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>> and now "bbc world news." >> pakistani authorities face questions, primary among them, how could osama bin laden have gone undetected for so long they are extremely embarrassed to not know that he was living deep with>> hello and welcome. -- he was living deep within the borders. welcome and hello. a world of news and opinions. also in this program, syrian forces continue clamping down on unrest. the red cross calls for immediate access to people injured in the violence. and the numbers keep climbing

for sony. hackers may have stolen the details of 25 million more gamer's than previously thought. it is midday in london. 7:00 a.m. in washington. 4:00 p.m. in pakistan where the y agency says it is imperative that osama bin laden was living there. there's astonishment around the world that the alkyne leader was able to hide in the city just a couple hours outside islamabad and a few hundred meters from a pakistani military academy. our reporter is near the compound. we will join her in a moment. first, let's go live to islamabad where our correspondent is just leaving a briefing of the pakistani intelligence agency. what have you learned? >> they say there were 17 or 18

people in the compound at the time of the attack. two people were taken away. osama bin laden was dead. and one other, they think it was possibly his son. four people were left dead in the compound. a son, two brothers, and one guard, they think. a number of women were left in the compound as well. if a wife and a daughter around 12 or 13 years old. in addition, eight or nine children who they don't think were the children of bin laden, but probably the children of his brother. the wife injured in the attack was unconscious and fainted. she came around and also spoke arabic, so there will communication problems. if she said that she was yemeni and that they had moved into the compound some months ago. the doctor confirmed that she had seen her father killed. that seesawed happen. -- the daughter.

they recovered some evidence from the scene. apparently the americans had missed that, but americans recover to that pretty quickly, some documents. there were four helicopters and one of them went wrong. the women and children left behind at the hands tied. they believe the americans would have taken them, at the helicopter not crashed. >> was deeply isi aware of this planned raid? >> they were looking for al- libi. they try to get him in 2003 in that compound when the building was under construction, but they missed him and got him later. they are embarrassed to not have

kept an eye on the building. the international community is looking at that. >> thank you. michele hussain now. what more can you tell lost? >> i am the short distance away from the compound. it is down the road behind me. really, the only thing that makes this area of this neighborhood remarkable is its proximity to the pakistan military academy. every officer if in the pakistan army would have begun his military career just down the road from here. that is where the cadets are stationed at the beginning of their training. i have been speaking to people around here on what they heard that night. when they first heard the sound of helicopters overhead, they assumed it was nighttime exercise is by the pakistan army. this is a military area, so they did not think anything of it. but then they saw a helicopter lands on the ground and heard

the fire fight. that's when they realized things were much more serious than they first had imagined. >> what is happening at the compound right now? >> the restrictions that had been in place around the perimeter are being relaxed somewhat. we are able to get our correspondents closer to the actual area and get a sense of what it's like around there. those living in proximity to the compound say that it was always a little different. if the children had a cricket ball inside the compound, they never got them back. they would just give them the money rather than having the calls returned -- balls returned. although there's no great sympathy of any kind for bin laden, it was expressed more than once a sense of doubt that this was really bin laden in the compound. the americans have dismissed those conspiracy theories

altogether and have said we cannot answer everything for everyone, but osama bin laden is dead and there is still a war of extremism to fight. >> thank you for that report from pakistan. america and pakistan have been close strategic partners for decades. aid was first given during the soviet war in afghanistan in 1980's and that relationship was strengthened when america moved into of chemist and once again in 2001. in 2009 a new fund was created to help the pakistan military to develop counterinsurgency capabilities. in 2009 and 2010, u.s. lawmakers approved $1.1 billion for the front. civilian aid was placed into a bill, $7.5 billion was to be given over five years at the same time. while that was a lot of money, it was not always deliver.

pakistan says less than $180 million of civilian aid was received last year. let's go to washington, d.c., to speak with the white house pteague of staff under george w. bush. do you think all that money has been money well spent in pakistan? >> clearly, i don't know enough about it to say whether it was or was not. the pakistanyou i depen is may not be living up to all of their responsibilities. congress is right to say we need a little bit more evidence in the process. >> the british prime minister david cameron spoke about not having a flaming row with pakistan. how should president obama withach relationshi pakistan? >> you have to take a look at

the relationship with pakistan in the war of terror and put it in the context of them having a nuclear weapon. we don't want pakistan to fall off the path that is the right path. we want to work very carefully with them so that they don't tip to the point where their government will fall into the control of the islamist extremists that would have access to a nuclear weapon. can we depend on them all the time? probably not. we have to use prudence and be careful. but we want them on our side and we cannot afford to have them be an enemy in this process. >> what you were working with president bush, the vice president was dick cheney. he has been speaking to the media in the past 24 hours a, suggesting a valuable information was gained in the raid from people at guantanamo bay. do you think the killing of

osama bin laden justifies what happens there? >> i don't know the source of information that led to a osama bin laden opposing the whereabouts. i suspect much of it came through good intelligence work and i believe some of it came because of the work of our intelligence agency interrogating the detainees at guantanamo and other locations around world, but i don't know the specifics. i did think that program is a very valuable program. president bush made courageous decisions to put in place some very important building blocks that allowed agencies to work together and get better intelligence so that we could make smarter decisions. i what was valuable in those interrogations, but i suspect there was always information that is helpful. i defend what president bush did and i hope that president obama keeps those building blocks in place so that we can keep america safe.

>> you talk about the importance of intelligence. it seems that it was intelligence that led americans to osama bin laden. president obama need to review the paramilitary involvement america has with afghanistan and to a lesser extent in pakistan. >> that is a very interesting challenge that president obama has. we don't see or at least i don't find great confidence in the afghan's ability to be true ally in the war on terra quite yet. we are still helping them with their military and their police forces. i think the u.s. presence there is very important, especially right now, especially given the sixth question is likely to be more dynamic because osama bin laden is gone. i think the situation in pakistan demands that we have a presence in afghanistan to keep pressure on the afghans to be an ally with us and a dependable ally in war on terror. i would not pull our troops out too quickly.

we have to assess everything going on. given that osama bin laden was very important for the world, this was a great day for america yesterday, the last 48 hours. and it was a great day for peace-loving people around world that want to fight terror. but now the world is further unsettled. we have to stand down and take a -- at what isat peopl happening around the world on whether we have to keep relationships or several relationships that may not be the most productive. this is the time for value assessment as to what is happening in afghanistan and pakistan and with the terror networks we think are reforming around the world. >> many thanks for speaking to us from washington. we will discuss the death of osama bin laden and all the issues that it raises in the world, a little later. if you would like to join me at 15 hours dmz, send your comments

and your contact details and we will do our best to get you involved. now let's look at some of the other stories making headlines about the world today. the international committee of the red cross has called on syria to grant its immediate lists safe access to people that have been injured in violent as well as those detained by authorities. the troops and tanks have occupied the southern city of daraa for more than a week, opening fire on protesters and arresting 500 people. across spokesperson says that their staff has only been able to access the entered around the capital damascus and that medics' cannot read the riot. -- cannot reach the city of dhahran. -- daraa. our correspondent is on the border with syria. what can you tell us about what is happening in that city? >> we cannot get across this

border just behind me, but sixth there is information coming out, specifically from the pope south of daraa, which is on the other side of that wall -- from the city of daraa. people in that town say there's been a house-to-house search over the last couple days. every man between age of 16 and 40 has been detained and taken away. this is an attempt by the regime to stop the kind of protests that have been taking place these days. in towns like this and other towns like homs and in central syria, people are going to the streets and demanding democratic reform, even though many of them have been killed in recent weeks. the red cross is demanding uninhibited and immediate access to all those people detained and all those people who have been

injured. >> what does the syrian government say in response to the criticism by the red cross and in response to the many criticisms it has come around the world? >> the syrian government's narrative is similar to what we heard in other countries like libya. the syrian government blames this opposition movement on insurgency on criminals and islamists. the evidence from the ground might suggest otherwise. these are normal people in towns like daraa calling for democratic widespread reform. the syrian government has given its opponents two weeks december brander-- two weeks to surrender and hand over their weapons. and has not had much of an impact. the opponents of the regime say that hundreds of thousands of people protesting want

widespread democratic reform across the country and they don't trust the regime. there's been a vicious crackdown from the government and equal determination from the opposition side to continue their protests. >> many thanks. iant's on the jordan/syrria border. in libya, crowds have attended a funeral for the youngest son of colonel khadafy in tripoli. he was killed by a nato air raid on saturday night. the libyan government says three of the leaders grandchildren also died. colonel gaddafi did not attend the funeral, is two sons were present. nato officials have denied they are targeting gaddafi in an attempt to break the stalemate between rebels and government forces. the swiss government says there's almost a billion dollars of potential illegal assets belong to freedom with african

leaders. more than $400 million in the name of colonel gaddafi and his associates. large amounts also placed by former egyptian president mubarak and ben ali. a block has been placed on any attempt to move the money. still to come, sony admits hackers may have stolen the personal information of 25 million more online gamers. several people have been arrested in the argentine capital of one osiris' after passengers set fire to trains at three different stations. -- capital of bueonos aires. >> a mob of angry commuters went through the coaches on a rampage and set them on fire. the trains are always busy, especially at rush hour. packed with people on their way to work in the capital.

but this train was literally stopped in its tracks after another train derailed closer to the city, making the track impassible. as the minutes ticked by, the anger built, and passengers began venting their frustrations. officials called the emergency services, but when the firefighters arrived, the mobs turned on them. >> when the crew arrived, the first train car was already on fire. when we started to work on the blaze, they threw rocks at us. >> having doused the flames from the outside, the firefighters went through the train, coached by coach, searching through the debris to make sure there were no embers burning. the damage is irreparable. at least six coaches on this train were completely destroyed. trains at two other stations were also set ablaze as a direct result of uncontrollable anger.

the train company was forced to suspend service is down for the capital, leaving thousands of commuters stranded. officials are not convinced all the passengers acted on impulse. they say that several security cameras were removed from the area around the derailed train that caused a furor in the first place. as the investigation gets under way, they are not ruling out the possibility of sabotage. bbc news reporting. >> this is gmt t with bbc world news. here are the headlines. pakistan is extremely embarrassed by not knowing the al qaeda founder was living deep with assignin its borders. the pakistani intelligence official says there were 17 people at the compound at the time of the attacks and the americans left with the body of

osama bin laden and one other person who was still alive. british police arrested five men close to a nuclear reprocessing plant in northwest england under counter-terrorism laws. the men were arrested on monday after officials conducted a stop to check on a vehicle near the site in cumbria. if the u.k.'s largest stockpile of plutonium. the men were housed under section 41 of the terrorism act, which allows officers to hold them 48 hours without charge. from look at the latest newcastle. what can you tell lost? >> we're getting a little bit more detail on how this happened. it was officers from the civil nuclear agency that carried out this stop. the man was stopped because there were taking photographs

and filming the site. it's mine understanding that the five men are bangladeshi. there were taken to a local police station in cumbria overnight and have been transported to manchester in the northwest of england in the morning. they have been questioned by detectives there from the counter-terrorism unit. these five men are from london. their homes in the capital are being searched at the moment. to tell you more about this area, it is six square kilometers with more than a thousand people that work there. there are patrols all the time. you might think at the moment officers are being more vigilant. questions are being raised today about whether or not security has been increased because of the events in pakistan over the past 48 hours or so. police in greater manchester said that they don't believe the

two events are linked. >> as we get more, we will bring it to you on bbc world news. let's look get some other stories making headlines around the world. french investigators have retrieved the cockpit voice recorder from an air france jet which crashed into the sea off the coast of brazil two years ago. two days ago the flight data recorder was retrieved from four kilometers below the surface. both recorders are in good condition. around 100 people missing after another river boat capsized in the democratic republic of congo. the accident happened in a river in central condo not far from the border with angola. last week 14 people died in a similar disaster in the east of the country. a tornado has ripped through new zealand's largest city of oakland, killing at least one person and injuring about 20. two suburbs were hurt and

witnesses report cards being overturned and a shopping center roof collapsing. the wind was at 200 kilometers per hour. now the latest business news. >> the japanese electronics giant sony says that hackers have stolen information from 25 million more counts. personal information including credit card details have been stolen from customers in europe. last week sunny apologized for that after nearly 80 million rs.e year a german bellwether has reported 145 million euros in profits, slightly below what analysts expected. the company has electronics outlets and more. metro is the world's fourth

largest retailer. it employs 290,000 people around the world. most of its sales came from outside its home market and plans to double the number of stores that it has in china to 100 by 2015. china's motor group will invest over $220 million in staff in return for shares of the company. on monday the swedish carmaker announced its plans to resume production within a week after its parent company spika cars secured a $45 million loan. work has been suspended for a month after suppliers refused to deliver parts because of a shortfall in a statement. let's look at the market's. american markets will be open in about an hour's time. not much improvement yesterday. it was a sharp rise after

announcing the death of osama bin laden, but then it lost ground by the end of the day, but not by much. european markets of the moment are up, but not very sharply. there's been profit taking from yesterday, apparently. >> thank you, jeremy. dementia affects a great number of people in older age. i'm sure you know people affected by this. if you are even a little overweight at middle age, you could be greatly increasing the risk of suffering from dementia in later life. between obesity and dimension has long been suspected, but carrying just a few extra pounds hurts your brain as you grow older. >> there's evidence that people obese in their 30's, 40's, and 50's, far more likely to develop dementia in later life. simply being overweight could

lead to dementia, according to this new study. information about their weight and height three decades earlier was gathered peridots who had been overweight in midlife were 70% more likely to develop dementia later on. the increase for those attacks have been obese was almost 300%. >> its ads to an already extensive amount of evidence suggesting that if people are overweight in midlife, it leads to a significant increase in demand in later life and it's a warning sign that people need to live healthy. if people live healthy and look after their weight and exercise, that can reduce their risk of developing dementia. >> the authors of the new study say the impact of their findings could be far-reaching. more than 1.5 billion overweight adults are in the world. bbc news. >> we have much more on the death of osama bin laden on our web site, including a look at what happened to the body of the al qaeda leader.

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