those things where you go, oh, i don't know. that's a lot to live up to. and the fans have responded. and they love you, buddy. >> it's been great. >> jimmy: congratulations. you're phenomenal. you're great. [ cheers and applause ] dead & company, everybody. for tickets to their summer tour, go to deadandcompany.com. my thanks to vince vaughn, ryan seacrest, dead & company. and the roots out there, ladies and gentlemen. [ cheers and applause ] stay tuned for "late night with seth meyers." thanks for watching. have a great night. hope to see you tomorrow. bye-bye. [ cheers and applause ] [ cheers and applause ] >> announcer: from 30 rockefeller plaza in new york, it's "late night with seth meyers." tonight --

carice van houten. featuring the 8g band with fred armisen. ladies and gentlemen, seth meyers! >> seth: good evening, i'm seth meyers. this is "late night." how's everybody doing tonight? [ cheers and applause ] very good to hear. in that case, let's get to the news. donald trump admitted during an interview yesterday that in some ways he is very similar to bernie sanders. "yes," said one observer. "they're both in my way!" [ laughter ] during last night's republican town hall, ted cruz confirmed that he sometimes calls his wife and sings to her, to which his wife always replies, "oh, no, i'm entering a tunnel." [ laughter ] ben carson said during last night's town hall that he shoots pool to relax.

because based on his energy level, i would have guessed heroin. [ laughter ] pope francis suggested today that donald trump is not a christian because he wants to build a wall with mexico. yeah, what kind of christian would build a wall to keep people out? [ laughter ] forgot about that one. donald trump responded to criticism from pope francis today and said the pontiff will wish trump was president if, and when, the vatican is attacked by isis. though i think what he meant to say was, "it's a nice vatican you got there. be a shame if something was to happen to it. [ laughter ] maybe watch what you say, because it's a beautiful place." donald trump said this week that jeb bush has swapped out his glasses for contacts because he wants to look cool, while ted cruz doesn't. [ laughter ] that's right.

said this week that jeb bush has swapped out his glasses for contacts because he wants to look cool. and dr. ben carson is also trying a new eyewear to make him seem more energetic. [ laughter ] you got to wear those after you shoot heroin. [ laughter ] pool. the university of texas has decided to allow students to carry guns in the classroom. the school says it's guaranteed way to prevent the possibility of a pop quiz. [ laughter ] a delta flight on monday had to stay in the air for 30 hours due to weather delays on the east coast. even worse when one customer got off the plane, no one had texted her. [ laughter ] 30 hours? my instagram something and

[ laughter ] a chinese man recently held what he called a pre-funeral for himself to see how many people would show up to his real funeral. and if he's the kind of guy that would do that, i'm going to guess not many. [ laughter ] and finally, kim kardashian said on tuesday that she makes a make shift bra out of gaffers tape before red carpet events to make her breasts look better. kardashian called it her second-favorite use for gaffers tape. [ laughter ] ladies and gentlemen, we have a great show for you tonight! [ cheers and applause ] from the new movie "forsaken," kiefer sutherland is back on the show. [ cheers and applause ] and you know her from "game of thrones." she's also in a wonderful new film, "race," carice van houten is back on the show as well. [ cheers and applause ] back live. that's always fun. before we get to that, the fbi and apple are currently engaged in a dispute over whether apple should help the fbi gain access to the iphone of a terror

privacy of national security. for more on this, it's time for a closer look. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: so for months, months, law enforcement agencies and privacy groups have been debating whether tech companies like apple should give the government the ability to access encrypted information on customer smartphones. and yesterday that dispute came to a head. >> a landmark showdown in the debate over privacy versus security. >> a judge is ordering apple to help the fbi break into a cell that belonged to one of the san bernardino shooters. >> apple ceo tim cook says he will fight the court order. >> cook is accusing the u.s. government of an overreach that will set a dangerous precedent. >> seth: that's right. cook refused the judge's order, although technically he never received it because the judge tried to find him on apple maps. [ laughter ] so here's the issue. the fbi has the iphone of one of the san bernardino shooters but the phone is locked.

take would be trying to unlock the phone using obvious passwords, like 1234, 9999, and a favorite for isis, 1515. [ laughter ] but the problem with that is they only get ten tries thanks to apple's strong security protection. >> the iphone that they found, that they want to get into is like this. it is actually a 5c. but you have to enter this code in order to get into the phone. and the trick here, and what the fbi wants to defeat is a security feature in the phone. if you punch the wrong number in more than ten times, the contents of the phone are permanently scrambled. it is kind of a self-destruct security feature. >> seth: not to be confused with the self-destruct feature on your iphone screen which is to drop it once from literally any height. [ laughter ] apple has always been good with security. they wouldn't even let steve jobs in the building unless he wore the same thing every day. [ laughter ] so the fbi isn't asking apple

that. they're asking apple to develop a software that currently does not exist that will allow the fbi to hack the phone. apple ceo tim cook is against this becauau he's worried that creating this kind of master key to access a phone's data could lead to dangerous privacy violations. >> on your smartphone today, your iphone, there is likely health information. there's financial information. there are intimate conversations with your family or your co-workers. there's probably business secrets. and you should have the ability to protect it. if there is a way to get in, then somebody will find a way in. >> seth: once the key is developed, it is a slippery slope that begins with the fbi seeing terrorist text messages and ends with everyone seeing your bathroom selfies. [ laughter ] and not even the bathroom selfie you sent. the practice ones where the seat was up. [ laughter ] the fbi claims they would only but once it exists it exists, like those sci-fi movies where

lab and say, "don't worry, it'll never get out." but then the next thing you know some chimpanzee in a bad mood kicks the door open and then you live the rest of your life walking down the highway with your dog and a shotgun. [ laughter ] so this is an important debate to have. what are the privacy trade offs and are they worth it? but it's also a debate that has produced some very unfortunate terminology. >> ceo tim cook says the government wants the company to build a back door. >> it wants a back door. >> quote unquote back door. >> this back door access. >> the back door entry. >> what they call a back door method. >> our federal government should have to get a warrant whether they want to come through your back door or your front door. [ laughter ] >> seth: no. no presidential candidate should ever be allowed to say the words "come through your back door." [ laughter ] it's like hearing your parents say, "foreplay." [ laughter ] so privacy experts and tech companies are very concerned about this push for a so-called back door that would allow the government to access encrypted smartphones. but that's not the only troubling aspect of the government's request. there is also the issue of how they made the request using

act of 1789, a law dating to the colonial era that's been used to issue orders that are not otherwise covered by a statute. that's right. the fbi is using a 1789 law to get into an iphone. 1789. a time when people only used blackberries. [ laughter ] "oh, paul revere just bbm'd me, the british are coming." [ laughter ] nonetheless, apple has come under fire from some republicans as well as some democrats who security outweigh the privacy costs. gop front-runner donald trump said wednesday at apple, "who do they think they are? we have to open it up." technology and national security, trump doesn't exact >> isis is recruiting through the internet. better than we are using the internet and it was our idea. i don't want them using our internet. we should be able to penetrate the internet.

penetrate the internet? through the back door. there you go. [ laughter and applause ] at this point the entire encryption debate sounds like dirty mad libs. [ laughter ] but trump isn't alone. this is actually one of the problems with this debate. it's very complicated and it's clear some of our politicians don't really understand it. take for example, presidential candidate john kasich, who was asked if he would support an encryption back door during a debate last month and gave this cagey answer. >> well look, their joint -- the joint terrorism task forces needs resources and they need tools. and those are made up of the fbi, state, and local law enforcement. and megan it's best not to talk any more about back doors and encryption. it will get solved but it needs room of the white house with the technology folks. >> that's public -- >> but -- i just have to tell these things not be said. question like a virgin trying to what? yeah. i totally touched your boobs. they were like round. [ laughter ] ask tough questions before we

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[ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back, everybody. please give it up for the 8g band right over there. [ cheers and applause ] also, always such a pleasure to have fred armisen back on drums. how are you fred? >> fred: great, how you doing? [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: you can check out fred season six of "portlandia" which is airing right now on ifc and also in theaters now, "zoolander 2." fred, you're hilarious in that. it's so great for me when fred is back because we get to catch up. we get to talk about things. one of the things we talk about a lot, tv. we both love tv. i often complain to fred i feel like there's too much tv, very hard to keep up with everything. fred says for him that is not the case. fred claims to me -- i hope you're not making this up -- fred claims to me he has seen every tv show, every episode of every tv show. true, not true? >> fred: very true. >> seth: it's true. >> fred: everything. >> seth: you didn't just say it to impress me. >> fred: no, everything. >> seth: okay, that means it's time once again for fred armisen's extremely accurate tv recap. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: okay, so i'm going to give you the title of the show. you're going to tell me what happened on the last episode,

>> seth: "london spy." >> fred: "london spy." [ laughter ] wow, "london spy." great. it's my favorite right now. >> seth: oh, it's your favorite show currently on tv. >> fred: "london spy." >> seth: yes. >> fred: it's incredible. it's an incredible show. have you seen it? >> seth: no. >> fred: nothing. >> seth: no. >> fred: not the latest episode? >> seth: no. >> fred: oh, seth, it's so good. >> seth: great, tell me about it. >> fred: okay, so it's this stereo store, right? and the store -- the guys are from london, ontario, in canada. [ cheers and applause ] they know the show, this is such a huge deal. >> seth: that's so great because i will admit, "london spy," i assumed london, england. >> fred: no. it is london. the gentleman who runs the stereo store's name is james spy. [ light laughter ] and, so customer comes in and is like, "i have speakers, i've got a stereo, i got zero cables." and he's like, "i'm sorry about that." and so the customer is like, "well i'm coming here to buy-- why do you think i'd be coming here to buy, you know, anything? i want cables."

have to yell at me about it. [ light laughter ] i'm going to go upstairs." so he goes up one flight, he goes up another flight, goes up another flight, comes down two flights. [ light laughter ] up one more, can't find the cables. >> seth: oh, he's looking for cables. >> fred: yes, looking for cables. goes down in the basement and gets locked in. and that's when the show starts. [ laughter ] that's all back story. that's on the website. that's on the website. >> seth: that's on the website. you don't see that? >> fred: i'm so sorry, yes. >> seth: you have to read something on a website before an episode? >> fred: yes. it starts where he's in the basement and he's locked in. it's really just great acting. [ light laughter ] >> seth: okay, what is the theme song? [ laughter ] i think i have seen it. that's fantastic. "london spy." now, according to "tv guide," it is a spy show on bbc america and the last episode danny is

>> fred: yeah. yeah. and he's in a basement. >> seth: fantastic. i got to check it out. [ cheers and applause ] fred armisen everybody. you know our first guest tonight portrayal of jack bauer on the hit series "24," he stars in the new western "forsaken," which is in theatres and available on itunes and on demand starting tomorrow. let's take a look. >> all through the war i kept asking myself where was god. where was he at shiloh at seven dying. all good men, god fearing men. they're just laying there, begging for some small life and mercy on his behalf. and then it finally dawned on me. there ain't no god. [ crash ] >> there is no god? >> i'm saying, if there was ever a time that man needed god, it was then. and trust me, he wasn't there. if you're expecting god to save

the show, kiefer sutherland. [ cheers and applause ] >> i'm doing well. i'm doing well. you back. >> thank you. >> seth: want to talk about your new film but i have to say, "zoolander 2." you are in "zoolander 2." you steal the film. are you absolutely fantastic in "zoolander 2." >> i think that's a little bit overstepping but thank you very >> seth: you play -- owen wilson is in an orgy group. >> yes. >> seth: and you're one of the people in the orgy group. [ laughter ] are you pregnant with his baby. >> i'm carrying his child. >> seth: and it's fantastic because you play it exactly as straight as the clip we just saw from your new drama. [ laughter ] >> i thought it was really dramatic stuff. >> seth: yeah, well i bought in and it was really fantastic. >> the truth is when you're going to work with someone like owen wilson or ben stiller, i mean these guys are so amazing and they're such beautiful comedians. it is almost like a life

play it as straight as you can and maybe you'll survive it. >> seth: it's great. everybody should see it. now this, as we saw in this clip, you are working with your father, donald sutherland, a legend in his own right. how different is it -- i mean obviously you're playing his son, a very different father-son relationship than i assuming you have in real life. >> yeah. [ laughter ] a little. not much. >> seth: you guys do not seem to get along right there. >> no. >> seth: are you -- does it make it harder or easier to work with your father? >> i think for me, it's -- that's a two-folded answer. i've wanted to do this for 30 years. you know, my father is the kind of actor that certainly i wanted to aspire to be. and so i was so excited when we were finally there and we were going to start shooting and the night before, i panicked and i thought, "what have i done? what if he hates the way i work? what if he doesn't like the work i do?" and i didn't sleep at all that night. i walked up to him the next morning, first moment on the

little rocky this morning for some reason last night i got really nervous. i haven't slept at all last night." he said, "last night? i haven't slept all week." [ laughter ] and he made me laugh and it kind of went away. then it was awesome. then the other funny part for me was, i studied my father as an actor. from the time i was 16, 17 years old. and he's a really beautiful physical actor. and i remember i was actually at the front of the scene that you just showed. and he did something with his hand that was really cool. and i remember stepping out of kind of character in my own head and going, "oh, i should remember that, that was really cool." then there was a long pause and i thought, "wow, it would be really cool if i would have remembered to say my lines i was supposed to say." [ laughter ] so i had to just kind of be really aware to stay in the moment because he's one of my favorite actors. and at times i found myself just watching him. >> seth: well, it was very natural. fantastic to see you guys act together. i also have to say, you look very comfortable on a horse. and a lot of times actors don't. especially in westerns.

>> have you ever seen woody harrelson ride a horse? >> seth: does he look good or circuit. really from around '92 right up until 2000 until i started "24." >> seth: you're already kiefer sutherland then. you're already an actor and you actually were out at rodeos, roping -- >> that didn't service me very well though. >> seth: what were the sort of -- >> i think the first rodeo i was at was in san antone, texas. and i'm nervous, it's my first-- >> seth: that's the only time you can say to somebody, "this isn't my first rodeo." [ laughter ] >> that's right. >> seth: the only day. that's the only day you can't say that. >> that's right. and i was nervous and i was backing my horse into the box. got the cow in my sight like this, and i got my rope ready. and i was just taking the right time for my horse to settle. and all i hear in the back is, "come on, hollywood, show them what you got." they made so much fun of me. and of course, that didn't help me very much. and then within the year i started placing and i started doing well.

phoenix. and all of a sudden it went from making fun of and calling me hollywood to guys would come up and go, "hey, if you need another partner in tucson, let me know." >> seth: that's fantastic having a second career like that and to hit that height. >> well, it certainly wasn't a career. there is a reason why i went back to acting. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> i remember the first buckle that i won when i tallied it up, i think it cost like $1.2 million. the horses, trucks, trailers, the farm, everything else to start doing this. >> seth: you're the only other person who has a $1.2 million -- >> it's the most expensive piece of clothing that i bought. >> seth: i bet donald trump has a $1.2 million belt buckle. >> and i bet he didn't earn it. >> seth: you're right. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] you're 100% right. is obviously when you're in hollywood you end up on the cover of magazines. this, though, must be an achievement, a career achievement. because not many -- you were on the cover of this months "cowboy and indian." [ light laughter ] >> yes. >> seth: which is a real thing.

>> seth: no it's not, well obviously-- but when it started that made perfect sense. [ laughter ] and that's great. again, you look like you know what you're doing. >> well, thank you. >> seth: we mentioned your father. your daughter is also an actress. >> yes. >> seth: she's very funny. she plays julia louis-dreyfus' daughter on "veep." >> on "veep", yeah. >> seth: but you had her on set as well, right? she helped out on "24"? >> my daughter was an amazing student, but there was a point when i kept saying, "you're 16 years old, you need to have a job. you need to have a summer job, you need to know what it's like to work." she said, "i'll just go work with you." i go, "no, that's not what i meant. i meant mcdonald's or something." she said, "oh, i can't do that. i won't do that." so we tried it out. she came to work with me on the set of "24." and she was a production assistant. a production assistant is kind of at the bottom of the ladder. they'll get you coffee, they'll yell rolling when we start to shoot. we had -- our set was a really well oiled machine and when the crew worked, the crew worked and the actors left them alone. and when the actors came on, it was very quiet and that's the way we liked it and we would do

done quickly. we were doing this one scene and half-way through the scene, this person starts yelling rolling, rolling, and i'm like who the -- is doing that. [ light laughter ] forget it. we start again, we start again. about quarter way through the scene, "rolling, rolling." i'm like "what the -- okay, come on, let's go. tell them to start calling out roll." third time it happens again i finally i lose it, i go -- i start marching out the door. and i stop and i turned around. the entire crew was quiet. i went, "that's my daughter, isn't it?" i don't think they've ever laughed as hard as they did at that moment. that was the end of my career. [ laughter ] >> seth: well there you go. she's elevated past it. >> but she has a unique respect for the p.a.s on her show. >> seth: well that's nice. each of it. now you, because jack bauer is so recognizable, is it still a role people recognize you for?

bad asses, is there a certain expectation when they meet you that you'll match that? >> i don't know if people just can't pronounce kiefer and jack's a lot easier. i have been in a bar or two over the course of my life where someone's wanted to pick a fight because i played jack bauer. >> seth: that's fantastic. >> so i get that a lot. and i get, "i thought you were taller." >> seth: oh yeah, that's another one. >> so both of those, i actually as a good canadian boy, as you referenced to london, ontario, i just simply apologize to them. >> seth: there you go, you apologize for your height. [ applause ] confirmation on. >> twelve canadians. canadians, yes. >> awesome. >> seth: there was more but they didn't know if it was polite to interrupt. >> sorry! >> seth: yeah, sorry we clapped. [ light laughter ] i want confirmation on this story because the lonely island andy samberg, akiva schaffer, jorma taccone, they told a story years ago to me before they were on "snl" they were shooting one on them.

>> one of the most embarrassing kind of moments that i certainly got of myself on film. and i was driving down the street and i couldn't help but notice an elderly woman walking with a lot of groceries. and the reason why it stuck out to me is no one walks in los angeles. so i kind of was watching her. and then out from behind a tree jumped these two kids and they knocked her down and they steal her purse. pissed me off. [ light laughter ] so i just threw on the brake in my car, i jumped out and chased them down, knocked the one down, grabbed the purse, was just about to hit the other and someone's hitting me from behind. i'm like -- turn around, it's the grandmother with her cane and i realized, it's a guy. [ laughter ] and i got one by the throat and i've got the other cane like this. the other's yelling, "no, we're just making a movie!" [ laughter ] i looked at him and i see the three kids and i look across the street and there's andy with his

hiding in a tree. and i was like, "oh, my god, i'm so sorry." and i tried to put the one kid back together, and then just run and get back in my car. i thought that was the end of it. of course, the three guys that were making that film were incredible comedians and they showed it on "david letterman" like five years later. [ laughter ] and, yeah, i was embarrassed by that. >> seth: one thing i will say though, they always said, "here's how kick-ass kiefer sutherland is." everybody in la drove by us beating up a woman all day long. you were the only one who stopped and did anything about it. so there is some jack bauer in there. >> so true. >> seth: thank you so much for being here. always excited to see you. [ cheers and applause ] congrats on the film. kiefer sutherland, everybody. "forsaken" is in theatres and available on itunes and on demand starting tomorrow. we'll be right back with carice van houten.

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[ cheers and applause ] >> seth: you know our next guest from her work as the red priestess melisandre in the critically acclaimed hbo show

beginning friday you can also see her playing infamous german filmmaker leni riefenstahl in the new film "race." let's take a look. >> nothing? >> not mine. >> would you mind, wondala? last time, i promise. >> the service. hey isn't that cheating? >> cheating? >> yeah, i'm just saying, it's not the actual jump i made. >> you did make that jump. we all saw it. you make history out there. all i'm doing is making sure years from now those people who weren't there can see it, too. so they never forget what you did. >> seth: please welcome back to the show my good friend,

[ cheers and applause ] >> seth: how are you, my friend? >> oh, good. after that awkward dance. >> seth: yeah, that was a good awkward dance though. i think that people will be trying to learn that dance. [ laughter ] they're be watching it over and over again. this is -- i'm very excited to see you. and i have to ask you about this because you were doing press all day today and you were doing a morning show and you met mike tyson this morning. >> yes, i did. >> seth: yeah, and we have a photo of you and mike tyson. and this is fantastic. [ laughter ] to see you going at it, how was your interaction with iron mike tyson? >> well, he was talking -- he was promoting donald trump. >> seth: yeah. >> and then i had to fight him. >> seth: yeah, there you go. [ laughter ] and so there you had to lay it down. >> what are you gonna do? i had to lay it down. >> seth: even in -- obviously you're dutch, you're from holland. people are talking about donald trump over there? and they very aware of what's going on? >> oh yes. >> seth: yeah. very -- everybody's really excited about it? [ laughter ] no? this is so exciting because we've known each other a long time. i'm a huge fan of yours on "game of thrones." and yet every time i see you, you give me give me nothing. you give me no spoilers, which is good because then i enjoy the show more then when i'm watching it.

doing a season, do you have questions for the writers? do you want to find out what's happing? >> oh, yes, i have several questions. one is will i be alive, of course. >> seth: yeah, that's a good one. >> the second one is will i be naked. >> seth: okay. >> since i had to go to the gym yesterday. >> seth: right. >> and the third one is am i going to fly on the dragon this year? >> seth: oh, you -- so you're like -- you're pro the idea of flying on a dragon. >> oh yeah. >> seth: yeah, that'd be a good thing. >> hell yeah. >> seth: a good move for your chara -- now this is interesting because for the first time the shows have moved past the books this season. so it used to be that people like myself, who have read the books, people couldn't spoil things for us because we knew it. now you're in a unique position where you could like drop fake spoilers all day long and like throw people down crazy rabbit holes where they wondered who -- >> i mean that's so great that we're there now. >> seth: yeah. >> i'm not -- i'm as smart as the readers. >> seth: yeah. >> you know i felt a little bit stupid before now we're all in the same boat. that's good. >> seth: yes. equal intelligence. >> for everyone. >> seth: for everyone.

say whatever i want now. i can say i'm going to eat daenerys this season. >> seth: yeah. >> or i'm going to -- fry -- a dragon. or you know, whatever. >> seth: you should fry a dragon. no. you had a great -- one of the questions that you won't answer, no matter how many times i ask you, nobody knows what's going to happen with john snow. and last year you had a scene with him where you seduced john snow. melisandre was seducing john snow and you were telling me there was a stage direction that was very helpful but did not -- is not really in the tone of a the "game of thrones" sketch. or "game of thrones" scene. >> no, it was very funny because there was -- yes, i had to seduce him in my own melisandre kind of way. and there was in the script it said -- he says something like, "i cannot do that because i, i made a vow." and then it said, melisandre

[ laughter ] it was like -- i was like, i'm in such a cool show and this is written in the script? [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah. since i will tell you, "bitch, please," never turns up in the books. [ laughter ] at no point. now the other thing about -- >> of course the other thing. >> seth: the other thing is you gave one of the great birth scenes in the history of television. melisandre gave birth to a shadow baby. >> yeah. >> seth: and obviously it's not a real baby. it is all special effects. what was it like the day you shot a scene where you were birthing a shadow baby? because it is not like you can look at other actors' past works. [ laughter ] i think katherine hepburn had a shadow baby scene. i'll watch that. >> well, it was a beautiful day. it was northern ireland in november in the winter. >> seth: oh, no. >> in a drafty cave naked with an adhd irishman next to me. i love ian -- liam -- i will

>> seth: yep. >> sorry, liam, i'm going to make it up to you. and -- [ laughter ] and -- he's going to give me [ bleep ] for this. >> seth: yeah. >> and you know, i was -- and i had a prosthetic belly on. prosthetic merkin, i don't know if people know what a merkin it but it's -- >> seth: it like drops. >> i might have told this before. but -- sort blocks -- it sort of blocks, yes. it blocks a lot. >> seth: yes. >> it rubs at your whole private parts. and it's sort of -- it's connected to a prosthetic belly and in the prosthetic belly there were all sorts of tubes leading to other people in the cave that would blow in the tubes to make my belly look sort of alive. [ laughter ] but every time i opened the robe, the belly already inflated again. so you saw them in the corner of my eye -- [ laughter ] >> seth: that makes it so hard to act. because you're doing this very intense scene. i'm gonna give birth and then seeing people blowing into tubes. that must be -- >> it doesn't -- it doesn't -- it doesn't help. >> seth: it doesn't help, no.

then your white legs and there is a camera right there. and you're sort of -- you know, laying -- actually nothing. you're just -- there's nothing so you just have to -- i didn't know what was coming out. >> seth: a great actress would have managed to make something come out. [ laughter ] if you were a really good actor you would have managed to make smoke come out of your private parts. [ laughter ] you also have one of the great lines of the show. "the night is dark and full of terrors." you have to say it a lot. is there anything you wish melisandre could say other than that? >> i would love her to say "summer is coming." >> seth: oh, to be upbeat? >> you know, to have a little bit more light. >> seth: yeah. and so that would be nice. there is not enough lightness in the show. you could be the one. >> and it's getting -- it's not getting lighter i think. >> seth: no, it gets darker. >> it's not gonna get warmer and it's not get warmer for me either i think. >> seth: this is -- also "race," i want to talk about this. because you got to play leni riefenstahl who is obviously this crazy historical figure. how do you approach that? was it interesting to play somebody like her? >> yes, because it is a very controversial character. you know on one side she is a

and a really interesting filmmaker. alive anymore. she made beautiful, beautiful films. but she was a nazi. >> seth: right. >> i mean, and that sort of, you know that dilemma is great to it's just not a film about her. so -- >> seth: right. >> you know, i didn't really examine that too much in this film. artistic side more on the -- than on the nazi part. artistic side. you're a singer as well. you've released albums. and because of "game of thrones," is it true that people look for clues in your personal life that have nothing to do with the show? >> yes. >> seth: so what was your last album called? >> seth: and so people, because the word ice -- minute. i see you on the ice, fire, you know they've thought of all sorts of links to the show. i released it four years ago. i didn't even know that i was on the show by then i think, even. [ laughter ]

anything. and i posted the other day, i posted a photo on instagram, like i was a very windy day and i was having a walk with my dad and he was in the back. this was blurry in the back with a big hood on. and it was in the middle of bleeping nowhere. >> seth: you can say it. it -- just to say it. it was in the middle of -- >> [ bleep ] nowhere! >> seth: yeah, there you go. [ laughter ] >> so good. so good. >> seth: so much better. >> so, and i posted the picture everybody was like, "that blurry person in the picture that's john snow. [ laughter ] it's john snow." and i'm like, "it's my dad. he's 63-years-old. [ laughter ] not john snow." >> seth: your dad's never even been close to john snow. >> no. >> seth: you're going to stick around and we're gonna talk some more about "game of thrones." that cool? >> sure. >> seth: all right. carice van houten, everybody. we'll be right back.

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just like you are chasing yours. thank you, rockstars. [ cheers and applause ] we're here with carice van houten. and as we were saying carice, you play melisandre, the red woman, on "game of thrones." >> that's correct. >> seth: amazing character but sort of known for her steely, cryptic demeanor. very intense. >> yeah. >> seth: okay, my wife is having a baby soon. today i couldn't help but wonder like at a baby shower. i wonder. >> i wonder. >> seth: i just wonder. >> welcome, everyone, to alexi and seth's baby shower.

kick things off is go around the room and everyone share an inspirational quote about motherhood. sue, you want to start? >> okay, i really like this one. god could not be everywhere and therefore he created mothers. >> oh! [ light laughter ] amber? >> your children will become what you are, so be what you want them to be. >> oh! that's really good! melisandre? >> clutch your child close to your breast, woman, for the night is dark and full of terrors. [ laughter ] >> i'm sorry, i don't think i know your friend, alexi. >> she's not my friend. >> seth: she's my old friend. melisandre. and this is her first baby shower. and as i was telling her earlier, these are traditionally fun affairs where people are sort of positive and upbeat. >> oh, right. >> okay.

so, do you guys know if it is going to be a boy or a girl? >> seth: we're actually waiting until the big day. >> pray that it's a son, so that the lord of light can look down upon him with favor. and if it is a girl, lock it away in a dark tower forever and hope it's not consumed by grayscale. [ laughter ] >> seth: i think we'll be happy either way. >> you should be. heaven. there's only hell. [ light laughter ] and it's the one we're living in now. [ laughter ] >> seth: you always say you don't have any female friends. and this is why. >> what did i doing wrong? >> seth: well maybe stop telling people the night is dark and full of terrors. >> but the night is dark and full of terrors. everyone knows that. >> seth: yeah, but still, just try to be like more natural and conversational. maybe tell people a fun story about yourself. >> okay, fine. >> so, alexi, are you nervous for the big day. >> yeah, a little. >> seth: i think i'm more nervous than she is. >> i tell you what. when i had shawn i had them pump me full of every drug they could

>> i gave birth once. >> oh? >> to a shadow demon. [ laughter ] i will never forget the way it emerged from my womanhood. its claw-like hands grabbed on to my ankles so that it could propel itself into the night air. [ laughter ] and then my little shadow assassin entered the camp of the false king renly baratheon and then stabbed him through the back. [ laughter ] >> seth: shadow demon? >> what? it is a fun story. >> seth: what part of that story is fun? >> the part where he killed renly. i guess you had to be there. [ laughter ] >> seth: okay, look, just try harder. okay? find common ground with them. >> fine. so, amber, are you seeing anyone? >> yeah. i've been seeing a guy for a couple months now. you? >> there is someone i work with i like. his name is john snow. but i'm not really sure he's the right guy. >> why not? >> i'm pretty sure he's dead. [ laughter ]

>> well, at least that's the way it was left. >> seth: let's do presents. [ laughter ] >> oh! >> oh, it's a baby sheep. >> it's so beautiful. [ laughter ] >> yes, that's from me. >> seth: yeah, we know. [ laughter ] >> it's valyrian steel. >> seth: why would you get us this? >> well at night your child will want to defend itself against anyone who will harm it because the night is dark and full of terrors. exactly. [ laughter ] and also, it rattles. it's a rattle sword. [ rattle ] [ laughter and applause ] >> just curious, how do you guys know one another? >> seth: we went to college together. >> where did you go? >> seth: north westeros. >> go cats! [ laughter ] >> open mind.

>> aw! >> it's so cute. >> great job with it. >> that's from both of us. [ laughter ] >> oh, no. no, it wasn't. [ light laughter ] it was from both of us. [ light laughter ] >> seth: you set her drink on fire. >> anyone could have done that. [ laughter ] >> seth: melisandre, i am so disappointed in -- hodor. [ laughter ] what are you doing? >> i want your king's blood. >> seth: i don't have any king's blood. >> is it that or is it that your fire's burn low, my king? >> seth: my fire's are just fine, thank you very much. [ light laughter ] >> we're about to play a fun games. >> seth: we'll be right out. >> can i set her on fire? >> seth: no fires. >> okay. so this next thing is fun. we did it at my shower. which was perfect. let's all go around the room and say we think seth and alexi's baby is going to grow up to be.

>> me too. >> i do not have to guess. i know what it will be. i have looked into the flames and they have shown me your child's future profession. >> seth: we don't want to know. >> dentist. >> oh, [ bleep ]! [ laughter ] >> what kind of cheese is this? >> it's gouda. [ laughter ] >> i don't get it. >> oh god! >> oh, my god. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: carice van houten, everybody. "race" opens in theatres tomorrow. we'll be right back with more "late night." sfx: cell phone vibrates. yeah? (sigh) you're okay... he's okay, he made it! jason.. what do you mean? we were very bad boys. alexa what's in the news?

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