>> the third agency of a government i would do away with -- education the -- commerce and at less see. i can't. sorry. oops.. th week on "inside washington," the brain freeze heard round the world. >> i said, "what are you doing? >> i don't even know who this woman is. >> herman cain fights more allegations of sexual harassment. >> when you get beat, you have to admit it and congratulate the folks. >> ohio voters also repudiate the health care mandate. in italy, the bill comes due f la dolceita. >> joe paterno is no lger the head football coach effective immediately.

captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- >> i think is fair to say that debating is not a perry's strong suit. i don't think i'm being crueler here. at wednesday night passed a republican debate in michigan he says at he will eliminate three departments. >> commerce, education, d what's the third one? [laughter] >> five. >> ok. commerce education, and the -- >> epa? >> there you go. [laughter] [applause] >> seriously? is epa the one you are talking about? >> no, sir.

talking about agenencies of government. >> you cannot name the third one? >> no, he could interpret it was the department energy, the elimination -- now, he couldn't. it was the department of energy the elimination of which is a centerpiece of his campaign. thoose of a certain agage can sympathize -- i do. >> it is hard to recover from that. he waent on a one-date tour including a letterman, include to take the sting ou of it. there is an axiom in washington that and if and only counts if it reinforces -- an event only counts of it reinforces an existing stereotypes. the stereotype that he is s an intellectual lightweight -- that reinforce it,nd i am not sure he survived. >> mark? >> charles is right in this

wonderful and rare event. >> two weeks away -- >> it is wonderful to have you back. [laughter] rick perry's stumbles have been related to his debate performance. bill clinton, when he delivered the keynote address and went to law, could go on the late show's and say, "-- and went too long, he could go on the latshow's and say "at was not the best hour and half of my life." was not his achilles' hl. i am not sure perry can recover. >> nina? >> there are tee rsons he cannotot recover. one is that he did not know this and his inner core, and the second and third i cannot remember. >> colby? >> this is onone of those situationsns where i say there but for the grace of godod go i. i write a column and three pairs

of eyes lo at it before it gets published. i do every a broadcast and i tape it. of course, this show was spontaneous, but every now and then we have timime out when he ows something -- we blow something. in this situation, i ache for him. i am not going to say he is gone. >> here's the problem -- rick perry is a very effective retail politician. when he meets peoe in groups of five, at eight, 12 people. that requires time. if he had the year, or 11 months to spend in iowa, i have no doubt he could meet a critical number of voters. the problem is, it is a wholesale experience. everybody saw this. there is no way it rebutted.

>> people say of him he is such a gifteted retail politician, but therisn't it substance there.e. this was a test of the substance, and he has not passed the test. >> hermacain continues to deny he ever harassed any woman anywhere, anytime. he says he will not quit this race period. >> as far as these accusations causing me to back off and maybe withdraw from this presidential primary re, ain't gonna happen. >> as foror the allegations of sharon bialek, cain says he never met a woman. >> the democratic machine of america has brought forth a troubled woman. >> so it goes. cain says his contributions have increased in the wakake of the allegations. how long this going to last

mark? >> i don't know. i think herman ca's creston has been seen great it w the democratic machine i understand, itit was the rick perry campaign, it was the liberal media. this is a man who has been victimized by at some incredibly powerf forces. >> let's say something ctual here. this woman came forward after 14 years, it is true, but the are two people to whom the restaurant association paid $45,000, and other $3500. that is a fair chunk of change, andhey did it coemporaneously with the complaint. nobody made that part up. that is a fact. >> one other thing that a't gonna happen. on january 20, 2013, herman cain will not be sworn in as president of the united states. the other thing that ain't gonna happen is a herman cain will not

be there republican nominee for president of the united states. >> so clear sailing for mitt romney for now on? >> let me say y something about cain -- when you have these accusations, he said, it she said there are no witness, youall you can do is be somewhat humble and say there is no way we will everer know, even though logically one person is lying and the other is a victim, you sortf have to extend mutual said the because yoyou don't know who wathe victimm and who is the liar. what bothers me about herman cain much worse is the way he conducted himself in the debate. every question he digot, he answered with 9-9-9. to me, that it's much more serious allegation, a much morere seriousndictment, because on the other issue we will never actually have real knowledge. >> is it in the bag for mitt

romney? > no, it is not. polls consistently show that republicans are not supporting his candidacy. perry gets a good chunk cain getting a good chunk gingrich coming up. this isot a done deal at all for mitt romney. mitt romney has a serious problem that risk market cap could very well in "the washington post close -- that ruth marcus captured very well in "the washgton post," his flip-floping rate he's a serial flip-flopper. >> he is aonsistent flip- flopper. >> i thought he had a good debate performance. >> he has had every time. > interesting election results around the country.

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>> he is clear that people o spoken, and my vieww is that when peop speak in a campai like this referendum, you have to listen whenn you are a public servant. >> that is ohio gov. john kasich after voters repealed a collective bargaing law affected police, teachers, firefighters. are there all heigh -- were there in ohio. >> is was a real overreached d by including teachers, fifirefighters, police putting a new face of organized labor in ohio. the request and is not by blic

employees have health and pension benefefits- the real questions nothy public employees have health a and pension benefits, but white private employees down to. -- why private employees do not. there is a provision calalled fair share -- i am responsible to pay at least part of thehe bargagaining costs. they were going to repeal that. why? republic is were open about eight --- republicans were opepen about it -- they wanted to defefund organized labor and democrats. >> it is very interesting, the sa electorate that mark said overwhelmingly voted f return to the status quo unions overerwhelmingly voted for a measure to outlaw obamacarare by prohibiting the individual mandate.

here is the state, traditionally democratic, traditionally union. unions have e declined, obviously in wisconsin. you u had the opposite result with theeepublican attack on government unions succeeded. i ink it is interesting. here is a state th says, "lay off our arrangements with the unions but also lay off our health care." i am not sure there is an idideological conclusion you can draw ifou are a democrat or republican to how ohio will go next year. >> there was very lile public debatebout thahat,t, and the way it was framed that proposition down a ballo it was very misleading. >> isn't it the supreme court trying to o decide whether to tackle thisssue? >> they will, and it will not matter whether a state says yes or now.

>> he also had other indications of overreached in mississippi ---- you also had other indications of overreach in mississippi >> fertilized egg is a person. >> it did not pass in mississippi, the most conservative state in the union. >> it t was a terrible amendment. if you are a pro-life person, that is the worst wayo enforce it because it is so ambiguous and all powers are in the hands of jududges, which iexactly what the conservative does not want. secondly medically, it is ridiculous. if you have a fertilized egg in the wrong area -- itas such a flawed and amendment that it was a way to discredit -- >> nonetheless, haley barbour, the governor, voted for it -- >> a substantial portion of the

pro-life movement is now anti- birth control also, and that iss a real killer for the pro-life movement no pun intended. >> what concluonsan we draw from these elections? >> let me dissent fro charles' polemic, a exposition, that ohio is a democratic state. ohio has voted theinning presidential candidate in the lasast 12 campaigns. as far as the healtltcare plan, democrats cannot deny the fact that support for the president's plan tt passed into law has dropped and conontinues to drdrop. in the latest kair poll, it was 37% bid on abortion, america remains totally conflicted. we

>> italy is the third biggest bond market in the world, so they can i just be ignored. u can see why investors - cannot just be ignored. you can see w investors are on edge. >> that was economist austin goolsbee, former chairma of the presidt's council of economic advisers. italy is a huge problem d is about to go off cliliff. what happens if it does? >> it takes the industrialized world's financial system with it. that is why it cannot and probably will not happen. two words for what is standing in the way -- political will. >> they at 48-hour workweek, eat retirement plan, but those are expensive. >> you start with the

mediterranean sea as the culture, you add the eitlement state, and you get insolvency. it took 60 years, it piled on they put off the reckoning by adding on debt. right now we are at the reckoning. it is ironic that we have elected in the united states a president who wants to go towards the entitlement state european social democratic model, at precisely the time in history in which it is imploding in front of our eyes. in the end it becomes insolvt, and that is why there is no political will. polititical will means that the ruling political class is going to have to impose on people who have been raised and breaed on entitlements and tell them that entitlements are over. >> there is profound difference between us and italy. let'ss give italy cdit, it is

the seventh largest ecomy in the rld. what theare not doing right is ey don't collect taxes. americans have the spirit and traditition of paying taxes. except for the 1%, represented so well on this show. >> not only that, in greece they don't pay taxes either. wehould have a system that collts more taxes but people do pay the taxes by y and large that they are supposed to p pay. that is a very big difference between italy and greece -- >> i know you guys -- your anecdotes and your stereotypes. but the average amount the government takes in europe, the eu the social democratic island in the world is 40% of the grgross national product. that is half essentially. here we are about 1/3. they are not under-taxed.

the reason europeans are in trouble is they o over- entitled an under-productive. > former banker here. >> there is apples a oranges here awell. eugene robinson pointed out in "the washington post" romney talked about the expenditure on health c care in the united states, 18%, whereas in the industrialized world, is down to 12%, failing to mention that they have a singleayerystem. figure that out. >> ok, figure it out. >> it is entitlements system, but t a very organized entitlemen system geared in part to cutting costs. >> but how come they are insolvent? yes, exactly. >> i think germany is doing welland i don't think that barack obama is following a

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>> joe parcher no is no longer the head football coach joe -- paterno is no longer the head football coach, effective immediately. >> i am out of it may be now. get a good night's sleep. study. pplause] pray a little bit for t those victims. >> fired penntate coach joe paterno, who says that allegations that young boys were sexually abused by one of his assistant coaches is one of the great sorrows of his life. this is the grand jury report. it is nauseating, colby. >> i readarts of it the other day and had difficulty

sleeping. i had difficulty reconciling the behavior of the oicials at pe state -- not justt paterno but somebody like mike mcqueary -- >> assistant coach -- they are keeping him on the sidelines this week.k. >> he saw sandusky allegedly assaulting this child, 10-year- old child, and did nothing. he goes home and tells his father. he does n not try to stop it. he didn't try t to get the kid any help. and no one seems to respond to the needs of those kids. this i is as bad as anything i ever read. i heard a lot abouthe scandals of the catholic church, but this situation is just revolting. >> toomey 8 shows how celebrity totally distorts our r moral compass -- to me it shows how celebrity totally distorts our moral compass. we heard that by of the ounce

announcement of the resigning of e coach andhe groans and the protests. this is not about a coach, is noabout his successes. it is about a crime that occurred. the whole story about paterno is he going to coach or not, is missing the point. it speaks a lot about how a celebrity culre makes it impossible to have a very straight, honest, a clean judgment on things that are rather open and shut. >>ark. >> this is about child rape. this is about robbing childhood from h human beings. all the attention, all the focus, seems to be on j joe paterno, whethert was a bureauatic follow-thrun where something should be reported. this is a crime that cries out tohe heavens for vengeance. you don't gon -- a middle aged

man who is raping a 10-year-old child in your presenc and somehow you are satisfied by passing it on to the bureaucratic chain of command. these are kids who are having their vulnerability expose and exploited. it is indefensible. >> this particular case happened nine years ago -- >> this has been going on, we now, since 1999 -- >> 1998, i thi. >> there was a confrontation with this by campus police between the mother of one of these ildren and the alleged perpetrator, who said he wished he were dead. nothing ever happened after that. >> they were preying on the most vulnerable kids in our society. parents want kids to get strong supervision. >> penn state net profits, $52

million. last word. see you next week.