defund affordable care act, and effort which led to the government shutdown. his role in the fiscal standoff has prompted his hometown newspaper, the houston chronicle, to reverse its endorsement of him. in an editorial, the chronicle said ted cruz's predecessor, kay bailey hutchison, would've been more inclined to negotiate with democrats and avoid the government shutdown. they wrote -- the easing of the fiscal standoff has raised hopes congress may now consider other matters including a pat to citizenship for millions of undocumented people. groups of -- group's demanding an end to unprecedented

deportations under president obama have ramped up their call for conference of immigration reform recently with a series of direct actions from washington dc to arizona. week,interview this president obama bout to push for reform the day after the fiscal crisis was resolved. >> once that's done, the day after, i'm going to be pushing to say, call a vote on immigration reform. if i have to join with other advocates and continue to speak out on that and keep pushing, i'm going to do so because i think it is really important for the country and now is the time to do it. >> the washington post has revealed how the national security agency works extensively with the cia to gather information on potential drone victims as part of the obama administration's assassination program. the article describes the case of hassan ghul, a pakistani man who provided key information that helped the ca find osama bin laden. documents show a secret nsa unit known as the counterterrorism

mission aligned cell tract hassan ghul for year before in e-mail from his wipers used to locate his household and kill him in a drone strike last october. "arsenal ofoyed a cyber espionage tools" to find hassan ghul, and tracking radio transmissions to determine where he might that down. while officials say the nsa has senior analyst deployed alongside cia counterparts at a most every major u.s. embassy were military base abroad, the article highlights the agency's fast efforts in northwest pakistan. one former official compared the nsa's powers to the cia's high- tech information operation center, saying -- the washington post said it was withholding many details about

the missions at the request of u.s. intelligence officials. states, andited five other countries have wrapped up two days of talks in geneva over iran's disputed nuclear program. the parties agreed to meet again in early november to continue negotiations that iran hopes will lead to an easing of devastating sanctions. the eu foreign-policy chief, who led the talks, read a joint statement issued with her iranian counterpart. >> building on the positive atmosphere of the first in a serial meeting held in new york on september 26, the foreign minister of the islamic republic of iran presented an outline of a plan as a proposed basis for negotiation, which is being carefully considered by the group as an important contribution. >> jpmorgan chase has agreed to pay $100 million and amid its traders acted robustly during a series of damaging traits in london last year. it is the latest in a series of

fines over the so-called london whale trades that cost jpmorgan more than $6 billion into real financial markets worldwide. the case marked the first use by the commodities futures trading commission of a new rule enabled by the dodd frank act that lowered the bar for proving companies manipulated financial markets. in new brunswick am canadian police have dissented on an kamman of residents, including mah firstf the mig nation who have been holding a weeklong blockade to prevent fracking. based company southwestern energy company swn, wants to conduct exploration in the area which the protesters believed would lead to fracking. since the summer, swn poss efforts have been repeatedly thwarted by blockades and other direct actions. for more than two weeks, area residents have shut down route 134 which leads to an equipment compound used by the company. the protesters say fracking would pollute their drinking water.

>> it is not worth risking our water. even if they drill five wells and nothing happens, if they drilled the sixth one, it could be a disaster. our water is not worth it. our land is not worth it. the future generations deserve better. swn resource compound has been costing the upwards -- much money per day. >> and breaking news, about 50 royal canadian mounted police descended on the arcade in an attempt to break it up. sources at the scene say molotov cocktails flew out of the and kamman and at least one person has been reportedly arrested. under report by the workers in source and has found the majority of workers in haiti's government industry are being denied nearly one third of the wages they're legally owed due to widespread wage theft. the new evidence built on an earlier report that found every single one of haiti's export garment factories was illegally shortchanging workers.

workers in haiti make clothing for u.s. retailers including cap, target, levi's and walmart. the report highlighted abuses at park,rakoram industrial new factory complex totally subsidized by the u.s. state department, the inter-american development bank, and the clinton foundation and it is touted as a key part of haiti's post-earthquake recovery. the report found on average workers at the complex are paid 34% less than the law requires. their minimum wage in haiti is between $.60 and $.90 an hour. more than three quarters of workers interviewed said they could not afford three meals a day. a boat carrying 50 people believed to be migrants from haiti and jamaica capsize off the shore of miami wednesday, killing four and -- killing four of the six women on board. the surviving 11 people have been detained by immigration authorities. a missouri prosecutor who drop charges in the marysville rate days that has ignited national outrage says he will ask a

special precutor to re-examine the case. the victim, daisy coleman, said she was given alcohol and raped during a gathering of high school athletes last year while another team filmed the incident. the 14-year-old was then dumped on her porch in below freezing temperatures, barely conscious. her 13-year-old friend also says she was actually assaulted the same night. despite reported evidence and interviews supporting the case, prosecutors dropped charges against daisies accused rapist, matthew barnett, a well- connected football player, and her family faced such constant harassment they say they were forced to leave town. the prosecutor's announcement came a day after missouri's lieutenant governor called for grand jury to review the case. in new york city, students and alumni of the city university of new york gathered at john jay college wednesday evening to former ciaprotest director and military general david petraeus as he was honored

at a gala. he commanded u.s. troops in iraq and afghanistan. he is now teaching a course at cuny, where he has routinely faced protests. one of the alumnus spoke at wednesday's action. >> we are angry at the fact he's been not only an opportunity but and hasnored fundraisers on in his name. we have to say this is beyond academic freedom. this is a complete indoctrination into something which is the idea that america is a deception all that we can do whatever we want and the people that do whatever they want, even against the will of most of the international community, can now continue to have influence in society. our responsibility is to make sure they never have any more influence ever again. students are facing charges for protesting general pretorius last month, two are due back in court today. newark mayor cory booker has won

a special senate election in new jersey. he defeated republican steve lonegan to fill the seat left open by the death of senator frank lautenberg. booker is new jersey's first african-american senator and the only elected african-american now in the senate. and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. congress approved an 11th hour deal late last night to end the 16 day partial government shutdown and pull the nation back from the brink of an default. the spending measure passed the senate and house of representatives after republicans dropped efforts to use the legislation to force changes in the affordable care act. obama signed the spending bill last night. >> once again i want to thank the leadership for coming together and getting this done. hopefully next time it won't be in the 11th hour. one of the things i said throughout this process is, we

have got to get out of the habit of governing by crisis. >> the spending bill offers only a temporary fix. it funds the government until january 15 and raises the debt ceiling until february 7. we go to washington dc where we're joined by longtime democratic congressmember john conyers of michigan, ranking member of the house judiciary committee. he has served more than 48 years in congress, longest ever by any african american. welcome to democracy now! talk about the significance of this crisis for the moment being averted and what it cost the country. >> top of the morning, amy. after 16 days, we finally at the to get to were able some agreement that is really very short-lived. the continuing resolution only lasts until the middle of

january, on martin luther king's birthday, ironically, and the debt ceiling expires on february 7. so this is merely kicking the can down the road, as they say. important -- i am still trying to rationalize how the non-tea party republicans in party-se can let the tea oriented members in their caucus control everything. it is really kind of disappointing because you can't overiate over a dispute one measure which creates health care for millions of americans that can't afford it, that we

would close down the funding of the entire government. this is a tactic that is so obviously out of place and makes the legislative process literally unworkable. so it is my hope that we can figure out a way to get this rolling again. speaker boehner is in an incredible position. his legacy is going to be determined by whether he in to theto cave ultra conservatives in his caucus or not. seemed to me, it that he wanted to be more ofperative but he was afraid

even being dismissed from the speakership. i think he is over that kind of , hop thomas -- kind of a hump but at a cost of $24 billion, 800,000 people out of work, and in the government after we signed it late last night, they say all government workers, please come to work the very next day. of $24 you say cost billion, why did it cost the country to shut down? >> well, the shutdown took funding wherever there was is lacedunding, which into so many of the important , for young people, for schools, for health care. and all of those people that would have been working would

have been getting income and spending it. so that is where the cost figure comes from, from standard & poor's. >> and another 3 billion dollars, clearly, senator mitch mcconnell who's been credited with helping to resolve the conflict, got a big payment back for kentucky, a $3 billion earmark for a dam. >> yes. there are a lot of things that were filtered into it there really had nothing to do with it. but we are still wrestling in the minds of many legislators, the issue between austerity and investment. and to me, that argument has been resolved in favor of investment, but there are still people who think that we can save our way and this overemphasis on the national

debt, to me, ignores the fact that we lost jobs. we lost work. bill.d a full employment it is my hope that we can take the aim to create full employment for everybody in america and put it number one on our domestic agenda so that we create jobs and that we train andle for important work how to work. >> president obama has agreed to put social security and medicare on the table. you rallied with members of the progressive caucus members and retiree advocates against a -- chained cpi. this certainly isn't over. >> no, not at all.

you know, the president has been stable and he and majority leader reid, they set a good example for us. reallyhink he has got to create a legacy that has a lot more to do with putting everybody back to work. the recession is not over yet. the recovery is slow. unemployment is still way too high. your is so much more that we could -- there is so much more that we could do. and to think that you would have so many members, 144 in the house and 18 in the senate, who would say, well, there's nothing wrong with shutting down the whole government, not raising

the debt ceiling, and really hurting the credit rating of the largest, most powerful country in civilization. it is just unimaginable the actions they would turn to to get their way on a very small and modest bill, obamacare. we are talking about universal health care for everybody, single-payer. that is what the new direction is. and yet this kind of everything or nothing and we're going to get our way on any bill, that ord of an attitude destroys compromises the democratic legislation -- >> do you think we will see single-payer in your lifetime?

i mean, you're celebrating a must 50 years in congress. in the next 50 years that you serve? >> i think we are on the way to single-payer because it has been proven in all of the studies in countries that have it that it is cost-effective and it is healthier for people. it saves money. we spend far more money than on health the world care. our results are really not that encouraging. >> we are going to go to break, but we are asking you to stay with us for the hour because we're going to go back to a case that has been unresolved for 28 years, one you been involved with from the very beginning, calling for hearings and an investigation. it is the death of alex odeh, who was one of the leaders of the american arab antidiscrimination committee,

blown up by a pipe bomb when he opened the door to his office and received a package. this was in orange county, california. we're going to talk about the call for new investigation in his assassination. stay with us. ♪ [music break]

>> this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. the fbi and justice department

are being urged to renew its investigation into one of the most shocking political murders in recent u.s. history. 28 years ago this month, october 11, 1985, a prominent palestinian american leader named alex odeh was killed by powerful type bomb planted at the santa ana, california offices of the american arab antidiscrimination committee, where he worked at the work -- as the western regional director. seven people were injured in the blast. the bombing made national news. these are some of the news clips featured in recent online documentary. >> an active terror here at home in orange county. >> that is the corner office of what used to be the headquarters of the american arab antidiscrimination committee, the 1900 block of 17th street and santa anna. that is all that is left of that suite. >> the office was destroyed by a bomb. a man was killed and seven others injured.

>> some fear international terrorism may be taking root here. the man who was killed by the blast, alex odeh, aged 41, married, the father of three young daughters. the bomb shattered glass and several other offices. >> debris was everywhere, the the wall was blown out. it looked like a combat zone. >> today where odeh at the hospital, his brother told of numerous death threats received by his brother. >> i don't have any idea who done it. he had been receiving threatening phone calls. radio,fbi quickly named the jewish defense league, as a focus of its investigations in the murder of alex odeh. but 28 years later, no one has been questioned or indicted. just hours before he was killed, odeh appeared on nightline debating a member of the jdl. shortly after skilling, jdl plus chair irv rubin said, "i have no

tears for mr. odeh. he got exactly what he deserved." the jdl was linked to a wave of bombings in the 1980s and now considered a terrorist group by the u.s. government. the arab -- american arab antidiscrimination committee recently joined with the naacp and several prominent members of congress to push more to solve the case. benjamin jealous, the outgoing president of the naacp, like in the case to that of medgar evers, the civil rights activist killed in 1960 three in mississippi. it took 30 years to bring his to justice. to talk more about the killing of alex odeh, we're joined by three guests. attorney albert mokhiber is a former president of the arab -- american arab anti- discrimination committee. is a civil rights attorney here in new york and helped found the adc and was vice chair of the committee at the time.

he was also involved in a groundbreaking court case in the 1970s that forced the national security agency to it knowledge would've been spying on him since 1967. we will talk more about that in a moment. and we're staying with democratic congressmember don conyers of michigan, who is calling for an investigation. let's begin with albert mokhiber . 1985us back to october 11, . tell us exactly what you understand happened. routinely opened the office store that day, and it was a very sophisticated tripwire bomb. when he opened the door, he was blown to pieces. yearsunately, despite 28 of knocking on the doors of justice, we have not found it yet. alex was a very peaceful man.

he was known as an activist not just in the arab american movement but civil rights in june are all -- in general. in fact, many jewish-american inanizations were engaged various types of dialogue with alex and supported us at the outset of this investigation. it was quite a shock. quite honestly, that was probably the reason why alex was targeted. he did not represent what the media or popular culture wanted to see out of arabs. he was a very refined guy, spoke very passionately, eloquently on issues of common cause. he did not brandish a weapon. . was dialogue. the elimination of his voice was a shock to the community and a

very chilling effect. it took years for people to come back to the organization into this whole issue. >> talk about who alex odeh was, albert. >> he was a poet and a published poet. he was a father of three beautiful young girls and his wife norma was left a widow to raise these kids. was first andly foremost. if you look at the photos of him, he was happiest sitting at home with his family and friends. but he was also dedicated to his homeland. he came from a small palestinian christian town. his sister was a nun. he was dedicated to the principles of civil and human rights. he would take trips back home. i remember on a number of occasions i would contact the state department in advance to let them know he was coming, to make sure he was not hassled at the borders.

despite all of that, despite the fact he did everything according to the book, he was still targeted and eliminated in a very savage way. this was one of the first acts of terrorism in the united states are running the middle east crisis. there were two other bombings that year of adc offices prior to that in august our office was bombed and two police officers were actually trying to diffuse the bomb and it blew up on camera. they were both disabled. fortunately, they survived, but it was a horrible situation. in october 11, 19 85, alex was assassinated. here in d.c., our headquarters, on november 29, they were also bombed. i don't think that was coincidence. nobody in any of those three bombings has ever been brought to justice. this is why we have redoubled our efforts. in the memory of alex and for his family, his three daughters. nobody should have this case go

for that long without any resolution. and like member evers, we're hoping that eventually we will get a resolution. i am indebted to congressman don conyers because from the outset, he has always stood with us steadfast and tried to see justice in the case. we are pleased to still in congress and will be helping us yet again to try to get a resolution to this case. >> i want to turn to comments made by the president of the adc los angeles at the time of alex odeh plus murder. this is david habib. >> he was killed as an american in america because we dared to speak for some which is an unpopular truth. that arabs are people too, that arab are americans, too. and that all americans, all americans are entitled to all the rights and privileges of being an american. this referenceable crime threatens the security of all americans everywhere, and must

not go unsolved. >> shortly after the bombing, the associate deputy director of the fbi testified before congress about the attack and the likely perpetrators. this is all of her revell. >> at this point we have insufficient credible evidence to bring charges so these individuals remain as suspects and as such they are entitled to due process and have the same constitutional rights as anyone else, so we are unable for this body to name these individuals or even associate them with a that was testimony before congress. congressmember john conyers, you were a congress men at the time. this was 20 years into your term in congress. to 30 years later, you are calling for an investigation once again.

what happened then? where was the investigation and what will be different now? >> well, that is going to turn in large part on how eric ,older, the attorney general wants to have his legacy viewed as he prepares to leave the top position in the attorney general's office. thatact of the matter is this is an embarrassment. the haven't even dismissed witnesses or the suspects involved. it is like they just put this into a closet and locked the door. and thanks to congresswoman beretta sanchez and others -- , wetta sanchez and others

are saying we don't want president obama and the department of justice to leave this case as if it never happened. theant a hearing in judiciary committee or i will hold a forum if i don't get a hearing, but we have got to get into this. i am going to be working closely with eric holder, who i believe is sensitive to the position that is being raised by many of us now. >> i want to bring in abdeen jabara. you're the vice chair of the american arab antidiscrimination committee at the time. you are a close friend also of alex odeh. talk about what the adc was doing at the time. >> the adc was in the process of organizing arab-americans around

the country. they were engaged in setting up chapters and opening offices in trying to raise issues of import to that community. at the head of those was the continuing problem of the oppression of the palestinian people. >> alex odeh had come from the west bank. >> exactly. >> let's talk about the pattern at the time, what was taking place. i want to go to a quote of the jdl after alex was murdered. irv rubin brushed off the attack saying -- in 2002 irv rubin died in jail while awaiting trial.

talk about the wave of terror in the united states at the time. >> yes, i would like to talk about that because this is part of parcel the whole pattern in history that occurred. you have to remember the founder informant was an fbi in the 1950s. he used a pseudonym to infiltrate the john birch society and he was a paid informant for the fbi. he did not start the jdl until 1968. and from that time on, if one had a rap sheet, and i printed this out from the internet, over 20 pages of bombings and fire bombings, killings, etc. that were caring in the united states because the

jdl -- that were occurring in the united states because the jdl became the shop roots of those were wanting to pressure the soviet union to reduc-- members --to jewish soviet jews to go to israel. out is what one of the principal things the jdl was doing. this had a large political resonance and the jdl got an enormous amount of support. they got a lot of money. they were able to fudge a lot of the criminal charges that were brought against them. on -- kahanis put was allowed to be released during the holidays. you have to understand this in terms of that context. now they turned their attention to every american organizing in this country because they saw

that as a threat. targetought, we will some of the arab-american organizations, which the adl was the largest and actually the most successful in trying to help organize arab-americans, and they thought we would fold if we were -- if several members of our reporters salted or killed and they would intimidate us from continuing this organizing effort. so i think that is the larger context in which this occurred. moved toow, kahani israel and started a political party, etc., and his people in israel continued to do this. the gentleman who attacked the muslims praying was a member of the organization. he killed 27 or 28 people while they were praying. >> can you talk about robert manning?

isyes, robert manning currently in prison. his wife was finally extradited but shelong process, passed away and manning has never been questioned about this murder, to the best of our knowledge. we do know, however, in 2006, did give namesan to the f b i about people who he said were involved in the assassination of alex odeh. and those people are now living not in israel, but in israel occupied territory in a settlement. time --at >> right near roma law -- rama llah. >> yes.

and now there is an action edition treaty with the u.s. that makes anyone that is a dual treatyl -- extradition with the u.s. that makes anyone that is a dual national, there are a lot of hoops they have to go through. only targeto not palestinians. i want to ask about the taste of the jewish impresario performing arts promoter sol hurok. in 1972, a bomb was planted in his office that exploded, killing one and injuring several others. the bombing had been arranged by the jdl which opposed u.s. tours of artists from the soviet union. >> yes, yes. was theaid, the jdl shock troops in attempt to put a lot of pressure on the soviet union to allow -- ultimately -- the political side of that was an amendment in congress where

senator jackson from washington state passed this legislation that we deny trade benefits to the soviet union if they did not allow free jewish emigration out of the soviet union. of course this was very helpful to israel because they wanted to him gather the jews. that was their whole modus operandi. the soviet union had a large jewish population and they wanted to increase the jewish population in israel and so there is a lot that was going on here in terms of the jdl and the people that were backing it. it is not merely just a small cold group that was operating. they got a great deal of support. >> we have a lot more to talk about after the break. the day of his assassination, alex odeh was scheduled to speak

at congress -- in a synagogue in fountain valley. i want to ask about why the investigation was dropped and what it means to reopen it now. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we are speaking with albert , andber and abdeen jabara also with commerce amber john conyers, one of the longest serving commerce members ever. -- congress member john conyers, one of the longest serving congressmembers ever. for a reopening of the investigation into the assassination of alex odeh. stay with us. ♪ [music break]

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justice department being urged to renew their investigation into one of the most shocking political murders in recent u.s. history. it is the assassination of alex 1985, 28ctober 11, years ago. our guests are congressmember don conyers who is calling for that investigation, albert mokhiber, former president of .he adl alex odeh open the door of the offices in orange county and there was a pipe bomb their and he was killed. others were injured. we are also joined by albert mokhiber, a civil rights attorney who is chair of the adc at the time. what was the anti-defamation league doing at the time? outset, we were immolating the organization.

-- in relating the organization, fighting for civil rights for the jewish community. know at the same just they were spying not on the arab-american community, but the progressive jews and native americans and african americans, anybody involved in the spanish were south african issue. there were many groups they were spying on. , two lawsuits were brought against them. one involving adc and some other organizations and the other by a former congressman in the bay area. the troubling aspect of that case besides the fact they were spying on us in gathering information, infiltrating the organization -- not that we have any security issues -- but they had infiltrators who came in under the guise of being members

sympathetic to the issues of the arab-americans. actually they were reporting back, they were taking down, for instance, license plate numbers at the meetings that were taking place and had people planted inside the san francisco police department who then ran the so they manually with through these records and created list for the adl as to who attended these meetings. some of their infiltrators actually were acting as security for some of the organizations in the bay area as well. that was extremely disturbing. wrote allegedly one of the alex'sators had a map of office and a key to that office. we have raised this time and again with law enforcement. why was that the case?

has anyone looked into this? was there any connection? it was very disturbing for the entire community and something we still have no answers for. >> can you talk about the role of robert friedman of the village voice investigating the assassination of alex odeh? >> robert was a great journalist, a very brave man. he was at the lead of the story. he literally wrote the book on the jdl and wrote scores of articles about alex odeh for the village voice and other sources. he laid out the case, basically. if the government takes what robert wrote alone, there would be far along in this investigation. but the israelis have stopped the issue every time we have raised it. we hear the israelis don't want

to call operate, that would be absurd that it would be entreating on the integrity of the palestinians -- don't want to cooperate, that it would be absurd that it would be intriguing on the integrity of the palestinians. we're not quite sure what role these people are actually playing, but robert's work was extremely important. unfortunately, he died rather under a cloud,ss i don't know what the medical results were, but we didn't find out for months afterward because he always kept changing his numbers out of fear for his security. so we would expect calls from him more than we would call to his office. but robert really was the lead on all this investigative work. >> benjamin jealous, the outgoing president of the naacp, has likened alex odeh to the murder of medgar evers, civil rights activist killed in 1963 in mississippi. it took 30 years to bring his assassin to justice.

jealous said in his recent article -- congressmember conyers, if you could talk about that parallel and exactly where you go from here with this case. well, the medgar evers comparison, to me, is quite valid because we have just come forf the air aware -- era civil rights of african- americans in terms of voting in their protections constitutionally have had to be challenged at almost every

juncture. many cases had to be overturned. many new laws had to be brought in. we are still working with horrific voter id laws that states, limit, in many voter participation rather than making it easier to vote. and so i think that we have to days, theack in those department of justice and the fbi was just coming out of the j edgar hoover era, there were lots of problems inside our department of justice and law enforcement in general. to perhapso turn now related, but surely to the claim it. i want to end today show on the

national security agency. our guest here in new york, abdeen jabara, whose cofounder of the committee, was involved in a groundbreaking court case in the 1970s that forced the national security agency to it knowledge it had been spying on him since 1967. the disclosure was the first time, i believe, that the nsa admitted it had spied on an american. i mean, this is at a time, abdeen jabara, than most people had no idea what the nsa was. it is not like these last few months. very interesting. i didn't know what the nsa was. i started a lawsuit against the fbi because i thought the fbi had been spying on me and monitoring my activities. >> why? >> and that of my clients. i will tell you why. i have been very active in palestinian support work. one day i read in "newsweek"

magazine that 26 arabs in the united states have been targeted for surveillance, electronic surveillance. so i thought, surely, some of on thead talk to me phone about issues and so forth. that is when i brought the lawsuit. in 1972.e the fbi >> right. .n the fbi answered on the issue of electronic surveillance, they declined to answer on the basis that it was privileged in state secret. the acluoint in time, came in to represent me. we forced them to answer that question. they admitted there had been some overhears that i had not been personally targeted for electronic surveillance, but there have been overhears of my conversations with my clients.

they also said they refute information from other federal agencies -- received information from other federal agencies and did not want to answer who that agency was. to court compelled them answer. it turned out the other agency was the nsa. we did not know what the nsa was . we found out the fbi had requested any information the nsa had and the nsa had six different communications of -- that i had made. i was president of the association of american arab university graduates in 1972. i had a great deal of work on my plate as the president of the association. i don't know what these communications were. the district court, judge

freeman, held my first amendment and my fourth amendment rights have been violated. an appeal was made to the sixth circuit court of appeals in cincinnati. and they set aside part of that saying that there is no violation of the fourth the memo rights -- forth commitment rights by the national security agency to surveillance and americans communications overseas, even though the person is not a foreign agent. and in fact, five years ago, wheress codified that they have said and there is an article today in "the new york times" about this by saying there is no warrant requirement where the target is a foreign target, even though an american citizen is communicating

overseas. so this whole issue i was surprised after all the snowden-ns about the nsa brouhaha that nobody had looked back at what had occurred show thate 1970s to at that time he came out in the press that over 1600 americans have been surveilled by the nsa. this was before the passage of fisa, foreign intelligence surveillance act. out of that issue in the 1970s, they passed the fisa act and set up a secret court, which is the national security court and the judges are appointed by the chief justice -- >> we have less than a minute. keep going.

>> so they set that up and they said that would create safeguards. this will create safeguards and the only targets can be foreign agents. allbdeen jabara, there are of these records on you and not only the fbi and nsa have come how many other agencies have them and did you get them expunged? >> as a matter fact, i did, after the case was remanded to the trial court for the district or in detroit. we entered into a settlement with the fbi whereby they acknowledged i had not been a violation of any u.s. laws, that i have been exercising my constitutional rights and they would destroy the entire file to had collected on me. >> how many agencies had shared this? foreign governments -- >> which ones? >> and 17 domestic agencies. >> which governments? >> they did not tell us. >> i want to thank you all for being with us. abdeen jabara, one of the founders of the adc, albert

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tavis: good evening. from los angeles, i am tavis smiley. tonight, a conversation with singer-songwriter robbie robertson. a founding member of the band and solo artist, inducted into the rock 'n roll hall of fame and canadian songwriters hall of fame. he just published a new book for young readers titled "legends, icons, and rebels. these occur that change the world." and for those that wished the band had never disbanded, there is a new compilation out with legendary concerts in 1971.

joined usd you have for a conversation coming up right now. >> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. as a musician, robbie

robertson has been hailed by rolling stone magazine as one of the 100 greatest guitarists of all time. he ended up in the rock 'n roll hall of fame and the canadian songwriters hall of fame. safe to say he knows a little bit about great music and has cowritten a book. cd set thatt, a two was recorded in new york in 1971. ♪

tavis: i always get a kick asking whether or not you remember this. >> if you remember it, you weren't there. tavis: do you remember those nights? >> i very well remember them. it was a very special time. musician new orleans did charge for this show. they sat with us and our old buddy. it was a great time and very memorable. hear this stuff all these years later, how does this

sound to you? for this collection, the record company came to me a few months ago and said, we found the tapes. and in the course of this, we found lost footage and photographs. we found so much stuff. amazed, am always because i hold on to everything, i am constantly amazed. i never understood how historic stuff like this gets lost. like thisomething gets lost for 50 years? >> they have to store it somewhere and there is so much of it.