>> dave: ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the big program. say hello to shannon ice. how are you? >> fantastic, thank you. >> dave: she is chairman, c.e.o., and president of the international toy consortium, and every year she cheers and shows us toys and i think these represent the best, most popular new toys, is that what it is? >> we have several of those, sure. >> dave: how are your kids? have you done all of your shopping? >> i did. >> dave: how many kids do you have? >> still just two. >> dave: why, what have you

heard? what kind of things do you buy for your kids? do you get them this kind of stuff right here? >> we have gotten them a little activity stuff. they're big into games right now. >> dave: computer games. >> some but there are tabletop games that are take off. >> dave: the threats, and i keep reading more and more from the surgeon general, if a kid plays computer games constantly, his eyes will cross. is there any truth to that, shannon? >> he would know better than-- >> dave: of course he would. that's why he's the surgeon general. and your kid smokes while playing computer games, then don't even bother calling. ( applause ) now listen, here's something i'm going to do at my house over the holidays. they have some of these-- they're hot air balloons. and they're, like, gauze or something, and then you light them, and the air inside the gauze thing warms, it rises and it's quite beautiful and goes way up into the sky. now once i lit the thing that

heat the air, what is my liability? ( laughter ) >> we don't have those here. >> dave: well, no, you don't use them indoors. they play flyway up and finally the thing will extinguish, and then it will gently float down. >> that's the thing with helium balloons. they can fall anywhere. >> dave: right, but i mean, am i-- if the house goes up-- >> i just wouldn't sign your name on it. don't address it. >> dave: okay, let's get going here, shannon. >> okay. >> dave: what do we have first. this looks very cute. this is educational. >> not precisely. they're hermit crabs. and they're called za-za. they just kind of run around their habitat here. let me get them all turned on real quick. >> dave: battery powered? >> they are. they're little watch batteries. they interact with their environment. >> dave: what age are we talking about? >> ages four and up.

my little one got stuck here, but. ( laughter ) is it obvious? the thing with kids, they like them because they don't smell like real hermit crabs, and they live longer. ( laughter ) but you know, it's girl play, and they have a nice little habitat that they can play in. la( laughter ) and their shells pop off, and you can reaccess rise. >> dave: shannon, i don't want to get ahead of the scenario here, but i'm thinking you and dad want to goo outsome night, plug this up, who needs a baby-sitter? ( laughter ) am i right about that? >> could be, could be. ( applause ). >> dave: all right. how much is that? >> each of them are $10.99. >> dave: do they run outside of the habitat? >> they do. and they have sensors into them so they bump into their environment and then they'll take off and go in different directions. >> dave: i'll drop one in my pants. ( applause )

well... stop-- hey! hey! that may be a little advanced for the kids. all right, shannon, seriously, let's settle down and get going here, because-- >> i didn't think i'd-- >> dave: that's the way it is with crabs. ( laughter ) ( applause ) >> dave: you'll be all right. >> we're going to use this one

on the floor. >> dave: okay, that's a good idea. >> and it is a light-controlled. and it will follow the red light that is. >> mitted. >> dave: oh, this is great. this is better than the-- >> it that's see the red light. >> dave: yeah, right. i understand that. so... >> dave: where did the son of a bitch go? hold it. >> there you go, there you go. ( laughter ) so-- >> dave: look at that. that's fantastic. >> very cool. and we have the cyclone stunt set over here so you can actually run it up the ramp. >> dave: what i found out with all the radio-control stuff is that it's way too sensitive. it-- you know, you can't really control it too well. >> this is really actually-- well, yeah.

( laughter ). >> dave: okay. and it's following the light. so wherever you lead it-- >> dave: i know, shannon. i-- ( laughter ) ♪ ♪ where did it go! >> it's over there. >> dave: oh, come back over here. and it's supposed to go in-- >> they can go in there. let me show you what happens once you put it in there. ( applause ) >> dave: oh, it will go around? just hold the light. ( applause ) >> dave: that's good. very nice. >> so next we have one of the

biggest toys to come out of europe. this is called the doggy-do. and what we're going to do, it's sort of like a new twist on hot potato. >> dave: from europe. >> from europe. big, big sort of-- >> dave: a dachshund, is that what it looks like? >> yes. we're going to put his food in there. going tow give it a nice push, and then-- so in hot potato you would roll the dice andigate count for the number of-- let me give a pump there-- for the number of pumps you get so the players-- keep squeezing. and the winner-- ( laughter ) and then you scoop it up. big in europe. >> dave: europeans are a little more sophisticated than

we here in america. we're just dumb hicks here. yes, what's next? >> okay, let's upgrade. so we now have the defender swat. >> dave: this is going to be crazy. this is going to be dangerous, because the-- these are crazy to control, aren't they? and because-- >> dave: watch yourself. maybe you better do it. >> no, no, no. it's all you. >> dave: all right, wow. look at that. whooo! it couldn't be more life-like. >> try it one more time. if not, i have a backup. >> dave: am i doing something wrong, shannon? >> here, try-- >> dave: i'm afraid to-- okay. try that one. that's always what happens. there it goes.

how do i get it to-- oh! ( applause ) >> there you go. it's durable. >> dave: everybody all right over there? ( applause ) that's the problem. now that's expensive, isn't it? how much is that? >> it's only $49. >> dave: how much? >> it's only $49. >> dave: it's fun and you think it will be great but you have to spend a lot of time practicing on it and then you will have more fun, right? >> yes. >> dave: i like this. >> are you ready to gear up? you're going to be player one. there's an ear clip. put that on your earlobe. >> dave: i'm sorry omy what? >> on your earlobe.

how's it going? ( laughter ) okay. are you on? >> dave: yup. >> you're going to calibrate for a second. >> dave: okay. >> it's measuring your brain waves right now. >> dave: measuring my brain waves. ( laughter ) >> it is a game controlled by-- >> dave: poor dave has flat lined. >> it's controlled by thinking. i can think things will happen. i'm thinking the show is over. ( laughter ) >> so we're beginning. you have to concentrate on the ball. you're trying to get it to my side so you can win. think about arithmetic. >> dave: that's what over there? ( applause ) >> or you can do that. >> dave: now how come i couldn't-- that's not really brain waves. >> it actually is.

it's measuring the brain waves. there are a couple of pulse points and the harder you think or concentrate, the more power it gives it. that's what the box said. >> dave: that's what the box said, yeah. unless this was developed at johns hopkins, i don't believe a word of it. and now we have some flying things and then we're off and running. >> yes. this is good stuff. this is called an a.s.o. >> dave: this is an old idea for a toy. >> hold it steady and give it a quick pull. >> dave: oh, and it-- it has-- >> yeah, hold it out steady. >> dave: you've got to concentrate now. >> quick pull. >> dave: oh, yeah. >> they're pretty good. they work every time. >> dave: these aren't very expensive, are they? >> they're $19. >> dave: look out, lady, look out! oh, my god! one more. i have to get one in the

balcony. i like these. >> hold it up straight. >> dave: okay, here we go. >> dave: there you go. shannon ice, ladies and gentlemen. we'll be right back are governor jon huntsman. merry christmas, shannon. thank you very much. nice job. ( applause ) ,,,,,,,,,,,,

♪ ♪ ( applause ). >> dave: thank you very much. our next guest is the former governor of the great state of utah, also a former united states ambassador to china. he is now a candidate for the republican nomination for president of the united states. ladies and gentlemen, here he is, jon huntsman. jon, come on out. ♪ ♪ ( applause )

how you doing? welcome to the program. you know, i think-- maybe it was a couple of years ago i was watching television during the day and they had a thing up, and barack obama was saying that you were leaving your post as ambassador to china, and he wished you well, and your time there was well regarded, and he really appreciated all you've done. i go, well, that's interesting. and because of that sendoff, i thought you were probably in the same party but you, in fact, were a republican and working under a democratic administration. >> in fact, a republican. i worked for president reagan, worked for president bush. i come from this old school belief, dade dave, when your country asks you to serve, your president is your president, regardless of party. >> dave: that's the way it's supposed to work. ( applause ) >> absolutely.

>> dave: and you were the governor of utah when he asked you to go to china? >> that's correct. i had just been re-elected by a fairly large margin, and he asked us to step up and serve in this critically important relationship and i thought, you know, we've been trying to crack the code on china-- you know, i'd lived in the region three times. i speak chinese. >> and thought, you know, if you can help your country in this most critically important relationship, if you don't do it, it says something about you. you'd be unpatriotic. >> dave: now you said something interesting there to me "crack the code on china." oooh, that makes it sound more problematic than i could ever imagine. i just always assumed it was some economic imbalance that we were up again, but "crack the code," what does that mean? >> it's a large and complicated relationship. there are economic parts of it, there are political parts of it, there are security parts of it, there are cultural parts of it. when you look at the totality of the u.s.-china relationship, some people stand up and say we'll slap a tariff on china and all will be well.

that's nonsense. it's part north korea, part iran, part pakistan, part the environment, part the flow of people. there's a lot to it and every move you make on the chess board impacts something else in the relationship. so you have to approach it, now that we're 40 years into the relationship, it's a 40-year-old relationship since nixon stepped off the plane in '72. it is the most important bilateral relationship of the 21st century. >> dave: here's what i wonder will happen. we've gotten it this far, and it's now 2011. this is as much as we as americans can do. china has all of the energy of an emerging nation, all of the manpower as resources, and all the money. let's let them take over. now is that a good idea or a bad idea? ( laughter ) let's-- let somebody else take a turn at this. ( applause ) am i a commie? >> no. no. >> dave: i don't want to be a comb. >> you're a practical, pragmatic guy. here's what i used to tell them. i used to tell them to get ready

for criticism because america's been a world leader fair long time. we get criticized. we're always at fault. we're always to blame. everybody's always pointing the finger of blame at us, and i used to tell them, you're now on the world stage, folks. people are going to start criticizing you, and you better get used to. >> dave: and the problem, because they want everything that everybody else has they are going to go through the same process to get there that we have gone through, and in doing so, a lot of residual trouble occurs. >> here's the deal-- they're going through massive leadership changes next year. we have elections, so i hear, next year. they have leadership changes. and they're going to change probably 70 promise of the top 200 leaders, massive, probably the most significance since 1949. the rise of the fifth generation. theor hubristic, nationalist. >> dave: did you enjoy your time there? >> you know, it's a challenging relationship. you can't be dropped into a city like beijing that is full of energy and not get a sense of

where the world is going. you stand there in a country of 1.3 billion people. it's moving along at lightning speed, and you reflect on this country. i mean, the greatest nation that ever was, and you say we're kind of in a funk right now. we're kind of dispirited as people. >> dave: well, yeah, i mean it's palatable. you can-- >> it is, it is. but you also get the sense that china-- >> dave: palpable. what did i say palatable. delicious. >> some of the food is pretty pal atable. >> dave: we'll be right back with governor jon huntsman. ( applause )

♪ ♪ ( applause ). >> dave: all right. governor huntsman is here. you know, we could go on talking about china for years and i probably wouldn't understand any of it, so let's talk about your life, your family, your interest in politics. i have here a rather incriminating photo. >> i can't believe that. >> dave: good heavens. what is going on here? this is you in a rock 'n' roll band entitled wizard. >> and i'm not going to even tell you which guy i am. >> dave: there you are. >> how did you figure that one out? >> dave: this is 1978, 19...? ( applause ) '79, yeah. it you were in high school? >> i was in high school. i thought i could make it big. i wanted to be paul shaffer. >> paul: oh! >> so if i had made it as a musician, dave, i wouldn't be sitting here with you today. i would be playing with the guys. >> dave: did you leave school to pursue your music gileft the

end of my senior europe in high school, i was junior class president, ran for senior class president, lost, ran for another office, lost, gave up on politics. wanted to be a musician, pursued it with great passion and left high school with a couple of classes undone and went to do music full time. didn't make it as a musician like i thought i might, went back to civilian life, finished school, and went on, kind of as planned. now i'm back in politics. ( laughter ). >> dave: but were your parents-- they were okay? they were supportive? >> they were very supportive. you know, like, you know, i try to be with our kids. >> dave: how many kids do you have? >> seven, seven kids. ( applause ) >> dave: look at that. >> we have three girls on the campaign trail. you can find them on jon2012 girls. we have two boys at the united states naval academy. i'm very, very proud of them. and we have two little girls,

one from china, one from india. >> dave: this was taken as you were-- ( applause ). >> that was taken during the announcement, exactly. yeah. >> dave: you and your family were crossing the border into switzerland. no, that's... ( laughter ) ( applause ). >> the hills are alive, dave, the hills are alive. >> dave: can you play for us here? i don't want to put you on the spot but is it possible for you to run over there and do a little something on the organ with paul? >> paul: come on. >> what do you think? >> dave: i'd love to hear it. jon huntsman, let's go. it ( cheers and applause ) >> paul: sit right down here. >> here we go, here we go. ♪ ♪ >> dave: oh, my goodness.

>> paul: go, go, go, go, johnny go, go, go, johnny go go, go, johnny go johnny be good ( cheers and applause ). >> dave: governor jon huntsman, ladies and gentlemen. thank you very much. say hello to your family for me. thank you very much, governor. jon huntsman. we'll be back with j. cole, everybody. ,,