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captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- >> now is not my time. i have a commitmt to new jersey that i simply will not abandon. >> thiweek, chris christie says no go and sarah palin is no show. how will it change the 2012 race for the white house? >> i wouldike eric cantor to come down here to dallas and say what exactly is in this jobs bill that he does not bieve in. >> president bush's is jobs plan and takes aim at his opponents by nam-- the president pushes his jobs plan. >> people are angry. >> anger over the economy sparked demonstrations as we observe another anniversary in the afghanistan war. >> i don't see this war bng
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one or loss in the next severaler year i thk it will continue. >> welcome to "inside washington." i'm mark shields. gordon peterson has the week off. this week new jerersey gov. chris christie went from an objbject to tense republican n desire to e big one that got away. >> the people sen me to trenton to get a job done and i am just not prepared to walk away. i know not everyone agrees with my decision. but my loyalty to this state is what i is. >> chris do not -chris christiead company, sarah palin. how does this do well's for wall change things fofor the 22 race? charles krauthammer
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i do not think there was any chancef chris christie coming in. he came out o of the only conclusion he could have. had he run, he would not have one, he would have lost an been diminished and could not gone home this home state. so it made no sense. palin, i tink, has never beeeen serious about running for the presidency. and it would n not have m made sense for her, either. i think the field is what it is and people who are on the inside i think never expected anything really different. >> hoeven does it help? >> i am not saying anything that not t have been said -- it obviously helps mom. and also for some reason it helpedain as well. it helps mitt romney because he is the person who can carry the banner. that is the way it looks. now, pry raised $70 million in the firsquarter and it kept him -- the political -- $17
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million in the first quarter. but he has to be a better candidate and at the mont he has not shown he n be a better candidate except to raise money and it is not enough. >> i think with the two of them dropping out it does affect the race in this way -- people sitting on the sidelines holding eir money now realize thehey are no to considered, so the money race is on. i do not think it fair to say gov. gary is out of this -- go rick perry is outf this. it itwo-person. this week and you had perry going into iowa and gettin blasted by mitt romney ads attacking him on immigration. you had perry aacking rummymy's environmental record and you will see the a attacks takg ace increasingly over the next veral wks as a busload of e c changing of the republilican primaries scheduled. >> i agree it a mistake.
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i noticed the smart guyare already writinoff perry. it does not seem right. he is enormously attractive to a lot of peoplple --aybe not to the know it all people of the press. it will be a long and ugly fight and he will have money, even though mitt romney will have more money but rick perry will have enougho keep it going. >> let me speak on behalf of thnote it alls -- know itt alls in the press. he lost half of his support. and his only explanation is the performance in the debate. i do not think he had been out there anywre else where he would have had an impact. it is interesting that the debates, they also account for the rise of cain. no other explanation. it is teresting that so early on debates with 9 people on the states have had such an impact.
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>> what really is interesting -- toook at romney, compared to the romney we saw four years ago he is a superb candidate. i agree he is bloodless. that is his problem in a general election. but you see the republin constituency going -- it is the flavor of the week. ey don't really like him. ey don't trust them. and they want somebody else and thats what it is all about. michele bachmann, cain, rick perry. maybe rick perry can come back. i am not raising anybody off. >> r republicans of th yeear are behaving like democrats. democrats have to be emotional. they have to get glandular before the support somebody -- whether it is s obama. more emotional. they have to love their candidate. republicans accept bob dole, george bush the first. but this time, watching the feverish pursuit of chris
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christie by sensible republicans in practical shoes they were like teeboppers, like justin bieber fans. >> that is why they are not happy with the field. romney is acceptable but he does nonot turn them on. rick perry, on the other hand, does have an exciting days.s. -- base. will romney go well in the next six or seven weeks, or t or three months. that is a big question. can he sustain thi >> hee has been amazingly discipline, mitt rney has, and he has run a good campaign. error-free balls. but i stilthink that pererry is a ptean force. he is likable two and awful lot of people. and in this time in which we are living where passions are
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running and the fear is great, a demagogue has a chance. >> let me buy into your hypothetical that democrats have to get glandular and republicans never did before. i think it is partly true but i am not sure even when clinton and obama were going at eachh other, exceptor the 3:00 in the morning and hing a vicious attack ads of this early inside the party strikes me that this of a party that is not really usesed to doing g this. i don't know how it affects theirrospects. >> one exception to the shields glandular pieces, is kerry i did not remember anybody particularly hormonal l about him. and he lost. i think on the repupublican side, that is the story. mitt romomney as the man who once the lastan standing. he is the one i i thi in the end
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will be considered acceptable just a conservative enough. but it is early. so, if you are energized as republicans are, over obama, you do not want to setettle early on conservative enough. you want somebody rereally conservative. that is why you have the rotating days -- bachmann, perry, cain. >> speed dating. >> president obama appeals for ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ multiple sounds making melodic tune ] ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] at northrop grumman, every innovation every solution comes together for a single purpose -- to make the world a safer place. that's the value of performance. northrop grumman.
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the plan is going to be paid for by increasing taxes on the wealthy. how do you think -- did he think republicans would react to the idea? >> i assssume he thought they wod reject it because that is what t they are d doing. but the proem the president has with his jobs plan goes beyond eric cantor and the republicans and house of representatives. land today could not pass the united states senate. he doesn't have the votes for it. earlier this week, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell proposed to have an up and down vote on the plan, and harry reid, the majority leader wisely with andrew that opportunity because the bill would have failed in the senate. it not just because of reblican opposition. he doesn't have enough democrats. >> hdoes not do it. he does not do it with his own people. >> he has a lot of work to do.
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i understand the political ararguments, but it is not at all this was of limited to the house of representntatives. >> well the president that the record on consultiting democrats when he put something forward is not a good one. however, turning to the question at hand which is, is more to do this -- yes, it is smart to do this. the republicans are about to go into full campaign me. he got nowre. >> about to? >> he got nowhere being reasonable and responsible and now if he wants to keep this job be better act a little bit more like a partisan. >> charles, on friday morning we learned of the unemployment rate remained at 9.1% despite 103,000 jobs created in september. >> the 100,000 jobs is not really a lot to cheer. better than expected but yo need about auarter of a million to stayp with increasing population. it shows that either
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unemployme willl continue to increase or it will be flat. so, i think is a candidate -- whicobama is right now -- he is looking at a landscape in whh nextear will be running at 9% unemployment and d nobody has been reelected at anything over 7.8% except fdr. he is inull campaign mode. at the hypocrisy is remarkable because in onone of his speeches he said we need action right now because the country can't wait a year and two months to get action. he proposed a bill that he knows has no chance of becoming law. he knows that the democrats in the senate will reject. he knows it is not going to have an effect on the economy. it iss entirely campaigning and he has ended the governing stage of his first term and all in campaign mode and thing else. >> his lucky of unemployment is 9%. talking about the ruling while rome burns -- politicians all
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over the west are fiddling while the global burns, and it is happening in europe and here. ere an unbelievab disconnect between the absolute lack of political will to get anythingng done -- and i am including europe -- and this title wave that is just about to drowown all of us. >> one example is the bourbon -- and many peoe and the country -- railing against citibank over a $5 surcharge on a card swipe it is a bank of america? and urging a run. it should be a run on bank of america and not on citibank. at a time the economy is about to end the -- implode, europe as on the brink. they are simply not facing at all the magnitude. >> banks really are not an object of much sympay. >> a $5 surcharge is not whatt e american economy hangs on. >> but not exactly for the one island of prosperity in a sea of
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misery. >> let's set the record straight on the polital campaigning. it i is happening on both sides. the effort to defea back obama started two and a hf years ago a and has been sustained. and oba, yes, is inampan mode but the question is whether he has gotten to the mode to late. >> president of the united states. he had aebt commission st year which he ignored. he had a bget he submitted this year that was left o of his own democratic senate -- 97- 0. he has not governed at all. >> like israel and palestine it is your fault, no, it is your fault. then i wanted to say i do not think it is quite equal. i do not think the history is quite equal. the whole performance over the raising of the debt limit was so disgustingand it was mainly due that one was mainly on the
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republican side. anand it really did -- >> the approval rating of the congress is at an all-time low. 14%. >> obama d try to do t right thing then. but after dropping the ball -- he dropped the ball the commission, thenen on the state of the uni he consistently dropped the b ball and when push came to shove he was a really bad politician and failed to bring it home. there is blame on everybody. >> demonstrators take
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"network" made the phrase famous them as raters have turneout ross ameica to declare the are mad as hell and n what -- going to take it anymore. what they are mad about is t clear -- but they held signs ranging from anger at banks and raise at the plight of the american middle class. how significant is it? >> in a sociological sense it is significanant. this is sort of the tea a party of the left. but they don't know what they want. and organized labor has joined in certainly -- politicalallyly the have more clout. you have to have something you want. a spific thing or two that you wantnd there is no consensus. >> i wouldld just point t out that the tea party began with rick santelli, a fancicial support -- reporter in chicago who said how many people want to pay for your neighbor's mortgage that have an extra babathroom and cannot pay
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their bills. that was the give me l liberty or give me death. not all movements began with a specific itemize t agenda. >> this is a goofy kids making -- banging on drums and easy to dismiss. but to me it is a fire e bell in the night. it is significantnt thing. it may or may not turn out as the tea party to the left but what may signal is you will have civil unrest. as the politicians who are around and do nothing -- it is not that people will just go home and wait to die. ther i is going to be real unrest. it is happening in greece e but, to our shores. we are o the verge of a 1960 that a kind of period of tremendous instability. >> the difference between this and the tea party is these people have admittedly no idea what they want. whereas the tetea party, reputedly the to list proletariat -- toothless proletarian an underclass -- this is how they
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were covered all in a "the new york times" the first year as an ignorant peasantry, they had an idea. . smaller government, less regulation and low taxes. you can disagree but it is an idea. unlike the indignant indolence on the streets on wall street carrying around their ipod, weing their nike shoes and wearing their designer levis whe protecting corporate america. ma'am of all movement, protest movements, start with a grievance -- >> all movent, protest movement, start with a grievance.e. >> what are their grievances queson and give me one. >> several grievances -- lack of jobs, r one -- that th think wall street has benefited but main street ss not, they can't find work. you name it -- >> the rich get richeher. it class warfare. >> coalescing into somomething greater. we are at the e early stages of
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th but to make it as a bunch o of hippies out there -- it is a sound bite but not the reality. >> it is remembering his starkly as the are really in some ways saved capitalism because there was an enormous unrest in the depths of the depression. it could have turned into real violence, it could have turned into a genuinely socialist state and even communism. there was a threat are real and doing >> you've got median family incocome dropping inin this coutry as dramatically as it has in the past dece, you are going to get on rest. >> the people out there are not the unemployed steelworkers of pittsburgh. take a look at them. take a look at them. >> charles, did not stereotype any more than they steotype tea party people. this is an eclectic and -- eclectic group. >> some are children of those with jobobs in jeopardy. >>ast word -- freight rail delivered
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>> this is wre they are bringing weapons where they are bringing drugs and money. all through here -- here down the border. we are here to make it harder for them. >> that is army specialist anthony cook from floda explaining hisission 10 years after u.s. forces entered the troubled country t to topple the television -- taliban. troops are scheduled to lve by the end of 2014. how will history jududge did this operation? >> as a tragedy that was inevitable. once you had 9/11, the united states, the great giant, was going to go stomp on somebody haed one of the first place as theytopped was afghanistan. once t they are in, we can't get out. . i think we need to get out. but once you go in we just got stuck there. i see it not so much as anything
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other than a tragedy inevitabable. >> charles how can you nation build a country where you got 72% of afghans over age of 16 is illiterate and the second highest and the mortalit rate? >> you can't. that is the lesson of the afghan war. evan's implication was somehow we waanted to show our manliness by attacking ahanistan. it was an act of self-defense. al qaeda was active in there and it planned out of there and we smashed them and disperse them. we had remarkable success against al qaeda. the problem is when you toppling government you have to replace it. we did well in japan germany her places in a place like afghanistan the is not a nation. anand in the first couple of years it was quiet til about 2005 or 202006 and then the taliban return. i think it is a question -- i an not sure it iour
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responsility but >>0% of afghan revenues come from foreign aid. >> and the rest of the comes from poppies, the poppy fields. the problem was, it was not inevitable. we went into afghanistan to go after al-qaeda. the source of the 9/11. and we went in there and we had to disrupt the taliban but we didn't have tuesday. because it is not a matter of saving a government. there was no government toave. our objective expanded by choice. but we did not have to do that. >> but we also took our e off the ball and went into iraq. i don't have any idea what would have hpened if we really concentrated three or four years there and got out. that would have been what i would have thought we should have done. d i think it is a tragedy and to many youngives are being lost. >> there is never a cle choice.
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