i have hair. >> yeah, it's great. >> i have hair! [ chuckles ] ? >> announcer: did you know 25% of men will experience hair loss starting at age 21, and 30% of women will experience thinning hair by the age of 30? no matter your age or your degree of hair loss, hair club has the solution for your need. >> i was in my early 20s and looked like i was in my 30s. now i feel like i finally look my age. yo a picture of yourself now and look younger than you did when you were 22. >> life is different. i mean, i feel more confident, outgoing. looking at what i see now, it's almost night and day. you know, it makes you feel like a whole different guy. >> i can take a photo and show everybody how full my hair is and just be confident about it. and i just feel good. i don't feel like i have to hide anything. >> when you see the old photos of me, you can see i had no hair

now i have hair, right? it's there. >> the hair club really gave my hair back. it's natural. it's my hair. feels great. i look younger. >> now i'm just so positive, and i at least look, i would say, five years younger. >> i feel so much happier because i look so much younger. >> when i looked in the mirror for the first time, it was like, "oh, my god. why did i wait so long to do this?" >> xtrands plus has given my back my youth. that's what i love to think. it's given back my youth. ? medium-stage hair loss, xtrands was the ideal solution for me. but that's me. if you have extreme hair loss, then xtrands plus is likely your best answer. if you have pattern baldness or want extra volume, xtrands or hair transplantation could be right for you. and if you just want to stop hair loss in its tracks, then the ext program or hair club's brand-new laser therapy could be your solution.

individualized and personalized, and one of them is our laser technology. it's really great for men and women, and it's clinical-strength technology that they're able to bring home, where it's gonna stimulate their blood flow, increasing their follicle size, thickening the hair that they've got and slowing down the hair loss. >> i have been a hair-transplant surgeon for 15 years. and over that time, the technology has changed tremendously. it's gone from relatively large grafts with an uneven appearance that all of us have seen, to virtually undetect r follicular units of one, two, and three hairs in a method that does not leave a linear scar, and that is called follicular unit extraction, and that's one thing we specialize in. >> one of our most effective solutions with hair club is our ext, which is our extreme hair therapy. and it's proven to work. it's a specially formulated shampoo with a conditioner. and then there's an enzyme scalp cleanser that preps the follicles to open up.

go deep into where the roots are, allowing the stimulation of the hair to work faster. so, it's really great, because my clients can see in a timely manner that it's working. >> it makes me very proud to work at hair club, because we've had 40 years of success. and we have all the cutting-edge technology, all of the resources necessary to bring all of the best and latest and greatest solutions that are scientifically proven. we're constantly growing and improving, so we're at the point now where we can help everybody ? >> announcer: whether you're looking for more volume, a little extra coverage, or complete crown coverage, hair club has the answer. >> what people don't realize about the hair club is that you can walk into a hair club office and get, for free, comprehensive information about hair loss -- stuff you can't get anywhere else. you get an experienced consultant to work with you, you get the view of your own

and scalp analyzer, you get the explanation of all the options for treatment, all at no charge, and you don't have to feel so alone anymore. >> announcer: just call for your free information kit and dvd at no obligation. get the facts about our full range of tested and proven solutions. this vital new information, endorsed by prominent physicians, can change your life. pick up the phone right now and we'll rush it to you for fe. as an added bonus, we'll also give you, for free, a private we'll identify your specific needs so there's no guesswork, customize a solution that is right for you, and back it up with our ironclad 100% satisfaction guarantee. >> it was pretty amazing to be able to walk into hair club and, a few hours later, walk out with a full head of hair. it was fantastic. >> i feel great. it's like i have a new lease on life. >> this whole planet has become

conscious about your appearance and it bothers you, do something about it. >> announcer: call now for your free information kit and dvd, and your free hair analysis worth $150, all backed up by our ironclad 100% satisfaction guarantee. this is a limited-time offer, so call today. look younger, feel younger with hair club. ? >> no one likes to look old, and let's face it, hair loss makes you look older. it's not an easy thing to talk about. and it's that "not talking about it" part that can leave people feeling alone. well, the folks at hair club can put an end to that feeling. they have solutions for every stage of hair loss. hair club will customize the right proven solution to your specific need, and back it up

satisfaction. if you're not 100% satisfied with the option you choose, hair club will apply your initial purchase price to any of its other proven hair-loss solutions. so there's no guesswork, only the best possible outcome. ? >> if you feel like you've tried everything, and nothing has worked, come in and see us. what makes hair club so unique is that we have customized solutions based on everyone's individual needs. the most from all of our clients is that they wish they had done this so long ago. like, "what a waste of time feeling unattractive or incomplete." and it's so rewarding. that's really what i wake up to go to work for every day, is to hear that i'm making a difference in someone's life that didn't think that there was hope. >> the minute you notice that you're starting to thin or if somebody points it out or you see a picture or you see yourself on video or any way that you notice that you're losing hair, that would be the best time to come in.

whether you want to restore the hair that you've lost, whether you want to just maintain what you have, we can help anyone that comes into hair club. you just have to actually come in the door. ? >> joining me now, we have tina, one of hair club's leading stylists, and two beautiful hair club clients -- susan and alyssa. welcome to all of you. tina, i know how embarrassing, firsthand, how thinning hair and losing one's hair can be for a man -- very embarrassing. but for a woman, hair loss can just be devastating. >> it is absolutely devastating for a woman. and at hair club, we've been working with men and women who have been suffering from hair loss for over 40 years. so we really know how to work with those clients and make them feel like they're not alone. >> with extreme hair loss, for a woman, susan, it's got to be so lonely and so -- you must feel so isolated. >> i think that effect on women is just so much more devastating.

street, and i'll see some guy who's balding, and you know, i might feel bad for him. but i know, for me, nobody expects a woman to be balding. and nobody expects to see scalp on a woman. it's just not even in the, you know, way people think about women. and i mean, our hair is our crowning glory. and if we don't feel good, it doesn't matter what you have on, how your makeup looks, how you're dressed. when your hair doesn't look good, you really don't feel saying. it's really true. you just don't feel good when your hair is not right. >> alyssa, at your age, when you started losing your hair, i can't even imagine how hard that would have been to go through high school, dealing with classmates, social media, all of that. it must have just been so tough. >> it was. it was something i never talked about, because i didn't -- first of all, i didn't want people to know, even though you knew by looking at me. and it was really tough being in

i was bullied, you know? i didn't want to be around people, because of the things that they would say. and it was really -- it was really tough. and even when i would try wigs on, i wouldn't want anybody to know, 'cause that was embarrassing to say, "oh, i'm 15, 16, and i'm wearing a wig." >> your situation could have truly ruined your life. >> mm-hmm. >> and instead, hair club really gave you your life back by giving you back your hair. >> it totally did. i feel like a completely new rs i love going outside. i love -- i'm just walking around town, people come up and they say, "you have great hair." i can put heat on my hair. i can curl it. i can make it look however i want, and i love it. i love how versatile it is. >> absolutely. and look at your hair. it's gorgeous. >> it's so much fun. you know, i was worried about my wedding day and what i would look like. it was really depressing to think. but now i'm like, "i'm ready for it." i can't wait. my hair is gonna look beautiful. i'm so excited, yeah. >> it looks beautiful now.

nobody would ever know. >> that's what's so perfect about it. people do not know. you cannot tell. and it was illuminating to go into hair club and see how many other women. i had no idea. >> mm-hmm. >> alyssa, what would you tell women who are watching and still wondering if this is for them? >> i would tell them to visit a hair club as soon as possible, because it changes your life. it makes you feel like a completely new person. it really does. >> susan, agree? >> completely agree, completely agree. >> [ chuckles ] >> make that call, like, right away. don't do this to yourself anymore. don't suffer with it anymore. >> announcer: at hair club, we understand that coping with hair loss can be difficult, but finding the right solution should never be. just call for your free information kit and dvd at no obligation. get the facts about our full range of tested and proven solutions. this vital new information, endorsed by prominent

we'll rush it to you for free. as an added bonus, we'll also give you, for free, a private hair analysis worth $150. we'll identify your specific needs so there's no guesswork, customize a solution that is right for you, and back it up with our ironclad 100% satisfaction guarantee. if you are not 100% satisfied with the option you choose, hair club will apply your initial purchase price to any of our proven hair-loss solut. whether you're looking to stop hair loss in its tracks, add more volume, a little extra coverage, or complete crown coverage, hair club has the answer. >> when i went in there, they were friendly, discreet, and i felt like it was a team of people that were all working with me to help me get my hair back. >> it was pretty amazing to be able to walk into hair club and, a few hours later, walk out with a full head of hair. it was fantastic. >> looking at what i see now, it's almost night and day.

was so good that it would look this natural, i wouldn't have hesitated a minute. i would have done this 20 years ago. >> announcer: call now for your free information kit and dvd, and your free hair analysis worth $150, all backed up by our ironclad 100% satisfaction guarantee. this is a limited-time offer, so call today. look younger, feel younger with hair club. ? >> at hair club, we understand that hair loss can be a very emotional and personal issue. so the wonderful thing is, when you come in, we have a very discreet and private environment. it's a consultation room where it's just you and myself or a consultant there to help you, and everything is kept completely confidential. >> there is no obligation. there is no expense. it's simply a way to get good,

information about the approved treatments for hair loss -- what works. you're in a place where there's a lot of experience knowing what works. that is the best advantage of coming to hair club. >> i think, when people come in to meet with me, they're really -- they can't believe everything is gonna be free. like, "oh, you're gonna do the scope analysis, and it's free? you're gonna talk to me about my hair problem, and it's free?" yes, of course it's all free. there's no obligation at all. i think people need to feel comfortable. they need to feel confident. forward. ? >> hair loss runs in the family, and my father had lost hair here in the middle and in the front. same with my brother. my hair loss started in my early 20s. and i just felt like i was getting older, and i was losing my hair and i put on a lot of weight. and my wife still looked amazing, and i was starting to fall apart. so i realized i had to reinvest in myself. i remember picking up the phone and dialing that morning and

afternoon. everything was free. it was a free consultation. they sat down, they took the time to help me out, explained everything to me. and the next week, i started on the ext program. and i looked at the "before" picture, how thin my hair was on top and in the front. i just can't believe that was me. i got all my hair back, and everything feels great. i look great. i feel younger. i want to share what happened with me with people out there that are going through the exact same thing that i did. >> i can't begin to explain how much dre women just look at you instead of saying, "oh, hey, you know, he's cute, but..." now, he's just "cute," and i feel good on the inside, i feel great on the outside, and now i just feel great altogether. >> i felt as though my world was crumbling and crumbling before me. but when i found hair club, it gave me back my life. >> i love my hair. i can go out, and self-confidence is just incredible. >> if you're a guy with hair

situation. part of you thinks you should just live with it, it's no big deal. but of course it is a big deal. but then, if you want to do something about your hair loss, you kind of feel like it's not manly. for a long time, that's how i felt. but here's the thing -- i guarantee that the moment you actually do something about your hair loss and come to hair club, the moment you see yourself with hair again, you'll wish you'd done it sooner. i took one afternoon off work, walked into hair club with a growing bald spot, and walked out with a full head of hair, feeling young again. xtrands really was the perfect solution for me. but that's me. your hair loss might be a little more advanced, in which case xtrands plus is your answer. or you may find that a topical solution or laser technology is right for you, or even hair transplantation. until you come into hair club and have your free hair analysis, it's just guesswork. hair club eliminates that guesswork.

your side helping you every step of the way. here's how you can get your free hair analysis at a hair club near you. >> announcer: with over 900 experts across north america and backed by 40 years of tested and proven results, hair club provides exclusive technologies and proven solutions for every stage of hair loss and every hair-loss problem. just call for your free information kit and dvd at no obligation. get the facts about our full solutions. this vital new information, endorsed by prominent physicians, can change your life. pick up the phone right now and we'll rush it to you for free. as an added bonus, we'll also give you, for free, a private hair analysis worth $150. we'll identify your specific needs so there's no guesswork, customize a solution that is right for you, and back it up with our ironclad 100% satisfaction guarantee.

with the option you choose, hair club will apply your initial purchase price to any of our proven hair-loss solutions. >> at hair club, we understand what it's like to lose your hair, and we understand what it's like to get it back, and we would like you to have that experience. hair club is uniquely positioned to treat hair loss because we offer a variety of solutions. this is why it's important to come into hair club and have your unique individual situation evaluated. >> announcer: call now for your free information kit and dvd, and your free hair asi worth $150, all backed up by our ironclad 100% satisfaction guarantee. this is a limited-time offer, so call today. look younger, feel younger with hair club. ? >> for men, it can be

have hair loss or that your hair loss even bothers you. for women, the problem of hair loss can be devastating. >> it was sort of... it was like a -- you know, like a -- like a scar, almost, right? you can see it, and there isn't any way for me to cover it up. i did try extensions, and it was a nightmare. the glue really stuck to my hair, and it pulled my hair out. and that was the first and last time i ever used extensions. i, um, thought, "okay, well, what could i do next?" and so i went online and i did some research. and i found hair club. and hair club had so many options. but i really liked xtrands because it was chemical-free, it was natural, and it was easy. i just was astonished. and i was always afraid to pull it back, but now i can pull it back, and i don't feel self-conscious about it.

a ponytail, and i just feel so comfortable. you know, i feel young and vibrant, and i think that's what any woman wants to feel. ? >> announcer: did you know, most people have 100,000 scalp hairs that follow a natural growth cycle? and on average, you lose between 50 and 100 hairs each day. whatever your cause of hair loss, from pattern baldness to stress, hormones, even customize the right proven solution to your specific need, and back it up with our 100% commitment to satisfaction. if you are not 100% satisfied with the option you choose, hair club will apply your initial purchase price to any of its other proven hair-loss solutions. >> with hair club, you have 40 years of success, with teams of experts all across the country, where we're all here to help you realize you can get your hair back, too. >> just absolutely come in.

we're here to help you. you're gonna meet someone like me. hopefully, you think that i seem nice. [ chuckles ] i'm here to help you. that's my job, is to be there for you. >> if you're bothered by your hair loss, come on in, find out what your options are. the only thing you have to lose by waiting is more hair. >> the combination of a stressful job, being a police officer, bad weaves, bad braids, chemical treatments that would recipe for devastating hair loss. i wanted to fix it. i wanted to hide the hair loss. so, of course, i would continue to braid, but braiding the hair was making it worse, causing stress on the roots, causing the follicles to die. weaving, trying to cover the problem again, by covering the problem, was making the problem worse. i felt helpless and hopeless. i didn't know what to do.

dream come true. when i look at myself now, it's given me back my youth. that's what i love to think. it's -- it's given me back my youth. it's -- it's taken years off my life. and it's fantastic. and i can't be more thankful. ? >> there's a reason hair club has been in business for 40 years. there's a reason they're so trusted. it's because they only use solutions that have been tested and proven -- technologies that have been fda-cleared, new aesthetic solutions like xtrands and xtrands plus that not only restore your confidence but they're not a source of shame themselves, because they're so undetectable and so advanced. most importantly, the folks at hair club understand the nature of hair loss -- that you can't solve a personal problem with an impersonal solution. it takes the analysis by your hair-loss expert and the experience of your stylist to customize the right solution for

hair club. and this was me by the end of my visit -- a same-day transformation, thanks to xtrands. hair club had an answer for me, and they'll have an answer for you. call and set up your free hair analysis right now. >> i wish i would have done this 10 years earlier than i did. >> now i look in the mirror and i just can't believe that's me. >> i feel great. it's like i have a new lease on life. >> announcer: whether you have receding hair, thinning hair, or advanced hair loss, it's a harsh reality -- hair loss addar to your appearance. but now you can change that with hair club, the number-one customized hair-loss solution provider in north america. hair club is dedicated to giving you more hair and more confidence so you look younger. >> i'm 52, and i look better now than i did when i was in my 40s. >> i look better today than i did at 40. >> i love it. i really do. it has changed my outlook on life. >> announcer: at hair club, we understand that coping with

finding the right solution should never be. with over 900 experts across north america and backed by 40 years of tested and proven results, hair club provides exclusive technologies and proven solutions for every stage of hair loss and every hair-loss problem. just call for your free information kit and dvd at no obligation. get the facts about our full range of tested and proven solutions. this vital new information, endorsed by prominent physicians, can change your pick up the phone right now and we'll rush it to you for free. as an added bonus, we'll also give you, for free, a private hair analysis worth $150. we'll identify your specific needs so there's no guesswork, customize a solution that is right for you, and back it up with our ironclad 100% satisfaction guarantee. whether you're looking to stop hair loss in its tracks, add more volume, a little extra coverage, or complete crown

answer. >> at hair club, we understand what it's like to lose your hair, and we understand what it's like to get it back, and we would like you to have that experience. hair club is uniquely positioned to treat hair loss because we offer a variety of solutions. >> i am so much more confident. i feel so sexy with my hair. >> i looked in the mirror for the first time, it was like, "oh, my god, why did i wait so long to do this?" >> this whole planet has become very conscious about appearance. and i think that if you are conscious about your appearance and it bothers you, do something about it. >> announcer: call now for your free information kit and dvd, and your free hair analysis worth $150, all backed up by our ironclad 100% satisfaction guarantee. this is a limited-time offer, so call today. look younger, feel younger with hair club.

this has been a paid presentation for hair club, produced by schulberg mediaworks. this sunday, trump's terrible week. a rough debate. 3:00 a.m. tweets. and an obsession with the 1996 miss universe. >> she was the winner, and you know, she gained a massive amount of weight. and it was a real problem. >> now, a report that trump could have avoided paying taxes or 18 years. i'll talk to trump supporter rudy giuliani and clinton campaign manager robby mook.

what effect? i'll take to anti-establishment voices from the left and right. michael moore and glenn beck. also, the vp debate. how much will tuesday's pence-kain face-off matter? and live from new york, it is "snl." >> he hasn't released his tax returns, which means he's either not that rich. >> wrong. >> the not that charitable. >> wrong. >> or never paid taxes in his life. >> warmer. >> jin the cook political report. mark halperin, managing editor of bloomberg politics. maria, ceo of voto latino. and the editor of the "national review." welcome to sunday. it's "meet the press." >> announcer: from nbc news in washington, this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. >> surprise, it's october. donald trump's bad week may have gotten a lot worse.

front page expose that trump declared a loss of $916 million on his 1995 tax return. which means it could have allowed him to avoid paying federal income taxes on nearly $1 billion worth of income over an 18-year period. all legal, by the way. the losses came from mismanagement of three casinos, his airplane and the plaza hotel in new york. the "times" received the documents in the mail anonymously, with a return address of trump tower. hi retired, verified them. the clinton campaign said, this bomb shell report reveals the colossal nature of trump's failures. trump's campaign said he's paid hundreds of millions in state, local and federal taxes. trump tweeted this this morning. i know our complex tax laws better than anyone who has ever run for president and am the only one who can fix them.

denial of anything in the "times" report. this comes at the end of a week where trump followed an unsteady debate performance with a parade of outbursts on television, twitter and the trail. it all came as he was closing the gap with clin nmhillary cli >> i don't think she's even loyal to bill if you want to know the truth. really, folks, really, why should she be, right? >> reporter: just when he looks competitive, trump veers off message. >> that person was a mi universe person, and she was the worst we ever had. the worst. >> reporter: trump's inability to control his own emotions is standing between himself and the presidency. >> what's happened to our jobs. >> reporter: instead of talking about jobs and trade, clinton's e-mail controversy or a mideast spinning out of control, he spent five days attacking 1996 miss universe winner. >> what were the names he called you?

housekeeping, miss eating machine. >> she was the winning, and you know, she gained a massive amount of weight. it was a real problem. >> reporter: when the controversy was dying down, it was trump who kept it alive. in a 3:00 a.m. treat storm. did clinton help out disgusting become a u.s. citizen to use her in the debate? >> his latest twitter meltdown is unhinged, even for >> reporter: schwartz was trump's ghostwriter for "the art of the deal." >> he is like an untrained rottweiler. he bites someone and puts someone in jeopardy. >> reporter: every poll shows that trump lost the debate. trump isn't buying it. >> every single online poll said we won, which is great. >> from early on in his life with his father and later whith his mentor, the advice was the same, which is, never surrender,

>> reporter: trump is acting as if he lost, attacking the clinton's marital history in the interview with the ""new york times."" saying, quote, she is nasty but i can be nastier than she ever can be. >> he can say whatever he wants to say. >> reporter: trump's supporters embraced the idea of a flawed messenger who they say can shake up washington, but even they have become spectacle. >> i wish he'd talk about things he'll change and that's it. stop this petty stuff, you know. a beauty queen from how many years ago? >> 20. >> reporter: surrogates say he'll lose if he doesn't rein himself? >> this has been a week which has hurt him and shaken his own supporters. you can't tweet at 3:00 in the morning. there's no excuse ever, not if you're going to be the president of the united states. >> jioining me is a top adviser

>> thank you. >> respond to newt gingrich there. he said, this has been a lost week. do you disagree with that? >> yeah, i disagree with that. i think donald trump did really well in the debate. i think he accomplished what he had to accomplish, which is he showed that he understands the economy better than hillary clinton. she demonstrated she has no understanding of the economy at all. she was just completely lost in her answer to how we're going to bring back jobs in america. it just taxeeo is the reason they've been driven out of america. i thought on foreign policy, he displayed a better understanding of islamic terrorism. >> on monday, you tweeted, this debate was not trump's best, but there are still two more. >> i didn't tweet that. it's not my tweet. >> okay. fair enough. >> i never said that. that's somebody pretending to be me. there are about four of them out there that pretend to be me. >> okay. so you thought everything went

could do? >> no. i think he could be a lot better. look, we're all debaters, and i'm a lawyer, so i can always find four or five more things you could have done. i thought, for example, when she brought up cyber security, it was an excellent chance to point out how she's been the worst violator of cyber security so far in the history of the united states. she's exposed more of our top secret documents than any secretary of state in history. if i were to analyze the debate, there were two or three opportunities he could have delivered a knockout blow and he didn't take them. >> finish your thought. >> we have more debates coming. >> fair enough. let me ask you about the "new york times" story this morning, where now, there is some evidence that he didn't -- legally avoided paying federal income taxes on almost $1 billion worth of income because of losses he obtained in his businesses. is it important now for donald

ns? many even of his supporters, including a guy like roger stone, thinks he ought to release his tax returns. >> this points out one of the reasons why releasing tax returns is so bad. the "new york times" writes this long story, and then somewhere around paragraph 18, they point out there was no wrongdoing. now, people have a hard time understanding how taxes work. if donald trump hadn't taken those losses, he could have been sued by his investors. business partners. when i run a business, and i run a business, and i don't take advantage of the five deductions that are available to me, even if you think those deductions are unfair, then i violated my fiduciary duty. i have clients that take losses like that, and i advise them, you have to take those losses. otherwise, you're not doing your job. >> the very people he wants to work for, when they basically

goes away, you know, they don't have this kind of ability. i mean, this is basically a deduction that benefits wealthy businessmen. he failed at his businesses, the first three businesses were failures, and then he was able to get a tax break for the failure on the next $1 billion of income. look, it's all legal. should it be? >> that's a good question. but it is and it was. we're talking about 21 years ago. if it, he would have been sued. maybe someone doesn't want to put out the tax returns because someone will distort it that way. the reality is, he is a genius. what he did was he took advantage of something that could save his enterprise, and he did something we admire in america. he came back. the "art of the deal" is all about that. so did steve jobs and winston churchill. churchill was thrown out of politics twice and came back.

then they came thotake those fa and return them into results. i'd rather have a genius like trump other than hillary clinton, just getting jobs for the fbi. >> you think it is a good example to basically be able to avoid paying federal taxes? take advantage of loopholes, where somebody wealthy can avoid paying the federal taxes? i understand it is legal. but is this the right thing we >> first of all, a lot of the people that are poor take advantage of loopholes and pay no taxes. those are loopholes, also, and they pay no taxes. also, no matter who you are, if you have a $30 operating loss, you can carry it forward to the next year. poor people take advantage of that, also. now, do i think the tax code should be simplified? absolutely. will he do away with things like that? he's probably better positioned than anyone because he

i'd rather are a genius who understands the tax code and wants to reform it. he is against giving hedge fund guys the big break they get in paying only 15% tax. you have to figure out who you're working for. there, he was working for private interest and has to take advantage of those rules. no wrongdoing. if he could have these kinds of results for us in america, we wouldn't be having 1.5% recovery. we'd be having 5% recovery. >> all right. plus -- millions of dollars in taxes. state taxes. local taxes. >> we don't know that. how do we know that without him releasing the tax return? >> if he didn't, he'd be in jail. that's why. he'd be sitting behind bars if he didn't pay taxes, sales tax, property tax. >> i understand that. >> he'd be in jail. >> we don't know how much it was. we can take your word for it. >> all you have to do is look at his 104-page financial

figure out the tax rate and figure out what he paid. since they didn't put him in jail, i can guarantee he paid it. >> what did you mean when you talked about monica lewinsky and hillary clinton. if he didn't know what bill clinton was doing, she was too stupid to be president? >> after the long, long history of bill clinton, gennifer flowers, 27 people making claims against him, including a settlement with one of them where it was obviously true, when lewinsky, to presetend it was false -- >> she was wrong to stand by her husband? >> no, to attack the person. >> you are able to give this charge? >> i prosecuted people that had raped. >> you have your own infidelities. >> i confess it to my priest. i've never attacked someone who

abuse. not only that, i've been put in jail who have been the victims of sexual abuse and i never participated in that. you're bringing up my personal life, and it's irrelevant to what hillary clinton did. she's running for president, i'm not. a woman who pretends to be a feminist shouldn't be taking money from countries where women are stoned, where women are killed for adultery is and women can't drive. she's taken hundreds of millions from those countries. >> mr. mayor, i'll leave there. >> thank you. >> appreciate you sharing your views. joining me from the other side, hillary clinton campaign manager, robby mook. mr. mook, welcome to the show. >> good morning. >> i want to play a new ad that the trump campaign is hitting on hillary clinton and get you to respond to it on the other side. >> why aren't i 50 points ahead, you might ask? >> maybe it's because the director of the fbi said you lied about your e-mails. >> there was classified material e-mails. >> maybe it's because your policies allowed isis and

or maybe it's because you call americans deplorable. >> so it's that last part, the deplorable, and everything they've put together in the ad. anything in that ad that tells you it is not an effective hit on secretary clinton? >> well, a lot of it simply isn't true. you know, the fbi said that there was not -- no wrongdoing, that they would bring against secretary clinton. i think a lot of the people that stand by donald trump are say are deplorable. you know, trump has had a really bad week. he failed in the debate. he has spun out of control subsequent to that, insulting machado. his 3:00 a.m. tweet storm. you know, his campaign is spinning out. they're grasping for anything that they can to throw mud back. secretary clinton is going to keep on the campaign trail, talking about how she's actually going to make a difference in

you know, this morning we see donald trump as having to defend the fact that he may not have paid taxes for 20 years, which is something most americans don't have the option to do. so we're just going to stay focused on how she's going to create jobs. >> but are you -- >> and get wages rising. >> with everything that has come out on donald trump, all of the different hits that have come out on donald trump and, yet, you're not 50 points ahead. if anything, race. he does have a path to 270. he can win. everything that's happened, and he can still win. is that a reflection on what the country thinks of hillary clinton? >> no. i think it's a reflection that the presidential campaign process is competitive. our country, fortunately or unfortunately, is very polarized right now. people fall into their different camps. and people are concerned. they want to see change.

particularly since this debate, is that donald trump isn't going to present that change in any way whatsoever. we talk about the rigged system. donald trump embodies that. the idea he didn't have to pay taxes for 20 years, or at least that's what the "new york times" is telling us. we feel very good about where we are, but this will be competitive till the end and we'll have to work hard. >> you guys are struggling to win over voters under the age of 30. new audio has come out from a fundraiser from earlier this year, when secretary c she described some of sanders' supporters as kids that are essentially still living in their parents' basement. was that meant to be a shot at sanders' supporters? >> well, chuck, actually, i'm glad you asked this question. and i really encourage everybody to listen to that full audio. the original piece that came out on it had to have the headline changed because it completely mischaracterized what she was talking about. she was talking about young

from college and went into an economy where they couldn't find the job they wanted. >> didn't help that the folks laughed when she said that at the fundraiser. >> well, when i listened to it, i didn't hear it that way at all. i heard her reflecting the things that she's hearing when she's out campaigning. in fact, of these two candidates, she's the only one who has presented a real plan to create jobs and a real plan to help families afford college. she and bernie sanders worked together on a new colle compact that will create tuition-free education for people and families earning under $125,000 a year. >> quickly, i know you're not pulling out of ohio, but -- >> not at all. >> -- it's clear the numbers aren't great. do you view ohio as a must-win state anymore? >> i actually don't even accept that premise. ohio is a battleground state. i think either candidate can win it. we're working incredibly hard. i think secretary clinton can win it and we'll work to make sure it happens.

for hillary clinton. i'll leave it there. >> thanks, chuck. anti-establishment opinion is trumping the elites this campaign season. i'll be joined by a film maker, michael moore, on the left, and broadcaster glenn beck on the right to talk about. later, they're back. "saturday night live" takes on the 2016 campaign. >> he hasn't released his tax returns, which means he's either not that rich. >> wrong. >> not that charitable. >> wrong. >> wrong. >> or welcome to the world 2116, you can fly across town in minutes the globe in under an hour. whole communities are living on mars and solar satellites provide earth with unlimited clean power. in less than a century, boeing took the world from seaplanes to space planes, across the universe and beyond. and if you thought that was amazing, you just wait. ? ?

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welcome back. the panel is here. maria, president and ceo of voto latina, the editor of the cook report. and michael halperin. correction here. rudy giuliani was right, it was a parody account we got that. what he said the night of the debate was, he did think, as he clarified, he said, i would skip the next debates if i were trump. that is the correct aspect there of rudy giuliani. mark halperin, tax returns. what we have this morning, how bombshelly is it? >> the first of many october surprises. the "times" chose to publish on october 1st and i think we'll see more from both of them. i don't think this is as big a deal as the "times" blew it up to be. we didn't learn anything new.

didn't pay federal taxes. the story says he might not have. i think americans are going to -- the clinton campaign will continue to press on it. americans who think this is a bad thing, that he won't release the returns, will continue to go for it. i don't think it is a dominant factor and i don't think it'll change the race much. >> how do you think rudy defending it is smart? >> i wouldn't go with the poor people exploit attack system, too, argument. >> was that a mistake? >> he came around to the, he he can fix it. that argument for trump had much more traction than i would have thought. look, i exploited a rigged system, and i was inside it, therefore, i can fix it. that argument is more intuitive to people than i thought. >> he said that the whole time. the "times" didn't change the narrative of what many people already believed. >> right. this is already baked in. i think both of the points here, already baked into your perceptions of who donald trump is. the question in my mind isn't, is this the bombshell report,

as we go forward? as we've seen in the history, certainly of this week, but in the history of this campaign, it's donald trump's reaction to difficult stories or difficult situations that gets him in trouble. the story in and of itself, he can pivot off of this and make it about the rigged system and make it about he's the only one who can change the system. or is he going to get caught up in this and spin his wheels and go off topic? >> i think that is the thing. this whole week has been drip, drip, drip. he could have actually avoided had he just showed it. no one is surprised, the fact he hasn't paid it. i think there is hypocrisy in the fact he talks about we don't have good education, we have deteriorating infrastructure. he keeps talking about undocumented immigrants. they pay $12 billion of taxes every year. they have skin in the game. he is not contributing to a system he says he's going to go in and fix. >> what about -- okay, if this

you sit there and say, we missed the machado story? it seemed to drive him crazier in ways than taxes. >> just to be clear, i think his failure to release the returns and whether he paid tax or not is a big problem, i just don't think it is a new big problem. it's an old problem. the clinton campaign decided months ago. donald trump is a target-rich environment. what are we going after? they decided on one thing. he is not fit to be president. doesn't have the right temperament. he d't nice to people. the machado story allowed them to go right to their message. this story does to some extent, because as amy suggested, he's tweeting. not about change in washington or how hillary clinton is a part of the problem, but he's tweeting about his taxes. it goes to the fact he's easily baited. >> if they go the monica route -- >> i don't understand. >> i don't understand it. >> terrible. >> does anyone understand this?

these women. just given bill's vulnerabilities, it was part of his political operation, to discredit and basically smear these women, when they got in the way. a lot were telling the truth. but prosecuting that in a way that doesn't make -- make it seem as though you're blaming hillary for bill's infidelities is going to be really difficult. it opens up a can of worms for trump and every surrogate who may have had is open up his base. he needs republican women in his camp. going after a woman that basically said, my marriage is important. my family is important. i mean, that's really hard for him -- >> the people at the top of the campaign. dave bochy has been talking about clinton's personal life for a quarter century. it is no surprise they say, what inspires us to say clinton shouldn't be back in the white house? no surprise they'd be tempted to turn to this.

argument, that they've been around? >> the number one concern, which goes to what mark said, you talk to the clinton campaign and others around them, the number one concern that voters have about donald trump is his ta temperament and judgment. if he is going to get the campaign back on the rails, it is on judgment and temperament, not this. >> i'll leave it there for a minute. when we come back, we've just heard a bunch of elite opinion right here. we're going to talk about the fact elite opinion around the country is lining up behind hillary clinton. this year, it doesn't seem to from stage righ this man creates software, used by this bank, to protect this customer, who lives here and flies to hong kong, to visit this company that makes smart phones, used by this vice president, this little kid, oops, and this obstetrician, who works across the street from this man, who creates software. they all have insurance crafted personally for them.

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welcome back. elite opinion in the united states is lining up against donald trump in ways we've never consider this, neither president george h.w. bush or president george w. bush or any member of the bush family is openly backing trump. no ce o of a fortunate 500 company is endorsing trump. some newspapers are endorsing a democrat for the first time in 100 years. even some like the "weekly

yet, republican voters right now are ignoring establishment opinion. they're sticking with trump. we're witnessing a withering away of the power of the elites. joining me are two people who bucked the establishment themselves. the left, mifilm maker michael moore. then we'll talk to glenn beck. michael, welcome to the show, sir. >> thank you. >> let me start with something you wrote a few months ago. you believe donald trump is going to win the election. youe convention. you wrote this. from green bay to pittsburgh is the middle of england. broken and depressed, struggling. the smokestacks across the country side with the carcass of what we used to call the middle class. working and non-working people lied to by the stritrickle down reagan. after the debate, you thought trump was successful in what he needed to do.

let's make that clear. i've been trying to say for months here, i live in michigan. across the midwest, across the rust belt, i understand why a lot of people are angry. they see donald trump as their human molotov cocktail. that they get to go into the voting booth on november 8th and throw him into a political system that has made their lives missab miserab se so i think at the convention, i was worried democrats, the clinton campaign were all doing an end zone dance when they were only on the 50 yard line. and the celebrating after the debate, everybody needs to have their game face on here and realize that trump can win. he can pull this off. and everybody has to be at full force here. otherwise, it has a chance of happening.

thought a b-actor whose co-star was a chimpanzee would ever be president of the united states, or george w. bush, who was just completely not there himself, that he could ever get elected. well, i take this seriously now. i don't just -- trump is not just comedy to me. i think that people see that he is maybe their messenger. even though they don't necessarily like him or agree with him so much, i think that they -- >> do you -- up the system. >> do you think every time a newspaper editorial comes out and denounces trump, and every time a former cabinet secretary denounces trump, do you think it backfires? do you think it oddly reinforces trump's message? >> i think a lot of people who have seen their livelihood vaporize, no longer a part of the middle class and struggling to survive, pay no attention

they've lost credibility with a lot of people. i mean, just take what's happened from how we got into the iraq war. where was the media on that before the war? where was the "new york times," for instance? putting judith miller's stories, concocting weapons of mass destruction on the front page of their paper. where was the media while wall street was creating this crisis that was about to happen? so people don't trust the media. they don't listen to it. the media has let them down. the rich and the powerful have let them down. they used to believe in that and vote for the rich and powerful. a lot of them aren't going to do that this time. for some strange reason, they see donald trump as their means to get back at the system. >> will they ever seery clinton as somebody that can change the system and make their lives better? >> i hope so. >> but how does she do it?

do you think she carries too much establishment baggage? >> well, yes and no. i mean, look, she's also creating history here. i mean, w chance to elect the first woman president in this country. this rarely gets discussed anymore. but i think -- people say, i don't trust hillary or she's not trustworthy. what did she ever do to you? it's like, she was going to water your plants for you while you were gone for the weekend and didn't? whs >> clearly, democrats let them down. is that the issue here, and she's just another democrat? they don't trust them anymore? >> i don't think people do trust the democrats. how else could a socialist win 22 states? i mean, in my state of michigan, bernie sanders won. if hillary clinton and the democrats had a difficult time with him, that should have been the red flag to everybody, that there is a mood out there where people are upset at the

what has to happen here though, like with the brexit vote in england, is that people where i'm from have to understand that why they may not like hillary that much or she may be a bitter pill to swallow or whatever, you better take your medicine because the opposite is going to be much, much worse. >> okay. >> and i also don't think it's -- to be picking on the millenials is wrong. we were all 19. the last thing you want to do is wag your finger, finger, at these millenials. they're upset at the whole thing. they're upset at the world that's been handed to them. you know, they didn't create the climate change. they didn't start the war. now they have to fix this election? i hope they vote for hillary clinton. but the rest of us have got to get out there and do what we have to do. >> michael moore, appreciate you coming on. i know you're in the middle of doing a documentary on these very voters and what's going on.