>> welcome to 'american medicine today' presented by the bonati spine institute, the world leader in advanced spine surgery. featuring the internationally acclaimed inventor of the bonati spine procedures, alfred bonati m.d.. now here along with dr. bonati your host kimberly bermel. > kimberly bermel: hi, i'm your host kimberly bermel. and welcome to 'american medicine today' brought to you by the

where every week we inform you about encouraging breakthroughs in medicine, highlight the work of dr. alfred bonati and the bonati spine institute. we also discuss the ongoing concerns of medical professionals, politicians and experts alike have about the failures of president obama's policy and his administration. joining me is my cohost ethan youker. > ethan: thanks, kimberly. in our first segment we'll speak with clinical psychologist dr. shoshana bennett about her new book 'postpartum depression for dummies'. > kimberly: she tells new mothers, don't give up hope. your symptoms are completely treatable. > ethan: then we'll hear from chris abeyta of new mexico in our 'back to life' segment. he'll share the story of how a car accident left him with lumbar pain that he was told could only be fixed with open back surgery. stay tuned to see how he's doing after receiving the exclusive patented bonati spine procedures. > kimberly: in our final segment i'll speak with dr. bonati regarding the single-payer healthcare system that candidates like bernie sanders and hillary clinton are proposing. this type of healthcare is

canada and great britain with frightening results. > ethan: did you know that postpartum depression, also known as ppd is the most common complication of childbirth? > kimberly: this year more than 1.3 million expectant and new mothers will experience this mood lowering disorder which is triggered not only by hormonal changes but chemical changes as well in the mother's body and her brain. > ethan: postpartum depression is a major public health problem which not only adversely affects the well-being of mothers but also affects 10% of new fathers. and that number soars to 50% if their wives are experiencing ppd. here's my first question. i know you say, the statistic that was in your book is 1.3 million expectant and new mothers this year alone will experience depression from postpartum. now forgive me if i'm wrong, but every parent i've ever known they always say "it's the greatest gift i've ever been given". you know, i've never really seen the effects you just kind of hear about it. > dr. bennett: right. right.

by the way, that statistic. > ethan: wow. > dr. bennett: so this is happening wherever women are having babies. but yes, certainly when women are experiencing any other than complete elation, right, there's a tremendous amount of shame and guilt and feelings of inadequacy. and that's often why women don't come forward. so you know, let's face it, even when there's no depression or anxiety this is boot camp. you know, right. when a baby first comes home there's a lot of work. > kimberly: it's true. > dr. bennett: sure we hope there's some joy in there and that somebody isn't infected with an anxiety or a depressive disorder. but yes, it's very, very common. baby blues is normal. baby blues is mild stuff. you know, mild ups and downs and emotionality. but it should be gone by about two weeks after delivery. > kimberly: okay. what is the difference between just baby blues and full on postpartum depression? > dr. bennett: well that's one of the differences, the duration of the symptoms. the duration of the so if it's mild, the

but it really should be gone by two weeks, or at the outset three weeks following delivery. but if the severity of the symptoms, even if it happens immediately like overlapping the baby blues period, if the severity of the symptoms of anger, of low self-esteem, of inability to sleep at night when the baby sleeps, you know, some insomnia, appetite changes, if the severity of those symptoms get in the way of her daily functioning she shouldn't wait. she should get help > kimberly: well one of the other statistics i saw in here... because as ethan and i were discussing, he's like "oh this is good because it affects women." and i said "ah, but wait. it also affects the men that they're with, the fathers." > ethan: this was news to me > kimberly: and that the rest of the family and like you said in here, the community. > dr. bennett: i'm glad you brought that up. this is not a woman's issue. this is a public health issue. i mean, it affects everyone. it affects marriages. it can certainly affect the children. untreated maternal depression can definitely affect kids. the extended family, friends, groups she

everyone. > kimberly: but what i found interesting is that it says it also affects 10% of new fathers. and that number soars to 50% if the woman herself is experiencing postpartum. > dr. bennett: yes, it certainly can. so 10%... sometimes i get calls from women who are saying "i'm doing pretty well. i feel pretty much like me. i feel pretty much but i'm really worried about my husband." so yeah, 10%. but if she is depressed, if the mom's depressed then yes, it goes from 24 to 50% risk. just as you said. so if he has any kind of a history of mental illness himself, if he's been depressed in the past, certainly sleep deprivation can bring it on for either the mom or the dad. > kimberly: right. > dr. bennett: so yeah, there are varying risk factors. certainly when the husband is depressed it's not because of the shifting reproductive hormones. but there's certainly other factors involved. > kimberly: well you know, you hear from people that don't quite understand postpartum that "oh they're just doing this

they don't like the fact that the attention's turned from them carrying a baby to now the newborn." what do you think about that? that's ignorance. i understand why somebody might think that, but no, this is a very,very real illness. postpartum depression is one of six perinatal mood and anxiety disorders. this is a brain disorder. and we can certainly measure it. we can't see it on an x-ray, you know, like a broken arm. but we can definitely be screened, we can definitely diagnose it. we can definitely treat it. but the great news is we can get rid of it. but yeah, the rest is really based on people not knowing that this is a real thing. > ethan: and dr. shosh, like you mentioned briefly just now, that there's six different types of this perinatal disorders including obsessive compulsive, there's a form of ptsd. > dr. bennett: yes. > ethan: and probably the most frightening and the one that we hear about most on the news is, what? postpartum psychosis. that's where the mother

> dr. bennett: yeah. when you hear those really scary reports of mom harming or even killing their babies, almost always it's a case of the mom not being in our reality at all. she's psychotic. and that is very, very different from postpartum depression. and often, you know, it's mislabeled as a severe postpartum depression. then all the women would postpartum depression kind of go in the closet, going "well i don't want to be associated with a mom who is going to harm her kids." so that's another barrier to treatment. > kimberly: what are some of the things that we can do for those women? are there medicines, supplements, anything they can take to combat those symptoms? > dr. bennett: are you talking about postpartum depression? > kimberly: yes. > dr. bennett: or any of the perinatal...? > ethan: any of them really. > kimberly: any of them. > dr. bennett: yeah. certainly there's medication that can be very helpful. there's alternative treatments as well. i mean, i'm a big believer in nutrition. not that what we eat can

so certainly it depends on what you have, the severity of the symptoms, how long it's been going on. but definitely there's a basic plan of action for so in answer to your question, it's a big question. there's medication, alternative treatments. there's complementary treatments, so if she's on medication she can also be doing other things but i know for instance, when women are depleted, when their brain chemistry is depleted due to lack of nutrients it can make an enormous difference no matter what she's suffering perinatally. so for instance, women are told about folic acid and calcium and d3, but they're also not told about for instance omega-3 fish oil. and we have an enormous amount of data about preventing as well as treating prenatal and postpartum depression and anxiety with omega-3 fish oil. > kimberly: okay. so postpartum can be treated and those symptoms can go away. now for those that suffer

that ever go away? > dr. bennett: absolutely. every single one of these disorders is considered to be an acute disorder not chronic. so you can absolutely expect 100% recovery. > kimberly: where could they go for help if they need it? > dr. bennett: well certainly i would be very happy to be a resource certainly i would be very happy to be a resource for them. and if they don't work with me directly i have a list of, an enormous list actually, worldwide. > kimberly: if they wanted to reach out to you, how do they do so? > dr. bennett: drshosh.com. d-r-s-h-o-s-h dot com. you can reach me very, very easily. and many of us do teletherapy as well through skype or other kinds of webcam. so yeah, there's great help everywhere and nobody should be suffering in silence. you absolutely deserve to be happy. your family is rotating around you. there's no shame that should be associated with this at all. come forward, get help, and go on with your happy life.

subject of course. dr. shoshana bennett, a.k.a. dr. shosh. clinical psychologist, maternal health expert, author of 'postpartum for dummies'. we appreciate you joining us on 'american medicine today'. > dr. bennett: thank you very much. > dr. bennett: thank you > ethan: have a great day. > kimberly: take care. > dr. bennett: you too. > ethan: bye-bye. > kimberly: the bonati spine institute is located in the tampa bay area. we have performed over 50,000 procedures on patients from all over the world. > ethan: the patented bonati spine procedures lead the way in less invasive spine surgery exclusively performed at the bonati spine institute. now a recent 7 1/2 year survey reflects a patient satisfaction rate of 98.75%. > kimberly: at the bonati spine institute all of the procedures are performed here at our 11 acre facility, from your initial consultation and exam to x-rays and mris in our on-site imaging center. all surgeries are performed in one of our three surgical operating rooms and recovery is just steps away. this allows the surgeon more access to their patients and allows you to go home the same day. > ethan: each week our 'back to life' segment highlights a patient of

journey from living a life of pain to regaining their strength and getting back in motion. coming up we'll speak with chris abeyta from new mexico who lived with pain for several years. but when a recent car accident made his lumbar pain unbearable he sought out the exclusive patented bonati spine procedures pain-free life. > revolutionary in his field, dr. bonati created, perfected and patented the bonati spine procedures. using his genius bonati invented precise tools necessary to minimize surgery, scarring, anesthesia and recovery. so successful are the bonati spine procedures they consistently reflect over 94% patient satisfaction. 45,000 successful procedures have been performed exclusively at our location. nearly half our patients suffer from failed back and neck surgeries at other facilities. bonati succeeds where others fail. > kimberly: we consistently see amazing recoveries here at the bonati spine institute. most patients leave pain-free, some for the first time in over 30 years, no longer relying

after receiving the exclusive patented bonati spine procedures today's patient is now living pain-free. > chris: my name is chris.. i'm an electrical engineer from new mexico. four years ago i had a dilemma, i had two lumbar herniated discs and my options were very limited with only having the option of open back surgery. > other doctors tell them that they need screws and plates and they can't help him and there's nothing more you can do and just place them into pain and pain management gets them on all kinds of drugs and then they can't get off the drugs and then they're hooked on drugs. but here we don't even use drugs. but here we don't even they get a pain medicine before the surgery and then once they come out of the surgery they're they hug you, they kiss you, they say "we should've come here long time ago." > chris: after extensive research i chose the bonati spine institute. it was one of the best decisions of my life. dr. bonati was able to repair and to this day

no restrictions and no pain. > i work at the bonati spine institute because i care about patients and their outcomes. i see patients prior to surgery with pain. i see patients after surgery pain-free. that's the reward of working for the bonati spine institute. > we just take them in like family, you know. we're all here for one thing, and that's to get you better and do everything we can possible to help that happen as fast as possible. it really makes you feel good every day knowing that you've helped somebody out today, you know, and get their way of life back. it's what we're all here for. > chris: four months ago i was involved in a rear end auto accident with pain between my shoulder blades radiating to my chest and pain through my neck when i looked up. after three months of rehab with no relief i called the bonati spine institute again. this again was a great decision.

cervical procedure. and once again i am > dr. robert uteg: people don't come here to be patted on the head or to be given medicine. people come here because they have pain which is truly affecting the quality of their life. being able to have a positive impact on that pain is very rewarding. > chris: i want to say a very special thanks to dr. bonati and all of the staff at the bonati spine institute. > dr. bonati: it's extremely important to be able to love what you do. and the beauty of what i do is that i constantly have a very rewarding result. have a very rewarding result. these patients come in a bad situation and we are able to get them back and give them their lives back again. back again.

half since my surgery. and of course now i feel like a 20-year-old again. > it worked for me. you need at least a consult. get an mri. get a consult. > i got up and instantly i didn't have any pain. and i was like "wow, this is a miracle." > this surgery was like going into a band-aid shop. you know, you go in and you have a little one inch incision. you walk out, you talk to your doctor, "how you feeling, gary?" "i'm great, doc. i feel a lot better than what i did. my headache's gone." > it's unbelievable. everybody walked in there bent over. when they walked out they're straight up. that's why they got them mirrors in there. > i took a mountain bike canyon the other day. it's not a big deal, but i hadn't been mountain biking in two years, i like to snowboard. i think this winter i'll go off and do a little bit of light snowboarding. > bonati was the one that helped me completely. > i was back to work within a week. i went down and i had the surgery and it helped me.

you do that. you do that. > revolutionary in his field, dr. bonati created, perfected and patented the bonati spine procedures. using his genius bonati invented precise tools necessary to minimize surgery, scarring, anesthesia and recovery. so successful are the bonati spine procedures they consistently reflect over 94% patient satisfaction. 45,000 successful procedures have been performed exclusively at our location. nearly half our patients suffer from failed back and neck surgeries at other facilities. bonati succeeds where others fail. > kimberly: single-payer healthcare systems have one thing in common - a central authority that controls both supply of dollars and providers as well as demands in goods and services. in canada the average patient must wait between 10 months from referral from a general practitioner to treatment from an orthopedic surgeon. nearly 1 and 35 canadians or approximately 1 million

for treatment. with the 2016 debates you hear a lot about single-payer healthcare, specifically by bernie sanders but also behind closed doors hillary clinton is also pushing for that. what are your thoughts? > dr. bonati: well a single-payer is an old idea. it's an idea that happens in all the socialistic societies. like everything that the socialistic mind put together is "i'm going to offer you things that i cannot deliver." > kimberly: okay. > dr. bonati: "but i'm going to offer you. so i'm going to cheat for a while. you're going to elect me and i'm going to rip off the system." > kimberly: right. > dr. bonati: "and get the benefits for me. meanwhile you are going to pay for all the mistakes that i'm going to create." > kimberly: okay. > dr. bonati: that is socialistic behavior. > kimberly: what happens when you run out of

to play with? > dr. bonati: exactly. well that is what margaret thatcher said. she said the problem with the socialistic mind is once you offer these things, to pay, once you run out of money then what? run out of money then well what is exactly what happened with greece. the people became accustomed to receiving benefits that they don't deserve. > kimberly: sure. > dr. bonati: they don't work for. and they become entitled to. and the next thing that happens is when you don't give them... > kimberly: there's an uprising. > dr. bonati: not only they hurt, they destroy things. > dr. bonati: they go in the streets, they burn and they crash things and they agitate everything. but the problem is, in certain countries like for example europe when what happened with greece they have some resources like

up the system to offer them some solutions. but at the same time they demand some type of responsibilities. > kimberly: okay. > dr. bonati: well the healthcare in the united states is a blessing in the world. and you need to be very dumb, very dumb to not learn from what happened with obamacare. obamacare was initially a proposal in congress to do single-payer healthcare. but the senators and the house of representatives were totally against in both groups. > kimberly: sure. > dr. bonati: and then obama just ran back a little bit the system, thinking that the next generation is going to get the healthcare. the problem is, i would like to ask the people who

single-payer healthcare, if you really look at the people who are right now backing up bernie sanders or hillary clinton, they're young people. > kimberly: okay. > dr. bonati: why? because the young people are not prepared really to understand what is going topen with them in the next 10 years. > kimberly: right. well they're being spoonfed from college, colleges and universities by the liberals and they're only hearing that agenda. > dr. bonati: absolutely. but at the same time is they don't really know anything. the other day i saw the people on the street in some of the abc or cbs or fox or some of these television, they were asking questions on, what is the difference between

> kimberly: correct. > dr. bonati: it's amazing to see that these people who are voting for a socialistic behavior they have no idea what socialism is. > kimberly: right. > dr. bonati: and the worst part of it is the lies of "i'm going to give you free education." that's not going to happen. that's not going > kimberly: right. > dr. bonati: "i'm going to give you free healthcare." that's not going to happen. that's not going to > kimberly: sure. to give you free whatever." it's not going to happen. because nothing works without money. > kimberly: correct. > dr. bonati: and the money needs to come from someplace. > kimberly: sure. > dr. bonati: unless the government is going to get a little machine that is going to make millions of dollars every single day to give to these people, they need to come from somebody. they need to come from and that somebody is the taxpayers. > kimberly: right. > dr. bonati: then once we start to see the results of this economy that

unmanageable they will start to see more and more lies. for example, one of the lies that right now we have in the government is that we have 5% unemployment. yeah, but the 5% unemployment is an enormous lie. because we are probably 16 to 18% unemployment in the country. > kimberly: correct. because it doesn't take into account people that are on welfare and people that fell off the unemployment system. > dr. bonati: exactly. > kimberly: right. > dr. bonati: and this is something that needs to be clarified. > kimberly: sure. > dr. bonati: and it needs to be avoided in this situation for the politicians to look good. > kimberly: correct. > dr. bonati: okay. and that's one of the things that's creating a lot of misunderstanding. > kimberly: part of this single taxpayer system; not taxpayer, rather but healthcare system, one of the problems with this becomes death panels. so it's nice to say that you'll get your freebie

but then when it comes down to it you really don't. because there's somebody on the other side that gets to approve you or deny your medical care. correct? > dr. bonati: well it's happening today. it's happening today. we don't have death panels although obama in the obamacare.. > kimberly: we see it with the veterans healthcare. > dr. bonati: yeah. we're already seeing something that's very, very clear. something that's very, for example, when you go to a doctor now the insurance companies say "we are going to approve your surgery or your treatment." > kimberly: sure. > dr. bonati: and then they said "we're going to approve that. we're just going to take a week before we approve that." well right now if you go to canada or you go to england, if you need knee surgery you need to wait around forty weeks. > kimberly: yes. > dr. bonati: okay. and if you need back surgery you need to wait around 51 or 52 weeks. i would like to see

problem in the united states and you tell them that they need to wait 52 weeks. > kimberly: correct. > dr. bonati: they will go nuts. > kimberly: right. because during that time not only is the person in pain and its debilitating pain, but then problems compound. so it's going to be far worse when you're finally able to get in. > dr. bonati: because of our society if you go to an employer and you tell them that your employee is going to be 52 weeks out, that's a year out, before they have any treatment. and when they have a treatment, god knows how long are going to be out. > kimberly: right. > dr. bonati: well that employee is going to be fired. so we're going to add to the wound more pain. > kimberly: yes. > dr. bonati: because now the person's not going to be now without being treated for many months or weeks. treated for many months > kimberly: right. > dr. bonati: but at the now with an economy that he cannot support his family. or needs to be with this type of an entitlement of

behavior that "we're going to take care of you". but sooner or later the money's no longer going to be there > kimberly: correct. > dr. bonati: and when the money's not there everybody who's accustomed to this type of a behavior, they are going to be sick. number one, is these guys that they are right now young people, they are backing up sanders and the whole thing, they don't know the problem when they get 60 or 50 years old and they have been called to... you cannot have dialysis because you are a critically ill person, so you need to die. > kimberly: hip surgery. knee surgery. heart surgery. > dr. bonati: yeah. all these things are going to be denied or they're going to be put on standby in a certain way that they hope you die first before you are being treated. > kimberly: right. then there's this big discussion, and i've actually seen it with some people i'm friends with on

difference between socialism and democratic socialism. down to it, they're identical. > dr. bonati: well the fact that you put the name 'democratic' on the front, well it's democratic. because the problem is they're offering you some crappy behavior for solutions that they don't work. > kimberly: sure. > dr. bonati: they never work. any socialistic society ever, ever had good healthcare. they all were rationed things. they always are in deficit. > kimberly: yes. > dr. bonati: they always are taxing the society and then at the very end you have a miserable life. > kimberly: correct. > dr. bonati: and you > kimberly: thank you for watching 'american medicine today'. remember you do not have to live with chronic back and neck pain. there is an option. stop suffering and seek a consultation to see if the world-renowned bonati spine procedures

> ethan: all you have to do is send us your mri. then our medical staff will evaluate it and let you know if the bonati spine procedures can help you. > kimberly: if you have any comments or questions contact us at the number below. you can also tweet @drbonati using #americanmedicinetoday or #amt. #americanmedicinetoday or #amt. we would like to hear from you. > thank you for watching 'american medicine today' presented by the bonati spine institute. please look in your local listings for our next regularly scheduled program. to hear more from dr. alfred bonati and 'american medicine today' tune in to newsradio 970 wfla.

> revolutionary in his field, dr. bonati created, perfected and patented the bonati spine procedures. using his genius bonati invented precise tools necessary to minimize surgery, scarring, anesthesia and recovery. so successful are the bonati spine procedures they consistently reflect over 94% patient satisfaction. 45,000 successful procedures have been performed exclusively at our location. nearly half our patients suffer from failed back and neck surgeries at other facilities. bonati succeeds where others fail.

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