tv Inside Washington ABC July 26, 2009 9:00am-9:30am EDT
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>> if you don't set deadlines in this town, things don't happen. >> this week on "inside washington," the senate misses the president's health-care deadline. in the house, the blue dogs have their day. >> we are speaking for a silent majority in the democratic caucus. the american people want us to slow down and get it right. >> the cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home. >> a distinguished harvard scholar arrested in his own home. was it stability, race, or a righteous bust? a controversial concealed weapons bill just misses in the senate. >> i consider the 58-vote majority in the senate a positive step and we will be back to take it to 60. >> the journalist was once the most trusted man in america dies at the age of 92. >> good evening, the cbs news
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control center. captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- >> well, despite the president's very definite which is that a health-care bill by august 7, senate majority leader harry reid says it will not happen. he says it is better to get a product based on quality and thoughtful less than to get something through. in the house, speaker pelosi says she is not afraid of august. it is just a month. in and ended with abc, the president tried to put the best face on it. >> given the progress i am seatmate, as long as everybody is working steadily, as fast as they can, and particularly the senate finance committee, which i think is the comttee that a lot of folks ar waiting for, -- if that gets done before the august recess, i feel good. >> the president says that if
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you do not set deadlines, things don't happen. but apparently, even if you do, things don't happen. where does health care go from here, mark? >> august is not fatal by any means. the idea that bill clinton past his tax bill before august, ronald reagan passed his. at the end of this august, but every estimate, there will be 430,000 americans who have lost their insurance in that month, probably another 600,000 have lost their jobs, too. the sense of urgency will still be with us. but i don't think there's any question that the white house, administration, and supporters feel that time gives the opposition a chance this night. -- a chance to snipe. the president did not have a great week. the press conference took all the air out of the room.
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encyclopedic it does, too long, like this one. [laughter] no energy. >> i don't think it was as bad a week as a lot of people think. i think that winning the f-22 vote was significant. i think it is unfortunate that they could not get a bill done, at least out of the house and senate, by august. we might make some of the plant at the feet of the chairmen of the senate finance committee, as well as the president. but i think a president, when they come back, or even over the break, is going to have to knock some heads together so that come september, there is a bill. >> charles? >> the problem is that this week, rhetoric met reality. the president held a press conferen in which he speaks for an hour and he promises us more coverage, expanded coverage, secure coverage, lifetime coverage, cannot ever deny you coverage, and no cost.
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a couple of millionaires will pay an extra surtax. it is obviously impossible. the numbers don't add up. the cbo had a fatal blow when it said that it would cost $1 trilln. that is the problem that no one can solve, and until it is soft, there will not be anything near a bill. >> colby? >> far be it from me to take all the joy out of what charles just said, but i think by the end of the year, you'll get something. why do i say that? you have a five committee chairmen still trying to produce a bill. it is the nature of things to all the key issues start to come to a head. now have to deal with the hard part, the cost question. easing the cost curve is going to be difficult. the thing is that there will be a huge backlash against the congress. if they feel this is something about health care this year. they know that.
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that is why they are working. even some of the major things that industry groups are behind some form of health care reform. >> but he is having trouble not only with republicans, but democrats. >> but the blue dogs are right that if you do not do something about cost and the way we structured medical care, to have guidelines so that the doctors cannot pre -- cannot prescribe tests endlessly and buy new equipment all the time, if you do not do something about the way restructure medical care, there's not enough money in the united states of america to pay for it as the years go out. -- >> 5 out of six americans have helped coverage. three out of four of them, according to survey after survey, are satisfied rather than dissatisfied with the health coverage. what you have got to do is convince those people not only
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that we have to cover the uninsured, but that is going to be an improved system, and that they are not going to be broken by it. i think that where the president -- i think he has been trapped by the cbo numbers. he has to make a case that this is not just with him in the green eyeshade members of the government, but it is the economy. healthcare is killing the economy. it is not just knocking the budget. that is the case he has to make. but quite honestly, it is up to the president to do it, and i think he missed a golden opportunity this week. >> the president argues that healthcare is killing the economy, and he is right in that. absolutely right. and then he proposes health care reform that the cbo is telling us is going to add $1 trillion. you do not cut costs by adding $1 trillion. that is the central contradiction. all of tactical stuff is irrelevant. and the problem is that in order
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to do that, even if you make it revenue neutral, as oba has spoken about, it does not solve the problem. if health care is destroying our economy because of its costs, revenue neutrality leads us on the same trajectory into insolvency, which obama himself has said is going on. >> only the no-nothings are arguing for the status quo. what you have now -- > >> i have ideas. >> even the fiscally conservative blue dots are trying to save their peace. they want medicare to be handled by the congress so that they can get for their rural constituents. everybody wants a piece of the action. it will happen by the end of the year. in past two. >> my problem with looking at the budget is that it is the
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classic example of knowing the price of everything and the value of nothing. if you look at what we spend on public education and just say it is a loser -- it is an investment in our economy and our people and pays handsome dividends. >> let me give you an index of how unserious the reform is. the president spoke for an hour. did you hear one word on a tour reform? everybody here knows that we are paying exorbitant amounts because of the completely insane malpractice system. ana resurgent opens an office in philadelphia and has to pay about -- neurosurgeon opens an office in philadelphia and have to pay about $200,000 a year in insurance alone. it is taking it away from innocent to prevent the lawsuit. it is wasted because of this system. why don't democrats speak about it? because the trial lawyers out of them. -- own them.
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>> i believe that sergeant kelly acted in a way that is consistent with his training. i do not believe his actions in anywhere racially motivated. >> there is a long history in this country of african- americans and latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately. that does not lessen the incredible progress that has been made. i am standing here as testimony
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to the progress that has been made. >> you can buy t-shirts i cambridge, massachusetts, that's a "the world's most opinionated and zip code." everybody has an opinion about what happened in the home of the nation's most famous black scholar. but it is a rear of that an american president takes time off from an important news conference to talk about an arrest that occurred 440 miles from the white house. nevertheless, the president did it, nina. >> it was probably stupid to use the word "stupidly." i don't know what he did that, and to this day, having read the police report even, i don't understand why the officer felt compelled to arrest professor gates, even if he was doing everything that the police report said he was doing. you have the right to act like a jerk in your own home. when he found out he wasot breathing in his house, why
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didn't they just leave? >> they did drop the charges against him. >> they drop the charges because they could not prove it. that is why they dropped it. i read the police report, and the statement issued by professor gates' lawyer, charles ogletree, and it seems to me that once they establish that professor gates was in fact the occupant of the home, that was the time to the police officer to say, "ok, thank you," and leave the premises. professor gates, in my view, committed the sithat has affected african-american males since their arrival on the shore -- he made the mistake of getting uppity. -- getting uppity with that white man. when you get uppity, they punish you for it. if he had said, "sir, may i
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please have your badge, number and name," he may have gotten it. i believe that professor gates did ask for it and i believe that he also said things to the police officer about the police officer's mama that upset him. >> the police officer has a good record. >> he does not have to be a racist to have himself acted -- >> i am not applying that r- word to what he did. i'm just saying that the dynamic in fall, that you are upset in your own home -- you have a right to act like a fool, as nina said, in your own home. why do i have to behave in front of a police officer in my own home? how you become disorderly in your own home? >> i have been disorderly in my home. look, everything that colby said
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-- i believe that this and that happened -- the fact is that everybody believes action might happen but nobody knows. we were not in the room. nobody will ever know. three people were in the room. there is a hispanic officer who seems to suppo the evidence of a white officer. >> the blue code. >> well, that is what you think, but you don't know it. >> if we had to just say what we know on this show, we would be unemployed. >> but when we are -- unlike us, who get cash for opinions without knowledge, the president's opinions have an effect on the country. we can go off on stuff that we do not know. he cannot and he should not. >> i think the president stepped on his own story. 57 minutes on health care, this urgent, primary issue, and what dominates the news? the gates of affair.
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the police offir's name is james crowley and he teaches racial profiling to black and white officers and has been retained by black officers to teach racial profilg. the cambridge police department, according to northeastern criminologists, has one of the best record in dealing. he is not sheriff jim clark. this is not bull connor. did he lose his temper when pushed and be rated by gates? i think that is a distinct possibility of a si. this is about power. this is a powerful person -- >> which is the powerful person? >> gates is that powerful person.
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>> i thought the person with a gun is the powerful person. >> anyone who has been in that position -- >> he got uppity with him -- >> have you had anybody say to you, "do you know who i am a?" that is enough to send anybody off. >> so have i been called up and put in my place when i had the temerity to act like i had some sense. >> if this had been a black officer would it have been different? >> it had been a black officer, this would not happen. the way that officer walked into the house, the way he inserted himself, it begs for the kind of response he died. you know, i know it. as bob dole said, "you know, i know it." >> police have enormous power and they do not like getting
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challenge, but they should be traded up to deal with it. >> there was a report of two people try to knock down a core -- knock down the door without a key, the police officer shows up on the -- >> but when he establishes a that he lives there, he should leave. >> but then he follows him out and berates him -- >> this means timeout. thank you.
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would be tough to beat this. >> mayor michael bloomberg. the senate came within two votes of passing senator john thune's bill to allow hunters to carry guns across state lines. 58-39. 20 democrats voted for it. this comes on the heels of the nation rifle association victory a couple of months ago which allow gun owners to carry concealed weapons in national parks. according to the brady campaign, in 2004, and gets murdered 73 people in the united kingdom and 11,344 people in the united states. we have a lot of people in the united states. >> and in britain, all of them die of bad teeth. [laughter] this will surprise you, but i would have voted against this. our gun culture is totally out of control. if you have a gun, don't travel.
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if you onto hang out in a bar in xas and use it, that is ok. but each state has its own conditions. urban states want less guns. you could be attacked by a moose, you never know, but it is not going to happen in manhattan. let's respect states' rights, federalism, and not impose on them a unified system. >> if you are in congress and you do not have a gun and no one in trouble, don't mess with the nra. >> this is a pretty graven abode. this was a setup. senate john thune was reduced to arguing for the rights of truckers. it was a set up to be used in campaigns so that democrats are forced to walk the plank. i'm glad that a few of them were willing to. the sotomayor vote was a bit the same. >> the nra is targeting people -- >> the nra did not initially
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come out against her. they said they were concerned. there s nothing new in the hearings. but it was getting pushed by its former president and but the gun owners of america, who did come out against her. they're getting pushed hard for not being aggressive and up. now, they are not only opposing are, but they are scoring the vote, meaning they will use that as a key vote in telling voters that this is a guy or woman you should support or not. >> indiana is the most revealing vote in this entire debate. evan bayh, erstwhile democratic candidate for president, voted with the gun folks in the n, and richard lugar, former chair of the foreign relations committee, was one of two republicans who opposed it. michaelloomberg, the mayor of new york, put his finger on it. if you really what a gun and you believe in this vote, and let
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them carry one in the dirksen senate office building and see how our courageous ones. to that when all the shows up with a pistol in his knapsack. >> after hearing all that, i ought to be on the other side. >> the nra will come up with something else and they will get the votes they won. this is a test vote. just like the air, they are with us.
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the chemotherapy he needs. if we don't act, health care costs will rise 70%. and he'll have to cut benefits for his employees. but we can act. the president and congress have a plan to lower your costs and stop denials for pre-existing conditions. it's time to act. >> i just feel so terrible about walter's death that i can hardly say anything. he has been such a good friend over the years. >> andy rooney of "60 minutes." they met in london, both young reporters going on bombing raids during world war ii. he seemed like such an ordinary guy.
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why would see such a powerful fixture in american journalism? >> i think because he presided over and connected us in the great dramatic and glorious moments of that time it. for the first time in american history beginning with the kennedy assassination and with the moon shot, he was a sense of community in the continental nation. he was the one who did it and that is why he remains so strongly in our memory. >> he had a program called "you are there," about the big historical events. that is what he did for all of us. in real life, we were there with him. >> he put us there. >> he put us there and kept us there but did not do as an advocate, and that is what made him stand out from all the rest. he did it right. >> he was the gold standard. i salute him for that. he was a reporter first.
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