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captioning sponsored by wpbt >> this is n.b.r. >> susie: good evening everyone. i'm susie gharib. president obama taps a new warrior for the debt ceiling fight. he chooses jacob lew to be the 76th u.s. secretary of the treasury. >> tom: i'm tom hudson. uncle sam wants to make sure you can afford that home loan before you buy. new rules to protect consumers from bad mortgage lenders are on their way. >> susie: and, we look at whether new year's resolutions, to lose weight, can pump up your portfolio. >> tom: that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! >> susie: president obama named today a "low key" washington hand as his new secretary of the
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treasury. jacob lew is being called a man who combines tough bargaining with deep economic understanding and a commitment to protecting the safety net for the poor and the elderly. some republicans have promised to oppose lew's nomination, but most say they are reserving judgment. darren gersh has more on this pivotal player. >> reporter: the president introduced his pick for treasury secretary as a man who gets tough jobs done. and one of those jobs will be protecting programs the president supports. >> as the son of a polish immigrant, as a man of deep and devout faith, jack knows every number on a page, every dollar we budget, every decision we make, has to be an expression of who we wish to be as a nation. >> reporter: the two men enjoy an easy rapport that was clearly on display today. >> thank you mr. president for your trust, your confidence and friendship. serving in your administration has allowed me to live out those values my parents instilled in
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me. >> reporter: lew has been involved with almost every important budget agreement of the last quarter century and his promotion to treasury secretary is taken as a signal the president plans to focus the early part of his second term on taming the deficit. >> jack's been around for a long time. he's a tough dude and i think he is there because there's a knowledge that we're going to have a lot of these debates for a while and we look forward to working with him. >> reporter: while lew is often called the smartest man in the room on the budget, he is a newcomer to global financial issues. one of his biggest challenges will be convincing other countries to cooperate as they seek to rein in their budget deficits. if the united states, germany, japan and the united kingdom all cut spending at the same time, they'll all have less money to spend buying goods from each other. >> and then all of our tax revenues decline because economies are slower then nobody is meeting their budget targets and then somebody else says, "oh well, i better tighten up further and then the cycle starts over again. and the point is we do have to
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pay our bills eventually, but all of us doing it too fast makes it harder for each one of us to pay our bills. and so you need some kind of coordination to keep from making life harder. >> reporter: but if he's confirmed by the senate, lew's first crisis will be finding a way to work with republicans in congress to raise the nation's debt ceiling. if he can survive that battle, global financial fights will probably seem pretty easy. darren gersh, "n.b.r.," washington. >> susie: also in washington today, new rules to protect consumers from risky home loans. the consumer financial protection bureau says the rules make sure home buyers understand exactly what they're getting into, when they take out a loan. lenders now have to determine the borrower's ability to repay the loan. borrowers will have to prove they have a job, meet a minimum credit score, and can afford a loan's monthly payments and related expeespr l e ikoperty taxes. the rules do away with those so- called "no doc" loans where applicants didn't provide any personal financial information,
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and caused the mortgage mess in the financial crisis. >> joining us now to talk more about the new mortgage rules, raj adabi, of the consumer protection bureau. raj, key rates are gone, and fewer balloon payments. how do this change the kinds of mortgages people can get now. >> it is pretty simple. going forward, lenders are going to have to make a reasonable, good faith determination that borrowers can actually repay loans. a return to pretty traditional and conservative underwriting practice. so hopefully the mortgage market can move ahead and return to a vibrant marketplace, as opposed to where we are today. >> susie: do you think it will be easier to get a mortgage? one complaint we always hear is how difficult it is to get a mortgage, even if you have a good credit rating? >> well, almost everyone agrees that today's mortgage marketplace is tighter than it needs to be. this really is a pendulum,
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where credit was way too loose before the crisis, and now it is, by most estimates, way too tight. one of the things that the market needs in order to get to a more normalized place is some certainty around the rules of the road. that's why this rule is so important. some clear, sensible safeguards for costumers and clear rules of the road for lenders. >> susie: even with these rules, there are going to be some people who are going to get a loan who shouldn't, and there are going to be some who should get a mortgage and don't. how do you know you've got this rule right? >> it's a great question, and one that we take very seriously. that's why we have done so much work in empirical research going in to finalize this rule, and why we'll continue to monitor the marketplace going forward. one of the things you want to see is whether or not the penetration of loans to credit-worthy people reaches levels we saw before the great run-up, but in normalized periods.
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and we're not to that place yet. mortgage levels are still tighter than really it should be. >> susie: that is one of the concerns that a lot of people have. there have been so many new rules and regulations put on banks and other lenders, and there are concerns it is going to make the credit market tighter, and more extensive, especially at a time when you need the economy to grow. what do you say to that? >> the reason why that credit market is tight is that the financial system suffered a massive credit-induced trauma not too many years ago. to make sure that the credit markets and the financial system work, we have to make reforms that actually make this marketplace work like any other marketplace. that means you have to have a marketplace that is fair, one that is transparent, and one that has sensible guard rails. that's what this rule does, it is clear and transparent and puts clear rules in place. >> susie: we hope it will be a safer market. thanks so much, raj, for joining us. raj, of the consumer
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protection bureau. >> tom: china's latest trade numbers, out today, suggest global growth is more robust than believed. china's export growth rebounded e arply, in december, hitting a seven month high. here in the u.s., new claims for unemployment insurance rose by 4,000 in the past week, to 371,000. but the number of continuing claims, fell to a four-and-a- half year low. that helped u.s. stocks move higher, the dow rose 80 points, the nasdaq added 16, the s&p up 11. january has historically been the best month to invest in small cap stocks. and this year is off to a strong start. the russell 2000 index of those smaller companies is up 7% in the past month, twice the return of the s&p 500. here's erika miller in new york. >> reporter: large caps tend to get most of the attention on wall street. and they're doing well this year, thanks to the resolution of the fiscal cliff. but it's the small caps that have quietly snuck up to all
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time highs. there's been a lot of muscle in the russell lately. the index of small cap stocks is hovering at record levels. it gained 6% in the past month, double the increase in the s&p 500. small caps are loosely defined as companies with market caps between $300 million and $2 billion. and investors are flocking to those stocks because they do business mainly in the u.s., unlike the large, multinational firms. though the u.s. economy is hardly on fire, it's growing faster than most other countries in the developed world. >> we don't see a recession in the united states. funding liquidity is still pretty strong from the federal reserve. so there's good reason to think that economically sensitive stocks, like small caps, could have a good run in 2013. >> reporter: small companies are also growing their earnings at a much faster rate than the big boys. for the fourth quarter, the s&p 600 index of small caps is expected to post growth of over
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7%, compared to just 2% for the s&p 500. the gap is expected to widen in the first quarter. but it's not a given that small caps will continue to shine. if the federal government slashes spending to trim the deficit, the u.s. economy could slip back into recession. and if that happens, investors could bail out of small caps: >> when you do see volatility spike up. when you do see a lot of problems come into the market, investors tend to go to safe- havens. and that would tend to favor larger cap, more household names. so, its really going to be a tug of war between small cap and large cap, in our opinion. >> reporter: if you do decide to invest in small caps, remember-- they're riskier and more volatile than large caps. it's common for them to fluctuate 5% or more in a trading day, something many investors can't stomach. erika miller, "n.b.r.," new york. n
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>> susie: nutritional marketing firm herbalife hit back today at claims its business model is a pyramid scheme. at an analyst meeting in new york, the company argued herbalife's direct-selling model is legit. activist hedge fund investor bill ackman accused the company of being a "pyramid scheme," saying distributors earn more than 10 times as much from recruitment than they do from selling products. the company called that claim a mis-representation. herbalife sells its products like nutritional supplements and weight loss drinks, directly to consumers. in defending itself, the company's c.e.o. noted today that girl scouts sell cookies directly to consumers. but given the spotlight on its business model, the criticism of herbalife has brought new
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scrutiny. >> the industry as a whole is going to have a difficult time in the next six months or so sorting out what they want to say publicly and what they don't that's going to affect their relationship with their banker say for a line of credit, its going to affect their relationship with their distributors and its really going to affect conversations inside the direct selling association. >> susie: herbalife's chief critic said the company today ignored his arguments. but herbalife said it is open to "every means possible" to protect the company from the accusations. the stock closed slightly lower, at about $39 a share. >> come march 1st, $850 billion in government spending is still scheduled to be cut from the u.s. budget this year. half of the cuts are supposed to come from the defense department. it is the spending part of the fiscal cliff that aims to cut more a trillion dollars in government spending over the next decade. the c.i.a. of keyw, a
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cyber-security firm that does a lot of business with the government. welcome to n.b.r. it is nice to see you. >> thank you, tom. it is nice to be here. >> tom: most of your company's revenue is derived from the government, so what kind of risk does it present for you and your shareholders. >> i don't think you can judge the rest of the business by what we do or what our concerns are because the counterterrorism and cyber-areas of the government, and particularly the intelligence business, which is our focus, are somewhat immune from those kind of cuts. they are the highest priority in the government. of the president's budget, they're the highest priority. so we haven't seen any impact yet. and while we might see some in the future, we're not going to see it nearly as much as the big guys with ships and tanks and those sorts of things. >> tom: you're talking about intel, which is a key spend, a lot of return on investment. with the drawdown expected
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of troops in afghanistan, how could that impact government spending on products like yours in the intel business? >> will affect a number of companies in our business because of the number of employees they have deployed overseas. in our case, the things we're doing overseas will be -- are mission-critical, and will remain important long after we have withdrawn our troops. so it won't have much impact on us, if any, but it will clearly effect a number of companies that have people and resources overseas. >> tom: do you see this as an opportunity for growth for keyw? >> absolutely. the kind of mission and critical work we're doing overseas is useful not only to our government, but to the local governments. yes, we think it is an opportunity. >> tom: you've spent heavily, recently, to expand into that intelligence and defense contracting business, but also expanding into the
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commercial business. what are the opportunities there? >> we're going down what we call a horizontal path, taking the good work we've done for years in the intelligence business down to commercial costumers. we're doing that, i must say, not like many defense companies who say i have a brilliant idea, and let me go and try and sell it to the commercial. we're being drug down this path because of the offerings we have. the opportunities are very significant because everybody is aware of all of the cyber-threats and we have a very important solution. >> tom: where are the profit margins better, in the government business or the commercial business? >> i trust that is a good straight line because they're clearly better in the commercial business. >> tom: keyw, noted for key west, you describe yourself as a jimmy buffett fan. that doesn't seem to go with government intel business, len. >> we're known to be a little weird, both in the company, as well as you have to be a little different to be successful
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in the intelligence business. i think it does fit. >> tom: leonard moodispaw, with keyw. >> susie: american express to verizon investors, relieving its latest earnings about a week before they were due. the reason for that, a major restructuring. the company said it plans to cut 5400 jobs and take a $400 million charge in the fourth quarter. as for those earnings, here are what they are. amex, 1.09 a share, three cents better than estimates. tom, the shares were
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trading slightly lower on the news, down about 1%, to around $60. but it was a surprise to get the earnings on the early side. >> tom: a full week early. and it announced a record amount of money paid out to card holders in rewards. the card spending continues, and the company has to respond with those rewards. we'll take a look at a.x. p., but let's get started with " o our "market focus." and stocksur higher overall. ay dh toit p w today with more pitwsivne e onon the u.s. job market, and datomfrderaraa t china. the s&p 500 was in the green for te eomirntsession, endinirup 0.8%, just shy of a five year high. trading volume picked up to 726 million shares on the big board. over 1.7 billion shares on thend nasdaq. all 10 of the major stock sectors were stronger. the financial sector led the gains, up 1.4%. energy was up 1%. and the telecommunications sector gained 0.8%.
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after the closing bell, the focus remains on finance. american express released its fourth quarter earnings, announcing them a week earlier than expected. earnings came in three cents per share better than expected. but the firm will cut 5,400 jobs, reducing its employee count by 8.5%. american express shares were up 0.9% ending the regular session just below a new 52 week high. and the stock continued rallying in extended hours trading, up another 1%. if that holds through tomyeorw'o en beinopitllg ld w, a ouroewn 12 month high. other financial stocks movingew today included morgan stanley, up 3.7%. it announcei rtswn o oiouf rnd yeyos asset manager legg main ingangin 3.2%. and bank of america was up 3.1%. it led the gainers for the dow. energy stocks were higher as oil prices continue to heat up. oil settled at $932 erper barrel, this is a five month high. cell phone market nokia's fourth
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quarter earnings will be stronger than expected thanks in part to i new lumia smart- phone. shares had a strong response, up 18.7%. vplumumexe oded to almost 300 million shares.ex nokia shipped 4.4 million lumia's in the fourth quarter. still, that's not enough to prevent the company from reporting a drop in total device sales and shipments for the year. ford was the only big american car maker not to take the government bailout at the height of the financial crisis. it issued bonds, revamped it auto line-up, and has profited as auto sales have come back. the company is confident enough in its future to double its dividend to a dime per share, paid quarterly investors and traders liked the confidence. shares were up 2.7%. trading volume was heavier than usual with the stock at an 18 month high. all of the five most actively traded exchange traded products
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and that will hurt earnings. shares of t.i. f.fell 4.5%, and volume was heavier th normal on the selloff. american e eagle outfitter described a look warm holiday, and shares falling 3.3%. the softness in sales stretched to other retailer, including the senit group. it lowered its quarterly financial forecast to disappointing holiday sales. the company warned thatmi bngcg ass t tries to move merchandise. shes%. 7 7%. all of the five most actively traded exchange traded products were higher with the financial fund leading the way, up 1.3%. and that's tonight's "market focus."
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>> tom: americans will spend more than $20 billion this year for something many of them will ignore: a membership to a gym. so while many of us resolve to exercise more in the new year, do fitness stocks fit into an investment portfolio? debra, americans spend a lot of money trying to lose weight, but are there profits for shareholders in that kind of consumer spending? >> well, that's really what is happening in the market right now. you see a lot of traders and investors thinking that they're smart and they're going to buy these stocks up now at the beginning of the year because people pass those new year's resolutions they're going to lose weight and get fit, and
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they think that will play out in the company's first quarter profits and result in earnings. but when you start to dig a little deeper, it may not be the best strate to employ. >> tom: talk to us about weightwatchers. the stock has been rising up to a seven month high. >> that's exactly it. you're seeing that happening. people thinking, wow, this is a great time to buy weightwatchers, aren't i smart? but people are going to their smartphones to lose weight now. there are lots of free apps. weightwatchers does have a mobile app, but they get less money off that mobile app than they do for the in meetings. the big ad campaign was supposed to be jessica simpson, and she got pregnant. and she is now off the plan, and they don't have someone to bring right in to fill in for jessica simpson. it is terrible for them to
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lose her at this time. irthat theira key time shareholders. meantime, the fitness clubs. the small one is town sports, and it owns fitness centers in the mid atlantic. up 37%, but it has been trending lower. compare that to the bigger one, lifetime fitness, which has been rallying, tonight at a nine-month high. >> town sports is known for new york sports clubs. they have quite a few of the big box sports clubs. the problems are that the rent is rising and their employees are costing more, and they're not able to charge as much because they're facing a lot of competition from the cheaper versions, like planet fitness and snap fitness. whereas lifetime is a little nicer sports club, and they're a health-like, fitness-like, in the sense they have dietitians, and they give it a little bit of a medical spin, and that's why people are
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flocking to livetime. it is more expensive. but some people feel like i want to pay more for this nicer club. and that's why they are doing much better. they have food products and supplement products that the new york clubs don't have. >> tom: you can get a bigger and a longer tail on the profit margins with your clients. do you have any stock positions yourself? >> no, i don't. >> tom: we've got more from debra online at thestreet.com, and a link to her full article on our website, you'll find it at n.b.r..com. >> susie: tomorrow on "n.b.r. did consumers "showrooming" instead of "shopping" at best buy hurt holiday sales? we'll find out when the electronics retailer reports its sales numbers. also we'll get a check on earnings at one of the nation's biggest home lenders, as wells fargo reports quarterly results. and our friday market monitor guest is elaine garzarelli, president of garzarelli capital. with all of the budget battles in washington, it's easy to get
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gloomy about america's economic prospects. "easy", but "wrong" says tonight's commentator. here's martin dickson, u.s. managing editor of the financial times. >> months of fiscal uncertainty, and the threat of recession, have hardly helped business confidence. and the sluggish u.s. growth rate, of around 2%, is far from stellar. demand is simply not strong enough to awaken industry's animal spirits but stand back from the fiscal crisis and a more positive picture emerges: at least america is growing, unlike europe, which has been far slower to put its financial house in order. and the reforms to the us financial system, and a gradually healing housing market, are helping lay the groundwork for a sustained recovery. so too are some big changes to the industrial landscape: first, important sectors, notably autos, have been forced to become far more competitive. second, labor costs have shrunk to the point where they make
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america much more competitive with other parts of the world. productivity has been rising sharply. third, the revolution in hydraulic fracking is leading to an oil and gas boom, with lower natural gas prices that will boost many industries. beyond the budget battles, there's a bright future out there. i'm martin dickson. >> tom: finally tonight, flu season is in high gear, and experts warn it could be one of the worst in a decade. the city of boston has already declared a public health emergency. the centers for disease control and prevention says already over 22,000 cases have been reported. by the same time last flu season, just 849 cases had been reported. health experts say we were spoiled by a milder flu season, and already susie, doctors are running short on a key treatment, the tamiflu vaccine.
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cover your mouth, use kleenex and wash your hundrehands and get plenty of sleep. >> susie: and people aren't coming to work. >> tom: a lot of lost productivity. that is our report for n.b.r. on this thursday, january 10th, stay healthy. have a great evening everyone, and you too susie. >> susie: goodnight tom, thanks for watching everyone. we'll see you online at: www.nbr.com and back here tomorrow night. captioning sponsored by wpbt captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wg.org
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