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a former member. >> morton took a look at the footage from inside westgate. >> this one. in the black jacket. >> henrickson admits he has not seen his neighbor for four years but he points without prompting to the black shirt, apparently cooperating other sources -- coo bberating. >> he was a bit extreme. was talking about look around all the time. the way we live here. >> those of the pictures from norway. we can speak noun to a former member of norway's anti- immigration progress party and now a deputy mayor of a city just south of oslo. angst for joining us. for joining us. what sort of response in the
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last few hours is there to the news that emerge that it was a norwegian citizen among those involved in the shopping mall siege? >> i think they are -- we are shocked and surprised. we don't really regard norway as a entry where this kind of radicalization should be able to flower. but -- >> we seem to have a slight problem. i don't know if you can still hear me. this is, of course, one individual after -- we lost you a little bit. one individual from a substantial community of somali origin people in norway. is there and the reflection being made on the community as a whole? -- any reflection being made on the community? of years ago,e had a terrorist attack from one
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of our own. that terrorism can come from almost everywhere. but it is important that when you have a community where people are talking about wanting have it more like the country they are fleeing from, you have to be aware of the things that might happen. >> do you think norway as a country should or could be doing more to integrate that somali community into the rest of the population? >> i think one always can do things better. but it is always important to remember that society should be , butto be integrated in people also have to want to become integrated. i have to say that sometimes the somalian society has shown itself a bit more difficult to integrate than some of the other societies. >> we will leave it there.
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thank you very much, indeed, for joining us. also with me, our security correspondent. frank, i suppose it is very important to make the point that this is one person out of a community of 25,000. >> the ratio is one in a thousand, in terms of those that the norwegian authorities know have gone to somali to join al- shabaab that they know about. so it is very important not to demonize the somali community, the majority of which, had nothing to do with terrorism or extremism at all. it is also important, i think, to the sting was between devout religiosity and extremism. just because somebody is devout and reads the koran does not make them extremist. in the case of this man, hassan abdi dhuhulow, he joined an extremist violent organization. they knew about him. they knew al-shabaab had a network in norway. perhaps not as strong as it was five years ago.
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>> in a way it is extraordinary. 25,000 people in a population of only 5 million. that is a substantial number of people. you would have thought the intelligence operation would be both acute and -- >> norwegian investigators have been down to nairobi to join the canyons and try to piece it together. there is another norwegian connection, a person named ikrima, an adopted name. americans failed to capture a few days ago when they did that raid, the u.s. navy seal team six recently got outgunned by the people defending the house that they thought he was in. he is somebody who spent some years, about four years in norway, he applied for the weekend political asylum, and then he left in 2008 before you got it -- he got it. >> i presume, it is precisely
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why norway -- i believe they pay a lot of the salaries for civil servants in somalia, desperately keen there is no growth of the influx from somalia. >> the idea of blowback, that people who leave european countries to go off to fight jihad in some distant place -- whether afghanistan, mali, and somalia, if they survive it, , these battlether scenarios where life is short and cheap, the idea they would come back and put those skills to u in their adopted country. that has always been the fear. there are no signs of that actually happen with norway at the moment. but that is the fear. >> thank you very much. one man has been killed -- >> for a second day, much of new south wales in to youtube burn.
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the worst of brush fires the state has seen in a decade. more than 2000 firefighters battling to bring them under control. but for some, the damage has already been done. this is all that is left of some of the homes in the small community in the blue mountains. this is one of the worst affected areas. the fire swept up through the bush which surrounds this small community in probably a matter of minutes. so, the families who live here, scores of them, have been left, well, with pretty much nothing. i helped the next or neighbor get out, got the dog and a few little items, and two doors down, an explosion. i knew then that my house was gone. >> it came pretty quick. my neighbor told me to get out. keys, so i find my
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left my front door open. it is a bit devastating. but it is all in short -- insured, i know, and we are all here. >> there is still a pretty major operation in this area to try to put out the fires. we have helicopters coming in sucking up water from various lakes, and then they are going to dump those on the fire, if you kilometers to the right of where i am standing. the firefighters have a bit of a window. temperatures have dropped. the winds are less strong and they're trying to get as many of the fires out before the weekend when the temperatures are forecast to rise again. much biggers seen fires than these, but the fact they have come so early this year -- it is still spring -- means a difficult and dangerous summer to come. bbc news, new south wales. >> prospects are not good, are
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they? let's get a quick look at some of the other news. emergency workers in laos covered at least 70 bodies from the wreckage of a plane that crashed in the river earlier in the week -- 17 bodies from the wreckage. in bad weather. no one is thought to have survived. one of the members of the russian punk band pussy riot ~ court she is withdrawing her appeal against a prison sentence , in solidarity of another member of the band who is in the hospital due to a hunger strike. they were accused of an anti- putin protest song. ofbrazil is on the verge being a major oil producer as it auctions off the rights to develop one of the biggest offshore deposits ever found. hee find is just off of t coast of rio de janeiro and by 4 milliontput
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barrels a day. but there are concerns brazil is simply demanding too high a price for the rights to develop it and imposing too many restrictions on whoever wins the bidding. join the is about to big leagues, and anyone who is in -- who is a player in the oil business is heading south. the knees these ways is the the largest one of offshore deposits found in brazil is selling the rights to develop the area. but there are pretty tight strings. this is really the new frontier. figures are mind-boggling. an extra 2oduce million barrels of oil a day and trillions of dollars for the economy. just to the north of rio de janeiro in this fishing village, oil is taking over. big multinationals, contractors, and their support vessels are
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queuing up for their share of the windfall. areish companies, too, investing heavily in the oil boom. --hough neither bp nor joined into the bidding process, smaller, specialized contractors say they have to be where the oil is now. is on theth sea downside. every day there is less oil, less gas there. , ifhink those companies they do not look to africa and south america in the future the business will strengthen -- shrink. >> brazil is already training workers from poorer parts of the country to work on the oil platforms. but there are concerns it has neither the experience or the infrastructure to double its daily output to 4 million barrels and oil when the field comes online. the head of brazil's national
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oil agency dismisses suggestions that the country's state- dominated sect or can't cope with such a huge challenge. are working on new platforms, new drilling rigs, new pipelines to export to shore . everything is happening at the correct pace. so, we are very confident that everything will be ok. >> oil has always proved to be a blessing and a curse. here on the impoverished fringes, some improvements are finally being made to people's lives. but what brazil does with the windowsill from the auction will be watching very closely here. from thehe windfall auction will be watching very closely here. >> will to come. infectious, isn't it? but is there a serious side to
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all this laughter? how it could be a window into the workings of the brain. there have been more migrant rescues in the mediterranean sea. the italian coast guard picked up 93 people off sicily and the u.s. navy pulled more than 100 off of a brass in rough conditions up the coast of malta -- off of a raft in rough conditions off the coast of malta. our reporter has been on board one of the boats patrolling. >> here on the bridge, a good sense of the area we are talking about. there you've got sicily, and here, the coast of tunisia, and there, libya. and that is tiny lampedusa island. and this coast guard letter is looking to intercept in this area boats loaded with migrants coming up mostly from lidia. >> in general, when we
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intercepted the ship, in general little fish -- fishing vessel of wood, the situation is dangerous. we take immediate action in boats nearep these to our ship. and we all migrants, take them on board our ship. >> when this coast guard vessel does find a boat packed with migrants in need of rescue, they will launch one of the day knees ys here.ase -- ding could be hundreds moving around in a chaotic way on a already sinking boat. the moment of rescue if sometimes the most dangerous.
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sometimes there could be a risk of a cap size, the risk of migrants spilling into the sea. here is hype of industrial activity for you, and it is all in china where the official gdp figures show the economy sped up of the third quarter. and the last the fourth quarter really plummets, the government will hit the growth target of 7.5% for the year. it will actually be the slowest since 1999, in the aftermath of the asian financial crisis. but some say it is uncanny how the government never really misses the mark. and we trust the chinese figures? our chief business correspondent investigates the mystery of god g data. >> numbers are important in china. and chinese numbers are important to a world relying on china's growth.
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but can we trust the numbers we are being given? a clamorite has caused in china. the national bureau of statistics of china has begun to name and shame local governments who fake economic data. over the past few months, a county in guangdong exaggerated industrial production by four times the actual value. ad on this webpage it says county in another province has declared double the amount of output that the companies were actually producing. those companies have come back to save the local governments made them do it. either way, one thing is clear -- dodgy data in china has now been officially acknowledged. unofficially, it has been talked about for a long time. accusations that some local governments inflate the numbers to please a capital hungry for good economic results. chris spaulding says
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growth might be half of what the government says. >> i think most figures in china should be taken with a large grain of salt. even in china, the chinese populace treats them more as art man science or reliable indicators of reality. patristics on construction, for example, might be over reported -- statistics on construction, for example, may be over reported or they could be financed by debt. -- the premier says he relies on indicators like the volume of goods shipped by train because he cap them independently. >> i don't think there are grounds to be suspicious. generally china's gdp figures are quite accurate, and it does reflect the true of the chinese economy. >> math and getting your numbers right are drilled into chinese students from an early age. not necessarily motivated by love of --
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why is it important to get your sums right? >> i'm scared of my mom, this eight year old tells me. fear theyorities may will be scolded by fearing beijing. but if the gdp numbers are not right, we are probably wrong about the scale of china's eestnet two, and that would be -- china's least that two, and that will be a huge miscalculation. >> linda. it is interesting they acknowledged there were miscalculations. it will be interesting to work out how bad the data is then? >> the professor that you saw on the package estimates for some provinces they could be as set -- exaggerating their output by 100%. if you look at last use figures for chinese gdp, if you look at what the local governments produce -- because that is where a lot of the problems come from
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-- let's just say the chinese economy would have been a huge amount larger, over 10%. i think it gives you an idea of some of the challenges that a country of this size has to face. obviously the rest of the world looks on every time these figures come out. how anxious should they be when they see ups or downs? is it so damaging potentially that it impacts the way we view it? >> i don't think the headline numbers is particularly important. the trend is important. but if you look behind the numbers, what actually goes into them -- for instance, how much of output in the factories make a retail sales, they came up the same time and they both showed growth rate of 10% or 13% respectively. that gives you an idea how much is being produced and how much is being consumed, which could be matched against things like cargo freight there are different ways to do it. but i suppose the main concern
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for the rest the world has got chinese economy has been exaggerated in the scale of that local government there would be larger than what the official ratios suggest. and if china were to have a debt crisis, the world's second- biggest economy would certainly have a big impact on the rest of us and the rest of the world, and that is why it is very important. that is why the central government right now is cracking down on data falsification. just one more thing, david -- if they want to increase confidence they might want to convince most of us it is possible to create gdp statistics and a figure just two weeks after the end of the quarter. no other country in the world can do that. >> oh, ye of little faith. thank you so much. perhaps the cutest things that baby do our laugh and sleep. that laughter could actually have a serious side as well. researchers at the university of london have launched an online survey of what makes babies
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laugh and smile. here's more. he's not even four months old, but dominick can't help but laugh at his dad who is tearing a piece of the paper for his entertainment. what do his chuckles tell us about the infant brain? researchers at the baby lab at the college of london are studying babies laughter to try to learn more on how our understanding of the world developed during the first few months of life. lawrence -- a doctor launched an online survey being completed around the world. he thinks what babies laugh at and tell us a lot about what they understand. >> laughter and smiles start incredibly early in life, which leads us to think that laughter is a form of communication, a way that a mother and a baby can sort of communicate with each
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other well before language appears. >> christina and will are some of the parents who filled in the survey. c and lois are seven months old. even though they are twins, they laugh at different things. >> the first time they smiled, they were five weeks old. in thethem together basket. they saw each other, and they really had a big smile on their face. lois is really smiling. serious,s a bit more but he will get there and he will have a little chuckle. they also laugh when you play peekaboo, and they really did go. >> across all ages and all the countries that we survey, peekaboo is by far and away the most favorite game. the absolute best combination of all the great things about laughter. first of all, there is a surprise. but it is a nice surprise. mommy is gone away and then,
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thank goodness, she's back. secondly, it is incredibly social. it is mommy, your favorite person in the world. >> domenic is just three and a bit months old. analyzingtor is still the survey results, but it is clear that developing a sense of humor is part of growing up. >> hard not to join in the laughter. you are watching bbc world news. >> make sense of international news at bbc.com/news. >> funding of this presentation is made possible by the freeman foundation, newman's own foundation, giving all profits to charity and pursuing the common good for over 30 years, and union bank.
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and foreign residents in japan are helping tourists get a deeper experience of the country and its way of life. the people in charge of the feek shoe ma daiichi nuclear plant have another challenge on their hands. tokyo electric power company officials say the leaks of the water are expanding. they detected a sharp rise of radioactivity in groundwater in a monitoring well. >> reporter: workers at fukushima daiichi seem to have a new challenge on their hands every day. more than 300 tons of contaminated water leaked out of a storage tank in august. and they've been dealing with the effects ever since. some of the water may have flowed out through a ditch and into the pacific ocean. workers dug a well about0 meters from the tank to monitor the impact.
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on thursday, they detected 400,000 becquerels per liter of straunt yum and other radioactive substances in the well. that's 6,500 times higher than readings taken the day before. they'd already detected high levels of radioactive treat yum. substances such as straunt yum are transferred relatively slowly. the people in charge of the plant believe the latest findings show that those materials, too, have reached the groundwater. fishermen worry about what the leaks might mean for them. the accident two years ago forced crews up and down the coast to stop working. starting in june of last year, those in northern fukushima headed back out onto the water
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to carry out test catches. and now fishermen have come out for test catches of their own. >> translator: we are 30% hopeful and 70% worried about >> they can only catch 16 kind of seafood, including octopus, and the local specialty round green eyes. they will test for radio activity. they've set their own safety limit, twice as strict as the government standard. if a sample does not meet their criteria, all of the species caught that day will be thrown
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out. but if all goes well, fishermen hope they'll be able to ship their catch to markets around the prefecture. nhk world. more rescue workers are headed to the scene of a disaster on an island south of tokyo. 23 people have been confirmed dead. crews are searching for 26 others who are missing. the typhoon brought torrential rain to the volcanic island on wednesday. the downpour caused landslides at several occasions. the mud and sand have blocked streams, raising the risk of flooding. 30 homes wer destroyed. more than 300 other buildings were damaged. workers are working around the clock. a transport ship is being sent to the island.
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