good morning. breaking overnight, police identify a husband and wife as the two shooters who opened fire at a holiday work party in san bernardino, california, killing at least 14 people, wounding 17 others. the suspect then killed in a gun battle with police. [ gunshots ] investigators not ruling out terrorism. >> based upon what we have seen and based upon how they were equipped, there had to have been some planning that went into this. >> new video of the moment first responders led re survivors to safety. >> i'll take a bullet before you do.

mass shooting today, thursday, december 3rd, 2015. >> announcer: from nbc news, this is a special edition of "today," shooting in san bernardino, with matt lauer, live from san bernardino, california, and savannah guthrie, live from studio 1a in rockefeller plaza. good morning, everybody. welcome to a special split edition of "today." it's thursday morning. i'm savannah guthrie here in the studio in new york. bernardino from where this shooting occurred. matt, good morning to you. community in shock. >> i mean, you can't imagine anybody actually fell asleep last night here in san bernardino, but if they did, they're waking up, yes, in shock. savannah, i was just watching the open of the show, and i got a glimpse of the rockefeller christmas tree lit this morning.

joyous and festive time of the year. you and i were supposed to be part of the tree lighting ceremony last night. instead, we're waking up this morning and covering another mass shooting in this country. i don't often start coverage of an event like this by talking about how other people covered it, but a commentator in the bbc said, another day in the united states. another day of panic and fear in the city of san bernardino. these are the latest overnight developments. police confirmed there were two shooters involved. some thought there were three involved throughout the day. a married couple, 28-year-old malik. they had a daughter, who they before going on the rampage. >> the san bernardino chief says they're not ruling out

it's clear this assault did take some planning. >> that's right. syed farook was a county employee, attending a holiday party down the road behind me here. party. anger. then a short time later, he returned with his wife. they were heavily armed, and they were wearing military-style or swat-style clothing. fire. >> reporter: dressed in black and armed with assault rifles and handguns, the suspects attacked a holiday event for san bernardino county health workers. authorities identified the suspects as saeed rizwan farook and tashfeen malik. the couple were married and had a 6 month old daughter. both were later lived in a shootout with police. employee.

specialist in the public health department. has been employed there for five years. >> reporter: police say farook left the event after some sort of disagreement, before coming back with malik. both armed with assault rifles and handguns. explosive devices were also used in the attack. >> i think based upon what we have seen and based upon how they were equipped, there had to have been some degree of planning that went into this. we have not ruled out terrorism. >> we have at least 20 victims. >> reporter: it started shortly after 11:00 wednesday morning at the inland regional center in san bernardino, some 60 miles east of los angeles. >> male in black clothing. he's still firing rounds. >> reporter: chaos quickly followed. the triage scene outside like the aftermath of a battle. with some of the wounded being loaded into pickup trucks before being raced to local hospitals. with the gunmen at large, lines of workers were else with hands in the air. scene waited anxiously outside

>> what are you going to do when you see your wife? >> hug her. >> reporter: several tense hours later, police located the suspects as they tried to flee in a black suv. >> they are shooting out of us. they are shooting at us, from the suv, eastbound on richardson. >> pd has shot fired. they're being shot at by unknown suspects, referencing the add. all units copy. >> suspect down, in the westbound lane. >> reporter: both suspects were killed at the scene, both heavily armed. an officer was wounded in the shootout but is expected to be okay. syed farook was a native born citizen who attended local schools. overnight, his brother-in-law apologized to the victims, but gave no indication of a motive. >> on behalf of my family for the victims, it's unbelievable what happened. i am very sad, luke deep

and shocked. >> reporter: as investigators comb crime scenes for lead, some families reunited with loved ones one ones. this woman's family member survived being hit in the back. >> everybody hit the floor. she said it lasted 30, 40 seconds. paused for a moment and started again. then they were gone. didn't say anything. >> you know, this city is clearly reeling. i'm looking across, the mayor of the city is off our cam are. he's going to join me in a second. the crime scenes are still active. not only the one just behind me down the road, the inland regional center, but also the street where the suv was eventually stopped. miguel almaguer joins us with dramatic images inside the ordeal, as survivors speak out. good morning to you. >> it started like a normal day at work.

holiday party when the gunshots range out. rang out. they hid in closets and ran for their lives. no one was sure they'd make it out of the building alive. >> reporter: this was the terror, the fear inside. the panic, huddled in a hallway. >> try to relax, everyone. >> reporter: police ordering everyone, keep their hands up and heads down. >> i'll take a bullet before you do. that's for sure. >> reporter: family waiting anxiously for word. tensions building with the shooters still inside. >> any other units available have them respond. closed unit. >> reporter: it took police four terrifying minutes to arrive. >> we have victims, multiple victims. >> reporter: as officers poured into the building, word came out. many were dead and more were wounded. >> we have several down in the conference room, several down. >> it's just a moment that makes you not want to take life for granted. it's just -- it was horrific. >> reporter: she was in the building, heard the gunfire,

>> people in a panic, frantic, all over the place, screaming and yelling. just like a bloody warpath. it was crazy. >> reporter: as the walking wounded staggered from the building, shelby simpson was still hiding inside. >> i need to see you're alive, you're okay, that nothing is wrong with you. take a photo and text it to me. she did, thank god. >> reporter: 14 were dead, at least 17 wounded. the lucky escaped the gunfire, but not the memory of what happened inside. >> even with the suspects dead, they'll have to relive this whole thing, matt. they'll have to talk to investigators in detail about what they saw. of course, many of them knew the gunmen. >> miguel, thank you very much. i want to turn to nbc's justice correspondent pete williams. he's been talking to law enforcement sources throughout the night. what are you hearing? >> they say they still don't know what led syed farook and

brutal and deadly attack, matt. authorities say it was well planned. not only were the two heavily armed, they had prepared and brought some homemade bombs. at least three devices have been found, though none went out in the attack. federal officials say a check of border protection records showed farook recently traveled to saudi arabia. they believe it was a religious pilgrimage that religious muslims are to make at least once in their lives. authorities will look through the couple's computers, looking for clues. they'll examine farook's employment records, talk to his co-workers, to see if they can shed any light. authorities say some people who knew farook told them his months ago. this morning, investigators cannot say what this attack was. was it a workplace dispute that spun so strangely out of control? was it jihadist inspired

matt? >> but, pete, i've known you for years and years. you're one of the most careful journalists i've ever met. you have to think that, at this moment, it's looking less and less like any kind of simple workplace dispute, and more and more like the nightmare we've all been fearing. someone blending into our attack. >> it certainly does. that is why, i think, there is so much puzzled, trying to find an explanation. they can't interview the people involved, both are dead, the man and the woman. they have to see if there is any other indication. did they leave a message on social media, something in their computers? no one they've talked to yet can give an explanation. >> pete williams, thank you very much. with us now is carrie davis, the mayor of san bernardino. thank you for joining us.

dolences to you. i'm sure the police department and your office were swamped overnight, with calls from people who were scared, shut in homes and businesses, wanting to know if it's safe to come out. as the city prepares to rise this morning, is it safe? >> first priority has been and will continue to be public safety safety. our police department responded as efficientive ly as they could. it was a massive outpouring of concern for our community. the city, overnight, has been on high alert. we will continue until we hear from the police department, following their lead. >> all throughout the day, we heard there were possibly three shooters actively involved in the massacre inside the inland regional center. are you confident now, after talking with police and atf and fbi, that everyone who was actively involved in that shooting has been killed? >> matt, as you know, this is an active investigation. we're not going to compromise

the police department is controlling. deferring all the information to our police department. >> i was just talking to pete williams in washington, our justice correspondent. are you waking up today to the fear that there may have been a cell, albeit a small cell, living in plain sight in your community? >> again, matt, this is an active investigation. we're leaving that up to the law enforcement, to make sure they conduct it. when we find out more information from them, they will be releasing that information. >> i know you had a chance yesterday to stop and talk to some of the people who were inside that regional center at the time this happened. also talked to family members of people that were inside. what kinds of stories were you hearing? >> our community is very saddened by this event. the crime that took place has certainly impacted san bernardino. you could see the emotions that they were dealing with. the shock. desperation they must have felt

and panic. again, our police departments did the best they could, surrounding neighboring agencies came to the aid of san bernardino, fbi was here, as you know. it was a massive effort to make sure that they secured that facility as quickly and as well as they could. >> as the mayor of a city of a couple hundred thousands people, i'm sure you've watched the coverage of other mass shootings across the country. did you watch the coverage of those events with the thought in the back of your mind that it could happen just down the street? >> well, i think in the world today, with the heightened level of violence that's taking place, i don't think any community is immune immune. certainly, we don't anticipate that kind of thing happening here. it was a shock and, certainly, a shock to hear the information when i was notified. >> i mentioned a colleague of ours on the bbc in reporting this story said, just another

another day of guns, chaos and panic. this time in the city of san bernardino. >> it's unfortunate we have to deal with these things. we always need to be cautious. we certainly need to stay on a high level of alert. at the same time, we don't want to be paralyzed by the incidents. we need to move on. we also need to recognize and be aware that those victims will support. we will do all we can to provide the support. >> as you carefully point out, ongoing investigation, active crime scenes. mr. mayor, i appreciate you joining me this morning. >> you're welcome. thank you. >> our thoughts with you and your people here. let's go back to savannah now. >> let's turn to sean henry, executive director of the fbi and now the chief security officer for crowd strike. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> this is a perplexing case. some aspects you might this is, maybe this is a disgruntled worker.

he works, got mad and left. there were other circumstances that strikes you as terrorism. answers. we know it was a workplace violence issue, certainly, but what caused that to happen? when you start to look at and assess, is this terrorism or not, you look at, what were the tactics? they used long guns. they had bullet proof vests. they had improvised explosive devices. these are telltale signs. for me, the sign is traveling to saudi arabia. if it's terrorist related and there will be a lot of investigation done through saudi intelligence intelligence, trying to determine what happened there when he traveled, when he met his wife there, and what happens with her family. >> that jumps out. so does the fact we have two shooters, one male and one female. >> that's right. that's also -- in many of the shootings that we've seen historically, where we've had

theaters and schools, typically, it's one person involved. when you have two people here in a coordinated effort, again, the type of weapons they're using, this was well-planned in advance. this didn't just happen walking? >> and they leave a baby with his mother, the 6 month old baby. then, apparently, had no plan for escape. i mean, on the one hand, they get away, but on the other hand, they're still in the area hours later. what do you make of that? >> that's right. they had an opportunity to get away. in the past in some of the situations we've seen internationally, terrorists have police. to continue until they've -- suicide vests. in this case, law enforcement, fbi, joint terrorism task force, local police will be scouring through search warrants at the location through vehicles and the exploitation of media. there will be some trail. urls, web browsing history, e-mail communication, social media, et cetera.

investigation here to try to piece this together. >> lot of work to be done. sean henry, thank you very much. matt, back to you. >> savannah, thank you. this man's wife was wounded in the shooting. after a long night at the hospital, he is with us now. good morning. how is your wife doing? >> remarkably well. >> she was shot three times, is that correct? >> yes. >> once in one arm. >> this arm, went through the arm and out. and one here, and one passed the inside. >> i know there was talk for a few hours yesterday that she might need surgery. is that now a possibility we won't need that? that. only the bullet fragments are inside her body. >> what did she tell you? you got to the hospital. you were out of town, flew back hospital. when you got there, what did she describe? >> she was -- we became very

she survived with this kind of situation. my kids, they reunited with her. still, we have a small baby. she hasn't reunited with her yet. in the morning, i'm going to bring her to the hospital. >> did denise tell you what she saw, what she witnessed inside the center? >> she couldn't see who was the shooter because everybody ducked down. bullets were flying all over the place. she was -- she crawled into the bathroom and realized her hands were bleeding. >> is it true that some of your family members were actually watching the coverage of this tragedy on television and saw your wife being treated in the triage? >> yes. actually, my son told me that his friend told him that they saw her on television inside the triage. treating. >> you've heard what we've heard about the two suspects who are now dead after carrying out this attack.

do you have a gut feeling? >> i think any killing of any terrorism. we need to control our gun law in our country. >> whether this was political or idealogical, you'd label it active terrorism? >> any killing of human beings should be active terrorism. >> i appreciate you joining us. my best to your wife. our thoughts are with her. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. let's go back now to savannah in new york. >> matt, we'll check in with you in a bit. we'll take a turn and get a check of the weather. it's getting warm here. >> it is. right now, we do have winter weather to talk about. icy mix making its way through the northeast. we're also looking at northern new england with decent snow through there. also lake-effect snow. lots of sunshine making its way through the gulf coast. heavy rain in florida could be significant. series of storms coming into the pacific northwest, bringing a ton of rain. the good news is mountain snow to the sierra.

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look at the weekend. >> that's your latest weather. savannah? >> al, thank you so much. a ruling out of south africa this morning. to prison. an appeals court convicted the murder. that decision overturns the lower court's conviction on a lesser charge of culpable homicide in the shooting death of his girlfriend. that'll be sent back to a high court for sentencing. he could face at least 15 years in prison. coming up, we'll get reaction to the decision from reeva steenkamp's mother when she joins us. plus, more from matt on this rampage in san bernardino. a married couple identify ied as the shooters. the response from washington and elsewhere to yet another mass shooting in this country. first, on a thursday

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>> jeremy: warmest part of the day is right now. boston 52. bedford 45. you'll have winds developing through the morning. it becomes a windy day. that wind drags in cooler air by this afternoon with some peeks of sunshine this afternoon. temperatures this afternoon mid-40s, upper 30s by this evening. >> christa: all right. now to your headlines today. an anonymous gun threat to cambridge middle schools has officials on high alert today. cambridge police say schools will be open, but there will be a heavy police presence at all schools in cambridge. police believe the threats today are from the same person who made threats against the school tuesday. and police are searching for an armed robber up in salem, new hampshire. they say this surveillance video shows the man holding a gun during the robbery at a gas station on south broadway last night. he stole about $250 in cash and then ran away. now back to the "today show" with more coverage of the mass shooting in california right

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7:30 now on a thursday morning, third day of december, 2015. as you would imagine, it is an extremely somber morning here in southern california. the city of san bernardino, 14 people killed, 17 others wounded in a mass shooting that took place at a holiday party in a building just behind me. i'm matt lauer in san bernardino this morning. savannah is back in new york in studio 1a. good morning again to you. >> good morning, matt. there was initial confusion, but

it was a married couple, 28-year-old saeed rizwan farook and tashfeen malik. syed was at the holiday party, left and came armed. was this workplace violence or terrorism? >> left with his coat still hanging over his chair. a guy sitting at the table with him saw him leave. he got up to go to the bathroom and a couple minutes later, felt bullets flying through the walls of the bathroom. it didn't take long for him to return with his wife. at least 14 people killed. this is the deadliest mass shooting in the united states since sandy hook three years ago. unfortunately, it is far from the only incident like those we've had to cover in recent months. church massacre.

opens fire at a charleston church. the rampage that ended with many dead. >> killing two, wounding nine others. >> in memory and grief. the shocking murders of two colleagues during a live broadcast. >> face of a killer, the gunman who killed nine people at an oregon college. >> in colorado, a 57-year-old man behind bars after a deadly shootout at a planned parenthood clinic. >> it's just sickening how often we've had to start a show like this. nbc's tom costello is taking a closer look at the staggering numbers. tom, sadly, this has become hauntingly familiar. >> matt, you know, yesterday was the second mass shooting of the day. there was one yesterday morning in georgia. four people shot, three wounded and one dead. consider this, what we saw in san bernardino is the sixth mass shooting in the u.s. in a week, including the man who killed three week and wounded nine others at a colorado springs

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160 of them. now, san bernardino is burned into our minds, along with places like virginia tech, columbine columbine, new town, the washington navy yard. the list is so long, it goes on and on and on. i could be reading names and locations probably for at least matt? >> tom costello on this story from washington for us. tom, thank you very much. let's send it from san savannah. >> matt, thank you. striking when we see it all together like that. now monitoring our weather. how is it looking? >> we're looking at wet weather down in florida. it's going to be very interesting to see what happens. they are basically going to see a ton of rain. you can see it all now starting to stream up from the south. what's going to happen, we've got this weak front that's going south. there's this rich supply of moisture out of the tropics. as we get into friday, saturday,

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pistorius guilty of murder. that overturns his original conviction on a lesser charge in the shooting death of reeva steenkamp. we'll talk to her mother in a moment. jeff rossen, good morning. >> oscar pistorius is inside his uncle's mansion behind me, as he has been for months. he's here on house arrest. it's a big headline here. oscar pistorius, now a convicted murderer. the appeals court this morning blasting the original judge, saying pistorius should have been convicted of murder all along. what this means, the former olympian will be going back to prison for a long, long time. >> reporter: overnight, the appeals court judge delivering the bomb shell ruling. oscar pistorius had been convicted of manslaughter, not murder, for shooting and killing his model girlfriend reeva steenkamp in his bathroom.

>> the accused conviction has been replaced with the following. guilty of murder. it's referred back to the trial court to consider an appropriate sentence. >> reporter: the appeals court saying the original judge made fundamental errors, ignored evidence. her ruling, confusing. >> i have no doubt that in firing the fatal shots, the accused must hav foreseen and did foresee that whoever was behind the toilet door might die. >> reporter: the appeals judge declaring it was oscar's only version of events that brought him down. nbc news was granted access to pistorius' house, the crime scene, during the trial. >> he was standing in this spot in the bedroom when he heard a noise from down the hallway. around the corner is the master bathroom. thought there was an intruder. prosecutors say if it's true, why wouldn't he walk two reeva up and escape?

pistorius said he came to this side of the bed, took the gun out and drew his weapon, holding it in his right hand. he was walking on his thumbs, no prosthetic legs at this point. he was using his arm to walk down the hallway of cabinets to the bathroom. that's when pistorius said he heard another noise. thought the door was opening, the intruder was coming at him, so he fired four shots. >> the appeal court judge slammed oscar pistorius, saying they couldn't believe a word he witness. murder. how long has he got in prison? >> could be sentenced to 15 years in prison. >> the dis pistorius family releasing a statement, saying their legal team will look at the ruling and decide where to go from here. they could appeal, guys, to the constitutional courts, south africa's version of the u.s. supreme court. unclear if that court would even

all eyes now are on this house behind me. do police re-arrest him? does he have to surrender? this is us pres nprecedented here. his sentencing will likely happen in a month or two. pistorius himself could speak there, making a personal plea for a light sentence. >> jeff rossen, thank you very much. reeva steenkamp's mother is with us exclusively. mrs. steenkamp, good morning to you. >> good morning. good morning. >> you just received this news, that the conviction has now been upgraded to murder. that oscar pistorius is, in all likelihood, headed back to what was your reaction when you heard that news? >> well, the anticipation was tremendous this morning because we didn't really know what was going to happen. i want respect for my daughter's life, and that's what i got today. the conviction of murder. this is the result now of

i feel so proud now that she's got some respect. she hasn't lost her life for nothing. she'll be remembered. >> it looks like oscar pistorius will be headed back to jail. as i understand south african law, the typical minimum sentence is 15 years in prison. is that what he deserves, in your mind? >> it doesn't really matter the amount of time. it's got nothing to do with me. wouldn't make any difference to my life. reeva won't come back. she's gone now. i don't want revenge against him. but he can pay for his crime. that's all. that's all it amounts to. doesn't matter what the time is, how long it is. it's got nothing to do with the justice. >> i read that as part of his parole, he was required to reach out to you and your husband and offer a meeting, if you desired it. did that meeting ever happen?

would you want to meet with him? >> i don't really think it's necessary now, but we don't know. he asked for the meeting. that meeting hasn't taken place yet. i can't really say whether it will happen or not. >> what would you want to say to him, if anything, or hear from him? >> i think all i would say is, to explain to him what he's taken away from her life, her career, her wedding, her child. that's what he's taken away. he's taken away all the joy in my husband and i's life. he's taken away from us, what he's taken away from her. that's all i would want to say. >> june steenkamp, thank you so much for being here on this momentum day.

you some measure of peace. our best wishes to you. thank you. >> thank you. thank you so much. coming up, the unfolding investigation into the shooting cam rage rampage at an office holiday party in california. matt talks to a man who witnessed the shootout that ended the frantic search for you get used to sweaty odors in your car you think it smells fine, but your passengers smell this... eliminate odors you've gone noseblind to for up to 30 days with the febreze car vent clip

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and not just the powerful few. >> this is 7news now. >> jadiann: good morning, everyone. it's 7:57. a live look outside. let's get over to jeremy and talk about the forecast for the day. >> jeremy: right now boston at 49. plymouth 51. bedford 45. developing wind through the day. we'll keep those temperatures from moving much. in fact, if anything they'll slide downhill during the afternoon hours. mid-40s early this afternoon. upper 30s by this evening. danielle with traffic. >> danielle: good morning. a bit of a mess out there. let's go out the sky7 over an accident on the expressway. this is southbound at savin hill. you can see the left lane is blocked. we have some back-up. there let's go to the maps. we also have an accident at 93

this is causing a lot of back-up on the zakim bridge. and then 93 up toward 495, another accident. almost a two-hour drive from 495 into boston on route 93. so a bit of a mess out there. jadiann? >> jadiann: thank you, danielle. we'll be back in 25 minutes with another update, everyone.

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it's 8:00 on "today." coming up, the shooting rampage in california. >> male in black clothing, he's still firing rounds. >> the suspect, a young married couple, unleashing gunfire at an office holiday party, killing at least 14 people and wounding 17 others. >> it's just a moment that makes you not want to take life for granted. it was horrific. >> that couple later killed in a dramatic shootout with police. [ gunshots ] a stunned community searching for answers. >> is this terrorism? i am still not willing to say

>> as the nation comes to grips with another mass shooting, matt is live in san bernardino with the latest. today, thursday, december 3rd, 2015. good morning again, everybody. welcome back to this special split edition of "today." matt is in california this morning. he has the latest developments on this shooting. matt, i guess so many of us are waking up and saying, here we go again. >> you know, and you just heard that that law enforcement official said, is this terrorism? i'm not willing to say that yet. we talked to the husband of one of the shooting victims, a woman shot three times but survived. he says, i don't care whether it's ideology or politics, you walk into a room and take that many lives with assault weapons, it's terrorism to him. police say there were two shooters, not three, as we thought for much of the day yesterday. a young married couple, both killed in the gun battle with police. today, national correspondent craig melvin is here in san bernardino. he's got the latest on the investigation. hi, craig.

>> matt, good morning to you. police are learning more about that couple who had a 6 month old daughter. she was left with her grandmother hours before the shooting. the suspects later killed in a shootout with police. >> reporter: this morning, shock and disbelief after gunfire range out in this residential neighborhood. >> they are shooting at us, out of the suv. watch your crossfire. >> reporter: heavily armed suspects paralyze the city of san bernardino wednesday, turning quiet streets into war zones. >> we have two suspects that are dead at the scene. one of them, male. one of them, female. they are both armed with assault rifles. they are both armed with handguns. >> reporter: police say the suspects are 28-year-old syed farook, a u.s. citizen, and his wife, 27-year-old tashfeen malik. >> why would we do that? why would he do something like this?

i am in shock myself. >> reporter: the shootout coming hours after the couple opened fire at the inland regional center, killing 14 people and injuring 17 others. officials confirm that farook, a county employee, was at an event being held inside the building before leaving reportedly in an angry state and returning later, opening fire. overnight, police were trying to secure the facility after suspicious devices were discovered inside. six miles away, investigators searched farook's home, and robots were used to deal with any potential explosives. authorities caught up with farook and malik in redlands, a short distance from where the shooting took place. the two were ultimately killed by gunfire. after a day marred by violence, pieces together. trying to figure out just why this happened. >> i know one of the big questions that will come up repeatedly is, is this terrorism?

that we know that for sure. >> now, federal authorities have determined that at least two of the four weapons used by the suspects were legally purchased. there's a news conference that will start 9:00 local. perhaps we'll have more of an answer to the why question. this is the third mass shooting i've covered in seven months. >> i know. >> there's never, so far at least, there's yet to be a simple answer to the why question. >> no way to explain it. craig, thank you very much. savannah, coming up, we're going to talk to a young man who found himself in his home a couple of doors down from where that suv was stopped and that shootout occurred that killed the suspects. he'll tell us his story when we come back here. first, back to you. >> let's see the policy angle of this. in the wake of the mass shooting, the president is reiterating his call for more gun control reform. many of the candidates running for president are adding their voices to the issue, as well. andrea mitchell is on that part

andrea, good morning to you. >> good morning, savannah. once again, president obama reacting to a mass shooting and the failure of congress to pass his gun controls. >> reporter: as the shooting was still unfolding, the president, visibly frustrated. >> we should come together in a bipartisan basis at every level of government to make these rare, as opposed to normal. >> reporter: coming less than a week after the attack on planned parenthood. >> this just doesn't happen in other countries. >> reporter: time after time, the world's most powerful leader, feeling powerless to stop the killing. >> somehow, this has become routine. the reporting is routine. my response here at this podium ends up being routine. >> reporter: all presidential candidates, except marco rubio, responded with comments or tweets. republicans opposed to new gun

>> they do one hell of a job. when you see these shootouts. >> hatred and evil. we need to be able to combat these things. >> reporter: only hours after the shooting, ted cruz invited supporters to a second amendment event at an iowa shooting range, tomorrow. all the talk of prayer prompted an angry tabloid headline in the daily news. god isn't fixing this. frustration echoed by hillary clinton, who made gun control a central campaign issue. tweeting, i refuse to accept this as normal. we must take action to stop gun violence now. now voiced by a gun supporter, bernie sanders. >> we have to move aggressively in terms of gun legislation. >> the president said on october 1st, somehow, we've become numb to all of this. he's also said that his failure to enact what he calls common sense gun laws is the biggest frustration of his presidency. savannah?

we'll send it back to matt in california. >> savannah, thank you. as we said, the suspects were eventually located and chased to a residential area before being killed in a shootout with police. several witnesses capturing that dramatic scene on their cell phones. brian lives nearby and saw police give chase. you were a college student, in classes when the initial shooting took place at the regional center down the road. did word spread through college, what was going on? >> yes. i was actually on break at the time. i received phone calls from my aunt, letting me know what happened. it was hectic because my school was down the road a bit. we weren't sure. >> the timeline, the shooting behind us started about 11:00. >> exactly. >> you made your way home, not far away from the regional center. got home about 2:00, 2:30, and started to watch the coverage on the news. what happened?

the news, i was talking to my family about what happened. we started hearing gunshots outside. we were a bit confused about what was going on, couldn't believe it was so close. backyard backyard, across the street. >> as it turns out, they were a couple houses away. that's where police found the suv with the suspect inside. describe the volley of gunshots that you heard. >> it was -- i could hear automatic and different weapons going on. sounded like gunfire for a couple minutes or so. it was going back and forth. imagine. i understand you also drew the shades or the curtains, so nobody could see in the window. >> exactly. once we started hearing things, my mom called everyone inside to be more protected. there were cop cars going down the street and different army vehicles. >> at one point, didn't you look out in another direction and see police actually apprehend somebody? >> i did. as we turned on the tv to see

gunfire, to see how close it was, i -- you see cop cars looking in our front yard. the cops just apprehended someone, the suspect. >> this is someone we initially thought was a shooting suspect. at the moment, unclear what, if any, connection he had to this incident. can you describe how surreal it must have been, brian, to have a television set in front of you, see the aerial views of what's beginning on that the rest of the country is seeing, and look out your window and see the same thing? >> it was a surreal moment. i thought it was out of a movie or something. you saw a dozen or so different police officers or swat numbers going down the street in methodical order, checking houses. i couldn't believe it, that the whole united states was tuned and, like, on our neighborhood. it was crazy. >> we're happy you're all right and the suspects were stopped in your neighborhood.

story this morning, brian. >> thank you so much. much. savannah, back to you in new york. >> we want to check the other y s >> good morning, everyone. a major turn of events for oscar pistorius. south africa's top appeals court ruled that he is guilty of murder for the 2013 shooting steenkamp. the judge has overturned a lower court conviction on the lesser charge of culpable murder. he faces up to 15 more years in prison when he is sentenced. the secret service is an agency in crisis. this according to a new report from congress. the report documents more than 140 security breaches or attempted breaches at facilities secured by the secret service in the last ten years. in one previously undisclosed incident, four young adults went fishing in vice president joe biden's backyard. neighbors alerted authorities. the report also accused the

service and his two predecessors of giving false information to congressional investigators. officials found no evidence of foul play in the sudden death of the newly elected mayor of juneau, alaska. mayor greg fisk died of natural causes. the report said the 70-year-old had injuries consistent with falling or stumbling into objects. fisk was found dead in his home on monday. he'd just been elected in october. jersey. five fifth graders were arrested for planning to set off an explosive device at the high school. they're 10 and 11 years old. officials at the school learned police. they say the students had written plans and had a suspicious device, but it did explosives. the students were suspended and released to their parents.

york city last night in more ways than one, on a lighter note. tens of thousands of people gathered here for the 83rd lighting of the rockefeller center christmas tree. >> five, four, three, two, one! joy to the world, the lord is come >> just like that, the tree was illuminated with 40,000 l.e.d. lights. the festivities televised on nbc included entertainers like michael buble, james taylor, mary j. blige and sting. it'll stay lit until january 6th. i think we all need a little peace and brightness after the darkness yesterday. >> beautiful moment. >> joy to the world for sure, natalie. i see you're looking at weather in the northwest. >> we're looking at a big system. we talked about this yesterday and we have more coming.

into the cascades, we're going to be looking at snow, as well. the sierras are going to get involved, as well. we start off this morning. you can see the next storm moving on shore. mountain wind gusts of 60 miles per hour. snowfall in the sierra is good news. rain moving inland by tomorrow morning. another storm comes in on saturday. look at the rainfall amounts in some areas. some areas picking up 7 inches of rain, and could be more. snowfall in the sierra, generally 1 to 2 feel in th >> jeremy: good morning. mostly cloudy skies through the day. developing sunshine. also becoming increasingly windy throughout the day. temperatures now not too bad, middle 40s. as we work into the afternoon hours, the numbers begin the slide through the 40s. with that northwest wind, 15 to 30mph. wind chills this afternoon and this evening will feel like the upper 30s. grab a jacket. you don't need the rain gear. that's the good news. mostly sunny skies tomorrow. less wind.

winter >> that's your latest weather. >> al, thank you so much. the deadly rampage in san bernardino is the 355th mass shooting in the u.s. just this year. harry smith has been looking and reflecting on that this morning. good morning to you. >> good morning. there was no justification for murdering people celebrating at a holiday party. no reasoning for gunning down children and their teachers in the classrooms, or people crammed into a movie theater on opening night, or worshippers gathered in prayer. this morning, like so many other mornings, we are searching for answers. let there be peace on earth >> reporter: on a night like last night, who doesn't think about the places we go? >> two, one! >> reporter: the streets we walk down. the malls we shop in.

what about our schools? our churches? the worshippers at a prayer meeting at the emanuel ame church thought they were safe on a wednesday night last june. the students at an oregon community college thought they were safe this past october. as did a reporter and camera man this past august. a movie theater in colorado. an elementary school in connecticut. the events come and they go, and then they come again. ours is the only nation in the civilized world where these events happen with this kind of numbing regularity. the bbc reported wednesday's shooting as -- >> just another day in the united states of america. >> reporter: president obama after the shooting in oregon in october. >> our thoughts and prayers are not enough. and it does nothing to prevent

somewhere else in america. >> reporter: there's someone wrong in a society where murder is easily concocted. if the perpetrators are religious terrorists, we'll be enraged, having someone to blame. what about the other shootings that fill our newscasts? where, we wonder, does it end? >> you know, and it is like we are holding our breath today, waiting to find out what is the motivation behind this? no matter what it is, it's not going to be good news. >> doesn't explain it or justify it. >> not at all. >> no. >> harry, thank you so much. we're should and there are some people . people you should. shouldn't. janice! should. shouldn't. yes. no. should. no way. should. no. definitely not. ha ha, nay. you shouldn't give underwear

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we are back now. it's 8:19. we have alarming news this morning for mothers when it comes to their weight gain during pregnancy. a new study finds that weight gain between pregnancies could raise the risk of stillbirths and infant deaths in a subsequent pregnancy. nbc news medical contributor natalie is here with more. help me understand this study. it's saying, weight gain in issue? >> yeah. that's kind of what sets the study apart from many other studies. we know from a wealth of literature that maternal overweight and obesity poses a higher risk of pregnancy complications, period. the study looks at whether or not gaining weight between the pregnancies have connections to stillbirths. they haven't looked at infant mortality. that's what separates this study

>> are we talking about weight gain, like you can't lose the last ten pounds, or more weight gain than that? >> that's exactly the question we want to talk about. it's actually a small amount. the number that they found that was significant was 4 bmi units, which roughly translates to 2.8 kilograms, which is roughly translated to 6 pounds. for example, if you -- >> hello, i think every woman pregnant is like, i'm six pounds heavier than i was already the first one. >> here are important take homes. the medical stories this week are all really important, in terms of interpreting them in the context of how they were done statistically. meaning that, if you look at the actual numbers, the absolute risk for the mom, the number was 2 in 1,000 pregnancies resulted in stillbirth if you gained weight between pregnancies. that increased only to one extra one per thousand pregnancies. >> yes, there is an increased

>> it's so rare. the relative risk went up by 50% but the absolute risk was one that's really important. a few other points, if you lost weight between pregnancies, it decreased your risk. what's the take home? something we've been saying a lot. maintaining a healthy weight between pregnancies is important. losing your pregnancy weight after the first pregnancy is very important in terms of the health of the second pregnancy and the second baby. i think most experts who interpreted or looked at these results feel it's very important that that number is communicated very carefully. this is not an astronomical risk to woman. it's still small. but it amounts to quite a few important. >> another reason to why to keep a healthy weight between pregnan pregnancies. >> exactly. >> not shocking.

>> we'll send it to our other natalie. sandra bullock is now a mom of two. adopting a daughter. her "people" magazine cover getting a lot of attention and shining a light on the foster care system that is often overlooked. >> reporter: she's the latest celebrity face behind adoption. >> she said to me, love is something we all have, and we have endless supplies of it. we shouldn't horde it. we should really give it out. >> reporter: sandra bullock announcing to "people" magazine that there's a new member of her family. 3 1/2-year-old laila, adopted system. the actress putting foster adoptions into the spotlight, hoping to inspire others, like angelina jolie pitt has done with international adoption. >> somebody with her celebrity can bring the attention that this decision, this personal decision that she has chosen to make public, we owe her a great deal of gratitude.

louie and knew she wanted to find a sibling for him the same way. >> there are thousands and thousands of children in the united states who need homes. her point was, you don't have to be a big celebrity. you don't have to be rich and famous. >> reporter: she also said part of the reason she's going public with her journey is the hope that others will follow in her footsteps. last year, there were more than 400,000 children in foster care. some end up going back to their biological parents or living with a relative. a quarter of them, waiting to be adopted. 7-year-old shay was one of the lucky ones. she was adopted from foster care in february. it was her second home. after two years of fostering, it was made official. >> it was the most amazing feeling in the world. one of my greatest accomplishments in my lifetime. >> reporter: there are so many kids out there who so badly want

she even admits the process can be long, but life changing. >> she said at one point, she felt like she grew another heart life. >> when a kid can close the door behind them and say, this is my home, and it's a home i'm going relief. >> when asked about the challenges of adopting a child who is not an infant, bullock told "people" magazine, you have to be prepared to psychologically educate yourself to the steps you will need to take to repair any damage that may have taken place before your arrival. adding, it is our journey, not just the theirs. >> her family's journey. >> such an important voice she's adding and sharing. there are so, so many kids stuck in the system. >> kids need a loving home. i'm glad she's setting that example. thank you. coming up, how would you like a million bucks in the bank? maybe to be able to retire earlier than you thought. coming up, what we can all learn

>> this is 7news now. >> jadiann: good morning, 8:27. a tough morning on the roads. of course we'll have an update in traffic with danielle, but first a check fofers with j.r. >> jeremy: right now middle boston 49. developing wind, here we go out of the west and northwest. already 20 to 20mph. gusting over 25mph this afternoon with a lot of clouds, a few peeks of sunshine. a cool afternoon. 40s and then 30s by this evening. danielle? >> danielle: good morning. very slow out, there especially on the expressway. not only northbound but southbound, too. let's go to the maps. you'll see we do have an accident in dorchester on the expressway southbound. that's at savin hill. and that's in the left lane.

the pike is slow, too, especially you're crawling through framingham from 495 into boston. a very slow drive. now let's move north. 93 southbound, it's been a mess all morning. it's starting to open up from 495 to 128. but from 128 into boston, still crawling on route 93 and route 1, as well. let's take a look at those drive times. if you're getting ready to head out the door, the expressway, the split to the tunnel, that's a 26-minute ride. almost half hour on the pike from 128 into boston. and 93 southbound, 128 to the zakim bridge, that's about half hour, too. the "t's" on time, though. jadiann, back to you. >> jadiann: thank you, danielle. "today in new england" returns at 9:00, everyone.

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tonight is the live event on waiting for it for a long time. the "wiz," starring mary j. blige, queen latina and tee tifah latifah. it's here on nbc. >> let's get a check of the weather. >> announcer: drive for good on mazda. >> let's show you what we've got is concerned. for today, a lot of wet weather in the pacific northwest. icy conditions, mountain snows, heavy rain, icy mix in northern new england and snow. look for heavy rain down through southern florida. tomorrow, that will continue. snow through the cascades and the inner mountain region. look more sunshine through the gulf coast and into florida. we're looking for more heavy rain. mid-atlantic states, looking >> jeremy: good morning. mostly cloudy skies through the day.

also becoming increasingly windy throughout the day. temperatures now not too bad, middle 40s. as we work into the afternoon hours, the numbers begin the slide through the 40s. 30mph. wind chills this afternoon and upper 30s. grab a jacket. you don't need the rain gear. that's the good news. mostly sunny skies tomorrow. less wind. look at the weekend. winter >> that is your latest weather. during last night's christmas tree lighting, got to meet stephanie. she won $30,000 for her charity, the confetti foundation, as part of mazda's drive for good campaign. stephanie joins us now. good morning. >> thank you for having me. >> talk about the confetti foundation. >> it's a non-profit that i started for hospital children to celebrate their birthdays. >> it's sweet. where are you based out of? >> newport, rhode island, but we service the u.s.

>> we give a birthday box, all the supplies are available to throw a sweet birthday party in the hospital room. >> if people want to help, how do they do it? >> plenty of ways to get involved. become a birthday fairy where you drop off the boxes at your hospital. you can make birthday cards. we always need birthday supplies. >> how do they get in touch? >> confetti foundation.org to learn more. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. >> back to you. >> al, thank you so much. now, to today ees 's season savings. we've been covering bad spending habits and credit card debt. now, how it's time to keep our accounts in the green. how does having $1 million in savings by 35 sound? retiring by 50 or 40? keep people that the "new york times" calls super savers. >> my name is darlene. >> i'm ann houston and i live in stillwater, oklahoma.

>> i was able to retire at 52. i started a business at 30. i had the help of a brilliant strategist accountant. together, we set a plan that made all the difference. >> i've not had a raise in ten years, but i have no debt. a financial adviser i totally trust. and a life plan to help me manage finances. >> i saved seven figures by the time i was 35. i was able to decrease my spending by over $10,000 a year. simply by cutting out everything that wasn't important to me. now, i can retire well before the age of 40. >> sounds good. here to break down their secrets to saving is today's financial editor, gene jean chatzky. good morning. >> good morning. >> i like the super savers because they seem like they're having fun. not living the lifestyle of a monk. >> they are not. that's because they've managed to figure out what their values are and line up spending with their values. they might be able to trip, but cut back on eating out.

if you don't know what it is, keep a spending diary. you write down what you bought, how much you paid for it and how you feel about it. then go back a week later. write how you feel again. you'll see those line up. >> first thing, figuring out what you care about. next, you say, cut out the big things, which seems like, duh. >> except we are always talking about coffee. how we cut out coffee and how much of a difference it can make. let's look at the big stuff. we spend 80% of money on 20% of the stuff. rent or mortgage and transportation. if you downsize where you're living a little bit, you not only shrink the size of your mortgage, but insurance, taxes, utilities, it all reverberates. you get rid of one car, maybe you live with one instead of two. >> did you explain the 80/20 rule? >> you spend 80% on money for 20% of stuff. >> set goals. >> not just set goals, but make

ma sure that there are steps you can fulfill to achieve those goals. write them down. a piece of research said we are 42% more likely to achieve our goals if we write them down. make sure you know what you want and you've got steps to go for it. >> you're accountable to yourself. >> yup. >> the next one, i like. doesn't involve too much. automate everything. >> once you've got your goals, you have to make it happen. you don't want to have to think about it all the time. when you know how much you want to save, every single time you get paid, funnel the money into your 401(k), your 529s, a plain savings account. when you go to the atm, you don't see the number and think, there's money for me to spend. >> the next one is a good one. leave your investments alone. once you've saved the money, don't touch it. >> the thing that can kill you along the way to this journey is the market tumbles and you think, oh, my gosh, i have to get my money out of the stock market. big mistake. you're never going to be able to

if you have a long term -- >> even if you're older and closer to retirement? >> you have different asset allocation if you're close to retirement. you still want to stick with your plan. that means not moving it out. retirement is a really long time. when the markets tumble, focus on accumulating more shares in your investment instead of the price. the markets are down, you can buy more shares at a cheaper price and feel good about that. >> you get a fire sale. >> exactly. >> focus on your income. what do you mean? >> a lot of people haven't gotten a raise in a long time. if you are not being paid what you're worth, and you can go to websites like salary.com to figure out what you should be making, now is the time to ask for a raise. if you don't ask, the answer is always no. >> i guess nothing ventured, nothing gained. >> exactly. >> jean chatzky, thank you so >> sure. >> for all the tips, go to today.com. up next, john cusack, live in studio 1a. we're excited to chat with him. first, this is "today" on

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we are back at 8:41. actor, producer and screenwriter john sue cusack has been in movie mrs. than three decades. >> it's not true. >> it is. he stars in "chi-raq" about gun violence in chicago. he plays a pastor and activist, deeply involved in the community. >> first of all, when a murderer walks free, we are all in danger. [ applause ] multiple witnesses. what makes someone a target is not the shooting. what makes someone a target is the community. that surround enders to fear. >> john cusack, good morning to you. >> nice to see you.

been happening in chicago and our world. this movie takes on gun violence and violence in communities in an interesting way. >> yeah, it's a retelling ofless les estrada. what we read in school. >> what i pretended to read. >> it's a satire. the culture wants to go to war and keep going to war. the women start a sex strike. actually, it's been -- happened, i think, in liberia and happened some places. it's a saf tire. it's not a comedy, in the sense that, it's about serious things. network and other satires, it's a way to put a lens on things that are tragic and we become numb to. >> it's an interesting rhetorical device. the women of this community ban together and say, you know what? here's how we're going to get the attention of the men we

we're going to withhold sex. now, your character is a minister, based on a real person. >> michael flager. he, like a lot of other people in churches, synagogues, mosques, do this work, this incredible work, every day. day in and day out. trying to keep their neighborhood safe. even as we speak right now, from -- father mike gave me this site, hey jackass.com. it's the site of local -- the community that keeps track of this stuff. there's been 198 people shot in shove so far november so far. since the video was released, of the young man who got killed, there's been 45 shot and wounded. total shot, 55. 12 homicides. how many people do you think have been shot and wounded in

what would your guess be? >> i don't know if i could venture a guess. >> 2,762. >> this is your hometown. >> 465 homicides. these are really sobering numbers. communities are living with this every day. desperately asking for them and attention, and for some sane reform. >> the movie really brings to light those issues. separately, you have another project called love and mercy. >> yeah. >> tell me about that. are you playing brian wilwilson? >> yeah. and paul plays him when he was a younger man, in the beach boys. two portraits of brian we hope harmonize together. >> were you a fan, brian wilson? >> oh, yeah. high fidelity, these record store owners. the only thing snobs could agree

everyone's top five. he was a real -- he's a true genius and pioneer. it was an honor to play him. >> great to have you here. you have two interesting projects. in a romantic comedy. >> i'd love to do one. you have to get offered one. >> are you listening, hollywood? john cusack, congrats on these projects. "chi-raq" opens in theaters tomorrow. up next, we'll do some cooking. one-plan recipe for the perfect roast chicken. first, this is "today" on nbc. wow, that is good delicious introducing milkwise original with 46% fewer calories, 33% less sugar, and 50% more calcium than 2% milk it's great taste and better nutrition new milkwise go from milk to amazing it's the holidays. which means a house full of people -- who all want to get online. so it's the perfect time for verizon fios. it has the fastest internet and wifi available. with speeds from

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contessa, is here, and her new cookbook, "make it ahead." >> it's the holidays and everyone wants something easy. i love things you can make ahead. >> what are we making? >> a chicken with arugula salad. it's all in one platter. chicken, obviously, and roasted on a bed of bread. with a mustard vinaigrette. it has arugula and the whole thing in one. the bred ad you roast it with is chopped up with croutons. >> everyone can make this but when you make it, it's magical and special. >> thank you. >> i want to get all the details. >> i take a raw chicken. to give it flavor, i separate the skin from the breast and put chopped garlic underneath. >> you have the spoon trick. >> there is a wooden spoon trick. sometimes i use my fingers. you can do it with a wooden spoon so you don't break the skin. what i do is put thyme underneath.

off, and put it right underneath. under the legs and then all you have to do is -- people trust these chickens like it's in bondage. you don't have to. tie up the legs, simple. i tuck the wings under. that's it. no big deal. first, you have to be able to tie. that's a critical detail. tie them up like that. >> great. >> the key thing is, what i do is salt it. it's really important. you salt it in advance, just like that. let it sit in the refrigerator for about 24, 48 hours. >> okay. >> then you clean your hands. these wonderful sanitizing wipes. very important. >> so viewers don't write? >> what i do, too, is put thyme in the cavity so it flavors it. >> great. >> the next day when you're charge? >> i am. >> bread on the bottom of the chicken chicken. >> bottom of the pan. straight? >> just like that.

my hands have been in the chicken. >> you like thick, crusty bread. >> i do. >> you do this the nigh before, t before, pull it out and put it right on. >> doesn't have to be room temperature. add olive oil so it gets brown. >> what's the oven preheated to? >> 500 degrees. surprisingly hot. when you roast it, what happens is, all the juices in the chicken get into the -- this is what it looks like after. >> yum. isn't that gorgeous? >> looks beautiful. what you >> what you end up with, the chicken is perfectly done. that goes here. >> aren't you impressed with carson? he seems to know what he's doing. >> no one uses tongs on television better than me. >> everybody says, the croutons are burnt. that's the point. you cut these into squares, just like this. >> they have to taste delicious. >> they're so -- really. these are incredible.

>> let me check in with the people downstairs. >> i love the burnt croutons. >> who is in charge of the vinaigrette vinaigrette? >> savannah knows how to ard er order. >> i'll put in the scallions. >> what's in the vinaigrette? >> champagne vinaigrette with mustard. that goes over the salad. >> all of it then. >> watch this. carve the chicken, cut up the croutons and which is what you end up with. isn't that gorgeous? >> it's a plate of love. >> my wouldn't look like that. >> exactly like that. >> if ina garten burns something, it tastes delicious. the rest of us, not so much. >> everyone remembers their mother burning things. they know what it tastes like. >> how is the chicken, guys? >> oh, my gosh, heaven on a plate. >> perfect. >> yummy. >> eat, have a bite. >> i have to get a bite. i have to get a crouton. >> you first. >> okay.

>> i love that you put it -- >> are you kidding me? >> the chicken melts in your mouth. the lemon zest is fantastic. the crouton is ridiculously crunchy crunchy. >> put it in the middle of the table and everyone helps themselves. >> i fell in love with your croutons. >> we have family coming into our house. put this in the middle of the table and say, go for it. >> roast chicken with the volume turned up. are you coming back to make cocktails? >> we are making cocktails. >> my better half -- siri is in love with this lady. i'll have a hug for her. bingo! gotcha. >> bingo, one for you, too. all these recipes are at today.com/food. back in a moment.

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carson has made his way to the orange room to get us ready for what is a yearly tradition around here. >> i could have sat up there with ina for a long time. i made it down here. "time" magazine will reveal their pick for person of the year next wednesday on "today." we'll give you a short list. there's speculation about who it might be. here's the reveal, who is it going to be on wednesday? more recently, last year in 2014, the ebola fighters were the person of the year.

the first ever on the magazine cover. charles lindenberg for the sole flight across the atlantic. then many people had the cover two years, but one has been on it three years. fdr in fdr. going back to 1962, non-traditional, the computer. endangered earth in '88. the digital user in 2006. again, on monday, we're going to give you the short list. you can start your guessing using #orange room. we'll give you the first look at the short list and the reveal will be here on wednesday. any guesses? >> i know leading in their reader poll was bernie sanders and malala. >> i would like to nominate the crouton by ina garten we just ate. >> you have a little crouton. >> do i? >> we wanted to bury our heads in it. >> wouldn't you feel bad if you lost to a crouton?

>> what do you think, carson? >> maybe the pope. how about the pope? >> oh, yeah. >> pope's journey this year, coming to the states. >> could be a non-traditional choice again, the isis terrorists. certainry ry >> person of the year isn't always a good thing. >> in the past, they've done many. >> what's next hour? >> we'll be talking more about the shooting. wayne brady. jason schwartzman all stopping

>> police identifying a husband and wife as shooter behind a

the motive still a mystery. also breaking convicted of murder south african olympian oscar pistorius convicted again in the death of his model girlfriend. the search for suspect mind a brutal crime in worcester that left a mother dead. bomb sniffing dog at cambridge school following new e-mail threat. we're live. >> sunshine working back into new england through the day. a windy day. forecast up next. all that and much more. >> coming up next at 9:00. if you told us that simply was the most perfect orange juice in the world, gosh, we wouldn't know what to say... except the customer is always right. never frozen. never sweetened. never concentrated. simply orange.