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this president can tell us it was someone else's fault. this president can tell us that the next four years he'll get it right. but this president cannot tell us that you're better off today than when he took office. (applause) america's been patient. americans have supported this president in good faith. but today the time has come to turn the page. today the time has come for us to put the disappointment of the last four years behind us, to put aside the deviciveness and the recriminations. to forget about what might have been and to look ahead to what can be. now is the time to restore the promise of america. (applause)
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many americans have given up on this president but they haven't ever thought about giving up. not on themselves. not on each other, and not on american. what is needed in our country today is not complicated or profound. doesn't take a special government commission to tell us what america needs. what american need-- america needs is jobs, lots of jobs. in the richest country in the history of the world, this obama economy has crushed the middle class. family income has fallen by $4,000. but health insurance premiums are higher. food prices are higher. you tillity bills are higher. and gasoline prices, they've doubled. today more americans wake up in poverty than ever before. nearly one out of six americans is living in poverty. look around you, these
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aren't strangers. these are our brothers and sisters, our fellow americans. his policies have not helped create jobs, they've depressed them. and this i can tell you about where president obama would take america. his plan to raise taxes on small business won't add jobs, it would eliminate them. his assault on coal and gas and oil will send energy and manufacturing jobs to china. his trillion dollar cuts to our military will eliminate hundreds of thousands of jobs and also put our security at greater risk. >> boo! >> his $716 billion dollar cut to medicare to finance obamacare will both hurt today's seniors and depress innovation and jobs in medicine. >> boo! >> and his trillion dollar
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deficits, they slow our economy, restrain employment and cause wages to stall. to the majority of americans who now believe that the future will not be better than the past, i can guarantee you this, if barack obama is re-elected, you'll be right. (applause) i'm running for president to help create a better future. a future where everyone who wants a job can find a job, where no senior feels for-- fears for the security of their retirement an america where every parent knows that their child will get an education that leads them to a good job and a bright horizon. and unlike the president, i have a plan to create $12 million new jobs. (cheers and applause)
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paul ryan and i have five steps. first by 2020 norts america will be energy independent by taking full advantage of our oil, our coal, our gas, our nuclear and our renewables. (cheers and applause) >> sequel's give our fellow citizens the skills they need for the jobs of today and the careers of tomorrow. when it comes to the school your child will attend every parent should have a choice and every child should have a chance. (cheers and applause) third, we will make trade work for america by forge new trade agreements. and when nations cheat in
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trade there will be unmistakable consequences. and forth, to assure every entrepreneur and every job creator that their investments in america will not vanish as have those in greece, we will cut the deficit and put america on track to a balanced budget. (cheers and applause) and fifth, we will champion small businesses, america's engine of job growth. that means reducing taxes on business, not raising them. it means simplifying and modernizing the regulations that hurt small business the most. and it means that we must reign in the skyrocketing cost of health care by
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repealing and replacing obama care. >> (cheers and applause) today women are more likely than men to start a business. they need a president who respects and understanding what they do. and let me make this very clear. unlike president obama, i will not raise taxes on the middle class of america. (cheers and applause) as president, i'll protect the sanctity of life, i'll honor the institution of marriage-- (cheers and applause)
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-- and i will guarantee america's first liberty the freedom of religion. (cheers and applause) president obama promised to begin to slow the rise of the oceans. (laughter) and to heal the planet. my promise is to help you and your family. (cheers and applause)
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>> i will begin my presidency with a jobs tour. president obama began his presidency with an apology tour. america, he said, dictated to other nations. no, mr. president, america has freed other nations from dictators. (cheers and applause) >> u.s.a.! u.s.a.! >> every american -- >> u.s.a.! u.s.a.! u.s.a.! u.s.a.! u.s.a.! u.s.a.! u.s.a.!
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u.s.a.! >> every american was relieved the day president obama gave the order and seal team 6 took out osama bin laden. (cheers and applause) on another front, every american is less secure today because he has failed to slow iran's nuclear threat. in his first fv interview he said we should talk to iran. we're still talking and iran's centrifuges are still spinning. president obama has thrown allies like israel under the bus, even as he has relaxed sanctions on castro's cuba,'s ban dawned our friends in poland by walking away from our missile defense commitments. >> boo!. >> but he's eager to give russia's president putin the flexibility he desires after the election. under my administration our
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friends will see more loyalty, and mr. putin will see a little less flexibility and more backbone. (cheers and applause) >> we will honor america's democratic ideals because a free world is a more peaceful world. this is the bipartisan foreign policy legacy of truman and reagan. and under my presidency we'll return to it once again. >> you might have asked yourself if these last years are really the america we want.
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>> no! >> the america that was won for us by the greatest generation. does the america we want borrow a trillion dollars from china? >> no! >> does it fail to find the jobs that are needed for 23 million people and for half the kids graduating from college? >> no! >> are those schools lagging behind the rest of the developed world? >> no! >> and does america that we want succumb to resentment and division among americans? >> no! >> the america we all know has been a story of the many becoming one. uniting to preserve liberty, uniting to build the greatest economy in the world; uniting to save its world from unspeakable darkness. everywhere i go in america there are monuments that list those who have given their lives for america. there is no mention of their race, their party affiliation, or what they did for a living. (cheers and applause)
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they lived and died under a single flag fighting for a single purpose. they pledge add legance to the united states of america. that america, that united america can unleash an economy that will put americans back to work. that will once again lead the world with innovation and product ift and that will restore every father and mother's confidence that their children's future is brighter even than the past. that america, that united america will preserve a military that's so strong no nation would ever dare to test it. (cheers and applause) that america, that america
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that united america will uphold the constellation of rights that were endowed by our creator and codified in our constitution. (cheers and applause) that united america will care for the poor and the sick, will honor and respect the elderly and will give a helping hand to those in need. that america is the best within each of us. that america we want for our children. if i'm elected president of these united states i will work with all my energy and soul to restore that america, to lift our eyes to a better future. that future is our destiny. that future is out there. it is waiting for us. our children deserve it. our nation depends on it. the peace and freedom of the world require it. and with your help we will deliver it. let us begin that future for america tonight! thank you so very much! may god bless you! may god bless the american people!
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and may god bless the united states of america! (cheers and applause) >> woodruff: after a rousing entrance, you know, he walked across the convention floor and stepped up to an extension of the podium mitt romney has accepted the republican nomination for president. he has this convention on its feet. clearly the introduction that together with clint eastwood followed by florida senator marco rubio, set-- set a tone that have allowed him to end this evening. it's about 15 minutes after 11:00 on the east coast. a little later than they planned but it gives him-- and there he is with his vice presidential running mate paul ryan. but it allows him to kick off the rest of this campaign with a boost-- a burst of energy, gwen. >> ifill: that's right there
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is the ticket. that is the photograph will you see in a lot of ads this is a moment n any moment from now, expect them to be joined by their families. first the balloons are beginning to fall. and convention hall, at the tampa forum. >> woodruff: from where we are signature and i will bring in david and mark at this point, david what did you think of the speech. >> you know, when i saw the excerpts i wouldn't slur it hadded pizzazz to be a fine or worthy speech but i thought he dlfered it with exceptional decency. there was a mayberry feel to it. i thought he was very strong on the part where he asked if you are worse off then four years ago. he was very passionate when he talked about enterprise. so i would say it isn't a kingly speech but he is not a kingly kind of guy. i think it was an effective speech and it certainly met his needs, how about you, mark w what do you think. >> i thought that the speech was not historic by any means. i thought he tried to make himself more emotionally available. he tried to-- attacks of
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being a business mogul identified very much as a small businessman and talking about bain as a young enterprise. he sought to mainstream his religion, mormonism by making it a neighbor to neighbor, helping each other out. and i thought there was a tone to it that was less strident certainly than his campaign, reaching out and more in sorrow, the memorable phrase to me was about the president, in fact, well, shoot, hi it here, i'm sorry, that he said the biggest moment you had was the day you voted for him. a sense of disappointment. >> ifill: can i say looking he at the face av romney's grandchildren they were having as much fun as i would be having, the balloons are my favorite part of the whole thing. >> woodruff: those grandchildren and the children, you heard that theme again, you heard it from ann romney on tuesday night and you heard it
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again. in fact, when he teared up, almost teared up in his remarkings tonight, at least he had a lump in his throat. he said what ann and i would give to break up another fight of those five boys. he paid, i thought, pretty special tribute to his wife, david. >> he was certainly not shy and appealing to the women's vote. he hit that theme again and again, even in the context of a small business creation. i thought he did that quite well. and to be honest, he has the record to back that up. his record as governor was very respectful and very egalitarian so that was, as i say, a decent, and i mean that as decency. performing that evoked -- >> mark. >> i think i have never been to a rep coon vention before where, in fact, it was, there was a-- gi one of the speakers about the percentage of women appointed. that would have been
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considered alien territory in an earlier era. but quite frankly, this is an understandable statement of pride on the part of mitt romney and his public record. >> woodruff: watching all of this in washington is our historian richard norton smith and michael beschloss, how did this compare to other speeches like this you've seen, richard. >> i thought it was a powerful indictment, forcefully delivered. the crowd loved it, obviously. i think i managed to do a rather difficult rattle of appealing to the people inside that hall. the and an audience-- . >> woodruff: i think we're having audio problems with you, how but, michael k we hear you. >> you know, i will chime in. gwen and judy. i thought you have to measure these things in a way historically against the top of the scale which i think in recent years were george bush 1988, bill
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clinton 1992. very well written speeches that really reset the public view of their personalities and their aims. this really took a different tact. the advantage of the approach that mitt romney took tonight that as you listened to, his aides said he wrote most of this himself. i think he really did. you really did hear him talking. >> woodruff: go ahead, richard. >> okay, yeah, it seems to me a successful acceptance speech, particularly for a challenger, does three things. if says who am i. what will i do, and how will my actions improve your lives. and this was a speech very heavily weighted on the autobiographical. and indeed this whole evening has been much more about telling us who mitt romney is, introducing us to someone we perhaps haven't seen rather than telling us with any degree of specificity what his presidency would look like in policy terms.
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so the flip side of that is if there is that 6 to 7% truly undecided out there, and they were watching tonight for any kind of road map, i'm not sure they got it. >> let's listen for just a few moments of this ren day days-- rendition of america the beautiful ♪ beautiful ♪ a liberating-- ♪ and once and twice ♪ ♪ they're loving precious life ♪ ♪ america ♪ america ♪ god shed his grace on thee ♪ ♪
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♪ from ♪. >> this is one of the regular part of mitt romney -- >> i was going to say, we heard mitt romney sing this without any accompaniment a few times. >> he las taken a little hit from president obama and a few others. but all in good fun. and this is-- i think he liked it this way better. ♪ from sea to shining sea ♪ america ♪ america ♪ god shed his grace on thee ♪ ♪ in brotherhood snoed snoed
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♪ from sea to shining sea ♪ ♪ in brotherhood ♪ from sea to shining sea (cheers and applause) >> woodruff: this is a moment i love at all these conventions when all the balloons come down and you can't see anybody on the floor and they're all popping and here comes the confetti and all the rest of it, david. >> this is the best balloon drop i've ever seen. usually they drop them all at once and you really can't see, they're very deliberate, they're letting them out slowly, a steady progression. >> a time release. >> so we can see exactly how
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they are being released. >> the big ones are coming down. david, what about the point that we heard richard making, that this was a different task from what, you know, has been typically done. >> you know, he is a guy who as governor hailey barber mentioned earlier in the evening, 59 points, multiple pages of each policy, some smart alecky pundits attacked him for using the power point too much. this was not that i think because he had that reputation for wonkiness coget away with a speech that really was very short on policy. the policies involved, tax cuts up and down including for the rich, middle class, the policies involved restructuring of medicare. and i think if the speech can be-- faulted, insufficient for that because if you win you need a mandate. you have got to tell people what are you going to do or else it is much harder to get it done. so i would say if it is a fault it is on that level. >> we had am mitch mcconnell
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here earlier, the senate republican leader. he acknowledged that it will be a closely divided senate n all likelihood, whatever the results on november 6th. in order to do it, you have to be specific. and-- what was missing was what chris christie talked about. you know, that, where is that sacrifice across-the-board. this was all dessert and no vegetables and really -- >> sorry to interrupt you but we want to find jeff brown in that chaos on the floor. >> i am down here. it is quite a sight to behold from this level of confetti and balloons and people. i felt watching the people down here during the speech, they seemed to cheer at the right times, chant at the right times, laugh at the right times paying rant attention there was one discordant moment early on, i'm not sure if you could see it up there or people at home, right over here a couple of demonstrators stood up and started chanting and held up a sign
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that said people over profits. they were set upon very quickly. the sign was torn down and they were taken away. the crowd started cheering u.s.a., u.s.a.. and there was a longer pause for mitt romney at that point. i don't know if that felt like a-- if it threw off anything early on. he clearly picked it up. the moment went on and the crowd was ranted and very energized. >> woodruff: jeff, we're glad you survived it, i guess, gwen w that burst of balloons and confetti we will say good night it does end our coverage now of this republican national convention in tampa. >> ifill: we'll be back tomorrow night at our regular newshour time with mark shields and david brooks among others. and we'll be in charlotte next week to cover the democratic national convention. that other political party. we'll see you then, with our 24 hour live stream coverage of activities in charlotte that will officially kick off on monday at 10 a.m. in the meantime you can watch the main speeches from here in tampa on our youtube
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captioning sponsored by rose communications >> rose: welcome to our program. we are live this evening from new york, tampa and new hampshire. we just heard mitt romney accept the republican nomination for president. he continues his talk this evening. it's a culmination of this week's efforts to show the american people a side of the candidate they haven't seen
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before. this was the biggest moment of mitt romney's political career. joining me now from tampa is al hunt of bloomberg news. scott pelley of cbs news joins us. i'll begin with this question. based what you've seen so far this evening, is the governor doing what he had to do in his presentation of himself and his vision to the american people? >> charlie, i think he's achieving at least sufficient objective, if you will. from what i've seen so far, and we haven't seen the entire speech, i don't think he's hitting it out of the park. one wouldn't expect that of mitt romney. i think it's a more than adequate speech. and i think it will probably do what he has to do to be competitive in this race to come in probably at the end of the week a little bit ahead. and headed for a very very tight election. >> rose: people thought he had to do two things. number one, he had to explain himself and introduce himself.
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and then secondly, he had to tie that vision of america and of his policy to who he is and how he became who he is. that was the important mission that he had to accomplish. he clearly has told us things about his biography we did not know. we have not heard that much about the vision except in terms of generalities. >> yes, charlie, that's true. i think what else he had to do is sort of weave all that together, was give people a sense that he was the sort of person who understood them and their struggles. that clearly was what he was trying to do tonight. and it's an unfair comparison but i kept thinking what reagan would be like doing that. romney can't quite rise to that occasion. it didn't come across quite as sincere as real or as feeling as it might have. i don't think it was bad. i'm not suggesting in any way he failed, but i'm thinking of that
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voter out there who is really on the fence, who is struggling and wants to vote for romney as a matter of fact but wants to know that romney really gets their problems. not quite sure he got there tonight. >> rose: one thing they seem to be doing, all of the speakers, is try to say that the president simply has failed. good man but he failed. >> yes. yes, they did that and i think they did that consistently throughout the week. i think the criticism of obama, there was a thread throughout almost every speech. we certainly heard it with chris christie, paul lion last night and with mitt romney this evening. fouror five days i think you'll see a somewhat different picture charlie about barack obama. i think the case against obama wasn't strengthened much this week nor did it have to be. people who are not going to vote for barack obama who feel the president hasn't lived up to his potential aren't going to be much changed by speeches at a
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tampa convention that's actually getting a rather low audience comparatively. they are there already. i think what the charge for republicans this week was to really improve their brand name, if you will a little bit and for romney, as i say, really convey the sense of relating to people. and i'm not quite sure whether that was achieved or not but it will be interesting to see over the next few days. charlie i'll say one more thing. there was a surreal feeling about this convention. some conventions the party goes in and they feel exuberant and passionate, reagan in 1980 and obama four years ago. this republicans most of them think they're going to win but they're not passionate or exuberant about the nominee. >> rose: but they may overcome that by their desire to win in this particular election year. let's talk about some other things in terms of this convention. what did you think of marco rubio's speech introducing mitt romney. >> i thought it was very effective. i thought it was maybe the best speech i heard at the
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convention. he had a narrative, he was compelling. he told stories people could understand and could identify with. and i thought it was a very effective speech. >> rose: we have seen a lot of hispanics -- >> more so charlie than -- i'm sorry, i was going to say much more so than dirty harry. >> rose: i don't quite understand that and i look forward to understanding more of it as we get to know how that took place. but it seemed a very strange, perhaps the strangest episode i'd ever seen at a national complit cull convention on the night that the nominee speaks. >> i think it really detracted from the seriousness of it and i think this is an election that's serious. i'm not quite, i think it's a gimmick and not quite sure why they did it. >> rose: let's look what we saw last night with ryan. i wanted to talk to scott pelley too. there are those saying paul ryan made an effective speech and perhaps hurt himself a bit because there's some debate, certainly him with fact checkers about the plant closing and some
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other issues. is there much talk within the political community that ryan should have none better than to do that? >> charlie, if you're asking me -- >> rose: i am asking you. scott hasn't joined us. >> the crowd here in tampa could have cared less about it. i thought it was just an unnecessary miscalculation on his part. why say, why blame barack obama which is what he really did about a planted closing that took place when george bush was president. that was unnecessary. there were all sorts of other examples. a lot of plants have closed over the last three and-a-half years. to try to embrace that when it was his home town was incorrect. i don't think it was a big deal, i don't think it made much difference. people aren't going to remember in. >> rose: it doesn't hurt paul ryan. >> i don't think it hurts paul ryan. yes it does and i think it was just one wonders how that got in, how either the ryan people or the romney people could have
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thought they could have pulled the wool over people's eyes on that. i think ryan gave a very good speech last night, helped himself. but do you know charlie, vice presidential speeches, vice presidentual nominations. in the end it doesn't matter. i remember some awfully good vice presidential speeches and i'm afraid the voters didn't remember seven weeks later. >> rose: two of the issues during this convention we have just seen and i was there with you. one is the number of hispanics who came to speak. elected officials in the republican party. whether it's the governor of new mexico, whether it's looking like the senate candidate in texas who may very well win, attracted people who are hispanics who are holding office who are republicans. >> it's really interesting. there are a lot of those. the governor of nevada also. and the republican party particularly in 2010 did a very good job of electing more hispanics than they had before. that doesn't detract however from what i think is their
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latino problem in this election. we had breakfast this morning with jeb bush who probably along with his brother, and john mccain and few others that really have been the van guard of saying this party has to reach out more to hispanics. and he said all the correct things for romney supporting republican. but you could read between the lines that he thinks this is the party that really really has to do a much better job. he thought that romney could close that huge gap which is almost 3-1 right now. but he didn't feel very confident that romney wouldn't come anywhere close to almost 40% his brother got eight years ago. >> rose: there's also this women and disparity between women who support the president and women who support mitt romney. there is a disparity between men who support mitt romney and men who support barack obama. there was a clear effort to try with ann romney and with condaleesa rice and others to say that women have a place in this party and this party speaks
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to the, with respect for women. you heard the governor tonight talk about the fact that he had, you know, not only ann romney but his chief of staff and a number of people who work with men and women. they clearly are aware of the issues that they have to do to convince women that they understand those issues that most concern them. >> well, you put it correctly, that he does have a female problem, a gender problem and so does barack obama. it's just a male problem and a gender problem. but ann romney was there, condaleesa rice was there this week. but it was interesting. i thought a really really sizeable chunk of the romney speech tonight was devoted to try to address that issue. he cited his mother, he talked about, he talked about his mother's 1970 campaign. this really was trying to say hey, i am on your side. i don't know how effective it was but it's something they clearly are thinking a great deal about. >> rose: it's also clear he did the same thing with the womanism.
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he clearly for the first time addressed it and gave us a deeper sense what it meant to him and his own, how that it was in fact something that had given him not only a deep faith but a moral code of service. >> i think that's right. somewhat more in passing. i doubt he's going to return to that. i think the feeling was that all right they've been criticized because he's ignored it for almost the entire campaign. this was the opportunity to put it out front. i think most republicans don't anticipate it will be an issue in the fall. it was a bit of an issue in the primaries, on the evangelical vote. but charlie, that evangelical voter out there so dislikes barack obama that i don't think they're going to have a hard time voting for a mormon who tends to be a pretty conservative republican. >> rose: now joined by mike murphy who is in manchester, new hampshire. mike give us your reaction to the speech tonight and whether mitt romney did what you believe he had to do. >> well, i think the campaign had a strategy which was to fill
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in a lot of blanks about mitt about a three dimensional person. he suffered from the onslaught of negative advertising. they tried to move with his speech and the things before it, the remarks before it was to show his personal decency, which everybody who knows him knows to be very true, which creates a bit of a disconnect with the negative advertising about character attacks that's come from the other side. so they've served up a big dollop of new information about mitt romney that will help him a lot. i was talking about jobs going forward he can litigate that. he had different strategy and i they he executed the strategy. >> rose: of. >> rose: how did he execute the content of the speech, the delivery. >> this is always going to be a contrast, this campaign between a man of beautiful words and a man of proven action. i don't think mitt romney is a poet. i thought it was a competent
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oration and the message was there and i think mitt romney helped himself. if we're going to have a pure oratory contest, that's what president obama is a genius is at. i think the country had that experience last time and as mitt's speech indicated it's time to size up the results and that's where the mitt romney will have the edge. i thought it was a very competent job by somebody who is not a natural speech giver. but i think it was definitely enough to get the strategy of the campaign across. >> rose: were there omissions from this speech that you wish he had made. >> look, i'm an armchair quarterback sitting up here in new hampshire. i've got a lot of opinions about it but their strategy was to break the character attacks down by the obama guys by showing the old mitt romney who is an old school quiet guy about breaking that through. there were moments in the speech i thought that were quite moving by mitt, about being a young father and watching his kids grow up and things like that. people haven't seen that before and i think that will help him.
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>> rose: i love the idea of his father putting roses by his mother's bedside in the morning. >> she knew he passed away and the one day the rose was not there. >> rose: thank you for joining us from manchester. the humanizing of mitt romney, the warmth of mitt romney that his friends and mike murphy knows him well and you and i have interviewed him. did you see it come through? >> i did, yes. i think mike was right. >> i'm sorry. >> rose: go ahead, al, go ahead and i'll come back to mike. >> i really didn't see it. you know, i don't know it nearly as well as mike murphy does. i'm not sure. i've seen it. i think it's in contrast to his father who was a great, a man of great passion, a man of great exuberance, sometimes anger but he also could very easily connect with working class people. i'm not sure that mitt romney has that ability. i agree with mike. it was certainly a confidence
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speech and i think maybe he should have listened a little bit more to the old quarterback up in new hampshire. >> very very old quarterback with bad knees, i'm not sure. >> rose: you mean strategy turned novelist, is that the same. >> exactly. i think he, the thing about mitt, though, mitt is in some ways, and we're going to find out if the country likes this or not. i hope they did. it's kind of an old school guy about politics. he doesn't wear it on his sleeve, you know, he's much more of an eisenhower type in that there's no therapy culture to the guy at all. so it's a natural for him to kind of embrace the kind of politics we have now. everything is argued by anecdotal evidence and that kind of storytelling politics. it's just not who he is, so i think mitt ought to be who he is, be the results guy and prosecute that. i think this speech did some good at pushing back on all these character attacks we've had.
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those of us who know mitt well, it's therapeutic for us to watch tonight the whole convention just to see the guy we know talked about by some of the case study of people. mitt's got to win this economic argument and it's going to take a path forward and more details and he has to keep prosecuting it every day. i don't think he built that through tonight although i don't think that was their main goal. the goal is to humanize him and they made some real progress there which is good. >> rose: what will be the intersection of the economic argument? will it simply be that the president had a chance and he didn't create jobs and he did not do what was necessary to be done to recover from the back hand that he was handed? >> yes. i mean i think of that's built into the numbers now. they've got to keep prosecuting it. for all the, shall we say, improvisational thrill of the eastwood moment. i think he had one line about when you're not, when the employee's not doing the job you got to let him go. i think that argument does
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resonate with the president. now it's incumbent i think on mitt to show he's got the better path forward and it's not just biography what he has done but what's his plan to get there. he talked about energy, he talked about putting up business. i mean he started that process but that i think is a winning path for him and he's got to put the whole campaign behind it. >> rose: did you think the clint eastwood moment worked? >> i have to confess, i listened to it on the radio driving here to the uplink studio so i never saw the video of it but i tweeted, and i'm an eastwood fan. i think he's a tremendous creative power but actors do well with scripts. i'm not sure. i do think that one remark he had in kind of the vernacular summed what a lot of people think which is you don't have to dislike the president to know the job wasn't done and maybe we got to let him go. >> rose: al. >> i thought it was a mistake. i thought it disbased the
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evening. i'm a great eastwood fan, i love his movies. i have no idea why they did it and i don't think they should have done it. i think marco rubio gave them everything they needed and clint eastwood, i don't think it will be a big deal but i think it was a mistake. >> rose: paul, back to paul ryan, i mentioned earlier to al and i'll talk to scott pelley about it in an interview today. did ryan make a mistake about the controversy a day after his speech about some of the things he said as to their accuracy, mike. >> i think the simpson bolles thing was an error because he voted against the thing. that might have been a stretch. i went back and red what the president said at that general motors plant. i'm from detroit, i'm a big auto industry kind of fan follower. i'm not beating him up over that. they gave those workers a lot of hope about that plant being around a hundred years. that is what politics, politicians do during an
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selection. but i don't know, i didn't think that was an unfair shot. overall i thought ryan's speech was very good. all the young guys, the new generation guys, rubio, ryan. i think they're really shining this convention. you see where the future of the party is. >> rose: does that include christie. >> it does. i predict whoever his speech writer is floating in the river somewhere out there right now. having been pushed out of a plane but swimming back to shore for another crack of it. it happened to clint. al will remember. bill clinton gave a speech that was long and boring people were doing dental surgery in the hall, they were asleep and he came back. so it's foolish to count out chris christie. >> rose: is that the speech in which the audience cheered when he said and finally. >> yes. in conclusion is your biggest applause line, you're in trouble. i don't think christie was in that kind of front, just the under performed expectation. >> charlie, one bit of history. bill clinton was smart enough to go on the tonight show the next
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week to recover. chris christie ought to do something like that right now. >> rose: he understood that. there's also this, which has been an issue in this campaign. it's bain. and how this final night treated the bain issue, both for the people in the house and people who could watch it on cable television. can he get past this bain issue? , mike? >> well, i don't think it's an issue he's ever going to yet unquote win but i think he can narrow the gap. i think he did some of it in the convention program with the staples founder with his old partner bob white. but the argument i want to hear about bain to close the gap is that mitt romney was hired to manage other people's money including endowments and union and pension funds and he did a good job. people trusted him with money that was very important. if you run into burning buildings for 30 years you want that pension check to be there and mitt was that guy. campaign about billion elect mitt romney, i don't believe it will but there's a bain story they're starting to tell now.
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i think they're late that will help him. i don't think people understand bain and there's more imlaition about it that would be helpful. >> rose: the issue isn't whether it helps him but if it hurts him because of the attacks by the obama team. >> they could take the edge by filling in the bain picture more. they let the obama people define it too much. it's complicated. i think people knew what mitt was hired to do with bain and t worked. you manage money for college endowments and scholarships he was good at it, he developed the results. and it's good they get that. >> rose: and the dynamics they created jobs and sports authority they created jobs and staples they created jobs and those are the successes that they can talk about and they did. we may have bob white from the convention center. do we? i was told we had bob white who was there talking about bain. we do not have him yet so he will be coming in.
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there's also the question of other people. marco rubio i mentioned to al. he seemed to me to do as good a job as i've seen by someone who had the responsibility of putting, getting the crowd energized for the main speaker. >> yes, i think he's a huge talent and he's one of the brightest stars of the party. we saw a lot of that tonight. not only his story but he's a communicator. one thing ryan and rubio have in common, two of the younger guys coming to the party, they always caged their arguments about the future and about the american interests. not just partisanship. now you might argue they say they're too conservative, but they're out there trying to sell solutions and they're trying to do a call to arms to make our generation do something like the generations before. that's attractive way to communicate. >> rose: they come across as people beyond simply pragmatic politics. that's clearly.
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but also there's the kind of principle and a philosophy behind how they see their role in america. al, do you agree? >> yes, i do. i think marco rubio gave probably the best speech of this convention. there was a narrative people liked. i want to go to one point mike made. i think mike's absolutely right about the value of the virtue of bain. romney made two mistakes in the primary. number one, he didn't depict bain as a firm that really helped teacher's retirement funds and firemen pension funds, as mike said it was a safe place to ininvestigate. instead he depicted as a job creator. that was a mistake because it was a mixed record on that as are most private equity firms. and i think the second mistake he made was he game the chief immigration basher. that's something he will have difficulty recouping from. i think mike is right, if he told that picture in the beginning of bain it would have been far more successful and less of a problem than it is today. >> i agree with that. one thing that will come out of
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this convention, there was enough new information about mitt that i think now just in the nick of time for the general election because there is some time left that people are going to take another look at it and that's a huge opportunity for mitt romney to expand upon some of the new messages in this convention. and that's what he ought to do. >> rose: stand by guys, we're going to go to scott pelley who has been handling this for cbs news, anchorman who has been overlacking the convention. scott tell me what you thought of the speech tonight and what instruct you as important for mitt romney to do. >> charlie, great to be with you. the candidates are still out on the stage as we speak with their families and the kids are drinking in the moment and they're getting hustled off the stage by their mom it looks like at this pointed. charlie, clearly is this was mitt romney reaching to the common touch. people have asked can a man worth about $250 million
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understands the needs of on middle america. families watching the gas pump roll past $50 during a fill up. he talked about families skipping movie night because they couldn't make ends meet. he talked about factory workers giving up $22 an hour jobs to take two jobs that made $9 an hour. so this was clearly an attempt by the former governor of massachusetts to communicate to the american people that he does understand what their problems are. he is in touch with the middle class. and then the rest of course was barely full throated indictment of the obama administration. >> rose: i would love to get you in on this too and we've got mike murphy in new hampshire and al hunt from bloomberg. this idea of identifying with american optimism. american optimism and exceptionalism is a subject of great concern and debate because of competition in the world. even of jeb bush spoke to it in
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terms of how we've fallen behind in education and that affects the competitiveness of america across a world that is equally, that is every day more challenging. what did you think of that? that theme of recognizing and identifying the american optimism. >> well, it was sort of reaganesque, if you will. there was a film that was shown to the convention a little bit earlier as they were building up toward mitt romney's moment and it was a film about ronald reagan and it was all about his sense of optimism, the shining city on the hill. they've been trying to recall that here, and that was a nod in romney's speech to those days, those heady republican days of ronald reagan. >> rose: mike murphy and al hunt, stay with me scott. the idea of this family, i mean this is clearly a very attractive family of a highlight the relationship there. when you draw a picture of a man who wants to be trusted by
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americans, that adds to his qualities, does it not? >> i believe so. i mean the truth is, i'm very fond of him. he is a square, it is true. but you know, you can disagree with his politics. i know a lot of democrats will never vote for him but he is an incredibly decent human being. i do think that came through and that will help. the more people learn about him outside of the realm of kind of the republican primary he just went through, it will help. now he's got to relate all that to making their lives better in specific ways. because his real enemy is cynicism. here comes another politician promising stuff. he's got to break through that wall because people do want to vote for hope. it's a word we hear a lot in presidential politics when things are bad as they are now, particularly for the middle class, they want to know they can vote maybe to get a better life. if he can break through that and get their k dense because i think there is concern about obama, he will do well.
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if barack obama can keep him in a cage of negative edge that he's the evil stage villain from wall street, he will be in big trouble. >> rose: there's also something i want all of you to comment on this, this motion that this government has been dysfunctional and has been in paralysis, and it faces this fiscal cliff. should the president and should mitt mitt romney be speaking to that that what president obama did post partisanship he did not achieve and we're facing more problems because of the nature of the conflict between parties and they can't agree in the nation's interest whether it's simpson bowles or whether it's a debt feeling. you want to be convinced that somebody can make a difference. there's a leadership that can achieve the kinds of results that we might assume that lyndon johnson could do. >> mitt romney talks a great
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deal as you know, charlie, about being a republican governor in a overwhelmingly democratic state in massachusetts. and he talks a lot about the things that they were able to do in massachusetts by bringing the two parties together. but you didn't hear very much about that in his speech tonight. in fact there may not have been a word in the speech about bipartisanship and healing the breach between the two parties. very good point. and of course he has paul ryan on the ticket. paul ryan is chairman of the house budget committee, and has put together a very partisan budget that is never had a chance of getting through the democratic senate. so the question is, what changes going forward and it was not something that he addressed tonight. >> rose: should he be speaking more about that, al? >> yes, he probably should. i don't want to get walk in here charlie because you know i'm not very good that at. let me raise two substantive issues one given credit and one

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