i think one whippings was too much, but she thinks three was not enough. come on, you really want to deal with the legacy of somebody who sold more records than anybody in the world and you want to reduce it down to his father and some whippings, come on, and you want me to preach at your funeral? you can do better than that, jimmy. >> my aunt chippy wouldake a wooden spoon and she would beat us with it, sometimes until the spoon broke. will you mention that at my funeral? i don't want her getting away with this. >> she gets equal time. >> no, she doesn't get equal time. only selected by you. i'm trusting you to carry out my eulogy for me and i think you're taking it a little bit lightly. >> well, what i'm saying i think all of us have had incidents when growing up that people can turn and twist any kind of way they want. what i was trying to do and i'm going to continue to do because i think michael deserves that is talk about what he did that we know that transformed the world rather than chasing around on

things we don't know in his private family life. i know that family has stood together, i know they took adversity and i think that's a compelling story and the rest of the stuff, anybody's family interactions i don't think we want that all to be public. that's not for michael jackson. >> but we can't let aunt chippy get away with it. when we come back, more with reverend al and zooey after this. i'm sorry... agen... spit out your stride gum and chew another piece, already! or we'll find you. got it. leave the ram. the ridiculously long lasting gum. stride sweet berry.

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oh, we're back. zooey deschanel and reverend al sharpton is here. jewel is on the way. did you watch the president's speech earlier? >> the press conference, yes. >> the press conference. what did you think about it? >> i think he did a good job. the healthcare problem in this country needs to be dealt with and i think it's a commitment he made when he was running. healthcare in this country, i mean, the mostndustrialized, the most in many ways technologically stable country in the world and we can't provide affordable healhcare to people i think it's absurd. >> it is absurd. and the president -- how many

times have you visited the president at the white house since -- >> i mean, we had one meeting in the oval office talking about education. he invited m of us and -- civil rights groups to the nomination when he announced for judge sotomayor. i have been there for a couple of times and i attended his speech at the naacp where he talked about the meeting we had with newt gingrich about education. >> i have a photograph from that meeting. here you are with president obama and newt gingrich. that's quite a threesome there. are you friendly with newt? >> it's funny, newt and i don't disagree with much, we probably won't agree that i was on your show tonight. but we do agree that the education gap in this country must be dealt with. >> he wants it to get wider? >> no. he wants to increase the level of educational opportunity. he wants to be -- to deal with the fact, look at detroit, where we have only a third of the

students getting a high school diploma. this is an american problem. the president talked about structural inequality. and what we're doing is trying to pull from conservatives and liberals to come together and say it's an american problem. when you have other nations producing more engineers and producing more people from an educational point of view, just strictly based on education than we are, there's a focus that needs to happen from all over the world and particularly in communities of color and poor communities where we're not getting the right balance. so we have asked people to really deal with this. i'm touring the country. in fact, secretary of education duncan and newt gingrich and i are going to do five cities together talking about the need for education. >> will you guys have the same tour bus when you trel around? >> well, we're not on concert tour. we haven't gotten to that, but clearly people can go to national action network, people can go on there and see the whole policy and follow where we're go

in fact, i have to say i'm tweaking now -- i'm on twitter. >> you're tweaking? no tweaking is when you're on methamphetamine. >> i'm not on meth. but i tweeted -- i'm on facebook. you can hit me on the net. facebook and twitter. i want to watch your movie -- what i said about you. see what i said about you. >> i would love that. >> hopefully you'll be marrying zooey. i'd like to bring you guys together. >> you love to bring people together. >> you brought oprah and snoop together, you're a great matchmaker. >> toure y go. al sharpton and zooey deschanel. we'll be right back with jewel. the price on the tag ! is the price you pay. get a 2009ontiac vibe for $13,708 after all offers. or get 0% apr for 60 months on most 2009 pontiac models!

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this is her new cd. it's called "lullaby". here with the song "somewhere over the rainbow", jewel. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ somewhere over the rainbow way up high ♪ ♪ there's a land that i heard of once in a lullaby ♪ ♪ some day i'll wish upon a star and wake up where the clouds are far behind me ♪ ♪ and troubles mount like lemon drops ♪

♪ way above the chimney tops that's where you'll find me ♪ ♪ somewhere over the rainbow skies are blue ♪ ♪ oh, where they dare to dream, where it will come true ♪ ♪ some day i'll wake and rub my eyes and beyond the skies you'll find me ♪ ♪ i'll realize and leave the

silly cares in the back of my mind behind me ♪ ♪ somewhere over the rainbow bluebirds fly ♪ ♪ oh, if birds can fly over the rainbow ♪ ♪ oh, why then why can't i if happy little bluebirds fly ♪ ♪ beyond the rainbow why, oh, why can't i ♪

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