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>> it for us to solve this problem, everybody including the wealthiest americanns and bibiggest corporations, have to pay their fair share in them this week on "inside washington" isresident oma which cost more fair? >> i did not believe class warfare is leadership. >> this is not cause warfare, it is math. >> another debate. >> this is not t first time he has been wrongg on issues before. >> at the u. n, lestian appeal f for statehoodut president obamama standing with israel. a position of principle or
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politics? after 18 years the mililitary don't ask, don't tell policy iss historyor. >> i am m in the unid states -- i am a u united state mararine, and i am a lesan. >> president obama this week apparently got the message. there will be no grand bargain with republicans especially republicans in the house so on monday he came up with a plan guaranteed to fail. it had the most hated wds i in the republican vocabulary, gher taxes. >> it is unthinkable in america that a teacher or construction woer who earns $50,000 should pay hihigher tax res for -- compared to somne making $50 million. >> the president c calle for infrastructure projects appear
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to make his point he traveled to the home ate of john boehner, and spoke at a bridge thatat connects to the home state of mitch monnellll. >> helelp us rebuild america. help us put construction workers back to work. pass this bill. >> there is the president's inner nick -- channeling his inner reagan. the president says he will veto any deficit-reduction plan that does not include new sources of revenue. other republicans say the president is waging class warfare. is that what he is doing? >> he is right the rich are getting too rich, the poor are getting to port. my heart sank here. ju what we need, more partisanship. washington has become the fulfillment of what the voters think it is, politics and nothing else. >> nina, class warfare? >> this is a policyy difference and it is an election year. this president will not be
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reelected unless he can define himself in a way that voters will approve. at the moment, they are not approving of his performance so he has to do something different. he has to go back to your old obama, or more harry truman. >> charles? >> it certainly is in the policy. he pretends he has a jobs plan and a debt plan, but you could tax warren buffett o on t what, confiscate everything you want, everything that every billionaire in america owns. it will not make a dent on the debt or jobs.. it is about differences between liberals and conservativesivn taxation, but that is not the issue on hand. he pretend the republicans are doing politics and he is doing policy to help jobs. this will have no o effect on jobs. everyone knows it. it is a campaign speech. >>ncome inequality in the
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united states is greater than any time in the past 80 years before the great d depression. >> the past decade, o of the top 10%, they have received 90% of the increased wealth. quite frankly that does suggest a disparity, widening of the gulf between the very few are very well-ofoff. when youave 13,000 millionaires in this country paying taxes at a rate of 4.6%, it is unjust and unacceptable that firefighters and nurses and teachers and gunnery sgt pay taxes at a higher rate than do these hedge funds and interest guys. that is what the president is talking about. his remarks understand, were preceded by an unequivocal statement by the republican speaker of the house that rerevenue increasesax creases, would not be considered by t the republican
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house. that left the president with no alternative but to make his case. >> mark is doing exactly what the president is doing having an election on the question of equality. the pretensese is that obama is actually trying to do something about unemployment, which is killing so many people of america. this would do nothing for unemployment. you could transfer all the wealthy one out of the handsf the billionaires' and millionaires and put it in the hands of others. if you do not create enterprise and jobs and economic growth, you are notote to put a dent in unemployment, you are not going to help jobs, and y will do nothing on the debt. >> i was not so bothered by let's tax the rich. he is right about that. but he is giving up about entitlement reform. he is throwing out a way. they are a series of it -- any more about medicare and social security. you cannot solve the problems in our country unless you go after
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those issues. instead of exercising leadership on those issues and getting a mandate from the public, he is playing pitics. politics is all timing. there was a moment, i think when john boehner and the president looks like they have the broad outlines of a deal. john boehner backed away from it, then the president did. as the months wore on. that time is gone for the moment until after the next presidential election. >> we now have 50 million americans living in poverty. nearlyly one out of four american children. the median income in the country since bill clinton left office h has gone down. this is not just the rich have it rich, poor -- this is a decline. the president is talking about saving and creing jobs. that is what that bridge is about. >> infrastructure. >> yes, and hiring teachers that will be laid off. >> look at what happened to wall
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street this week. how do you like your the 401k now, how about europe? the housing industry? >> the larger issue here is not rich and poor. it is national d decline. that is what people are afraid of. the reason why our economy is really in trouble overer the long term is people have a sense that we are in period of national decline. we need a leader that deals with that issue above all else. >> people are afraid to spend money. they are putting the money under the mattress or into cd's i have no interest in. >> we do not know enough about theories of economics -- nothing ever worked precisely as they hoped but we know that the stimulus plan worked. perhaps not as well as they would have liked to, but because we did that go into free-fall was because of the stimulus plan.
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economists of every variety say that. >> but those arere band-aids that only work a little. everybody ha a sense there are deeper issues at stake here than more government spending, although it will help a little bit, will not solve the basic problem. they are looking for leaders who will go after those. >> some of the problems are in europe and we do not have much control are those, do we? >> yes but europe's problem is the same as ours. we have these huge welfare states that we have not figured ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ multiple sounds making melodic tune ] ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] at northrop grumman, every innovation every solution comes together for a single purpose --
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against it. we will wait until tomorrow and see which mitt romney we are really talking to tonight. >> governor r romney? >> i will use the same term again, nice try. >> mitt romney has had a couple of good debates for the presidential nomination. thursday night and went at it again. do we have a winner in this one? mark? >> i think mitt romney probably came out ahead. rick perry choseshows the problem. he is such a untraditional candidate. he came into the race late. it just plunged in and was immediately the front runner of the race. ordinarily candidates have a chance to try out their speeches, talking points at rotary club, and before yo bring it to broadway. he plunged into broadway.
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you could see he was not prepared for the spotlight. >> you can even see with mitt romney, so much of a better candidate this time than he was last time. this is not for novices. this game is tough going. >> he has a srit years ago of running against ted kennedy ran for governor of massachusetts which is not easy. he has been there, as you say. >> romney looked sharper than perry. perryville looked a little dumb. but what the wise guys in washington think is notot necessarily what large numbers of voters think. i am a little leery about these judgments that are already saying that perry is clueless and -- there is something about running that is unappealing. >> are you suggesting primary voters are not listening to people like us? > that is exactly what i am saying. >> we should never admit that.
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i think what has been said is correct. romney is polished. in the end republicans are going to have to decide whether they want authenticity or electability. that is where -- it often is a choice. democrats have had in the past with howard dean. you often have to c come down and say which way would you go? the guy that you can rely on ideolocally or the guy that had the better chance of winning? i would invoke the buckley rule. he said i always vote for the most conservative candidate who can win. in 1980, ronald reagan had to make a threshold is he acceptable, can you live with this guy? he had been demonized in the past as radical -- radical ideologue, he was accepted, he wins. obama will be relatively weak. high unemployment. that will be the threshold for
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the question of any republican. is he electable? does he meethe threshold that independence and disaffected democrats would accept? so far i think romney is dng that. >> anyone who doubts the republican party is a far more conservativenstitution that was when george w. bush ran and won in 2000 and 2004, the evidence last night was abundant. here is rick perry, governor of texas, has a program that if you are the child of undocumented immigrants who come to this country, you grow up in the nine states, go to 12 years of school compile a good academic record, and then you can go to the university of texas system as an in-state resident. he is attacked, vilified, condemned by every other republican. there is no compassionate republican on that stage other than rick perr mitt romney was born with an entire silver service in his
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mouth. attacking him for giving a $100,000 scholarship to a kid who's worked his way throu school? you want to see republicans at their core, that was a defining moment be done a suffolk university poll gives from a commanding lelead. es not really much mea -- mean much at this point does it? >> polls are a snapshot. snapshots' only frees the moment. the moment can change in politics, as we all know, in a matter of days, and it has often in new hampshire. >> i predictable not change that much in new hampshire. running is known, the former governor of a neighboring state. either it will be his state or he wl be gone. >> and one of this six homes is in new hampshire, 2. >> t's say he wins in new hampshire. can he carry that to south carolinana, florida?
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>> perry is not getting many moments in these debates, but it is only october. there is time. there will be m more attention paid to it. it is totoo soon to tell. >> south carolina, i think romney is actually very close to perry. >> just about nomenclature, an undocumented immigrants a legal immigranant who lost his green card in a cab. an illegal immigrant is someone who never had documents because they came in a legally. there is a difference. >> i do not think any human bei should be denigrated as a legal. >> is a description of their legal status. >> the highlight of the ente day was when michele bachmann was asked how manyollars -- of every dollar i earn, how many should i be able to keep? she sa you have earned every dollar, you should be able to keep every dollar you make. could buy united states military, air traffic control
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i cannot get the special new york election out of my mind. i wonder if it was principal or politics? >> i do not think any american president can fail to veto a resolution lik this. that is the nature of our politics. if i were god would that be the way it is, probably not. abbas has done something very true he. he hasypassed us and has managed to make himselelf a big playayer. he has ticked off of us and hamas. i think the united states cannot be the kind of playethat has traditionay been in the past because we do not have that kind of leverage to make things happen in israel any more. >> it is also true obama and the white house are looking at some bad numbers in florida, new york, and there isis a big e element of politics in this pit of there
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is no element of politics in this. no president at no time in any cycle would have supported palestinian statehood. the reason is this. for 18 years american policy in the middle east was premised on the principle of land return for peace. what the palestinians are doing are going unilalaterally to get land sovereignty their state without getting peace. that is the whole object of this exercise. it undermines the entire idea starting with sadat in 1979, returning land for peace. unless the united states makeses it a statement if you want to have sovereignty independence and dignity you have to make peace with the israelis and accept an israeli state and end the conflict, unless america establishes and sticks to the principle, the entire peace process is torn up.
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that is why any president would have to exercise a veto over this.. >> no politics? >> the arab spring has completely changed the calculus in the middle east. first of all thhe most reliable protector of israel in the arab world, the mubarak regime in egypt, is gone. the status quo is totally over. ththe unitited states sees itself reduced to a role far less relevant as a consequence of the iraqi war and our uncritical support of israel. in israel is increasingly isolated. the two-state solution becomes so imperative. otherwise,e, if you carare aboutut israel, it has today a one-state solution, and it will not be a pretty place to be. the realitity of unlimited settlements unchecked settlements, encouraged
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settlements by the netanyah administraration has led to where we are today. let me finish. the first time the palestinians have been excxcited about their own future since the oslo accords, which i know charles did not endorse. >> of the reasonor the stalemate is settlements and in an yahoo! government and look food then why three months before he came into government there was an article in the "new yorkrk times" about ehud olmert describing conrsations he had with president abbas parity offer the west bank, a division of jerusalem a capital in jerusalem, aalestinian state of independence. president abbas walked away. how do you explain that? >> i believe he was wrong. >> explain to me why he was wrong. >> what was the former prime
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minister's recommendation? in that piece -- did you just want to forget it? did you want to leave it out? he said you have to negotiate a two-state settlement or the consequences for israel are dire. >> he did exact that and was rejecteded a happened here in washington 10 years later. explain to me why president abbas walked down if settlements are the issue? >>
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>> these are men and women who put their lives on the line for the defense of this country. that is what should matter the most >> defense secretary leon panetta on the subject of don't ask, don't tell. es and lesbians now have a right to force -- gays and lesbians now have a right to serve in the armed forces. >> it shows the military's
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ability to get with the program. they did it on civil rights. the military became the best ace foror civil rights after the resistance. th same thing here. a lot of people do not like it, they salute, life goes on, do you will be done. >> it is also generational. armies are essentially young. that generation cannot understand how the old rules would have applied. that is how change comes. it will change in the country entirely as the older generation withers away. gay marrrriage will become institutionalized and accepted and people will wonder, in 20 years, whatt was the issue? it is reflected in the military. >> there is a lot of literature novels plays in which the expulsion of gays in the military comes up. it is alwayays a tragigic occurrence. here we have young people who ar putting their lives on the line. it is just that they should not be purged for their private
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lives. >> >>to the united states military is thehe best example of racial nondiscrimination in our society. that has been where one is prpromoted on the basis of one's marrge, not discrimination. in that tration thank goodness leon panetta was there someone who had worn the uniform himself as an army officer.
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