states, impacting some 19,000 children. this comes on top of the 57,000 children removed from head start this fall because of budget cuts under the sequester. in a statement, the head of the national head start association said -- if the shutdown continues for another week, the department of agriculture will stop funding the nutrition program 89 million women and children. the women, infants, and children program helps pregnant women and new mothers with the purchase of healthy food. for every with the shutdown continues, around 10 child cancer patients will be denied critical trials due to cutbacks at the national institutes of health. the shutdown has also led to the closure of federal sites nationwide. national landmarks including the

statue of liberty and lincoln memorial have been shattered. on tuesday, group of overly veterans divide the newly erected barricades to enter the national world war ii memorial on their own. in what critics called republic -- publicity stunt by republicans responsible for the shutdown, the veteran toro company by group of house lawmakers. a key facet of president obama's health care a whit live nationwide. for the first time americans were able to begin purchasing health insurance from federal and state exchanges. nearly 3 million people visited the federal website.gov, while new york state site claimed it had over 10 lien hits. the heavy traffic fueled major glitches with users facing long wait times and her messages preventing access. president obama said despite an initial road bumps, obamacare is here to stay. >> for them and millions like them, this is a historic day for good reason.

it is been a long time coming. but today and americans who have been forced to go without insurance can now visit health .are.gov that starts today. >> as both obamacare enrollment and the government shutdown began, the treasury department officially notified congress the u.s. faces in october 17 deadline to extend the debt ceiling. the federal government will run out of money to pay off its debt and less lawmakers raise the nation's borrowing limit. republicans have also threatened to push for an obamacare repeal in the debt ceiling debate. in a bid to focus on the congressional impasse, president obama has canceled stops in malaysia and the philippines as part of his upcoming trip to asia. beenng prisoner has released in louisiana after serving nearly 42 years in solitary confinement, longer than any other prisoner in the u.s. herman wallace and two others, known as the angola 3, were placed in solitary confinement in 1972 following their

conviction for murdering a prison guard. the angola 3 under supporters say they were framed for their political activism as members of one of the first prison chapters of the black panther party. and his prize development, herman wallace was released from prison tuesday after a federal judge overturned his conviction saying he did not receive a fair trial. herman wallace is near death from advanced liver cancer. he was taken directly to new orleans hospital were supporters greeted his arrival. we will have more on herman wallace's release and case after the headlines. we will be joined by a friend who is at his bedside as well as his lawyer and another member of the angola 3, robert king, who was released years ago. finally, former water device been found guilty of immigration fraud for concealing his role in the 1982 massacre. on tuesday, a federal judge convicted jorge vinicio sosa orantes for lying about his involvement in the killings of

250 civilians and the guatemalan hamlet of dos erres. as a lieutenant in guatemala such worries kaibiles special forces, sosa is said to have overseen the extermination of villagers, reportedly ordering his unit to throw babies down a well. he faces 10 years in prison, the revocation of his u.s. citizenship, and possibly deportation to guatemala. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with nermeen shaikh. >> welcome to all our listeners and viewers from around the country and around the world. we begin today's show with news in the case democracy now! has been following closely. herman wallace, a member of the so-called angola 3, has been released from prison after being held for nearly 42 years in solitary confinement. he was taken directly to the hospital where he now lays dying of advanced stage liver cancer. wallace and two others were in prison for armed robbery, then accused in 1972 of murdering a prison guard at the louisiana

state penitentiary, known as angola. the men say they were framed because of their political activism as members of one of the first prison chapters of the black panther party. the dramatic series of events on tuesday began one federal judge brian a jackson of the middle district court of louisiana ordered wallace's release and overturn his conviction. jacksonrder, judge called on the state to "immediately release mr. wallace from custody" due to a new properly chosen grand jury that excluded women jurors in violation of the 14th amendment. the state appealed the ruling, but judge jackson quickly responded with another order that such failure to release mr. wallace from custody will " result in a judgment of contempt." >> as the legal battle played out, herman wallace's lawyers sent in an valance to wait outside the gates of the prison to pick him up. and 7:30 p.m. central time tuesday night, herman wallace, who is 71 years old, was met by

members of his legal team at the gate and let the prison in an ambulance that took him to new orleans. he was taken directly to a hospital were supporters were waiting to greet him. [cheers] >> for more we're joined by one of the people who met herman wallace to deliver the news he would be released -- fellow angola 3 member, robert king. until tuesday night, king was the only freak member of the angola 3. he spent 29 years in solitary confinement for murder he did not commit. he was released in 2001 after his conviction was overturned. the third member of the angola 3, albert woodfox, remains in prison at the david wade correctional center in homer, louisiana. in recent months, he says he has been subjected to strip searches and a he searches as often as six times a day. robert king joins us from

austin, just back from visiting wallace. he was the one who delivered the news to herman wallace that his conviction have been overturned. we're joined by herman wallace's defense attorney george kendall. first, we go directly to the new orleans hospital or herman wallace lies. we are joined by jackie summell some of the artist behind "herman's house," who joined us on monday in studio in new orleans when democracy now! was broadcasting from there, broadcasting about the case of herman wallace, then still in prison. now she joins us by phone at the bedside of herman wallace from the lsu medical center where herman wallace is now. jackie, can you talk about herman's condition at this point? >> good morning, amy. herman has taken a turn for the worst at about 3:00 in the morning. i got a phone call from one of the other supporters who said, you should come in.

the doctors aren't sure if his kidneys are also failing as well as his liver. so i have been with them since 3:00. a word, like speak if you move him around, he will yell, indicate he is uncomfortable, but he doesn't seem to be cognizant in any other way. it is a really intense time right now. myself and a few other long-term supporters and his sister are at + with them. >> jackie, did he understand yesterday at the prison that he was being released? george.ould have to ask lastd about 100 supporters night cheering him on, welcoming him home with banners and signs,

chanting "power to the people," and he was very cognizant then. this turn for the worse happen at about 3:00 this morning, as i said. >> let's turn to robert king, another member of the angola 3. he is free after 29 years. albert woodfox remains in prison. as we said, herman wallace, in a complete surprise but of a federal judge, had his conviction overturned yesterday with the demand for his immediate release, which happened last night. robert king, you are in prison with herman wallace and the visiting him to say your final goodbye as he lay dying of liver cancer. you delivered the news to him about the overturning of his conviction. how did herman respond? >> inc. you, amy. -- thank you, amy. straight to the point, yes, when we brought the news to herman

that he was being released, we had to do it in bits and pieces. we have learned that herman's case had been overturned. we were a bit surprised, but we had good news. him, he is in pretty bad shape. his body is failing him. but i was there not so much to witness his death, but as you said, to try to encourage him to hold on and try to get him to recognize his supporters, lawyers were on board, trying to get him released from prison. this, weeard about told him. i think we managed to penetrate and get to him the point that he

would probably be released or could be released. i remember the lawyer on the way out telling herman to hold on. his words were the best words of the day, he said, i will hold on. i will hold on. i'm going to hold on. it was pretty touching. i do feel he will hold on, despite the fact his body has failed and is failing him. i still believe in miracles. can perform miracles. people can perform miracles. doctors among us can perform your goals to do a situation such as this, and hopefully, this is one of those times. hopefully, it is not too late. in any case, whatever happens were transpires, herman will know one thing.

he understood this and understands that there are many people who really love him and support him. they are by his side. he feels he has contributed in some way to the struggle, regardless of what happens. if you survives, he will continue to struggle. if not, there are legions of supporters around the world that are on board to continue the struggle. it is not just a fight to have him released from prison, but to have his conviction overturned. woodfox is still on board. he is suffering just as much as herman. longestnow be the serving prisoner in solitary confinement. we have to do with him. we have to continue with all of the rest of the stuff that is going on. we have to think about him as

well. >> robert, he was with you yesterday come albert woodfox. this is an unusual, disabilities, gathering. you would never have been allowed to visit herman wallace, and of course, albert woodfox wouldn't, either, as he remains in prison, but it was the final goodbye. what was albert woodfox's words for herman wallace in a prison cell in the prison where you were with him in the hospital there? >> alberts last word was, herman, we love you, and you're going to get out of here today. we're trying to get you out. the lawyers will have you out today. he kissed him on the four head. prior to that time, he had been anduraging him to hold on he will be free and that people were working for him and he won't be forgotten. >> was he shackled? >> albert woodfox was very much

shackled and handcuffed. on,ad the traditional belt the chain with the locks and so forth and so on. it was difficult for him. he was having problems. we had to help him because he could not hold the tray in which the food that held the food. >> george kendall, how did this happen? tragedies inmany this case. one of them is the state judiciary, this trial was very unfair and they knew about refused to grant a new trial decades ago. when judge jackson finally took a look at the case, i think he concluded pretty quickly this is unfair and i have to overturn it. to his great read it, you did so. herman wrote to the judge after he learned he was diagnosed with terminal liver cancer and said, receive for 40 years to

a new trial. please, don't let me die before i hear from you. we filed a bill motion. judges have the power to great -- grant bail. judge said, i won't grant bail now, but i will decide this case without delay. of course, we would have liked to have had and decided quicker, but he made it clear of two things, the first trial was unfair and violated the constitution and mr. wallace's rights and that he needed to be released. it took state officials hours, unfortunately, to comply with judge jackson. he had order a second order at 6:00 p.m. and i think was only because the presented the judge jackson was not playing and we had an ambulance at the gate with quark the warden had gone out to dinner and said he would not be returning to release him? >> the warden said he was not going to release them. the judge then issued a second order at 6:00 p.m. that said, i

meant what i said. used to be released immediately. >> i want to read from u.s. district judge brian jackson's order that led to herman wallace's released tuesday. he wrote -- he added -- george kendall, can you talk about why days it was this particular aspect of the trial that the judge chose to emphasize, the absence of women from the grand jury? >> there were several very strong claims and i think this was so straightforward and clear that the law required him to grant haiti's relief. you took this issue.

if you read the opinion that herman had determinedly on his own trying to litigate this issue before the louisiana state court for decades, i mean, cited new cases when they came down, put the record fax and an there were two or three judges in the state process that said, you know, we need to grant relief in this case, but they never had the majority. there wereecret profound problems with this case, but it is tragic it took four decades for him to get a new trial. >> what does this mean for albert woodfox? >> albert three times as had his case overturned. last year edge pretty -- judge his conviction. >> were they tried together? >> no. on a discrimination, racial discrimination and the grand jury composition in his case. his case is now up on the state's appeal to the fifth

circuit court of appeals. iswhat is very interesting in this case, the widow of the prison guard who was murdered in 1972, teenie verret, she was just 17 at the time that her husband for and miller was stabbed to death, this is what she had to say in the documentary "in the land of the free." >> there is not a year that goes by that i don't have to relive this. it just keeps going and going. mean, if they i did not do this -- and i believe they didn't -- they have been living a nightmare for 36 years. , athat was teenie verret widow of the prison guard who was murdered. let's be clear, george kendall, albert woodfox and herman wallace went to jail for

robbery. it was in jail that -- in prison that they were accused of murder and for which they have served longer on death row -- on solitary confinement, consecutively -- i said death row, but for a lot of that time, they are actually on the row. than any prisoner in u.s. history. found there's no prisoners who have been locked up for 40 years in a cell 23 hours a day. in some states, they did not get out at all, and other times for 15 minutes. he of separate lawsuit that will go in june that seeks an injunction for damages for all the time they have been housed in solitary confinement. >> what about the litigation the challenges mr. herman wallace is unconstitutional confinement? that is likely to continue? >> that is a lawsuit mr. king is involved in the mr. woodfox.

it involves violations of the cruel and inhuman punishment clause. to go to trialt in baton rouge in june of next year. i also want to mention albert woodfox. you said he recently has been subjected to anal searches. every time he leaves his cell, even if it is just to take a shower, 30 years ago albert on his own father lawsuit and won a lawsuit that prohibited the department of corrections from engaging in those kinds of searches. back to the attention of the corrections department when they started doing it again and they said, we're going to continue to do it. we found yesterday in federal court a lawsuit seeking an injunction barring the department of corrections of using that kind of search on mr. woodfox and others in that cell block. >> the judge to issue the order

that he should not be strip- searched like this, anal cavity, oral cavity strip-searched, died. >> correct. >> and right after they were resumed. >> correct. >> doesn't a judges word carry on beyond his life? >> we can be department of corrections will find out that it does. we are optimistic that judge gray is going to tell the apartment of corrections, you cannot do this, stop. >> what basis were these three subjected to such extraordinary -- extraordinarily punitive measures? in 1972were perceived as black militants. at the time the investigation into the tragedy of brent miller's death was -- went off the rails by racist louisiana prison officials re-- >> and his own widow doesn't

believe these allegations. >> whoever committed the crime and left a bloody fingerprint and it is not that of herman wallace for albert woodfox or anyone charged with it. >> robert king wasn't even in prison at the time. >> these men over the years, despite been locked up, have inped numerous other inmates many ways. i have another client at that institution that got there at the age of 17 and would never have survived. it was the bloodiest prison in america at that time. he to this day says i never would have survived angola in the 1970s, but for the wise counsel and love are received from herman wallace and albert woodfox. >> robert king, could you talk about that? the philosophy of the black panther chapter in the prison where you were, the preaching against the violence and the racists? >> yes. the philosophy was and the idea was to bring some type of consciousness to the prisoner.

as george pointed out, angola was consider the bloodiest prison in the nation. plantations, slave -- work every day, men were working and going into the fields without boots or raincoats, without being fed adequately. albert and herman and other members of the black panther party decided to bring this knowledge to prisoners that they still have rights, they're human beings. this was a teaching of the black panther party. we were protected by due process . we adhere to that. the prison try to discourage us

and impose punitive measures upon us for doing this, but we continued to do so. successful. herman and albert were very, very successful along with other people who also organized with them. as a result, they have paid dearly for it because people, as george pointed out, during that , there were numerous rapes going on there were being allowed by the prison officials. the prison.s ran they were the backbone of security in prison. they sold younger prisoners to older inmates for sexual purposes and so forth. ofs is something that a lot the black panther party's were not homophobic, but to be in a situation where your home of -- forced into this type of activity. even if we had not been members

of the black panther party, and we still would have frowned upon is because it is a dehumanizing practice. a dehumanizing environment. we felt the need. when i got to prison and joined albert and herman, we the same ideology. i felt the need to struggle. i join them. i join their efforts to kind of combat some of the stuff that was going on. as a result, like i said, we were successful. as a result, herman and albert have paid dearly for it, more than 40 years in solitary confinement, convicted for a crime that for the most part is questionable, which all the evidence has been undermined. not just factual innocence exists, but actual innocence also exists.

there are actual innocence as george pointed out, there was a bloody fingerprint that was perhaps left by the person who committed the crime that did not match any of the people who were subsequently charged. nevertheless, they were charged with this. they had paid dearly. i think the state recognized this -- the state refused to recognize it openly, but i think in time, they will recognize it. , iporters around the world think there will will continue to keep this out into the public. this case and cases like this out in the public. it won't be forgotten. >> let's go to a clip of herman wallace's own words describing the impact of solitary confinement on his body. this is from the film "herman's house."

>> i want to go to another clip from the end of the film, herman wallace describing a dream he had. listen carefully.

>> that is from the film "herman's house," the story of jackie summell who is now at herman wallace's side as he lays dying in a new orleans hospital, just brought back -- released years inon after 42 solitary confinement. the film was about how jackie summell has worked with herman to imagine a house he could be released to after being in a six by nine foot cell for so many decades. we are wrapping up now and moving onto another case of men in prison, this in egypt. as we get word from the hospital about herman's condition for just-released hours ago, is not the end of his case or albert woodfox's? is beforewoodfox case

the fifth circuit court of appeals and was also awarded a new trial last year. we are hoping that court will sustain that order so he will be indicted -- entitled to a new trial. >> jackie summell, your final words as you heard herman talking about his dream of being released, that dream, very bittersweet, has been realized as he fights for his life right now outside the prison walls. >> i last words would be to remind people this is a tremendous victory and amerco that herman wallace will drive -- die a free man. 42 years of maintaining his innocence in solitary confinement. his last few breaths are as a free man. we really want -- >> jackie summell, thank you for being with us at the bedside of herman wallace at lsu medical hospital.

you can go to democracynow.org to see our many conversations with robert king. forge kendall, the attorney herman wallace. when we come back, we go to egypt and canada dear about two men who were in prison. stay with us. ♪ [music break]

>> that is music from the film "herman's house." this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report.

i'm amy goodman with nermeen shaikh. we turn now to egypt where a pair of canadians had been jailed for over a month and a half without charge. john greyson, and the claim toronto film maker, and tarek inbani, a dr., were arrested cairo on august 16. they were slated to visit gaza where greyson was to film loubani as he trained emergency room doctors. in a statement smuggled out of their prison cell, greyson and loubani say they were arrested after rushing to the scene of a mass shooting by state forces of supporters of ousted president mohamed morsi. race and says he began filming math whilengs after loubani treated some of the injured. >> they say -- they have since been held in cockroach infested jail cells with as many as 30 six other people. confirmeduthorities

their imprisonment has been extended another 45 days, still without charge. greyson and loubani had been on hunger strike for the past two weeks. thee presented all documents. they were going to the hospital coulda so that tarek offer assistance and for john amick the film. we provided the documents that prove this and that they were there by pure coincidence. despite that, they're prisma continues for a month and a half. we carried out all the legal processes and provided documents and presented a complaint to the public prosecutor lawyer and appealed the extension of imprisonment but all these things have been rejected without any solution offered. >> that was attorney marwa farouk. the lead supporter of the men said the men were arrested after witnessing a massacre. they saw 50 people

killed before they lost count. they wereckers yelled canadian as they were beating them and kicking them. they were put in a hot box. they were shaved bald and then eventually they ended up in his prison cell with 38 other prisoners. >> we are joined now by three guests. sicilia greyson is the sister of canadian film maker john greyson, one of the detained men. us, theein is also with well-known canadian journalist and author of the book "the shock doctrine." to recently signed an open letter calling for the men's release. we will be joined by sharif abdel kouddous in egypt. first, can you talk about what you know about john and tarek right now? well, we know they were visited last thursday by consular staff and they were reported to be in good health --

good health at that point. today is day 47 of their detainment and we're hoping the consular staff and the doctor will be able to visit them today just to check out their health. as you mentioned, they've been on a hunger strike for over two weeks now. we are concerned to get a report on -- an update on their condition. >> have you or anyone in your family been dryclean touch with your brother john greyson? -- wew, there has been no have had no phone contact for direct contact with john or tarek during this time. they're able to speak with our lawyers and consular staff when they visit, but we've only been able to send messages to them through our lawyers and consular staff. there is no other way of communicating with them. they have essentially been cut off from the outside world for 47 days. >> can you tell us about john and tarek? you know both of them.

of course, your brother is john greyson. >> absolutely. mention, is an award-winning film maker and a professor of film in toronto. known around the world for his work in film and in civil rights activism. tarek is an emergency room physician, an assistant professor of medicine at university in canada and london, ontario. he is also a member of the canadian doctors for refugee care. he's very adjusted in working with individuals in conflict zones, which is why he was doing this work in gaza where he trains doctors and nurses and emergency critical care procedures at the hospital. >> naomi klein, you like john and tarek and cecilia r from canada. what is your government, the canadian government, the government of stephen harper, doing to free these men? >> all we know is what they're saying publicly.

i think there are different levels of government. cecilia and talk more about the dealings with the consular staff. i think there've been huge amount to support john and tarek imprisoned to try to make their lives as comfortable as possible. inhink there are individuals the canadian government who really care passionately about this case in a been working very hard for but there have been concerns, and has been expressed openly, and the canadian press and online that at the highest levels, certainly at the level of the prime minister, there has not been enough pressure. as far as we know, our prime minister has yet to call his egyptian counterpart personally and demand the men's release. he waited until last sunday to issue a statement calling for the release publicly, but that was a statement made to the canadian media. whether he has relayed that explained their

consequences, real consequences to the egyptian government, is another matter entirely. the other thing is, in stephen harper statement, he left himself and very unsettling loophole where he keeps saying in the absence of charges, these men should be freed. any charges that may be laid against them, and we have seen this outrageous grab bag list that is being slung at understandpeople, i from everything from murder to attacking the police station, it is a fishing expedition, absurd. we know these men were doing their jobs as human italians. tarek was responding to calls for emergency medical aid. as an emergency doctor, that is his duty. and john as a film maker, and i should say he's a dear friend of mine and know him well and known him for many, many years, he was doing what i hope i would have done in that situation, which is

grab the camera and get out there to document history. they were not in cairo because of the demonstrations. they were just passing through, as he said. amy, you know as a journalist, when history is unfolding and people are dying in the streets, we have a duty to bear witness. that is what john was doing. we have heard our government say these men are innocent, they were doing their jobs, they must be released right now. that is what we're waiting for. we're waiting here that clear, unequivocal statement from our prime minister and foreign minister. we're also waiting to hear that if they continue to be ignored in -- and disregarded by the egyptian government, which has been what has been happening so far, then it will be role consequences. we heard just for the first time yesterday from our foreign minister that there will be consequences. he didn't outline what kind of consequences. we would like to hear those consequences outlined.

our foreign minister and our prime minister have more power than just issuing statements and making phone calls. there's a huge amount of trade back and forth between canada and egypt. there are a lot of canadian companies that are clamoring to get into egypt right now. to engage in mineral extraction. your was a little miniconference since john and tarek at imprisonment canadian companies are talking about what a great opportunity this moment is for them. be of these companies would getting support from the canadian export development corporation, which is the equivalent of our import/export bank. the harper government could be saying to the egyptian government, we will pull our support for foreign investment. that is a real threat that matters because egypt's economy is enrolled trouble right now. i think if egyptians saw these human rights violations were costing them economic stability, that would get their attention

and there will be consequences for this regime at home. that is the kind of pressure we want to see. if we don't see it, i think what we will start seeing is grassroots economic pressure from of boycotts of major thetian corporations, and tourism sector, which is a very important part of the egyptian economy. if this can happen to two canadians passing through cairo just performing their duty, they could end up in prison without charges now for 47 days, i don't know about you, but i'm not in any rush to travel to egypt. the egyptian government needs to hear that message loud and clear, that there are our economic consequences and people will not be visiting the parents until john and tarek are out of prison. >> when we come back from break, we will continue with cecilia greyson, speaking to us from halifax, sister of john greyson, and naomi klein, friend of john greyson. did we go to cairo to stick with sharif abdel kouddous who also following this case.

democracy now! correspondent, writer for "the nation." we will be back in a moment. ♪ [music break]

>> this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with nermeen shaikh. we are talking about a pair of canadians who have been jailed for over a month and a half without charge, john greyson and tarek loubani, arrested in cairo, slated to visit gaza where greyson was going to film dr. loubani as he trained emergency room doctors.

we want to turn right now to the toronto international film festival in 2012, which featured a retrospective of john greyson's work. you spoke with the daily extra before the festival. >> the work has an odd about a and autobiographer will line. it came out of what was happening on the streets that it was pretty involved in. a newtly, i'm involved in feature and shorts coming out of the activism. withinrticular struggle the gay community around -- our canadian trinity has achieved so much. it is night and day with 1984 with the first video i made.

the first video being shown, versus where we are today, and so much of activism i think by necessity has to look globally, has to look at the global responsibilities. we have achieved a lot on the ground here, whether it is in town or nationally, but we have that responsibility to also look globally and see what we can conversation this in the world. >> that was john greyson laster at the film festival. sharif abdel kouddous is standing by in cairo, egypt. can you explain the case, why ande two men, tarek loubani john greyson, have been arrested and held for over a month without charge in egypt? >> if anyone can guess why they're still being held, i was there that day on august 16 that came just two days after some very brutal dispersal of the two

domain citizens doesn't port mom men shows oftwo signs for support for morsi. dayorters had called for a of rage in protest of the crackdown. it quickly descended into some of the fiercest clashes we have seen since the beginning of the revolution. citizens were firing on each other with live ammunition, helicopters flying overhead, people were using firebombs and rocks. morsi supporters at one point were trapped on a bridge and were forced to jump off the bridge to avoid bullets. people landing on the floor and collapsing. a very violent and chaotic scene. this is the scene john and tarek found themselves in. as they said in her letter, someone yelled out for a doc or and tarek went into action and

started treating people. john began to film to bear witness. they got swept up with more than 600 other people that day who got arrested as well. all of the 600 egyptians, nearly all of them, are still in prison like john and tarek. they face a litany of charges come the same laundry list of charges that include murder and arson and attacking a police station that john and tarek do. this is part of a superior -- severe crackdown that is happening. as canadians, what is surprising, they have not been spared the abuses of the egyptian government which is usually saved for egyptian citizens. it is anybody's guess as to why they're still being held. >> dr. loubani was actually treating people there and afterwards, they actually went up to the military to ask directions back to their hotel

and it was there at the checkpoint they arrested them? yeah, he said in the letter that he helped treat someone did people and then they went to go -- they got some ice cream and were looking for something deemed -- something to eat. they walked up to a checkpoint. there were many around the area. a lot of military and police. that is when they were arrested, that he said they were taken into the police station and beaten in their heads were shaved and had her picture taken next to a "syrian terrorist." they were then thrown into a cell with 36 other people in a very small, cramped area. this is the treatment of the many ordinary egyptians received from what is a very abusive security state. they were caught up in it. for reasons that are inexplicable, they continue to be held. this latest extension of their detention pending investigation is for 45 days.

that is the maximum the prosecutors are allowed to extend detention. they have been held in three successive 15 day periods. the prosecutor then get the worst possible decision to extended by 45 days, delaying any kind of hearing or possibility of their release until mid-november. >> i want to go back to cecilia greyson, john greyson sister. can you explain how the canadian government has been talking to you and your family to assist in your brother's release? certainly, the ministry of foreign affairs in canada has been very concerned about this case from the beginning. maintain -- the consular staff maintains contact with members of both families. they have expressed great concern about this and certainly

the staff have worked tirelessly to facilitate visits with them in cairo, to assist our lawyers in whatever way they can in cairo, and to keep the families informed. the foreign minister john baird has issued statements and met with egyptian foreign minister and expressed concern around this case. prime minister harper also expressed concern about the case. we have assurances they have been working very diligently but we still haven't had results, unfortunately. we are encouraging the canadian government to keep up this pressure and to make this pressure as overt as possible in terms of talking to their egyptian counterparts, in terms of premature harper talk into the interim prime minister in egypt and is continuing to keep up the pressure because this has continued for 47 days now with an extension going into another 45 days or 44 days, 43 days now.

the point now saying this has already gone on too long. john and tarek have been mistreated at the time of their arrest, you know, saddled with many accusations that are absolutely ludicrous, held without charges. for the first 30 days, they were in a cell with 38 other individuals. now they have 600 individuals will stop the entire time they been sitting on concrete. we have had no phone calls during this entire time. it is been very difficult circumstances for john and tarek and we are encouraging the canadian government to be as diligent as possible and putting pressure on egypt to release john and tarek immediately. >> now mclean, what is the interest of the canadian government? what is the relationship between the morsi government and the canadian government and now the military government in power? >> i think it is no secret that the canadian government -- we

often say it is keeping the george w. bush stream a live in lots of ways, whether it is climate change or just unquestioning support for israel. canada -- the canadian government under stephen harper has been extremely hostile to the united nations. our status on the world stage has plummeted. art of what is going on, canadians are wondering whether we are expressing some of the ourback from the way which government has behaved on the world stage. particular, unquestioning support for israel, whether that has just led to the government losing status in the region. because we clearly don't have the influence we thought we had. there are a couple of things that flow from that. if first thing we want is the canadian government doesn't have the power to do it on its own, we hope they will engage

their allies, the state department or foreign office in gulf states, to push for their release. our greater concern is that they're just not pushing hard enough because they really do want the stability this government represents in the region. >> climbed the cecilia greyson, sharif abdel kouddous, thank you for being with us. greyson is the sister of john greyson. sharif abdel kouddous speaking to us from cairo, egypt. democracy now! is looking for feedback from people who appreciate the closed captioning. e-mail your comments to outreach@democracynow.org or mail them to demoacy now! p.o. box 693 new york, new york 10013. [captioning made possible by democracy now!]

tavis: good evening. from los angeles, i am tavis conversationt a with gloria stephan about her new cd, entitled "the standards ." it features many vintage tunes from the great american songbook

as well as some latin counterparts. gloria stephan, coming up, right now. >> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. >> gloria stephan has

been making hit records inter debut with the miami sound machine back in 1995. she is one of the first to cross over to bring latin music to the mainstream, on her latest cd shetled "the standards," sings in english, spanish, portuguese, and italian. let's take a look at gloria singing the great gershwin song, "how long has this been going on." ♪ how long has this been going on on long has this been going

a long, how long, how long has this been going on ♪ i love him. >> i love him. he is a sweetie. tavis: i didn't believe this, and i read this, i did not realize that you're very first carson, youn actually sang a standard. >> i did, "good morning heartache." conductedg arranged, am a did everything on the record. he asked me to sit in with him and i told him that was one of my favorite tunes. i did it on carson back in the day.

there was a pnr right there where i was sitting, and i got the whole idea for the record edges pulled me in. tavis: what was happening in your world that made "good morning heartache" what you sang on your first carson appearance although singers, they were songs i listen to, records that my mom played for me in that later i bought. they wanted us to do two songs. they were a brand-new band, hadn't even hit the top 10 yet. they said we want you to do a second song, but we don't want to lose the audience, just in case. i said my piano player and i can do "good morning heartache." people can see that i do sing ballads as well, that we love serious