100,000 people and displaced another 2 million people. betweenprime minister netanyahu is continuing a public campaign to cast doubt on diplomatic engagement with iran. netanyahu accused the new iranian prime minister rouhani of deceiving the world about iran's nuclear program. he also renewed a threat to launch military strikes. he doesn't sound like ahmadinejad, but when it comes to iran's nuclear weapons program, the only difference between them is this. worldnejad was a wolf and -- wolf's clothing. rouhani is a wolf in sheep's clothing. a wolf who thinks he can whole -- the wool over the eyes of the international community. israel will not allow iran to get nuclear weapons. if israel is forced to stand alone, israel will stand alone.

yet in standing alone, israel will know that we will be defending many, many others. 's israel's prime minister comments come days after a phone call between president obama and the iranian president rhani, the highest level u.s.-iran contact in decades. the death toll from a more than in sudan hasckdown reportedly topped 170. the international federation for human rights says hundreds have been wounded and more than 800 have been arrested since a cut to get subsidies sparked to mr. nations last month. their current unrest is said to be the worst incidents urban areas during bashir's 24 year rule. tens of thousands of people rallied in mexico city to mark the 45th anniversary of the massacre of student demonstrators.

on october 2, 1960 eight, just days before mexico city hosted the olympics, government forces opened fire on protesters in the plaza de las tres culturas. the exact death toll remains unknown, but human rights activists say as many as 350 people were killed. to date, no one has been tried or convicted for the killings. on wednesday, a protester described in 1968 student movement. of 1968tudent movement was demanding democratic lights that today allow us to mobilize and have the right to freedom of expression. they don't tell us anymore for posting posters, but we are seeing not they're tearing authoritarianand government. wednesday's protest, at least 97 people were detained. the anniversary came amid mass protest by teachers against education reforms backed by president enrique pena nieto. russian prosecutors have filed

piracy charges against 13 activists with the group greenpeace as well as journalists who cover their attempt to board russia's first arctic offshore oil rig. in a statement, greenpeace called the charges extreme and disproportionate. in ouran interview studio, go to democracynow.org. the national security agency says it has developed the capability to collect the location data from americans a cell phone use, but doesn't currently have a program to store it in bulk. speaking before the senate judiciary committee, general keith alexander said the mass collection of cell phone location information may be a future requirement, but not one currently in place. a chnology entrepreneur has revealed the full story of why he shut down his encrypted e- mail service earlier this year.

closed lavabit in august after refusing to comply with a government effort to tap his customers information. levison has not confirmed the fbi was targeting edward snowden, who used lavabit's services, possess instead of just targeting snowden, the government effectively wanted access to the accounts of 400,000 other customers of lavabit, forcing his decision to close. he spoke out after a federal judge unsealed documents in the case on wednesday. i can august and he was under a gag order, levison appeared on democracy now! for his first broadcast interview. >> i think if the american public knew what our government was doing, they would not be allowed to do it anymore. , which is why i'm here today in d.c., speaking to you. my hope is the media can uncover what is going on without my assistance and sort of pressure

to in effect put a cap on what it is the government is entitled to terms of our private communications. >> ladar levison now says that since first going public, he has been summoned before a grand jury, find $10,000 for handling -- handing over encryption keys on paper instead of digitally, and threatened with arrest for speaking out. a federal judge has ordered the appointment of a monitor to ensure an end to racial profiling buyers on the sheriff joe arpaio. the ruling follows a decision earlier this year that ordered arpaio to stop using race as a factor while trying to round up undocumented immigrants. the san francisco board of supervisors has voted to cut ties to federal program facilitating the deportation of undocumented immigrants arrested for crimes. the boardmous vote, voted to end a practice allowing

the extended detention of undocumented immigrants in order to hand them over to federal authorities for deportation. los angeles took a similar action with the secure mmittees program last year. hundreds of people rallied at the ohio statehouse wednesday to protest antiabortion measures signed into law earlier this year. provisions added to ohio's budget in june effectively defund planned parenthood, shifted funds to privacy centers, and imposed restrictions that could shut down clinics and require providers to detect any fetal heartbeat and then tell the patient about it before an abortion. texas governor rick perry is claiming his wife misspoke when she referred to abortion as a woman's right. at a public event last month, and nita perry was quoted as saying that although she's personally opposed, abortion "could be a woman's right, just like it's a man's right if he wants to have some kind of procedure." governor perry says his wife used the wrong word in the wrong place.

the mortgage giant freddie mac has reached new settlements with three large banks for the sale of toxic mortgages. wells fargo, citigroup, and suntrust banks will pay a combined $1.3 billion to resolve claims around is representing the quality of home loans were bundled into securities. and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. the partial shutdown of the federal government has entered its third day. federaln 800,000 workers are furloughed and numerous governmental programs have been forced to stop running. on wednesday, president obama met with republican and democratic leaders in congress to try to end the deadlock, but there was no breakthrough. republicans have tried to tie continued government funding to measures that would undercut the affordable care act. senate democratic leader harry reid accused republicans of trying to hold the president

hostage over obamacare. >> the president of the united states was very missouri strong, strong, strong. this has never happened before. they can make all the historical analysis that they want. it is never happened before were a political party would be willing to take the country to the brink of financial disaster and say, we are not going to allow us to pay our bills. the president said he will not stand for that. i said i would be happy to work with you on a way out of this, but we are where we are. we are not -- we are through playing these little games. it is all focus on obamacare. >> after leaving the meeting with president obama, house speaker john boehner accused the white house and senate democrats are refusing to negotiate. >> all we are asking for here is a discussion and fairness for

the american people under obamacare. i would hope the president in my democrat colleagues in the senate would listen to the american people and sit down and have a serious discussion about resolving these differences. >> president obama said on wednesday for an interview with cnbc. >> until we make sure that payress allows treasury to for things that congress itself already authorized, we are not going to engage in a series of negotiations. the reason is very simple. if we get in the habit where a wing ofs, an extremist one party whether it is republican or democrat, are allowed to extort concessions based on a threat of undermining they credibility of the united states, then any president who comes after me -- not just me -- will find themselves unable to govern effectively, and that is

not something i will allow to happen. >> the federal government shutdown began on tuesday, october 1, the same day a key facet of president obama's health care law with live nationwide. for the first time, americans were able to begin purchasing health insurance from federal and state exchanges. nearly 3 million people visited the federal website while new york state site clmed it had more than 10 million hits. the new york times reports the new health care law will leave out two thirds of the nation's poor blacks and single mothers and more than half of the nations low-wage workers who don't have insurance. that is because they live in states largely controlled by republicans that have declined to participate in a vast expansion of medicaid. about the federal government shutdown and the launching on the health care exchanges, we're joined by two guests. imara jones is the economic justice contributor for color lines.com and served in the clinton white house.

trudy lieberman is with us, contributing editor to the climate journalism review. she has reported extensively on the affordable care act. imara jones, let's begin with you. the effect of this government crackdown or the government shutdown? >> it is pretty far and wide. whether we are talking about education or nutrition programs or housing programs or the processing of immigration, visas and citizenship, it is a pretty wide shut down. one of the most interesting things is the way this is often frustrating because it makes it appear as if it is a washington game. but for most americans, this is about as real as it gets. the longer it goes on, it will become even more so. particularly, as we push up against the debt limit. this is serious. it is painful. it comes on top of the dramatic

cuts from sequestration. i just heard or spoken to someone last night who said that she personally knew -- she works in the new york city public schools and works with poor children. she heard yesterday of mothers with young children who had gone to wic programs in new york that were out of food. that is on the second day of sequestration and the first day 19,000 kids were kicked out of head start. this is dramatic. it is painful. it is not a game. >> talk more specifically about who this affects. >> what is interesting is during the past 10 years -- actually since the clinton administration, the way that most government programs have been turned is to encourage work amongst the working poor. that is why most people who are poor in this country work and have children. many of the government programs that are discretionary, under discretionary spending, are designed to help that group. that is a nutrition program of

wic, which i spoke about, and head start, which is what working poor parents used to help get their kids an equal footing with everyone else. in terms of housing, there are 3 million people in this country that get their housing through housing support who were, but don't earn enough to live. is a grant byhich the federal government that backgroundsts from that may not necessarily be wealthy have a chance to go to school and on and on and on. those are all of the types of things that are up and on the block right now. it is frightening. a lot of people are in a tough spot. >> furloughed a federal workers handed out shutdown guides to tourists and washington, d.c. on wednesday. they listed which monuments and museums are open and which are closed during the government

shutdown. art to slow or -- seth cousl says the furlough will hurt his family. >> i have two kids in college, out-of-state tuition. it will be a significant hardship, talking about possibly getting emergency loans from the credit union. i just finished paying this continues in two or three months longer, they won't be able to attend next semester. i may have to pull them back. one is getting ready to graduate next year, so he is really kind of calling me everyday, asking me when we are going back to work. that would really be a crushing blow to my family and his future. >> imara jones? >> it is just one story of millions. one of the other interesting parts of the story is the federal government is the largest employer in the united states. regardless of whether or not one is furloughed or at work, you're not receiving a paycheck. that means 2 million families are not receiving pay because of

into discriminatory laws and unionization. people of color are overrepresented in government jobs. there are more people of color in the federal workforce as a whole. what this means is the employment crisis in communities of color economic crisis in communities of color, is accentuated and exacerbated an extended by the shutdown. who gets covered and who doesn't? the front page of the new york , choice by states not to expand that it paid -- not to expand medicaid. >> one thing the gop is saying this is about obamacare wanting to shut down the government because of obama care, but the gop has largely be towed obama carry many places in this country. obamacare in many

places in this country. --half of the states overwhelmingly, they are in the peoplehere half of the of color live in this country, black people, and also the team knows, the second-largest eight in the union with the latino population is texas. it is not included. it is leaving a lot of people behind. they say they want to rollback obamacare through stopping medicaid, they've largely have. >> it is astounding. 26 dates have rejected the medicaid expansion are home to about half of the country's population writes "the new york times" but about 60% of poor, uninsured blacks and single of the, about 60% countries uninsured working poor are in those states. among those excluded are about 435,000 cashiers, 341 thousand cooks, and 253,000 nurses aides.

trudy lieberman, you have also written extensively about not only the affordable care act, but who gets covered and who doesn't, because you have to include those that will be cut off at medicaid expansion. when they don't get medicaid expansion in their state. thehe irony right now is poor is going to be left out of health care. a whole lot of people at the very, very bottom of our incomes and are work spectrum. who usuallye people have incomes below the federal poverty level. they have very erratic work histories, and so forth, and they really have no options for getting health insurance. act hadrdable care contemplated they would be part of this medicaid expansion. so when the 26 states decided

not to expand, there were provisions for people between poverty, of ironically, the people below 100% are not going to get help. they have no money to buy expensive health insurance. in most of the states, i think it is worth noting that the medicaid programs that do exist do not offer benefits to childless adults. that is especially true in places where they have huge numbers of people in these populations. >> when does the states that have decided against medicaid expansion, when will people be affected? >> there are ready being affected because effectively now they are not under the entrance tent. they probably never have been. on january 1, it was contemplated before the supreme court ruling last year that they

uld be brought under it and they not going to be. >> imara jones, you were in the clinton administration when a previous shutdown happened. i remember the famous image in "the new york post" of newt gingrich as a baby having a tantrum because he was very upset that he was put at the , of of the clinton plane course, in the end, they were forced to back off, the republicans. >> that was my very first job and i probably have been there a couple of weeks. one of the most interesting things is that the degree to which it is incredibly disruptive. it takes maybe a shutdown that took three weeks, it took maybe eight or nine months for the federal government to sort of really pull itself together. and to stand itself back up after a three-week shutdown. this is more dramatic because at that time, half the government was shut down because they pass appropriations bill. this is the entire government. who knows what collateral damage we are causing by shutting down

the government. the centers for disease control is in the midst of their flu vaccination campaign, for example, to vaccinate millions of the most water bowl to prevent this or read of the flu. one of the interesting things is because of the government shutdown, that program has now been halted and as a result, there's a distinct possibility the longer this goes on, we won't have vaccinated millions of people for the flu and may be setting ourselves up for a flu epidemic. and that is just one. there are countless examples of that. >> we're going to take a break and then come back to this discussion. our guest is imara jones and also trudy lieberman. we're talking affordable care act, about who gets insurance and who doesn't, and we're talking government shutdown. stay with us. ♪ [music break]

>> this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. on monday, correspondence with the show "jimmy kimmel live" asked pedestrians in los angeles obamacarepreferred or the affordable care act. as it turns out, most people interviewed did not seem to realize that was the same thing. >> to make, the affordable care act is more affordable than obamacare. >> the name says it all? >> yes. >> i think it is nice that people can afford it and everyone should be able to afford it. to force people to pay something the doctors to make something, limiting their ability to do their jobs, it is kind of anti-

american. >> obamacare is un-american? >> i think it is un-american. >> and the affordable care act is american? >> i think is more american because it lets people make their own choices on what they want and who they want to work with. >> do you agree with the affordable care act or obamacare? >> the affordable. >> and why do prefer that over obamacare? >> i just don't agree with the policy thingre going on. i just don't agree with it. >> that was from jimmy kimmel. imara jones, color lines., and judy lieberman -- trudy lieberman, are our guests. >> the republicans began to use the word obamacare -- remember, we had hillarycare ann romneycare. i think are hoping to demonize the law by the term. apparently, they did. according to the jamaican will

interviews, people seem to prefer the more neutral term affordable care act and they liked the name affordable, thinking the law is going to make health insurance more affordable for them. the appointed navigators, how they help potential policy owners untangle some of the intricacies. >> we really don't know exactly at how all of this is going to play out. the navigators have recently been trained. it is a very, very complicated process, i think, to buyer insurance policy. it is whether we are buying it in the exchange were outside the exchange. it involves a lot of thinking about your risks and how much you're willing to tolerate and what you think your needs are going to be the next year. when it comes to health care, you really don't know what your needs are going to be next year unless you have a chronic illness. unforeseen things happen. that is very difficult. so the navigators,

theoretically, or supposed to be stationed at various laces around the country -- >> and some states, they purposely, like in florida, don't let you know who these navigators are, the people who supposed to help you. >> in florida, they're not allowed to sign people up, for example, at health county -- county health departments. so you see a lot of navigators, and in some states, there will not be enough money for navigators and in some areas of a state, there may not be very many navigators, if any at all. in general, they should be able to help people walk through that process. sit down with them at the computer, understand that their income is, how it is likely to change during the year, if it is going to change. and about the kinds of policies they need. think about the kind of premium that will fit in their budget.

i think based on what i've heard from the two days of the sign- up, a lot of people are going for the cheapest premium they can find. and that is not necessarily good way to buy insurance. is verynow insurance expensive and it is going to keep getting expensive. i don't see that will change a lot in the near future. >> can the push for repeal affect anything retroactively? >> i think it is going to be depending on how the law is written. i suppose they can say it is never going to happen. i think is probably not likely to happen. i think the law is going to go ahead. >> what we must surprised by in your research? >> how little the american people know about what american health care is all about. it is absolutely astonishing to me there so little information about what kind of system we it is so it works, why

expensive. i think most people do not understand the root causes of the high cost of health insurance in this country. it is not necessarily the insurance companies. it is the medical establishment prettyts the price, much. insurance companies are basically a pass-through. you can argue whether they need to be there or whether they should have higher administrative costs, but i don't think people realize it is the hospitals and the doctors and the whole medical establishment right now that is the root of our health care -- >> is it possible this could lead to single-payer? >> i think it could go either way. i think if this law does not work, and we don't know yet what is going to happen. it will probably take two years or longer for shakeout to occur. and if it doesn't work, i think there'll be cries for national health service. >> imara jones, your take on this? you're talking about millions of poor left out now, the entire

south, i mean, 26 states opting out of medicaid expansion, the poorest, millions and millions of people not now having any insurance. could this be the path to single-payer? >> perhaps. i think the only way that would happen is that t law is successful. it has to be noted that at the same time it leaves nine support behind, it is the single largest expansion of health care in 50 years. it is a paradox. which is an interesting place to be. if it is successful in the other states that did not expand medicaid in terms of bringing down cost, in terms of helping states get health care costs under control -- because one of the most important things about the law is it actually turns health care into a functioning priceplace through transparency. you can make judgments about how much things cost by comparing across states. if it is successful in terms of bringing down costs, i think there'll be pressure on gop

governors in the south to adopt and to expand it, but i think that is the only way. right now the problem is, this is about politics, not policy. if it was about politics -- if the government was going to pay for 100% expansion in health care of the working poor in your state, they would do that. the reason why they're not his because of politics. >> let's talk about the debt ceiling, how this fits into this picture. and explain what it is, what the debate is and how this is converging with that deadline. >> on october 17, the u.s. hits its debt ceiling, which is the legal limit passed by congress for how much the country can borrow. it allows the u.s. to go on the open market and to borrow money in order to pay its costs. the number of the debt right now is $16 trillion. it sounds a lot. it freaks people out, but this is a big country with big

responsibilities. the important thing about that is not how big it is, but your ability to pay for it the u.s. can pay for it. congress does not raise the debt ceiling, what will happen states treasury will run out of money. they say they only have $30 billion in the bank. if that happens, interest rates are going to go up dramatically for homeowners, student loans, credit cards. the united states is the global reserve currency and many things are dollar-denominated, he will touch off a global economic crisis because it is going to totally revalue the dollar. the fx are on and on and on. that is just two weeks away. we have a weak economy that is made weaker by sequestration of the jobs lost this year. on top of the government shutdown which is taking millions of paychecks and pushing millions of americans to the edge. on top of that, two weeks from now, we are on the verge of a

global economic crisis caused by this. i think there is a strong likelihood that will happen because it is important for people to realize that for the tea party, this is about principle and not politics and they believe whatever means are necessary to turn back the government they think is out of control is what they're going to do. >> but they are in the minority, even of the republican party in congress. >> that's right, but the problem is, they have the money. this is the thing. they're sitting on the funding source for the republican party. that is what puts them in the drivers seat. >> john boehner could stop this at any point and he would have majority support. >> john boehner almost lost his job due to this last year. you only held onto the speakership i believe by 6 boats. up to 80 of them -- it just 20 of them decide to not support him for he did have a leadership challenge. >> wasn't now going anyway? it is not forbut

certain. if you are certain you are going to go out, then it was into me he would wish to be a statesman and do things differently, but that is not where we are. >> elizabeth warren was speaking on monday just before the government partially shut down. with millions of people going out of work with an economic fragile,still far too with students and families been crushed by student loan debt, with millions of seniors denied their chance at one hot meal a day, with meals on wheels, and millions of little children pushed out of head start because of a sequester, with the country hours away from the government shutdown and days away from a potential default on the nation's debt, the republicans have decided the single most important issue facing our nation is to change the law so that employers can deny women access to birth control coverage. in fact, letting employers

decide whether women can get birth control covered on their insurance plans is so important that the republicans are willing to shutter the government and potentially tanked the economy. over whether women can get access to birth control in the year 1913,not the but the year 2013. i have a daughter and i have granddaughters, and i will never vote to let a group of backward looking ideologues cut women's access to birth control. world, anded in that we are not going back. not ever. >> that was senator elizabeth warren rigo for the government shutdown. final comment? >> she did mention meals on wheels, and that program has been affected also by the sequestration.

there are elders waiting in line for food. we didn't talk about that, but that is just as important as some of the other things that will be cut. as far as the affordable care act, i think it is going to be very interesting in that six months, for sure, during the open enrollment period and into the next couple of years. >> imara jones? by the way, do you think any of these websites have been hacked? theyork and even go online first day. >> i saw in the paper there's been no evidence of hacking, that it was a lack of capacity on the part of the sites. i think we are in a really fragile state. one of the things we have to be really careful about is to not be alarmists. but i think if you're not necessarily concerned about where we are, then one should be. it is really important to realize that within a matter of weeks, we really to be back in a situation of where we were in 2008, and the only way that

changes the people make their voice heard in demand washington change and put the government back on the side of the people and not on the side of this group of 30 that wishes to undo what they would deem to be a socialist government. >> we willeave it there, imara jones, of color lines.com, entry lieberman of the columbia journalism review. when we come back, we're coming up on the 12th anniversary of the war in afghanistan. this was america's longest war. we will speak with a woman who was an afghan parliamentarian, now lives underground in afghanistan. transcripts, podcasts, video and audio podcast, you can go to our website democracynow.org. we will be back in a moment. ♪ [music break]

>> this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. as we turn now to afghanistan. next week marks the 12th anniversary of the beginning of what has become the longest war in u.s. history. week, defense secretary chuck hagel said the united states is seeking to sign an accord with the afghan government to keep u.s. troops in the country for the indefinite future. the united states plans to pull out the bulk of its 57,000 troops in afghanistan by the end of 2014, but the pentagon wants to retain a smaller force of around 10,000 forces after 2014.

addition, the united states wants to maintain the right to run unilateral counterterrorism operations in afghanistan after 2014. to discuss the situation in afghanistan, we are joined by the activist and former afghan member of parliament, malalai joya. in 2010, "time" magazine named her one of the most 100 most influential people in the world. she is author of the book, "a woman among warlords: the extraordinary story of an afghan who dared to raise her voice." she will be joining us in a moment. first, let's go to the film "enemies of happiness." it begins in december 2003 in a meeting of afghanistan's newly elected constitutional assembly. then unknown 24-year-old malalai joya steps to the microphone to deliver a speech that would make

headlines around the world and draw threats against her life. >> what are u saying? >> we can get a word in.

>> that was malalai joya challenging the leaders of the loya jirga, former member of parliament, december 2003. malalai joya joins us in studio

now. what happened after that, malalai joya? >> i said the truth and expose them as the fundamentalist warlords were basically like taliban but only physically have been changed and imposed on the afghan people. they are in power. they control afghanistan. i exposed them. they expelled me from the loya jirga and not allow me to come back. they said if i apologize, i could come back. i never said apology. they must say an apology to all of the oppressed people of afghanistan, especially [indiscernible] ofmit crimes under the name women's rights, human rights, and democracy. move into the 12th anniversary of the war in afghanistan, what has happened to your country.

first of all, what are you doing there today? you're no longer a member of parliament. >> i am there underground. i have close contact with quite what you mean, underground? >> we have bodyguards. it is not safe moving from one place to another place. 10, terrorist attack my house and 12 of my bodyguards were brutally injured. that is why i have to be underground. house.ave an office or for security reasons, not only me -- there are many other activists that are struggling but have to be underground. in regards to your question

about consequences of the 12 years of occupation of u.s. and crimesnfortunately, war violations, looting of our resource and changing of our country into a mafia state, during these 12 bloody years since thousands of innocent civilians have been killed by occupation forces and terrorist groups. they have to change [indiscernible] more than 90% of opium produced from afghanistan, i believe, opium is even more dangerous than a qaeda and war as destroying the lives of afghans. around julian afghans are addicted, most are -- around julian afghans are addicted, most of them women and shall. afghanistan is the worst place

to be a woman. they committed crimes against our people. while this disgusting wars going on. even now, try to negotiate with terrorist taliban. we're saying to our people, we are there to fight against taliban and al qaeda, but now u.s. officials and the puppet regime of karzai publicly say the taliban are not there means any war and negotiate with them and to try [indiscernible] >> the news agency press reports the u.s. plans to pull out the bulk of its 57,000 troops in afghanistan by the end of 2014 and has tentative plans to retain a smaller force of around 10,000 forces after that. on monday, u.s. defense secretary chuck hagel said he hoped an accord on the future u.s. military presence in

afghanistan would be in place by november. chuck hagel said -- however, president karzai has insisted afghanistan would not be rushed over the negotiations and is even hinted an agreement might not be finalized before presidential elections in april next year. about the u.s. presence now in afghanistan and the future plans for bases and a base of operations for counterterrorism forces, malalai joya. >> as i briefly said, a tip of the iceberg and some of the route tel aviv and war crime of the war also -- some of crimes of u.s. and others. they said just a few thousands of the troops would withdraw.

but there are military bases that remain, nine major military bases. they're going to legalize this. they raise this propaganda that civil will happen if we leave afghanistan. behind this, the hand of the u.s., to make afraid of people bases.pt these military i believe as long as in a country which has foreign military bases, u.s. military bases, they can't expect they have independence. when we in my country don't have independence, talking about democracy, women's rights, human rights, it is just a painful joke. becomes clear for afghan people that the u.s. is there for their own strategy and

political interest. they don't take care of the afghan people. therefore, their own evil agenda is now trying to say it is the taliban and also empower in the name of national peace and reconciliation, as i believe the so-called peace will be more dangerous than the current war united it will become the enemies of afghan people. of russia,e puppets now our people call them [indiscernible] 5000 innocent people were massacred and killed by puppets of russia. so u.s. trying to make more powerful the puppet regime and also military bases remain there, then even indirectly and also in a different way, they

continue to control afghanistan. >> do you think the u.s. forces should remain there? >> they must leave afghanistan as soon as possible. they should leave now. there've occupied our country. we have never accepted occupation. they push more afghanistan toward the stone ages by supporting these terrorists. it makes it a struggle harder for democracy. >> can you talk about the night raids, the joint special --rations command -- j stock what is happening now in afghanistan with u.s. troops there, what they're doing? troops have, u.s. occupied our country

[indiscernible] it is like hell. the women are the prime victims. domestic violence is expanding. many other violences are increasing more and more. right now i am following the case of a guard who has been raped and killed by member of the provincial council and three other parliamentarian so-called members of parliament, they are a partner in this case and trying to force the medical report of the raped girl. and a young girl has been prosecuted publicly by one of the fundamentalist party, islamic party [indiscernible] taliban in different provinces

are doing public executions. many other examples like this, shows the control data by day and getting more powerful. that is why we want the withdrawalf the troops as soon afghanistan because they double our miseries and sorrows of our people. if they leave, at least these warlords and taliban terrorists will not be more powerful, to be easier for them to eliminate democratic people of afghanistan or suffer or kill innocent people. >> why are you here, malalai joya, in the united states? >> i'm here to talk about the 12th anniversary of the u.s. and nato occupation, and to bring the message of suffering people of afghanistan to justice loving people of the u.s., as always i say u.s. government has two

faces. one is the imperialist government of the u.s. and the other is great people like ,radley manning, edward snowden john knowles burke and many others -- daniel ellsberg, and many others who stand up against these war crimes and warmongers and they live in the hearts of millions of democratic justice loving peoplaround the world, especially oppressed people of the world. they are for my people. we need the support of justice loving people of the u.s. to join their hands with us. unfortunately, we say today in perl is him and fundamentalism has joined hands -- imperialism and fundamentalism has joined hands. even if it happens in iran or iraq, palestine, libya, syria, etc., we need to be united and

continue our struggle against these war mongers. fortunately, we see justice loving people around the world -- especially in the west -- [indiscernible] is a big source of hope for the future. >> what kind of response are you getting from people in the united states? for many who just standard consumers of the media, the war in afghanistan is hardly talked about. >> i know. .'m disappoted day by day, it is getting more and more as i have experienced , on behalf of the suffering people of afghanistan. each time i travel to the u.s., see more announce their support. an openecomes like sickness for justice loving

people around the world, especially for the u.s. people. a t t t the tay negative role of these occupiers , about their brutalities and of thesealities fundamentalists that are a puppet of the u.s., we need their support, especially i'm asking for educational support as i believe it is the key against occupation, against fundamentalism toward emancipation. we really need their support as we see just a small hope, courage, determination, but we need more. >> i want to thank you very much for being with us, malalai joya, activist, former member of parliament from afghanistan, author of, "a woman among warlords: the extraordinary story of an afghan who dared to raise her voice." malalai joya was named one of the most influential people in andworld from the top 100

2010 by "time" magazine. in 2011, she was listed among the most top 100 women activists and campaigners. that does it for our broadcast. herman wallace remains alive. one of the angola 3. his conviction was just overturned. he left prison on tuesday and remains in a new orleans hospital, dying of veins liver cancer. democracy now! is looking for feedback from people who appreciate the closed captioning. e-mail your comments to outreach@democracynow.org or mail them to democracy now! p.o. box 693 new york, new york 10013. [captioning made possible by democracy now!]

tavis: good evening. from los angeles, i am tavis smiley. tonight our conversation with oscar and tony winning actress marcia gay harden.she can be seen this season in trophy wife. her latest film is in theaters this weekend. the movie looks at the aftermath in dallas of the jfk assassination. our conversation with marcia gay harden, coming up right now.

>> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. tavis: marcia gay harden has an oscar, a tony, and two emmy nominations to her credit. she just wrapped an exceptional

guest starring turn on "newsroom." she can be seen on "trophy wife," and her latest movie is it deals withand." the fallout in dallas of the assassination of jfk. she plays one of the emergency room nurses that had to cope with the immediate crisis. we take a look at a clip from "parkland." >> doctor, doctor. >> who is the attending? >> dr. perry. >> it is justway. you. >> do something. >> doctor. tavis: here you go again playing a stoic, unflappable, no-

nonsense character. >> nothing like me. [laughter] my kids may say that's like me, but i think of myself, you want to know how i'm feeling, just look at me.nothing is hidden. i cry like a baby. i get upset, i stamp my feet. i'm not stoic. tavis: it has been 50 years since the assassination of jfk. i don't know how his family feels about this, but it did doesn't seem like 50 years, the story that we hear about all the time. it has like never gone away. i raise that to ask, what did you see when you saw the screenplay that made you want to do this, for something we have been hearing about almost weekly and monthly for 50 years? >> it is interesting, because i was alive when he died.

so i remember my parents morning, and it is the same kind allthing when 9/11 occurred. the adults around you were in tragedy. my kids know of the story but they don't have an emotional connection to that story. these are the real people surrounding the tragedy.right at the time we were shooting, they had that sandy hook incident. the people who stood out at the sandy hook incident as heroes were the normal, ordinary people who went to save those children. this story is about the normal people. what is so interesting that i didn't know is that parkland hospital was a learning hospital. his is where the doctors went to learn how to be doctors. i didn't know what they were doing. the person who would've run that room would have been the head nurse. can you imagine, you're going there to learn how to become a doctor, and here comes the president. and three days later, lee harvey oswald was in the same hospital.