would be rd-pressed too. i'd hard-pressed to. people say there two ways of looking at a public option, one the president just said very wellnd that is at it's not the government taking it over, it's not --t's just an entity. it doesn't give government money. haso get money fro its premiums from thpeople who deci to go with it and it' t going to have to make profit. it's a totally nonprofit insunce compan insurance enti and that in turn fors and people will come to understand this more and more as time goes by that it fors otheinsurance companies to lower the cost ofheir insurance. that's the whole point of it

you can't just p another insurance companouthere but one that doesn haveo make profit or pay attention toall reet just pay attention to consumers and they're needs and have lower coast coast lower co? >> charlie: and the quality wi be as goodhat's private companies. >> it has to be. the preside said that. >> wha if itdrives the prate coanies out of busess. >> it ll never happen. it's not just the president but otrs have said the congreional budget office it will never come close toriving the ant insurance companies out of business. now i hav my ments sometimes when i wish at would happen because of insurance practices.

this fellow fromigna came fore the congress committee and became a sort a folk her and taed about their responsibility and h responsibility too a he grew sick of from purgingpeople from the roles a finding -- this is overdramatic but it was truend someone hadcne when they were younger and therefore they don't qualify being insured. thingshat are horrific d always hapned in america an undethe radar. >> charl: is that gng to change >> you're darn rht it's going to have to change or it won't get my vote. >> charlie: do u believe there ll be health care reform in thiscongress, first question? >> iant very much to. charlie, you're askingme a favor question and'm not giving y a fairnswer but the best i c i hope so but iwill have to b tter product coming out of

nance. financcommittee has a particular kind a weight i alof this. then you say maybe it doesn't come outf fance committee so well b so what becse you can ha amendments on t floor and you conference with the house and get together. actual, it doesn'tork nearly as eilys it sounds. it's very hard with blue dogs in the house and if the use driv us to theeft you have to g 60 peopletoass this vote and some of them could drop of if we do get pushed too muc to theleft. 's all very delicate, 59-60 type process. hence t tension a hence the fun and the excitement. >> charlie: if you d't have the 60 do u have any problem with going a reconciliation? >> i don't. that alsoot easy because of the bird rule, senator robert

seberg my colleague whh means everything has to be paid for and that's a pots. i'm not denigrating th publicans but you know when you ha none of them voting f you -- withyou, it does make life a little harder and does make you more skeptical sing you have the hous senate and hous but when every single thing ishallenged or filibusteredwe have to get 60 votes whh means youot to ge more than we ha. 've got to get a republican or o republicans or not los two or three democrats who are particularly conservative. it's rd. it's hard stuff. >> charlie: one mocrat said that the proem is that democrats are being asked to support a bipartisan bill that

doesn't have any bipartisan suort. >> you sortf hit t nail on the ad, i fact you sort of nailed throu the floor. we have thestimulus bill which most democrats voted for a one republan and it was rerred to as a bartisan bill. u know, in truth in lendinit wasn't really correct on the vote in health cares with a republican vote than that republic vote is magnified in its size because couldn' hav got end the 6 votes withouthe republican vote. >> crlie: what does ompia snowe needs to g for this? >> don't know but she's the most popular rson on the floor the senate.

from the republica point of view s's the least popula i have endless sympath for her and i've seen her onhe floor taking tough votes tt siding withhe democrats and the pressure the republican caucus is able to bring on itsembers is something to democrat can understand. it'snteresting otherwise but substantivy. when clinton was president and they caused to discussolicy for two hours and he president came in an the george mitchell said respectfully, mr. president, we have our role, you have your role. you have your own role but we wa to discuss policy ande nt to do it as a legislative

branch, would you pleaseeave and it was somethi i'll never forget the presint and t cret service hustling t of the democratic officeroom but that's separation of powers. now dick eney on theother hand nev misd a republica caucus hence the terrible pressure when we we investigating were ther chemical weapons inraq a all of it as far as health care reform. >> charlie:as itnevitable because health care was so tough it wou be this wayr have there be otherudgments made earlier that would he made this smooth sailing? >> pbably but that's not where we are. >> charlie: exactly. >> i'm not going to worry aut that legislating a controversial subjects and legislati health

care, above all including military policy is complex. it is possible to say with all respect to my lleagues there probably aren't more than ten percent of theongress and house and senate that uerstand e weeds of health care. what you really do have to understandt a deep level in order make good public poli. bad public policy butou have to know what you'realking about. >> chaie: some argue a lot of republicans don't nt to see health care reform because ty think the president would befit and his party significantly inhe next congressional ections. i think that is a very strong factor. a ry strong factor. and i hate to say that because i

am very at reachg across the aie and everything i'vbeen able to do isecause i've bn able to do with republicans so i hate to make a statement lik at but it'sthe nature of the -- all t things going on, all the presidentsprograms, e recession, people being angry, peop not having work, people not liking congress, not trusti government, whe still government plays a major rolen thr lives. i mean, i say to people you get governme out of health carry say you want medicare to go? you nt dicate to go and the v.a. system disappear but pele don't have to ok at it that way. they can have feeling and can silify the feelings cause it's easiero have atrong negative fling. >> crlie: the bill tha might get through ts coness will

satisfy -- will be 70% of what jay rockefeller wanted to see and what do you thi that y waed that y think nownlike to be ere? >> let me give youcouple exples in a time when medare is being stretched and the medica trust fund is going start declining in the year 2017 which is likeext week in the world of health care, i don't likeongress peoplen the house or the sete makg decisions of how muca hospital for doctor is r reimbursed for the servic they ovide because it makest political. there are 14,0 lobbyist has it work on health care. that was tru ring the clinton health care bills d true today and th all represent one littleiece of health care and that go after tt health care and they can only go ck to

their bosses and s i'm doing my job if theyet anincrease. it's totally the wrong way. the question is at's important in health care. how should you --we need to have me people who are geriatricians because amera is geing older and they tin to do that and they owe so muchor their certificationnd do a few yea and go in something else to make more money. i won't try to explain it but it'sed m it's dpack a group of official has it knohealth carepolicy cold. they don't give a ho about lobbyists anthey can mak these decisions, how much do u reimbue a hospital, not just fee-for-service which we neeto art gting away from but reimburse themn terms of how

are they'reoutcomes. how much recidivism ando pele need to return to hospitals docrs because they didn't do the job rht i the first ace are they spending toouch on mris because it a prestige thing when y can do the same thing with a pet sn. thiss where professiols who are ddeetached from policy. and gl dski and they all trust her a so do i and he's reblican and she knows it cold and you get them to beef up sure staff to do the researc on what needs toe reimbursed at a higher te, same rate or maybe a lowerate, people n taking

advantage of medicare and i'll give you an exale. ophthalmologist. we did mething back in 1989 toll reduce specialtie and bring up primary careissions and obgyns andhat kind of thinandasers had bn invented to people were having their eyesight problems treated laser but t doctors were still charging what they used to charge whe they we doing procedures, operations o eyes. well, we stoed that. you have to sp that there isn't thatkind of extra money to throwaround. >> charlie: here's what's interesting to me,ou just heard the psident say ctors d nurses are in favor of this buyou are saying also that this health ce reform that you exct to see and hope to see and believe will go a long way

will change th way tse doctors practice medicine. >> i think th's true. >> charlie: and ey're in favor of that? it will makeheir life betr? >> yes. first all, we need tget away from fee-for-servicends the more you provide the mor es you get. >> charlie: therefore you get things you may or may not nd. >> that's correct. >> they did a survey in the journal of medine did a survey, extraordinary results, 20% of physicians, doctors in this coury want a sgle-payer system. >> charlie: 20%? >> and includin that number up to 8 are in favorf the public option. now explain that to me charlie? they want the stem to change. they want to chge. they want competition to become more cute. they want oversight to be more

penetrating to lea to better sults, better tcomes, all theshings which are subject to words people don't want to hear but which are really important for od health care. >> charl: he one issue see peop talki about and certainly people writing about health care is they think the numbers are just n going work. >> well, i mean, youknow, i don't have to accept at do i? that's w our bill in e senate which i'm not sisfied with you at theinance committee comes at about at $100 billi less tha what people we saying we'd do w we want to as they say bend the curve. save moneyndeduce deficit, redu debt over a period of

years. we'll haveo do that in many areas inrder to survive. that's the argument for efficiency and notaving fee for service. that's the aument for not ving intelligence oversight by in groupof calm professiona oversight what works and what doesn't d what doctors a doing a od job. we need more giatricians and obgyns andeal health practitioners andenters so t's give them more money as an intensive. that's the wayou use professionals and specifically don't use congress hoever's working on them and th's a lile unfair and unkindto say but if you have lobbyists working down long ough and you don't know howto argue back they'll probably do what they say because they make a good case it will be good for your

constituents they may be wro and i want lobbyis and ngressmen out of the process and i thinkhe prident agrees with this. >> charl: we know certain states orate more efficient than other and there are differences regions do you buy you ought to be able to buy your insance in any state you want to? no. i'll tell you exactly why and ll make some peoplin oklahoma m when i say this. i come from west virnia and so let's say i buy a heah insurance policy from a company in west virginia and our overite of health surance tends to be pretty good, prett rigorous. now suddenly i'm attracted t something oahoma because they put u a good sales jobn me or something. in oklahoma i bet they do hardly any relating at all, a i'm

sure i'll get a lot of letters for tt and i d't care. i think i' speing the truth. states are so uneven in the job they do it's betterou kp health insurance witn the contours of thstate understanding allhe companies that issu is are natiol. mo are naonal. and unrstanding also that as in alabama has been used 90% of all health insurances introduced and given, sold, by one mpany. ey can get away with anythg theywant. they can cut pele off, purge people out. find they d something in their background wch they didn't knowbout the sty of the fella at had gallstones and said he didn't ow anything about it and ty said he ha hiand hewas cut out. they do that charlie and they're incentivizedo find what' wrong with peop to chop them off thr rolls and ts rede

eir risk and makmore money. >> chaie: well -- >> it's hard business. it's a hard-eed business involving the most sensitive part, precio part of people's lives. >> charlie: when wl we know what bill we're going to see? how long's this going to take? >> i don'tare how long it's going to take to do i yowant me tosay it will be soon, next week or two months. i want it to be right. i want real improment in alth care and this if the senate process and fance committee and i have 17 i may offeand another 17 i may offer and others feel thisis myay and this is my chance not being part of the gang of six t introduce what i feestrongly about and tr to get suppt for it and if i carry a majority of the votes eve if it's just a majority o one my policy

prevails and becomes part of the senate nance package andthat the whole process could tak a couple months. >> you're not thrilled by the game are you? hang said all this, charlie, it's exhilaring and ith intellectually process and you're seeing e faces of families an nursing center and in-home care and ichanges. >> charlie: cuts to the heart of their existence. >> yes, and mbe cuts to the heart of what you feel.

>>harlie: thank you nator. hope we can do more of this and dot again soon but i thank you very much thisvening. >> thank you. >> charlie: j rockefellewill be invold intimately in th process. we'll be back in a momt. stay with us. >> charlie: charlize thero and guillermo arriaga are re. he's theoscarcar-nominated screenwriter andhey've teamed up for his debut,"the burning plains" here's a look at the film. >> i guess so. >> what are you talkg about? [ indiscernable ]

>> i don't understand >> yes or no? >> charlie: i'm pased to have charlize theron and guillermo arriaga at this table. >> thank you very much. >> charlie: how is the sft fr reenwriting to directing? >> one of the most enjoyable things've donein my life. part of the enjoynt is working with the tm and having the wonderl people behind and in front of camera make my jo very joyful. >> charlie: castg is a big part of it, isn't it? >> casting is a bigart of it and i enjoy. i like it because it's like having your wife pregnant and you don't knowhat your d's going look like. >> charlie: tell uabout the film. how y saw itnd wt is it

about that we should antipate? >> ihink this is a moviebout love. >> charl: you got me alrea. but not love in the kind of valente kind of ove, hear you know. >> charlie: right. >> intense lehat can hurt deroy and heal. love that can always open for someonand this is a story of of someone who wks through the destruion and has the ability to come back through love. >> charlie: these are the nds of stories y want to tell? >> i thi the movies i write are vyptimistic because in the en the people who go througdark packages they always have light, a hope and a chance to redeem themselves this is movie with the loss of identity and how slowly through

love, the love of daughter, friends, any kindf loveou can go back to. >> charlie this is also a nsual film and it's about passion. >> of course >> charlie: tell me your character, my dear? >> he did such a beautiful job. she is someby -- i'm a masse fan ofis write something the idea of getting a guillermo arriaga script was to me azing. >> charlieall right but te e sryecause this is is what's been written wn you first got the script a you knew his repution of being a brilliant screenwriter and he said he d one to read and yo had no met him and you thought this could be on re, word you use used was"a-hole." >> i would neve nome,charlie. >> charlie: and then i met him d i found out he was in fact

different. zmo >> he's okay. he's bit of an -hole. i knew i'd lovhis writing and love e script because there's a voic that he has ifou readbabble" and "21 grs" and others the's a voice i love. >> charlie: what's the voice? >> guillermo is one of e pele that i very rarelyworked wi directors or writer-dirtors who have such an innate natural understanding of theuman contion and it's effortless for him to understand human struggle, human strif and therefore he makes an amazing journey for human being to go with and to have dinner with this man w credible and i think that voice that kin of

story telling, like that he playwith time. like that it's nonlinear. i think he writes how humans think and i thk the stggle isonest and agre with him. i think there's beautif light and optomism in his stori >> charlie: u also lik a dictor that you get involved. >> i like effortless is what i like i gues i li sitting down with sobody and feeling that it's not a circle being pushed in a square. from the momen i metllermo it was effortless. effortless. when it's that,hat's what love is and what chemistry is you have to have that in order to feel like you can jump off a cliff with somody. >> charlie: th film is jumping off a clf? it has to be. peop are always like asking working with first-time directors and isn't that sca but youknow,hether you've done 20 films or not, every time is goingo be fferent, right? every time is going to be a n

experience and youe either going to fl orour n but yocan't -- it's ke a relationship. you can't enter that retionship not having 100% trust. you st can't. >> chaie: when you g scrip li this youook at the dicting and you're lking at the script. what elsare you looking at? at is it that makes you say, wow. >> i guess it's the thing that you n't look it, it's t thing that you fe. >> charlie: yeah. >> i tnk sometimes our smas n get in the way of making a choice you know and i tnk it's actuly -- i bring it full circle. it's about love. you can't rlly overthink love, right? when y fall in love with somebody there's a lot of things to consider, is this the right peon and looks at the problems but at the endf the day you can't articulat something -- >> charlie: it's not an equation orathmatics. >>nd that's thehing i look

for. >> charl: tell me aboutour character's transformation he. >> well, we meet -- not to give the opening way or me of th movie away -- >> charliebut get someone understanding so ty may want too to the theatre. >> the opening to this film is my favorite to any i've seen, you'll just say that. after the movie starts we meet a woman where it's veryvident there's somethi about her, there's an enigma. she's behing in a way we don't normallyeeomen behav >> charlie: ckless. >>nd instantly yr intrigd. you may be turned offor feel awkward or a little uncomfortable but your intgued and iredibly intrigued. so meet silvia. she is a woman that has many

secretsnd she's trying to rvive the best she knows how to. >> charlie: ennifer, casting of jennifer in this film, we're going to see her now. >> fir of all, the film you can't build it way cornerstone and that was charlize. she was the foundation. the corr stone. you binuilding the landscape of human --the human ldscape around that cornerone and has to be coherent with that fit approach. i wa looking at the very first day and when we have luh and this beautiful wan accepts me in the fm she said you have to be careful with the casting o marianna. a15-year-d girl who is --

this is very importa the story so the first d i watched the castin thatbrilliant casting director sent me and i said that one. i want her. >> charlie: she leapt f the scre. >> yeah. when youe casting someone i think that iast someone for three reasons. obviouslytalent, what the persona brings to the aracter that means how they stand how they walk and most important i the tae. >>harlie: taste? >> taste. how they expss their emotis is taste. how much they n reveal something the character with the movements of the body is taste. i personally don't like overacting ove faces. i liken aress or actor that

can be able to say a lot of things with ve little an i was impressed with how thi very young girl was able to do that. i say i want her. the ver first day and also who playssaiago. people we le -- people were like how director you are? >> charlie: and you had her in your mind? >> charlize? >> charl: yes. all the te. >> crlie: all right. ll tape. >> why dyou want to see me? >> i don't know. >> i don't think it's okayfor you to talk to me. >> why?

do you look like your mom? >> no. do you look like youdad? >> a little. do you know how you mom and my dad met? >> no, i ha no idea. hand it ov. >> charlie: tell mabout the ene adds the director. >> first oall that was the most dficult actor to work with. >> charlie: they're not sy, are they? >> there were some persons and this is acene where marianna and saiago really met for th

first time and her mothernd hifather are having kind of like aove affair and mting and trying to kno what really happenedetween your parents fell in love so this is the vy first scene and i love that place and it gives me th chills it's beautiful. >> l cruces, new mexico. >> charlie: this you said wasn't shot na in a nlinear way. >> in a nonsequee way -- >> charlie: it's too expensive? >> yeah, and when have you an ensemble cast and a story that mps as much as this and you

have to relyn the director and it's great when he's t write anit's a o-man show. but you do you ed that. i ink it's -- have u to always kind ofnow you know where the volume is and where you're ilding the arc and how much and how little. >> charlie: do you think aut directing? >> not now. >> charlie:t's a thingou'll later? >> i don't know. i'm one of those people i ner say never. if someone would have tol me 15 ars ago would i produce i thk i would hav sai . thin things find you. i'm always open it threw we sire to produce and i don't have the sam dese as for acting and i don't he any of that for directing. >> charlieso if you look at the body ofork where it is today, has itut you in essentially a place interms of experience, in terms of opons, in terms o offyff of future you

ke to be >> i feel blessed. part of me mas me feel i woed hard to get re. m a hard worr. i'vead some incredibl lucky moments but myeartnd ul's always been in it a very honest way and i've done everything for a real honest reasons. i haven't done anythin in my career for dishonest reasons or put my creativy in a compromise thawould live it and for tha i'm incredibly blessed becae i n so many actors that have h to do tt pay their rent. >> charlie: a there mcles you want to crea more >>always. that there aays needs to be room to wa to explore and by no means at this time in my life

feel like i have the answer and i love that. i absolutely love that. >> charlie: what's the best way for an actor to grow? >> i believe it's the people you surroundourself with a a el incredibly lucky ie had the opportunities with the people i've h. . i can look back my career and every single pson that i've worked with and i've been polid to work with amazing people and producers, rectors, writers, actors, i'm talking abt cinatographers and i've been lucky and those have been my teaches h tehers and mentors need to have a real interesand fascination withfilmmaking and if you he that and you work with goodeople and y become a sponge and soak uphat energy and infoation, that's the best scenario youan hope for. >> charlie: you've said u've

been extraordinary lucky too. what with u were you referring ? >> i met my first manager ithe bank. >> charlie: you made deposit. >> i was making a deposit in a bank one of th oldes stories in the bo. >> charlie: he came up to you and said you shoulbe in movies. >> i was havg a tantrum because it was an out state check anshe wouldn't catch it and i was stayingn a cheap mote that s going to ck me out d i was desperate for m me and they write was interesting a tantm and this man tried to help me out, that's kind of lucky, righ >> charl: if he was a good manager he's lucky and a lot of it i not lucky but being ready for when the opportunityind of shows up and ias always --

i' always been that erson. i've aays been -- i think it comes from any backound in baet, i come- my headnd my mache works really with work and discipline. you know i'm not o of those people- there's a constant need for knowledge and i think i'm a searcher at heart so there's a constant needto kind of evolvendith that when you can kindf spot and notice a opportunity you can prepared for it. >>harlie: if you look back at the les that you have take ose you have taken risk with d for whatever rean perhaps they p you in a certain locaon and work with certain actors you like and it will be fun, just that. that'sokay. do you find a commonality and mmon denominator there with

thcharacters you've inhabited. >> i have done that. i'velearned. i hav definitely -- i'll gi you an example. i was a hugean of joh frankenheim and i got ofred a film and it was cald "reindeer games." it was a script that needed rk t i took the job beuse i love him and to me mentoring is as pfect as it comefor me. the experien w incredible working with him and gting to knowhim. it was -- i think that making that film ught me way much more as a producer than just the gistic of what needs to happen to make a movie and watching him work and watching him rk with actors than the movie didn't turn out great.

the character didn't turn out great thanprobably any other movie where the character turns out betr and my performance tued out better o the performance rned out better. i think every fm you walk away with different- >> charl: do you know wh you walk ay though is not going to work? >> sometimes, yeah. yeah. i can usuallyell ifhere's going to be proems and i've always bn surprised the other way around. >> charlie: in t editing room it turned out to be okay. >> ie been surprised and this is are great editors -- an amazing editor walkedn. >> charlie can talk about mexico for a bit. >> sure, go ahead. >> charlie: other worry about wlessness and on-state actors. >> i think mexico is going one toughest peod of o recent history.

when there's money fromrugs 's very difficult for a state to svive. thdrug lords to crupt the stem is ge. this is -- i goi to pa u're the police chief, i'm going pay you $400 a month, you do not accept next te it's your kis head in a shoe box. >> charlie sot's the dollars or yr kid's head. >> i talked to people and you try to fight tm but there's too much money invved that it's difficult a the only solution is to have aoth sides many sides diag about it. personally, think that legalization of drugsould really help a lot. i know that some people in the ste have said no, will not

solve anything because t crime groups will go to other areaof crime which i don't think so because th crime didn't exist when i was a kid. >> charlie: take o the profit motive. >>t would take out the financinand i think for mexicans what hillarylinton did accepting the unitestates blame and >> charlie: responsility for the demand. >> it was li -- it really alleviated usnd me us feel that at least we're not alone in the program because whe the guns come from? they come from the state. >> charlie: and the d demand fo thdrugs come from the stat what's interesting when i was i meco recently, there was some -- there was that, that o prlem is also yourroblem and we'd like to you recognize it the her thing w there was a

nse that mexico was doing pretty good about the global economycollapsed and then it suffered and there was some blame and waed the united states to say i'm sorry for what happened to the global ecomy. doou sense that? is there aense of that in meco. >> they say that when united ates has a sma cold, mexico has the flu. >> charlieis it different under president obama. >> at ast the perceion is ey're willing to accept and work togetr with everyone. that's a relf. >> chaie: than to speak to their asrations. >> tre was some elections -- fake elections, who will

mexicans vote for and 97% of mexicans would vote for obama. >>harlie: this agast mexicans. >>heexicans could vote they would te 97%. i thinkhis is the only way things canork is through dialog >> charlie: does mexico get the policians it deserves? >> i don't think so. >> charlie: when the political policies areot filling the gaps, sociy has to fill them. we must not accep that everything com from the liticians. we mussolve the problemsn the soety. >>harlie: is there a filmn this for you. >> yes. th movie instead of talking about drugs in the border t

tas about lovebecause on the board is not jt drugs b friendship and le and many other thing and this is our points of encounter we can have between both countries. >> crlie: nice to workfor a man who spks like that. >> i love that i lovehat you can tell story that deals with the border and to say there is no border because when you deal with humanityt's all e same. >> charlie: just we saw you sitting in the in thbox wahingennis and you looked thusiast >> you were watching tennis? >> chaie: in the present's boand eve time the camera ok one away fromthe court it we to her beautiful face is

what happened. >> i envy her. >> charlie: you like tens too? >> like tenni very much. >> charlie: it's abo what? passion? >> because federer's moms south african. >> charlie: you said you're a nadal -- >> i like tm both. they're both incredible and this incredible -look, they've been amazing to the spo and they've been azing to watch and they've definite made me a bigg fan and i watch w more regulay because of the two of them and i think if y're rooting for one of them the otheis your number two and i think you canappreciate them both >> charl: what i love about it, it's twoeople engaged and if you look at federer andandy roddicatimbledon at their best but as two people a what i do affects what you can do. unlike golf essentially you're playing against the court and yourself. >> i think wh you said is very true.

i love it because of tt mtal thg too. is really is you and your mind. i think you physically a great tennis player b if you don't have a gre mind you can't do it and at the end the guys sincerel shake hands andhat ntlemen aspect -- it's agent men's spor >> charlie: we talk to her abo e finals because she has not seens and everybody watching thinks i'm idiot because i haven't talked about it. >> i'mgoing home tight and wahing it at like 3:00 a.m. >> you don't know whowon. >> charlie: i couldt have waited. >> t winner was -- >> crlie: don't tellher. >> let me tell you a story about nnis. the united states te was

playing against mexico and a wanted to see how they were trainingnd a went to the stadium and tre was on the stadium was where i used to go. theyaid -- the american team, i was a huge fan of jimmy conns, they were going to arve at 5:00 and i was the only pson and they closed the door. and was the only spector between jmy connors and my stadium. >> a they didn't sa who's the creepy g watching us? >> no,hey said who' the sexy handsome guy watching us. >> charlie: he mus be a famous coach. that a great story. >> i w 17 and for a kid having been the only one in the stadium with the united stes practicing and why jimmy connors, onef the greatestf all times. >> azing. wow. >> charlie: so why didn'tou

become a tenn something. >> because the great thing about being a director you can beten feet from thbest acts in the world. >> charlie: thank you for cong. much success. it opens fridaynight. thank you for joing us. see you xt time captioningponsored by se communications captioned media cess group at wgbh access.wgbh.org