>> how much are those in the west to blame for the conditions that cause the tragedy in bangladesh? we talk about the price of economic progress. >> if you can make their pay 50 cents an hour, whole dramatic change. it does not add much cost to the product. >> and food costs in europe. hello. four young men were sentenced last week for computer hacking. in the summer of 2011, they were all linked to a small group of hackers that held the on line in the real world enthralled as they went on a rampage.

the internet for laughs and caused chaos for the media, computer security companies, the police, the cia, the fbi, and in the u.k., the serious organized crime unit. eventually, they were caught. their main pr man about the tax, why they did it, and their online world. >> greetings, citizens of the online world. >> the summer of 2011 and the world is getting to grips with the rise of hacktivists. >> the revolution has begun. we are anonymous. we are legion. we do not forgive. we do not forget. >> politically motivated hackers in the form of a leaderless group called anonymous. then, the joking splinter group more chaotic than anonymous and more concerned with hacking for laughs.

in the real world, the members never met. they've lived continents apart. this small group of individuals, most of whom have now been arrested lived out their lives on line in constant communication. that up the colorful characters as the crash web site -- websites and published the data they found. they said they wanted the information they found to be free. half a dozen or so central characters, each with their own role and online name appeared head of comes and unlikely pr man was jake davis. the woody ensure topiary. this is the first time he has agreed to a television interview. >> i think topiary is a lot more

competent than i am, suddenly, but i am speaking of myself truthfully to you in a real-life environment rather than behind the internet. >> at the time, jake was 17 and living on the remote shetland island. his stepfather had died a few years earlier, and his mother and brother had moved to england. jake was alone. rejected by the asset web. >> you cannot touch the internet, you cannot feel it, you can smell it or taste or a sense it. it is the world kind of the board of and the. that was my world. it was my cynical world, and i became a very cynical person. .> targets were an eclectic mix members of the group have been indicted in the u.s. for allegedly stealing and publishing a database containing details of 70,000 potential

contestants of the "x factor." in the u.k., some have pleaded guilty to having the website of the "sun" newspaper and replacing its front page with a phony story. lulzsec grabbed the attention of the world's media with the taunting, light-hearted tone of the publicity around their attacks. taking a shot at big companies in amongstng, but the target were several law- enforcement agencies. on their 20 feet, they boasted about bringing down a website linked to the fbi. they crashed the c.i.a.'s homesite and sought to embarrass those whose job it is to investigate cyber crime, the uk [applause]

series organized crime agency, by forcing their website offline. >> hello? >> yes, hello. be furtherhere would embarrassment for law enforcement with the recording and publishing in the name of anonymous of a packed conference call between scotland yard and scenei aras the cyber crime discuss pursuit of lulzsec members. >> we set back further arrests until we know what is happening. >> attacking the police was a step too far, according to a man who spent the last 20 years unpicking computer viruses and tracking down hackers. >> it is quite clear that the law enforcement in the united states and here in europe took lulzsec personally, and for a reason -- because they were recently going after law enforcement targets. they were recording their phone

calls between europe and usa. >> jake pleaded guilty to a which helated soca, says is based on a two-line exchange. >> i type tens of thousands of lines, and these two lines that i wrote seconds apart -- these are worth a separate charge punishable by up to 10 years in prison. am i suppose it does not matter if it is to be so 10 months. it is what it says. >> i completely agree. i could have said not to go after them, but i said to go after them. >> do you regret getting involved with the situation? >> i regret 95% of the things that have been tied to the incident, especially those two or three lines of "let's go after these people. why not? it could not hurt." obviously, it did hurt. >> tonight, inside the almost

impenetrable world of a hacker. >> "news night" spoke to topiary in an online chat room. he came across as his usual confident self. in reality, he told us he was in turmoil and describes that day as a turning point. that is because earlier on that friday in the u.s., lulzsec members had attacked the arizona state police in protest of tough new laws against immigration. they release private intelligence material, names, addresses, and phone numbers of offices -- officers and the content of e-mail. >> we thought this attack had gone way too far. there was no point to this thing. it is just harming police officer. this does not entertain anyone or help anyone anywhere. >> the group was falling apart. unbeknownst to the world, the fbi had a new weapon. just prior to the amazon had, one of the founders had been arrested. then, for some 10 months, he

turned informant. and we know who you are and we know where you live ♪ >> jake was arrested in july 2011. his last week's fed "you cannot arrest an idea -- his last tweets read, "you cannot rest idea." >> you must have forseen there would be consequences. >> at the time, i was 17 or 18 years old, quite mentally unstable and in a very bad place. at times, i could see through and see of internet that there would be consequences, but it was more a case of who cares if there is a consequence? i want to live in a moment and enjoy this glimmer of attention. >> experts have little doubt that lulzsec will be remembered.

they achieved a rare thing -- notoriety online and in the real world. in the brief time they existed, what they call 50 days of lulz. but the outcome has not be in -- been a happy one for any of the members. one member could face up to 120 years behind bars. other key members including j. davis have been indicted in the u.s. so far, there's been no request for extradition. anyone committing a crime, if it is a physical crime or a crime on the internet, potentially a global -- using global assistance or infrastructure abroad, using proxies' to hide their identity -- that will be investigated. they will be arrested, and they will be prosecuted. >> when you look at groups like anonymous or lulzsec, this is

not our main enemy. yes, they broke the law. yes, they should be punished, but i am much more worried about organized criminal gangs from russia, from ukraine, from romania, from china, from brazil, gangs which are actually stealing money, gangs which are actually making millions with their attacks. >> do you have a message for people who might look at what you have done and in some way copycat that situation? >> i hope there have not been copycats. if you have that passion to do something and you have nothing else to do, try to find something beyond the front door rather than get