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there, and he's done it his whole life. he's a third-generation dry-land farmer. one day, he's playing in the yard with his granddaughter, who he adores, and she says to him, "papa, what's wrong with your teeth? what's wrong with your mouth?" think about that. you granddaughter. it devastated him. >> he tells you this in the consult? >> he tells us this. he cries at the consult. he can't even bear to face his granddaughter anymore because she looks at him and says, "what's wrong with your mouth?" brady also knew that his mom had dentures. he watched his mother struggle for over 30 years wearing dentures, to the point that, in her later years, she didn't even wear them at all. and he watched her walk around the house with that sunken-in look that people have when they don't have dentures. dentures were not a solution for brady. >> and, by the way, what i'm looking at here, is this -- i mean, this has got to be completely unusual to have teeth this bad. >> this is an everyday patient in one of our centers.
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>> we see the disenfranchised. we see the patient who's a dental refugee. they've tried it all. they've gone in for gum cleanings. they've gone in to have cavities filled. some have had great access. some have not had as good of access. but they've all struggled in some way to hang on to those adult teeth. they're looking for an answer. he saw our ads. now, i know you're gonna look at his teeth when i show you his "after." i know you're going to look at his teeth. but i don't want you to look at his teeth. >> very nice. >> look at his eyes. that's a person who's now alive. look at the "before." >> mm-hmm. >> that's a dead smile. that's a fellow who can't even -- oatmeal is about the toughest thing he can eat. look at the "after." this is a guy who can eat steak. >> and those don't come in and out? what i'm looking at right there? >> no. >> they look like real teeth. >> he brushes them, he flosses them just like you do. that's what people want.
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people -- the patients that i've worked with, they don't even want implants. they surely don't want teeth that snap in and out. they just want regular old teeth. "how do i get that?" well, we get that by using dental implants. because, you know, an implant, randy, is nothing more than an artificial root of the tooth. that's all it is. >> okay. >> you're missing the roots of your teeth that held your teeth in place, we're gonna give you roots back. but you know what? we don't have to put in as many as you had. os supported in each jaw by just four implants. >> so, four implants, a fixed, full arch of teeth. >> yep. screwed in. i can remove it. he can't. >> can he bite into, like, using his front teeth -- >> an apple. >> is that right? >> a steak. >> do they have to be a little careful when they're biting, like, a carrot or whatever? >> they walk into a restaurant, pick up a menu, and order anything they want. >> how old can you be to get this done? >> you know, we've had patients that were very young, 18, 19 years old, that had trauma, accidents, things like that.
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aren't they more likely, though, to fall out if you're 99? >> no. >> no? >> no. not at all. it's a fallacy. it's never too late to have a happy childhood. >> [ laughs ] >> never. >> so, they -- they can eat whatever they want. now, you have a stack of photos. >> i do. >> we're short on time. so, what else are we looking at? >> well, you know, i want you to take a look at this patient. look at those teeth. you can see the wear. you see how they're squared off. you see that she has missing teeth, right? >> mm-hmm. >> those teeth are diseased, all right, because there is gum disease around those t. people don't understand the effect that bad teeth have on their overall health. once you remove those bad teeth, i will tell you, it happens all the time, patients come in and they say, "doc, you know, i had this procedure done six weeks ago. i don't know what happened, but i just feel better. i just feel better." and what's -- >> but if you have -- sorry to interrupt, but if you have bad gums, you could still get this done? >> absolutely. absolutely. by removing the teeth, you stop
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the disease gets into the jawbone itself, there's plenty of bone to be able to do the procedure. and then you get a result like this. >> [ chuckles ] >> now, as a dentist, i can tell you what's really exciting. look at this patient. look at this patient. >> wow. >> if you look at her "before," look at the dark spaces in the back of her mouth. if you look at her "after," there are no more dark spaces. her smile completely fills her mouth. look at how the teeth follow her lip. they have a nice gentle, feminine curve to them. front teeth, are dominant. that's a characteristic of a great natural smile. that's what a prosthodontist does. a prosthodontist is a specialist. he's the artist of the smile. these are the things we got to all the school to -- >> i mean, they look real. i don't think anybody would think -- and i'm not trying -- people need to know this is a real interview, and i don't think anybody would think that that looks phony, right? >> it has to pass the grocery-store test. >> what does she say? i mean, people like this, when they see themselves, they must
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>> shocked, surprised, cry. these were people that were on the outside of dental care. they were the masters of the cover-up. they couldn't pass the grocery-store test. >> what is that? >> the grocery-store test is that woman, when you're checking out and you're right across from her and she looks at you, and she goes, "wow, you have great teeth." that's the grocery-store test. they can't look at you and go, "wow, you have great implants." or "wow, it looks like you must have seen a dentist and had some work done." they just look at you and they go "wow." >> well, she looks like a different person. i don't think anybody would disagree with this. >> sure. >> she looks younger. >> and not everyone is the same. if you look at this gentleman... >> all right. >> all right? again, same thing. spaces between his teeth, broken-off teeth. now, if you look at his smile, it's not like hers. we custom build every smile to match every patient. he's a man. he needs a few things in his smile that's gonna be a little bit different.
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he's got facial hair. these things are different. and that's the excitement for a prosthodontist, working with our patients, we get to custom build every smile to fit that patient's life. >> when this is all done and they're coming back for the follow-ups, right, they have their teeth. you say they act differently, they look differently. >> you don't recognize these people. and i'm not talking about how they look. you don't recognize them from a personality standpoint. when you unleash that human potential, they're confident. i've seen people go out now and th change jobs, get married, start doing the normal things that we all take for granted. because what was holding them back? their teeth, their smile, their embarrassment. >> we're gonna take a quick break. we come back, more about the process and what they can expect. you're watching "the wellness hour." i'm randy alvarez. we'll be right back. >> i didn't realize how bad my smile was, with fillings and root canals. i had to do something. i looked at partial bridges. i looked at dentures.
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for me. >> at clearchoice, we bring hope to millions who suffer from missing or failing teeth with dental implants that look, feel, and function like strong, natural teeth. >> all the specialists, with all the technology they need, are in one spot. it makes delivering this 21st-century world-class dentistry very easy to do, and we do it in one day. >> i can laugh. people crack a joke, and i smile. it was a life-changing thing. >> call today to schedule your free comprehensive consultation and i-cat 3-d imaging scan. weev options while you're here. >> they not only helped to rebuild my smile, but helped me to rebuild my self-confidence. they really set me free. i mean, look at this smile. >> at clearchoice, you're about to discover what you've been missing all these years. call clearchoice today. >> you're watching "the wellness hour." i'm randy alvarez. we're discussing replacing missing teeth with dental implants. according to my first guest, no more dentures. i've had dentists on this program. >> sure. >> and i know you like fixed
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implants snap in, snap out." and i asked you about that on the phone. >> sure. >> and you said, "i don't like that. i don't like snap in, snap out." why? >> [ sighs ] well, let me try to be a little politically correct here. lookit, i don't want to say anything against my colleagues, but i will tell you why i don't like it. >> okay. >> because my patients don't like it. there's a lot of maintenance that has to go along with those. snaps have to be replaced because snaps wear out. what a lot of people don't understand is, when you just put the implann of the mouth, you continue to lose bone in the back. you know, as soon as you take the root of the tooth out of the bone, the bone says, "geez, we don't need to be here anymore." so the bone starts to dissolve away. well, if you just have implants in the front, the bone stays there, but you start to lose the bone in the back. so, after a year or two, that plate starts to rock, has to be realigned. so, there's realigns, re-fittings. >> interesting. >> my patients would come to me and say, "hey, is there a better way? can't i just have teeth that i don't have to take out, so i
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it's because of what my patients want that i haven't done any sort of a snap-in in almost 10 years now. >> okay, so, we have time for some more photos. >> sure. i mean, these are our average patients. these are patients that we see on a routine basis, that they come in every day. you look at that and you see all kinds of problems going on there. >> so, these type of teeth... >> sure. >> i don't know what's going on there, but that's got to be rare. i mean, i don't see it. you say it's common. >> you know why you don't see it? they're the master of the cover-up. this iw >> all right. >> they go like this when they talk to you. they are masters at covering that up because they still have to function in the public. they're in the grocery store, they're in the library, you know, they're in the gas station, they're all around. but they live in the shadows, they live in the shadows. i had a patient one time, worked for the newspaper. she loved her job at the newspaper. you know what it was? >> what? >> delivering the paper at
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no one could see her. she told me that -- she described her life as being like the back page of the newspaper. no one looks at the back page of the newspaper, randy. and what she was hoping to accomplish, her vision, her future, was that if she had this procedure done, her life -- and this is heartbreaking, but her life could become front page again. front page. the part of the paper that you interact with and you see. she wanted to come out of the these people are all around us, they're all around you. they're just masters of the cover-up. >> so, all of those teeth had to go? she was headed for dentures? >> she was headed for dentures. >> let's take a look at this. oh, my goodness. >> and now you look at a set of teeth that are custom-built to fit her face. look how they fill her mouth. look how they follow the lip. and every patient has input into color and shape of their teeth. so, we get to work with our
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craft a photograph if you were a photographer. >> she looks, like, more sophisticated in the "after." >> let me ask you this, randy. let me ask you this. if you were hiring here... >> okay. >> ...and the "before" walked in, and then the "after" walked in, who would you hire? >> well, if one -- >> who would you say was the more confident, outgoing, the person who was, "wow, that really made an impression on me." >> well, if one person is smiling and one person isn't, obviously the one that looks >> sure. >> in fact, as you mention that, it's funny, who would i hire, one almost looks more intelligent just because of her teeth. >> that's how we judge people. we judge people by their smile. it's one of the first things we look at, right, in that first three to five seconds when we meet someone. we're looking at their teeth. and if their teeth look good, our eye moves by it and we move on to something else. but if their teeth look bad, it's like -- have you ever had a conversation with someone that had bad teeth, and you can't stop staring at their teeth?
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because it's abnormal. it doesn't look normal. that's what these people suffer their whole life. imagine that disability. let me show you this next patient. >> all right. >> this is a patient i love. because a lot of these patients i've showed you are older patients, right? they've had a lifetime of wear. look at this patient. she's young. through a variety of bad things that have happened to her, she's lost all of her back teeth. she has an executive position. she believes it's holding her speak up in a meeting for fear of smiling... >> she's embarrassed of her smile. >> ...and showing that she has no back teeth. exactly. and you talk about lost human potential in such a young person. and in one day -- one day -- we can help her. >> wow. she looked like a kid, almost, in the "before." she looks like a woman now. >> unleashing human potential. >> you say that. you know, when you came on the show, at the very beginning of the program, you were saying things like that, and it just
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but, you know, after looking at these photos, you can see that it is a change. it's a major change. >> i don't believe it, randy. i know it, because i see it happen every day. it's extraordinary. we can reliably and predictably do it. we can do it in one day, and help these patients regain back their life. >> back to the denture wearers. i know a few denture wearers, right? >> uh-huh. >> and they never complain. they seem to be fine with their dentures. are you saying that most people don't like their dentures? >> randy, listen to yourself. >> [ chuckles ] okay. >> you're not a dentist. why d their denture? >> all right, okay. >> if they wanted to do a tv show, they might talk to you about that. i'm a dentist. i get people talking to me about how much they hate their dentures all the time. all the time. the life of a denture wearer is not fun. they're always completely filling that thing with adhesive and making sure it's stuck in so that it won't move. they're always walking into a restaurant and have to really be selective over what they can eat. they have to be careful about
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loud for fear that their dentures might fall out or shoot across the room. it's a disability. >> good, good. i mean, we are rushed for time. >> i just have a couple more i'd like to share with you. >> two more photos. >> i mean, look at this patient, another young person. now, if -- >> oh, boy. >> "oh, boy." what do you mean by "oh, boy"? if that person walked in here... >> young to have those kind of teeth. >> very young. very young. you know, through an unfortunate set of circumstances, got on the merry-go-round of misery, couldn't get off, and was finally facing dentures. is when you're that age, and you're a woman, especially, that you're going to have to wear a denture? and you watched your grandmother wear one, and you watched it disfigure her face? but in just one day -- i mean, look at that. she completely changed. it doesn't even look like the same woman. she changed her hairstyle -- >> pretty smile. >> look at her eyes. look at her eyes. the self-esteem that these patients now show, and the health -- we haven't really touched on the health, but these
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they feel healthy. because this chronic infection, which they've been fighting for years and years and years, has been rid out of their body. it's extraordinary. >> and you do it all right there. >> we do it all right there. in one day. >> are they skeptical, by the way? 'cause a lot of people see, you know, some of the advertisements. but are they skeptical? >> no. no. i tell people, "listen, if you are skeptical, all's you have to do is come in. we're gonna show you around the center. you might even talk to some of these patients in the halls. it's not just our story. how we can unleash your human potential." >> you have one more photo. >> i do. we don't talk about guys a lot because guys don't like to talk about their smile. here's a fellow who, his teeth were so loose, right -- his favorite thing in the world? barbecue on sundays. have the family over, barbecue it up. you know what? he couldn't eat the barbecue anymore because his teeth were so loose from gum disease. he knew he didn't want to wear dentures. he just -- that whole thought --
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and fitting up into the roof of his mouth wasn't going to work. he was an excellent candidate. and now -- look at him at the barbecue on sundays now. he can bite into chicken, ribs. >> what about pain? we haven't talked about pain. it does seem painful. >> pain is a relative thing. first of all, when you have the procedure done, you're going to be sedated. so you're gonna be very comfortable. afterwards, i can tell you, i've had patients that took one pain pill the night of the procedure, and maybe just took an advil the next day. swelling is the biggest area of you're gonna look like a little bit of a chipmunk, like you had your third molars removed. we have you use ice. but the pain is very controllable. >> okay, good. now, we're out of time. so, final message to a patient that, of course, they haven't been to the dentist, maybe, like you said, 10 years, 15 years. they know they don't want a denture. and then, of course, to the denture wearer, that they've been in dentures maybe 10 or 30 years, and they're skeptical, maybe. >> sure. >> what do you say to them?
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about a customized plan to help you achieve the smile of your dreams, because we want to help you to be able to unleash your human potential. >> it's a free consultation, right? >> it's a free consultation. >> so they might as well come in, right, and get a consultation? >> i don't care how hopeless you think it is, we can help. >> thanks for coming on the show. >> thank you for having me. >> great info. you've been watching "the wellness hour." i'm randy alvarez. for now, i wish you good health. >> thanks for watching "the wellness hour," the leader in medical news, with your host, randy alvarez, the authority on health issues. >> i didn't realize how bad my smile was, with fillings and root canals. i had to do something. i looked at partial bridges. i looked at dentures. out of all the options, clearchoice was the only choice for me. >> at clearchoice, we bring hope to millions who suffer from missing or failing teeth with dental implants that look, feel, and function like strong, natural teeth. >> all the specialists, with all the technology they need, are in one spot.
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one day away from perhaps the most watched debate in american history. >> i'm going to be very respectful of her. >> you have to be prepared for wacky stuff that comes at you. that determines who will become the next president? donald trump adviser general mike flynn and the hillary clinton chairman both join me live. plus debate prep school. one moment can change everything. >> i can't. the third one i can't. sorry. oops. >> how the presidential candidates plan to knock their opponents off stride. i will talk to two former campaign managers who have been inside the war room before.
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this about donald trump -- >> this man is a pathological liar. he's a bully. a narcissist at a level this kae country hasn't seen. >> what's behind his change of heart? >> two police shootings this week. >> don't shoot him. >> peaceful protests are growing around the country as we grapple with the question, what can be done to keep this from happening? joining me for insight and analysise goodwin, hugh hewill, gwef ifil and mike murphy. welcome to sunday. it's "meet the press." good sunday morning. it's an nfl sunday. really, this feels like a pregame show. the big game is tomorrow night on new york's long island.
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expected. usually the first debate is the most important campaign moment until the next debate. probably not this time. hillary clinton comes in with nervous democrats feelin a little bit better about things. four national polls showed clinton up. three of the polls she's up by six points. in today's washington post/abc po poll she's up by two. some show donald trump doing better and have a path. trump has never been more there's a sense if clinton doesn't knock him out tomorrow, she may never be able to before november. both sides are engaging in psychological gamesmanship. the clinton campaign has placed mark cuban, a huge trump critic, up front in the audience as a way to rattle trump. in response, as hard as this is to believe, trump has invited gennifer flowers to sit in the front who had an affair with
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one thing we know for sure, the two candidates are taking very different approaches, getting ready for tomorrow night's big debate. while trump huddles, clinton is in her home. both preparing for the most important presidential debate in decades. >> you are going to hear donald trump doing a lot of trash talking. >> the >> she's a slob. she ate like a pig. >> on stage, clinton will try to get under trump's skin. >> excuse me. i have given my answer. >> the challenge for clinton, predicting which trump will show up. >> people ask, are you going to go out there and do this and that? i don't know that. >> will trump lose his cool, be impatient, be too subdued or be crass. >> he referred to my hands. if they're small, something else must be small. i guarantee you, there's no problem.
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>> or will trump be able to rise above the temperament questions and throw clinton off her game? >> he needs to worry about first of all not taking the bait from her and following her attacks. second of all, trump needs to make sure he is readied to talk about policy in a way that matches her. >> trump is watching videos to spot clinton's vulnerability. doing no formal mock debates. >> how >> i'm here. >> his campaign trying to turn his restlessness with preparation into an asset. >> i don't think he is locked up for two weeks like other people have been or currently are. cramming their heads with microchips and binders. >> trump can't afford to stumble on substance and he has to avoid looking like a bully. as for clinton, she's not afraid of going negative. >> your profusion of comments about your feelings toward
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strange given what you said about him in 2011. >> and she's had her best performances when opponents came off as snarky. >> i don't think i'm that bad. >> you are likeable enough. >> or rude. >> we will shake on this. >> i want your signature. >> she can sometimes become defensive, particularly on questions of character. >> i communicated about classified material on a howh her lawyerly explanation. >> for hillary clinton, sometimes for that -- that wall seems like it's 25 feet wide for people. at the more that she lets people through the doors, the better off she's going to be. >> both prepare for the most consequential day of this campaign. >> while you can't win an election in a debate, you can certainly lose one. >> joining me is the chairman of the clinton campaign. welcome to "meet the press."
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>> hillary clinton has prepped for 38 debates since she ran for office in 2000. how is the preparation for this one different? >> look, she takes the debate preparation very seriously. she respects the american public. she wants to tell them what she wa wants to do for them. it's about laying down policies she thinks will improve the economy. make it an economy working for everyone and not just for people at the top. she has a donald trump says things that aren't true. he comes in and he was rated liar of the year last year. this week, "the new york times" did a graphic of the 12 whoppers of the week. she's got to be able to both make that positive case but also not let donald trump get away with what he is likely to do, which is to make stuff up. >> it's clear that temperament,
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hill. i want to play for you ads that you are running. 14 ads you have unveiled, 13 of them have to do with trump's temperament. >> donald trump doesn't see people like me. he just sees disability. >> how would you answer that? what sacrifice have you made. >> i think i've made a lot of sacrifices. built great structures. i have had tremendous success. >> he's a xenophobic bigot. >> all it takes is one wrong move. >> i would bomb the [ bleep ] out of them. >> just one. >> what if the donald trump you are portraying is not the donald trump that shows up on stage monday night? >> there's only one donald trump. i think he has run the race in a way that those ads i think fairly show. but i think again, you showed an ad about disability. what hillary wants to do is what
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positive case about how we build an inclusive economy, make spaces for everyone. donald trump will have to think about what he said in the past. his disparagement of that reporter that you saw in the screen with disabilities. going to have to think about the names he called to families, to mexicans, to muslims. you know, he may try to -- he is a good television performer. he may try to adjust for that in the deba campaign that way. >> is your goal of this debate is to get under his skin? is that why you gave mark cuban a ticket in the front row? >> no. i think mark cuban is one of the business leaders who was never involved who has endorsed hillary, because he thinks she will do better for the economy. you saw his reaction which is to do his favorite short, to dive in the sewer and go for a swim.
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forward to him. he has been a very strong surrogate for her from the time he went to his hometown of pittsburgh and gave her a full endorsement she would be best for the economy. >> you referred to diving into the sewer. you believe that inviting gennifer flowers is diving into the sewer? >> you know, i will leave it to mr. trump to decide what he will do. but i think that -- what he will do tomorrow night. but i think that he is predictable when you little bit, he comes back and attacks whoever is doing it. that's why he got in so much trouble when he attacked the khan family. that's what he does. that's who he is. that's why he is dangerous. >> one of the things that hillary clinton has to do is restore this issue of trust with the voters. wasn't to play a debate clip from earlier this week. it was a congressional debate
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former republican governor, turned democrat. he was asked about supporting hillary clinton. here is his answer and the reaction to his answer. >> the thing i like most about her is i believe she's steady. i believe she's strong. i believe she's honest. and i look forward to voting for her. >> it was when he says the world honest, the crowd groaned. you hear laughter. this issue of honest a trustworthiness, how much progress night on restoring some trust and how does she do it? >> look, i think she has to talk directly to the american people about what she wants to do. i think when you think about what's honest about her, it's that from the day she got -- left law school, she has been a champion for women, for children, for families. she's done it all her life. she's gotten real results for people in contrast, donald trump has been about himself.
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them and talking about a future that is going to be brighter, more optimistic and improving their lives. >> very quickly, today's "new york times" has an extensive report on the ties of hillary clinton to goldman sachs. it talks about various ways they have been close, whether it's the paid speeches, whether it was supporting a philanthropic ra state department. does this undermine secretary clinton's credibility that she can be tough on wall street, that she has so many close ties to one of wall street's biggest brands? >> that story was -- again, it was kind of false equivalency. what it said was she supported a philanthropic program that gave 10,000 entrepreneurs around the world a chance to get started. what she has done is put forward what everyone agreed, including "the new york times" itself, that is the most comprehensive
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in contrast, donald trump wants to wipe away dodd-frank, everything that has been done to make sure that wall street doesn't wreck main street again. what she wants to do is make sure that there is no institution too big to fail and no individual too big to jail. i think she has pursued a very aggressive path on wall street. >> thanks for your time this morning. >> thanks. joining me now is retired general michael flynn, former director of the defense intelligence agency and a top adviser to donald trump. he has been in the room for debate prep sessions. welcome to the show. >> thanks for having me. >> let me start with this -- the public perception is that donald trump isn't doing the same type of preparation for this debate that hillary clinton is. the campaign manager said she's
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for two weeks. eric trump suggested he doesn't need to be rehearsing flash cards. are you concerned though that the preparation is enough? >> so a couple things. the very last thing that john just said is no individual too big to jail. that should include people like hillary clinton. five people around her have had -- have been given immunity to include her former chief of staff. when you are given immunity, that means you have probably committed a crime. i don't know how he can sit there and say something like that with all the things that have been going around just swirling around hillary clinton with her e-mails. in terms of preparation, to answer your question, donald trump has been preparing. you know, it's like where is hillary clinton this week? donald trump has been in pennsylvania. he has been in florida. he has been in ohio. i was with him last night in virginia. he is out speaking to the american public, large groups, small groups.
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message to the american public. that's why you are seeing the shift in the polls. one of the things i think that you ought to do is not only talk about where the polls are today but where they were a week ago or two weeks ago. huge, huge shifts. the way we feel, the way i feel is that there's a huge shift in momentum. the american public are starting to wake up. >> you are confident that he is going to be able to pass the commander in chief test? so many of the actinational security world whether former pentagon staffers, bush appointees, former service, letter after letter just hundreds of former national security professionals who say they cannot endorse donald trump. how does he convince a public that he is up to the job when so many folks who have worked closely with you, closely with others, believe he is unfit for the job? >> there are hundreds -- there
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said just the opposite thing about donald trump's ability to be commander in chief, ability to be the president of the united states and kind of move this country forward in the right direction. a lot of those names on those lists -- i look very closely at these things. some of the things that they say. they offer no solutions. these are people that represent the past. they represent so many of the failed policies and really the stupid decisions that were made that have kept us in this perpetual conflict that we are in in the like afghanistan. god, we have to cherish our military and veterans. but i'm going to tell you the decisions that put us there, many of those people that are on those lists are the ones that actually put us there. >> have i you are a general. does he know more than you? >> let me tell you, i have been advising donald trump for over a year now. he is a great listener. one of the things he has -- what
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donald trump brings a strategic leadership -- a sense of who we are as america and how do we make america first? how do we bring america forward? how do we improve our economy, our military? there's so many things that we have to get fixed in our country right now. just look at what's going on in the current situation. >> i want to follow up and state on the debate here. in response to the invitation that hillary clinton made to mark cuban, donald trump tweeted that he has gener gennifer flowers to the debate. should we expect to see her? >> the debate will be the most watched show in the history of tv. donald trump has been out speaking to the american public and they have been listening and they have been hearing. you said it up front when you talked about the shift in the polls. the momentum is on donald
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we need a new direction in this country. >> what about this -- can you confirm this gennifer flowers talk? has she been invited to do this? do you feel it's appropriate? >> i would just go with what you have seen. we will wait to see what happens tomorrow night. >> do you think it's appropriate? >> i'm sorry? >> do you think it's appropriate to invite gennifer the bait? >> was it appropriate to invite mark cuban? he's not a legitimate person. why is he invited? again, i would leave this tit for tat. this is about the big issues that this country is worried about. i'm worried about, that's the reason why i'm sitting here this morning with you. our country needs to go in a different direction. it's failing in many ways. we're struggling. the difference between the bubble of washington, d.c. and
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vast -- there's a gap right now. people in this country want to see big leadership. that's what donald trump provides. >> we will be watching tomorrow night. general flynn, thanks for coming on. later in the broadcast, we will go inside the debate prep war rooms. i will talk to two who have prepped candidates. when we come back -- >> this man is a pathological liar, a narcissist at a don't think this country has seen. >> what's behind ted cruz's decision to endorse donald trump after all? to get you all psyched up for tomorrow night's debate, we will show you highlights from donald trump and hillary clinton. debate moments they have been participated in, beginning with this from one of clinton's 2008 debates with then senator barack obama. >> what can you say to the voters of new hampshire on this stage tonight who see a resume and like it but are hesitating on the likability issue where
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doris kearns-goodwin who has an interview with the president. and hugh hewitt. there's one topic -- i want to spend a couple minutes on the ted cruz news. as you know, this is what ted cruz said about -- said about donald trump -- fiery donald trump three days before he dropped out. here is a >> you are a coward. this man is a pathological liar. a bully. a narcissist at a level i don't think this country has ever seen. >> mike murphy, he is now an endorser. >> i think the editors of believe and absolutely nothing magazine have a new cover. he made the big move of the convention some people thought it was to the point of rudeness. he distanced from trump. he claimed principals.
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now threatened with a primary in texas, a 180. it looks very cynical. >> how does he -- can he recover from this? is he a portrait, hugh, of transactional politician? his chief super pac donors became trump's. kelly anne conway is with trump now. you have a congressman thinking about challenging, rick perry. this f political force. >> i have to disagree. i talked to the senator monday. i talked to his people yesterday. i disagree he is in trouble in texas. i think he got what he needed from trump. what wasn't a race is now a race. in august, when you oppose donald trump at the convention, no one thinks he is within ten points of secretary clinton. now the supreme court is in balance. if you look at the list that mr. trump released to add to the names, you will see a very
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she's a clerk and a thomas clerk and a marine corps aide. she's a terrific judge as were the other ones. ted cruz is playing with the supreme court. >> it wasn't enough for him six weeks ago and it is now? >> the problem is, beware of ambition. teddy ro teddy roosevelt did almost the same thing. many good republicans decided we can't go with said, i gotta go with my party. he said, i betrayed myself. will never do that again. he betrayed the never trump people. they were with him. they were with his principals. i wonder how he will feel about it. >> i have to put -- there's a meme going around. ted cruz's favorite movie is princess bride. look here.
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you know, i understand the supreme court thing. if that were true -- i understand that set the principals he laid out. except they were not long ago. it wasn't that donald trump is more likely to be president than he was when he was more likely to be nominee. ted cruz is playing a game for ted cruz which obviously -- maybe there's a dancing with the stars slot. maybe it's time for ted cruz, texas politicians on dancing. this wasn't even a this was a capitulation. i guess we will see clearly why. but i don't know it changes votes. >> you are a never trumper. you are in that world. did you feel betrayed? >> no. i have always thought cruz is a cynic. but i think politically, this is for him than a normal politician. cruz has always presented himself as the one guy who is uncompromised by washington, the one man against the machine. the creature of principal.
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that's kryptonite for him. i agree the best argument is supreme court. but where i fall apart on the supreme court with trump is it requires trust in trump. that's the bridge i can't cross. >> to do it before the debate. i have to say, hugh, that's -- what if everything that cruz said about trump in may comes true tomorrow night? >> i just have to disagree with everyone. the difference is that trump was not viable in july. he is not only viable, he is ahead now. >> you are making the political argument? you are >> i can now save the supreme court. because a justice appointed by secretary clinton will change the court in ways profound that will last for 40 years. ted cruz is a constitutional scholar, he is a genuine originalist. >> do you agree that this is not about whether the supreme court so much as to whether ted cruz can survive? we're talking about him. that wasn't going to happen. >> he will win a primary in texas easily.
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mccall. >> just being back in the air again. if you are a politician and you haven't been listened to for a while, how fun to be back. it's almost -- >> okay. i don't know. >> watch that primary. i'm not sure. there's the potential for a great primary. >> i will pause here. we have more to go both on debate and the other big story of the week. later we will talk about the police shooting in north carolina. >> don't shoot him. he has no weapon. he has no weapon. >> plus, the shooting in tulsa, oklahoma, and the question everyone is asking, what can we do to stop this from happening? whether we come back, inside the war room. what goes on in the debate prep sessions? will talk to two insiders who have been in the sessions and have prepped presidential candidates. and as we go to break, here is a memorable donald trump debate moment from earlier this primary season. >> let's see. i'm at 42. you are at 3. so far i'm doing better.
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be presidential tomorrow. or whether hillary clinton can be more likeable and avoid being too lawyerly. joining me now are two people who have been in those debate war rooms before and have faced what donald rumsfeld might have called the unknowns. stephanie was the deputy campaign manager for president obama's re-election in 2012 and was part of the debate preparation kerry in 2004. welcome to you both. stephanie, let me start with you and the idea of gamesmanship. which is the clinton campaign deciding to put mark cuban in the front row. obviously, the donald trump campaign may or may not be following through with trump's pledge to bring gennifer flowers. my guess is others are trying to talk him out of it. did you this in '04.
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some 9/11 widows in the audience in 2004, just to make the point that we had a lot of work to do to get back on track in afghanistan and iraq took us off course. iraq took us off course because of bush not telling truth about weapons of mass destruction. what clinton and trump are doing are trying to throw each other off their game. the difference is, hillary clinton is doing it with a celebrity. as john put it earlier on your show, trump is just jumping right down in the sewer and swimming by inviting gennifer flowers. part of what you want do is reinforce a positive about your campaign or make a legitimate point about your opponent. what he is doing is not going to help him. >> it would have made more sense had trump responded with bringing a grieving mother of
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members. th that seems to be would have been the counter that would have made sense. >> you just saw the effectiveness of the tactic. it was designed to provoke donald trump. it provoked donald trump into going down the gennifer flowers rabbit hole as opposed to what you are suggesting. tomorrow, one of the big tests that donald trump has on this debate stage, can he comport himself like an american president should comport hims is he going to be able to be seen by the american people as a plausible commander in chief, somebody who could address the nation in a crisis? i think she's going to try to push his buttons all through this debate and get a volcanic eruption like you saw throughout the primary debates. >> steve, i will start with you. you used rob portman in 2008 as -- for john mccain to stand
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how important did you find the mock debate for john mccain? i think if i remember, there was some concern that president bush didn't do enough preparation before the first debate in '04. >> look, i think that if you look at incumbent presidents. you saw it with president oboe ma in 2012. it's hard to tell the incumbent president, time to practice. they pay for it when they the preps. it was a real live fire scenario for the candidates. he was exquisitely prepared. he was tough. and he gave a very accurate and precise preview what was coming at john mccain. there's no question that john mccain's performances were better because of the preparation he went through with rob portman. >> stephanie, i know you used john kerry as the stand-in for
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ryans. a personal spokesperson for hillary clinton. he is playing donald trump. it's interesting that i guess the idea was to find somebody that could be snarky enough and feel comfortable going after hillary clinton in a small room. >> well, that's certainly felipe. he will know how to push her buttons. i think it was a brilliant choice. what you want to do in these prep sessions is do -- roll play every potential scenario so that you have a good understanding of react. whether they can keep their cool when they have the right judgement to go on attack or they are keeping in mind their larger vision that they need to communicate to the american people. i think felipe testing secretary clinton's limits is very important. because we don't know -- no one has ever debated somebody like donald trump on a presidential debate stage. we don't know exactly who is showing up. >> final question for both of you. part of the debate prep process
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to prep for the post spin game. every cycle it gets faster and faster. the way the debate gets perceived is suddenly goes faster and faster. stephanie, what did you learn right and wrong from 2012 about the necessity of being prepared for that? >> well, we were prepared but we were prepared as if we were in a 2008 campaign instead of 2012. what we hadn't realized is what a powerful tool twitter was going to be in defining the we could see the narrative being set in the first 15 minutes of the debate. who knows what's going to happen this year in 2016? every year it's a different format, it's a different technology. but you have to understand how people communicate and how quickly narratives can get set. by the time you get in the spin room, it's done. >> what's harder these days, preparing for the debate or the post debate fallout? >> when you go into the spin
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the verdict of what happened in this debate will be rendered by the middle of the debate. certainly, by the end, by social media. the ability of the campaign teams to come out to be able to tell the american people, here is what really happened when 80 million-plus people just saw it, just those days are gone. what the campaigns need to do here is to communicate completely, what are they trying to accomplish? managing expectations on the front side important. >> steve, stephanie, all right, we're given the longest pregame you could have for a debate. we're doing it the day before. thank you both. we'll be back in a moment with one group donald trump needs help with. it's not the voting groups you might think. >> i'm asking you to sign it. >> well, i would be happy to, when you give me the signed letters -- >> right here. sign it right now. >> we will shake on this. >> i want your signature.
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