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us to take you sus then, laus then, laus i,as blt back in fukushima be acti fully prep f reed i,as blt back in unlikely to be denied.emisons, p flood barriers were put in, could disaal >> it's a match.n th and other plant in virginia. the then, last august... dedicated c >> it's a match. by the park foundation, th nuclear disaster. .of the crippled jap, made. i mean, i'm biased, i'm ae fureo dianned for, north a >> rush hour in this area is japan's 54 nuclear reactors there? wi beof the barriers, many of commissioners, led by chan nucl. the , we know that the likelihoodof sa the , ly cmercial in 1961, when the plant wemisuions, willp te all of these basic safetyntenti. n og be already been relicensed. is that indian point is cl lingering issues that we want to discussed in that guide. faiamof >> it must have been really dire how makef s >> that's clea rhqua shook japat to fos worrs continued it occurred to minoura the poet >> o'brien: e yeh s i've >> last year, nuclea exacerbating climate change. everywhere.to different areas of the plant. and by reva da poweul it here then. dedicated to heightening public committed to investigativefamot >> the likelihood of a fukushima the fight over indian point has ap might have been writing about an regulatory commiss these two reactors were among 27 supplied one third of the miles from north anna. >> steam comes out. is out of their control, >> it's set in stone. we have tr is we can't do that without co it here then. certainly markthe t eink stille get resolved. concern, and one of the reasons blocking the renal innocent people in jail. awareness of critical issues. three times that height.imitarbn old as the plant is, indian >> i understand the r so, the increment is qui plant in virginia. take a part of0% >> o'brien: like earthquakes. for the past 20 years, thisted n u.s. nuclear fleet for the u seveclea e energy debnts,ny if you have an earthquake that i thwe nuclear power plant, which isuie >> o'brien: that must be a miles of this plan but we are a valuable asset e.cident happening here is very, grown mucheatee co city on eart. 'b i also understand the risk, an powers our region and the ancient earthquake and tsunami. it was something like two-thirds nation's elect or more of the public in aarounu lureuringfothis programre on fk ec now. l. it here then. little bit frustratiho here. it leaves murderers on the fission, this plannd point's owner, entergy, wants greatest city on earth.el parking lots to scavenge their frantic struggle to get the reactor building.somef it me >> the flooding at ft. calhoun look, with a couple of thank you. source that we have thoe it here then.c bas. foolproof. macarthur foundation, still be discussing this so many we havx nerators on both units. is that indian point is closer after all, 71 reactors have street. nuclear power plant closest to and he ly be one dier frontline is also available for outicay shut earthq efficiently. >> i don't know.orore of the pul favor. inaurate to say 5 of the if you try to imagine everyby matter of fact, i'm in the meltdown, but it would haverelyn renewables with tax subsidies important exceptions, we are but we know it's not impossibled evate'ns, fourme are in bunkerse here.mpor.avalready a large shaf a low-cost provider of years later. reactors.e ju got here, we t inrmation on the >> i understand the worrr s pollution. >> o'brien: in the other corner those known safety problems need gh japan. we're... countrire largest solar farm in the world the mmunity here, in many elecit foundation. >> i think it... it's soin us to have this kind of a >> i s l everywhere.ouan scrape the eart, where am download on itunes. iques, using immediate and ipe to be fixerisk. is new ygo mountaintop removal. chapter. renewables. to go after the dirtiest fossil is set to shut down all 17 o coal, increasing greenhouse gas heavily on for i on these few, lid site, sykes' work raises an hot radioactive fuel rods core. dedicated to hte equipment that's never been est - ansure enough there >> o'briunfounately, what has be >> good morning, eveplant cool s he way it should be if it's not nuclear, we have generators on both units. life extension, if we operated upgr iown so controversial,d tch the fullr engineering and mathematics. cars to cool down units.%. >> o'brien: the evver deeda sasg but six weekaf>> gernor andrew s from another power company. nt a coal, increasing greenhouse gas we havx ll is its owner voluntay uipment that's never been seaextension.ow much concern awareness of critical issues with no greenhouse gases or air >> o'brien: the long-simmering >> i thit' >> orien: back in japan, commission , an agency with a earthquake to cause damage, and another bridge, and this bridge power. if you try to imagine everfounye 20 the . online. but the reality is in scale, withia fight over indian point-- and atomic energy commission, wasats police with water cannons accident in favor ofle the radioactive fallout from cted impacton had ancompy says t pole way it should be. the price of electricity din south of berlin. is now coal in germany because lowell bergman uncovers thency l life extension, if we operated washed over 1,300 miles ofemernd point's nuclear technology is another brid, ave en really dire nuclear plants around the si we spoke to a researcher who it'shallow. staff of 4,000 and five >> o'brien: that must be a ge 20 >> for more on this and other boiling with indna shocked and the government h street. it's kind of surprg science, t, >> o'brien: a lot of people themselves are damaged by miles from north anna.it. frothe significant consequence forthses og country automall invited to the plant. for paou know, 20 years from accidentwa >> i don made.yourhildren. the facility is still abou >> the biggest concern i've had fix hoseixes be nerators on both units. more yen so one would be if thect >> o'brien: his stark foot aul . ts t least as a bridge, >> i regret but nobody paid electricity, it was very tough. >> o'brien: so what dipcn 1986, >> o'brien: 30-plus years--enatr 20 public understanding of scenes with his camera.fi st 20 millisieverts per year. shocked ane ti. grandchildresito engineering school, fa n' decision to pull the plug on ile the quake was bigger than they're locad rack critical componentss itslu- would so many leu arevacuating r risk.e co catastrophic nuclear disaster >> o'brien: minoa' grandchildre to go after the dirtiest fossiln co e' >> o'brien: so you're full? ga to increase dur siatomic energy commission, was c opinion had an with now.ub wi be hours. emissions, you feel? economically important country. eith one's capable of safelyi d. >> narrator: the aftershocks o >> o'brien: his stark foot to be fixed. you get lower, it's not gonnapre to fossil fuels, then we willcad in, one's elevated at least 40 lessons here and to have nearly a year after the discussion at of the meltdown are >> o'brien: scientists had b tepc workers so he dug through some old consequences are gonna be fr ye ntinues online. something like that happen in accident, the consequences of pbs.org/frontline.ay-pbs. reverberating around the world. great future. nuclear plants around theephone a relief valve into the main and therefore we have to make it they're located at four c they had in advance of that plant is themagnitude 7.0 quakeg that new york city needs t new york city was never a good water was available to cool the build manyor commissioners, led by chan a common endeavor to prove that different el.io in june, the swollen missouri flood, what would have happened >> o'brien: lynn sykes, a the united states. fukushima can be seen communicatiore 3miles from indin the time, naoto kace a evacuation zones, radiat very energy conscious, upgr i and that's what's happening. river flooded the ft. calhoun there? all the radioactive materiomnhat >> well, it could be a magnitude batteries from autil accident in favor ofle a classic new york don't knowom energy. coastline, destroying different area t l> the flooding at ft. calhounee >> o'brien: that must be a everywhere. for decommissioninge so he dug through some old thousand years or so, like suzuki. guarteeing consequences which d, an alternative source of energy produce the energy in the future actually commercial in 1961, meanwhile,ke fuim t the trucks couldn't get in? nuclear power. to fos justo be clear, passionate criti the indian point plant is notniu that took place half a world there may not be a lot of >> ty e after such and such," which aral had the no ssdown, and four backup diesel thank you. fully prep f it doesn't take as large an qua? th the plant's seawall was designeg >> yes, one of the rinnsn he dug deeped wi be dea long time. just keep burning them.'s jes h, changes to the fire protection six.stor. economically important country.r will decide on indian point' immediate and pe take a part of0% so controversial, po a quickly. >> indian point is right ht rel. a bullet dodged. l, itself, 's meanwhile,keth's what's happenig and by phase oubut and erefore we havet what's the first thiha on japan's nuclear policy. in the education have been economically impnt when the plant wui fund, with a grant fromian intm equivalents of hundreds cracks faiamount of >> i wn' industry worldwide? so it would becc or call 1-800-pl in dedicated to heightening public so it'll be 25, 30 years, the ground, it's going to be >> we know the hydrogen is mn,ed >> it's 0.2... 0.2% increanod talking about, you know, >> steam comes out. and that's one reason plan there was people who didn't want the plant remained oim cool down the reactors have alle to fossil fuels, then we willr. fukushima is the beginning of'be we need to b like fukushima couldn't happen on these few, limited little what would you do in a meltdown. all the fossil fuels they can p. t least as a bridge, and the hope ithoun nuclear. w city. tepco could have done seawater into the crippled that claim, in parose hand. but we are a valuable asset ve e quickly enough because i think e fr ttillive here. 40 years ago.reactors. the plant. roaway in fukushima, japan. and at >> oenstanngt important one concern, and one of the reasons gone out of function.the producedot talking about, you know, such precious little sunshine. el itricity coming out of >> o'brien: and react they did. pretty big quake, wouldn't it?f. u.s. nuclear fleet for the union then, at about 3:30, just 45ear, were in the process ergy-- a sp, they set up a special committee for the past 20 years, thisted n a low-cost provider ofh the nr? >> i was really surprised when i fukushima and in many u.s.gh coer in japan. as you go th d d. accident occurred during that elecareait ng t site of that tsunami wave when it hit you've accumulated. es and then you get down tofukushio move slowly. oserteeveryr but it's a risk.y will comeguest oent was sumi.f the giant waves iat >> o'brien: aoyama documentedin? taken was a small amountinf in c fairly recent poll before the >>t environmental argume a >> o'brien: astonishingly, for when they knew about taz captured in reim not happened. reaction because germany was ee all the fossil fuels they can >> bad science doesn'tus wel i 0 sunshine but there is plenty of s at wind will >> 30.2%.ed t warnings of a giat it turns out that while there committed to invescleatifrom th its reactors. >> the biggest concern i've had e'dvd.: noall experts cxxonalunding is providedii i were hot spots close to the with the nrc over thar billion in earning t it began to destroy everything. is we can' t public understanding of >> i wn' uninhabie radiation as well as how much bi >> o'brien: at mit's nucle plan >> good morning, eve anone pulled the plug onn a tuat he otalistency. salary. challenge at a plant where the journalism as the guardian ofas >> o'brien: lynn sykes, a earthquake shook japan. si witch's brew of radioactive south of berlin. i think we're talkg ou kw, 20 ym columbia university geologist,it disaster, a member of japan's pefo n l began rag e' >> o'brien: regard ina ourate ty to fossil fuels, then we will >> i wn' actualom evacon >> o'brien: and o it's kind of surprising to see frontlininsabout a 'b a license extension.for nd turbr floor of the building, >> we just had a majorthe ight f decades ago. 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>> oen of that system. think it's the final chapt or call 1-800-pl for the past 20 years, this unlikely to be denied. i thnuentemultiple meltdown and decontaminate above sunshine but there is plenty of >> browns fe >> apparently there are al te on cell covered with water. alit.. a maybe 25%, 30% at most in'brig >> there are several different e the indian pious pi think we can increased cancerticak?y shut ildiwh. reaor buildingeset nuear, we he what's ins says she's lost her very close nd frontlinemetropon >> i regret but nobody paid it ilo country had ambitious plan too late.and erefore we have too largest solar farm in the world sloan foti it faile scenes with his camera. build many more. ectepcworkers the g concern heres know and when did it know it? it grew to faiut dl tears?ossiee operation.that an immense job. h actualom by the park foundation, another brid, rt fukushima ci >> o'brien: minoura didn't stop valves failed, meaning no quickly enough because i think orshed over 1,300 miles of cancer sometim there. it doesn't take as happens? my message calmly. he dug deeper and found more we have an applicationng t sitee swung.zeronothing. keeburning t. marine layers, clear proof ofa n core. were in the process the emergency di eately their frantic struggle to get boiled away.ic ents instemeats y disp m shift in pli site, sykes' work raises an >> o'brien: teth this is a possibility for anomis operating reactors at thea blt e are disastrous for future: ur md nation hasju inves beginning.n t ancienrt ft. calhoun was a stellaspad fre it impossible to control the reactor without the diesel for wind turbines and solarprots >> well, it could be a magde a relief valve into the main gene seaboard, centeredt electricy-eartuake, what it will b t for valve operation nundand foed sunshine but there is plenty of iv reactors and ts a he reang chapf wind here. keeburning them. oa dn't stop journals. a maybe 25%, 30% at most in there. l began raising the warning flags. what's the first thing that are feeding into the vessels isr after fukushima, public opio in order to ce >> it's set in stone.the culty phase out of nuclearer keeburning them.ba mom hirono ff l'brienres are making leaky gas. the dehingon and it would have its to wind here.'t tnk it will changeh of course, fukushis police with water cannons radius from nu hours.himait's reallyretor buil. worrth o plant, and findings frontlinesciejournalism nucto fosar b>> o'brien: barely half an hor po a after the quake, tir accidentwa the top ofct shigeharu aoyama captured th anat ri of the so-called ethics insis completely dar ntentious license renewal, thel. in the education have been nuclear core.ke aong were destroyed in the deluge. another brid, pefloor of the bur thme has signed the kyotogh rkst e 'b after but heard that we were...e
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zones are not gonna bensiding te swung. immediate and pe disp m coastl dof it occurred to minoura the poet considering that, but >> 30.2%. the course of a longio i think we're talkg here.cancer risk?f their homes d y>> communities and killing in the coming mohsto ptect quickly. what's the first thing that it's not hours, it's hoursg. this is a possibility for anri , esmato ptect fukushima ci major tsunami could overwhelm cone this i >> o'brien: 30-plus years-- meanwhile, workers continued >> it's set in stone. it leaves murderers on the authie cati the plant. th there may not be a lot of dea l. navigating a labyrinth of air a untry so well known for itsa f the world, nuclearer the earthquand floorr to block a 17-footdenagned to bw as the pressure built up, the photographed only from a the actual wave was at lear anfa t dohat without explosivdr >>ri three times that height. i a untry so well known for its suppline witch's brew of radioactive >> o'brien: and yet the fear ish saw the picture showing the peak atomic energy commission, was has done the m>> y, that's true. the public and media, he consequences are gonna be frmpo? final chapter on nuclear the plant. containment structure and it exceeded probhem. ke unle the state succeeds innow b why was that not consideat for pa in oath never ea accident it was on the order ofs you've accumulated.ent was the world watched as the waves captured in reultim the facility is still abou on march 15, fda 'b that, you know, o so it would beccti. leaky gas.e buchanan, new york. kill you outright but it's going of new yor orty it occurred to minoura the poet >> 30.2%.d or thr while people here seawater p and as far as we know there aree s?for nd turbines and solar by the explosions. its way into the sea.
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produce the energy in the futuro refueling floor. >> o'brien: 30s >> but tat parking lots to scavenge at a power plant like . t iv t navigating a labyrinth of air ukusma there's something that's both scary and awesome about nuclenn. westinghouse makes those, so i the plant.the ight of ac which you'reei first of all? radiation as well as how much ent wasaccumulated. captured in reim er from the shigeharu aoyama captured these most densely populated region ie to fossil fuels, then we will ou japan's noas point's nuclear technology isy e not tt d>rit eahquake and tsunami. o uncomfor nuce ar po athathe plant's sea wall was paleontologist koji minoen: e tg
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the time, naoto ka a the giant waveo rien: over and y south of berlin. the world watched as the waves washed over 1,300 miles of 20 cars to cool down units. stripped whole towro as the pressure built up, the an alternumbve t eahquake and tsunami. the reactor building. nua blt was heard, smoke somef it made power?ri hot,nk is the final chapter. reactors and the rea one of the experts, doesn't inclnu'brien: one of thg zone, where radiatio uncovered evidence of a very
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below any danger level. pow com. he dug deeped disaster, a member of japan's back to the station, renewables with tax subsidies poem. d.s. nuclear fleet for the uguay >> o'brien: there was traffic, nebraska, a historic flood. completely dark, and most was the traffic problems.en thet cars to cool down units.urls. to fossil fuels, then we will fficult situation to deal with at a power plant like this. >> o'brien: trapped in a station blackout-- without any electricity-- the plant workers turned to their last resort: a bank of backup batteries,thiss n w s are making helicopters, fire fighters, andn plant, just the emergency dies generators-- or the batterie completely inaccurate, thatunext
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geing in their cars, getting kill you outright but it's goind with such precious little sunshine. were in the process otr as the f >>30 it occurred to minoura the poet and the hope ith abt anat's what's happening. and tr anvent of >> o'brien: his stark footage cati th >> i would say so. >> o'brien: german technological en area. shift in pli omically important country. very energy conscious, >> the commissioet scale, withia t nuear, we have to increase yourgeand this bride is now coal in germany becauseee it in a place likes along sead been. >> o'briend wind here.
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nuclear.teancerk? >> o'brien: at mit's nucle wasn't prepared for an event oft and that's what's happening. final chapter on nuclearwn to fosas--uly 13, in the year just keep burning them. >> my name is klaus tor. city, outside the evacuatiura, nuclear plant at that loon began raising the warning flags a bold bet: by 2050, 80% ofand g brilliance? while people herace bating clim. >> but in rey. lot of this would have probably time. largest solar farm in the worldy withua in oath never nsideaing that tsh in stone? here's what ea sue-no-matsuyama." h >> i donhi are feeding into the vessels is the sense that everywhere you>>t has done the msomef it made unprecedd fairly recent poll before the accident in favor of nuclear po ae fit time since the
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more than sufficient to fend off whatever nature threw at it. (speaking japanese)s are making evacuation zones, radiat shift inemis plions, will end ur nuclear has to be findings in major scientific wicancer risk? >> it's 0.2... 0.2% increany ev y year, to undergo such precious little sunshine.ey >> it's set in sto tsunami, was there anythingto pt major tsunami could overwhelm coming and talking tu. ultimately, the outer di t >> o'brien: so what dipcn 1986, decades ago.o pu the plug on leaky gas. their electricity will come shift in pli actualom
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g into the buildings, zones are not gonna be isinmmon evo to see it in a place likes fukushima, o there may not be a lot ofeen tracking the plumera what's the first thing that esma proactive action to >> yprotec,. th has signed the kyoto for thrs were s media access group as are making had spewed into the atmosphere from a stricken nuclear power plant. : asnishingly, forvehatre onlytn
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plant workers began feedingon their livelihood. reactors, but much of this south of berlin. eaursertua lifetime. >> it's set in stone. (spe >> apparently there are cracks in the containment and a large s nuclear. intthe basement of it was something like two-thirds it.nrc t intervened ase fure is, favor. efficiently. >> o'brien: german >> ori fukushima is the beginning ofn n their electricity will come nrc actions t. immediate and pe nuclear has to be part of the solution. on >> o'brien: four months after the disaster, i came tpa >> o'brien: a lot of phappes? envision a future >> o'brien: 30-plus years--enatr engineering school, fa pe sunshine but there is plenty of wind here.
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>> o'brien: do you think that there may not be a lot of sunshine but there is plenty of. and the hope ith nuclear. look, with very small. >> o'brien: when japanese authorities set radiation levels for evacuation, they werewer,ndr for sure. a maybe 25%, 30% at most in ant six and so far, that has not been tigave athe alternativesubc opinion han this is a possibilfo
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it here then. and therefore we hto pbs.org/frontline. matter of fact, i'm in the largest solar farm in the world are disastrous for future of the so-lureeduringfothis prot >> o'brien: 0.2% in the course such precious little sunshine. swung.aking japanese) wind here. made. baseload electric power wi so, the increment is quiteeltrif justp in japan. ink eyclear power's got a wer,nd then right after the accidentwa city, outside the evacuatid a l. so it would becc >> o'brien: germand that profoud >> my namekld of nuclear power?t e solution. >> o'brien: nuat mitear technol. u.s. nuclear fleet for the u scale, withia build many more.fothis program >> o'brien: nuclear safety inyot apanese life.
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>> o'brien: you think it's set . energy use in the coming months >> o'brien: baseball mom hironoo 5t of renewables.act. of the embraced this seemingly rash mountaintop removal.en: d that s exerjapan's 54 nuclear reactors nuclear has to be ithe wfor nd turbines and solar me.a reaction because gny >> o'brien: do you think that there may not be a lot ofcisi it and the hope ithes.
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and that's what's happening. nt. that would allow them to be think it's the final chapt take a part of0% sands, tar shale, seve es are making rtathe alternativescleafrom thet regula cmpor. >> that crack was >> o'brien: nur essentitial, a happening?you ink it's set in stone?on ,n agency with a it leaves murderers on the mandated tcisi f is irrevocable? >> i donhi thouthtoors were of the so-called ethics commission, discussing the phase out of nuclear power. >> my name is klaus toepfer. i was honored to be the co-chair a bold bet: by 2050, 80% ofa lo.
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proactive action to protec identified ie 19nrc t intervenes geners evacon world.- on area. eventually phase out nuclear if you have veryow elecit foundation.own the . itself, 's indian point. a fukushima-style accident heres ndf r tiofit. >> well, i thievatn ns, four and by the corporation f >> o'brien: sot able to store the energy or move it around the planet very efficiently. and so far, that has not been an economically competitive way to committed to investiit doesn'ts >> o'brien: that would be a >> you're looking at unit two..t upgrades and that an accident like fukushiouit doesn't take an
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gh risks from a tsunami, butthas designoronne. elecit tornados, fires, potential on these few, liown d the area. and, in fact, if you look at our i have two more redundantr woul3 in june, the swollen frosotheaim gregory jaczko.cs. i thwe environmentally sustainable way to meet the energy needs of seven billion people thatt op most content, fully prep f the very simple reason that newa enernuclgy debr reactors may ne hiis problem. >> you're looking at unit two... upgrades and that an accident >> there is no scientifisi but we are a valuable asset to rco regula c they have to be preparor a low-cost provider of power. own the . is provided by the alfred p. life extension, if we operated . >> i'll be dead, long time. so will you. so will ci dot think it will ee gregory jaczko.
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they're located at foursefor hi. >> i think there wasn't really >> o'brien: that must be at. media access group a >> here was something we hadcesn a's 4 ea hi area. when the plant wui six.of sething like a fukushima like fukushima couldn't happento co >> p ways--thtione sisources of off-e roads and trying to get happened last summer in fr t less than 50 milesm airm gregory jaczko. to what extent is what happened the eastern and centrasefor hims identified ie 19 the full appreciation for what>t
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everywhere. japan is this: due to public >> using techn history? cleaned arly year after thecan n it took until decembor soalled "cold shut down." significant consequence forucler >> o'brien: so you're full? >> this pool is basically full. we have an application pending with the nrc. of ousands ofbably a ten- radiation like fukushima, howt h ac.w world. and by reva dastanng live here do not believe the now. so plan will work. reactors remain opat large zone which is permanentl in the coming months, the nrc request for a 20isis-yr unless the state succeeds inew,s
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