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able tablets! >> tonight we mamade history. >> this weweek on "inse washington," romney makes it a two in n a row. >> i understand the difference between a venture-capital and vulture capitalism. >> romney paid for government- mandated health care with taxpayer-funded abortions. >> is writing the anti-romney stuff, the democratic national committee? >> had a victory forr theausee of liberty. >> how does a 76-year-old ma become teh youth candidate? what i is behind a shake-upt thee white use? > i will deeply missed having
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bill by side e at the white house. captitioned by the national caltitioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- >> one weeafter winning the iowa caucuses by eight votes romney captured 39% of the vote in new hampshire. his nearest compepetitor, ron paul, had 22% of the vote. the other candidadates, desperate to stop them, have attacked romney f his success as a venture capitalist -- these are republicans -- and for creatining a model in massachusetts for the obama heth care lislation it i is not seem to be working. he is leading in south carolina and florida, and yet he gives many conservatives the willies. there is a meetingf cultura conservatives this weekend to see if they can find somebody else. hohow did it romney pull this off mark?
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>> he won across the board. he just want. it was a very decisive victory. >> charles? >> he was lucky by how the opposition split. no. 2 is ron paul, who is not going to win the nomination. huntsman camped out in new hampshire and he came in sixthwith 1/6 of t vote in a six-man field. >> nina? >> give hicredit he took a chance by going into iowa late, eking out a victory there, and that he built this concrete wall for himself in new hampshire, whicich he was able to execute. he has h in south carolina -- he is ahead in south c carolina. >> colby? >> he has home field advantage
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and he took advantage of f it in new hampshire. in iowa, that was noa victory that was at high,h, 8-foot -- that was a tie, 8-vote margin.n. >> in election day at one of manchest, new hampshire's pollinglaces, i asked a nurse why she voted for mitt romney. >> he is the most modate of the candidates that i have heard it, i think that he has the best chance of beating obama. >> theest chancee of beating obama. nearly half the voters in new hampshire did not decide on their vote until a few days before the pririmary. nearly 1/5 until election day. 1/3 say they are unsatisfied with their choices. i would call that an enthusiasm gap. >> absolutely. he does not generatate and d these as a more every gs. he is running on -- he does not generate enthusiasm wherever he goes. he is running on electability.
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>> you don't get a sense of an emotional connection that you get with a bill clinton or ronald reagan. >> no, you don't. there is allegedly thidate enthusiasm about beating obama but there was only a little bit later tuturned out that there was in the last sort of bush-weary primaries. >> the former attorney general of new hampshire, a longtime adviser to republican presidential candidates and every publican in new hampshire, had a very interesting formulatition. he said that ordinarily, what happens with the voters is that their hearts make a decision and in their hes follow. he said that this year is different,t, that had to make the decision, as you saw in that piece -- youiece that you're --hat the heads make the decision as you saw in their
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peace, and the hearts wiwill follow. he is a romney supporter and obviously hopes that is th se. i agree with you there is not an emotional intensity except with ron paul. >> how do you beat barack obama if youou don't haven emototional connection with your cdidate? >> you may notot. that is what everybody is worried about. the field is weak, and romney is a weaker-than-usual front runner particularly, as you say,nd a constituency republicans, who are e extremely anti-obama, as we saw in 2010. the turnoout in iowa and new hampshire was essentially the same as 2008, a year when it was not a lot of republican enthusiasm, d 2008,8, when there was a contested primary in iowa and new hampshire, which this time around there wasn't. you would expect all the energy to be on the republican sidide. it is not a good sign for the
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general election. >> one thing in new hampshire voters ought to be nototed for -- 62% of the catholics who voted in the republican primary last tuesesday voted for a morormon, whh is rather remarkable. 56% overall of republican voters voted for a moment. the two catholic candidates between them make santorum and newt gingrich, got 19% of the vote, which is a blow for tolerance and a testimony to someththing good. >> romney and paul split the vote of those who earn less than $50,000 a year. south carolina is different. median income is $43,000, 17% below the poverty line, ununemployment almo 10%. it is that if in playing field. > i do not ow how that tuturns out with party regisation. i suspect the republicans a are
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higher income level than the general population. romney will play well in that group, i think. the problem the issue that will dog him in south carolina, is his record with bain capital. >> does santom do better in south carolina? >> yes, but at the moment -- i defer to mark on this, i have not been there, but i do not see a huge groundswell for him. he did camp out inn iowa paid off, but he has not kept out in south carolina at p. i don't see it happening. >> he is getting some funding -- >> he could , and a second. >> new hampshire has been historally unhospitable to
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candidates with the religious appeal. pat robertson, mike huckabee and excedrin this time. -- rick santorum this time did that carolina has a strong tradition a cultural conservative voters. aree gingrich perry or santorum going to be able to court -- >> they split. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ multiple sounds making melodic tune ] ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] at northrop grumman, every innovation every solution comes together for a single purpose -- to make the world a safer place. that's the value of performance.
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>> i draw a distinction between a leading the comompany, leaving behi brokoken families and neigorhoodods anleaviving behind a factory that should be there.. >> we knew for a long time that the e obam people come after free enterprise. in a little surprised to see newt gingrich's as the first witness fofor the prosecution. >> in fairness, gingrich and
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ntsman have been dialing it down the last couple of days. rick perry is calling romney of alter capitalist -- a vulture capitalist why are these guys doing obama's work for him? >> desperation. rick. it's ridiculous when he makes these charges. at lst with newt gingrich -- rick perry looks ridiculous whe he meetsts these charges. at least with wt gingrich, you can almost believe he believes it rick perry it looks like he is reing off a script. newt gingrgrich will te any issue at hand -- look at globall warming, the individual mandate. he is basically una disciplined and i think unprincipled. he is ahab going after the great white. it is very personal, he has basically admitted that.
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he could get lucky and conceivably succeed with this strategy in south carolina. i think it is unlikely, but it is possie. it would revive his candidacy. i think is more about destroying romney and then winning the nomination. i am not sure that newt believes he has any chance. >> that come back to haunt them late on, this strategy? >> no, it is not. the problem romney has is at he has made e his business career the issue. he said that ts makes the difference, i am the o who has created jobs. when you make that kind of assertion, it has to hold up. let's examine what happened with bain capital could you find some winners and losers. romney says is an attack on fe enterprise. nothing of this sort. free enterprise is also a hot dog stand, the person who runs a beauty s shop.
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he did something different. he is in venturcapital, and yoyou have to examine the record of a venture capitalist like mitt romney. some p people were helped, some people were hurt. >> here is what enter sullivan says "with romney, you have an example of someone who made a quarter of a million dollars by firing the middle class not to increase growth or efficiency t to enrich bain." >> i think that romney pasta busine career is analogous to john kerry's let -- romney's business career is analogous to john kerry's military career. he has made imay be not f fair game but game. the kind of thing that bain capital bid, as colbysaid, had
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winners and losers -- >> that is what ist is. >> it is what is, but thiss a person who is part of a company, ces in, sometimes a dismembers theselaces, moveses them even off the coast. he will be faced with that. and they pay an entirely different tax rate on their ofits. nobody focuses s on that, because it is not sexy enough, but he p pays less of a tax rate than his secretary. >> does this argument, by the time barack obama comes along -- as it lost some of its sting becaususe it is going on right now? >> that is i it the case that sunny republicans are making right now, like e how reverend wright was resolved by the prprimary of 2008 and john mccccain di not revisit it, his
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dedecision in the fall of 2008. this opensp a larger debate about the economy -- does the economy exist to serve human beings, or do human beings exist toto serve the economy? nina put her finger on something important. when you have people being laid off, whether they arre still workers, firefighters, pay taxes at a higher rate than mitt romney did, we are going into -- they pay at the rate of carried interest, all the incomee treated as carried interest. we are going into a time that is historically contradictory. democrats, being the party of e lower classes have nominated candidates who are wellborn and privileged -- fdr jack kennedy.
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republicans, to prove that they are not thehe party of the cntry club nominated pple from humble backgrounds -- twice an hour, ronald reagan, richard nixoxon -- dwight eisenhower, ronald reagan, richard nixon. mitt romney is the richest peon to run for president. >> a big bank account is a liability, charles? >> i didn't hururt fdr johnson or the bushes who had enough momoney in the bank. i am n not sure how much i can that it t has really -- how much a candidate has really matters. what matters here is that romney had to note that when you are a a venture capitalist, democrats are going to t you on that. what surprises me is that he is attacked by r republicans on this and he does not have a good answer. he needs to have an awer. he needsds to explain what he does how, for example, what he
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did is analogous to what obama did with the auto companies. in order to save companies in decline, about to go under, you have to slim it down, fire people close to the ships come in order thahat you save the companany and then you grow and expand in the fututure. he did it with private money obam
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>> how doea 76-year-old man get such a youthful following? >> i have youthfu idealist. they know i am concerned about theireneration. >> ron paul, election day in manchester in. if you attend ron paul events
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like mark and i have, you appreciate the intensity of his young supporters. >> the yououth cdidate in 2008 was barack obama. the youth candidate of 2012 is definitely ron paul. his phone was monitored by veterans -- phone bank was monitored by veterans. part of his appeal, make no mistake about it, is his authenticity. this is a m who says exactly the same thing wherever he is. it is not make any difference whether he is before daddy warbucks or firefighters and blue collar workers. he gives the same mesge, and obviously,nd has an appeal. charles >> did a whole column on him. >> i am now an acolyte. it is an interesting phenomenon. all of us are looking at who will win the race this year and
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that is an important issue. he's not going to win the race or be the nominee and at is why he has gotten less attetention paid historicall speaking however he might be the most important. he is bringing a libertarianism out of the wilderness --hese pathetic third-party runs from 25 years ago. he will end in tampa the way jesse jackson ended up at the democratic conventions in the 1980's are patuchanan in 1992, with the second most delegates, and it couldld demand changes in policy a a primetime speaking slot. if you are the leading candidate, you have to start thinking about how you handle them because otherwise he walks out and runs as ahird- party candidate, and republilicans lose before the race even starts. >> i'm shaking my head in this sense -- he is not 8 jesse
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jackson or pat buchanan w who will settle for a stump speech at the convention. he will pick up delegates along the way so that he can go into the convention with a voice. the voice you of your is is a voice coming to the party platform. you will see where the republican party of 20 top is really going -- of 2012 is really going to be pa. >> do you find yourself sometimes agreeing with him before he goes off a cliff? >> well, yes sometimes. i sometimes agree with almost everybod the only reason i think he won't run as a third-party candidate is his son has a career in front of him. s son is in the united states senate and i don't think he will do that. i am not sure about the platform which can get this about instantly, will do eight. -- can get disavowed instantly
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will do it. >> the turnout is up from 2008 anthe reason is is because of ron paul. >> 18-to-29 -- >> those participating for the first time too -- >> how much of that, a gentleman who o had been there, is in a way anti-war and isolationist? > it is all of those things. gold bonds, anti-government anti-fed, anti-bailout -- >> and it is this downd -- tehhe stoned out constituency.
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holidays, he decided it was time to leave wasashington a returned to our beloved hometown of chicago. >> ok, what is the back story on this colby? >> i don't know if there is an intriguing back story. the white housese is in fulll politil but right now, the president will bout anand about. you need to have somebody in the white house who will keep the train running, and you don't need a big political operative as your chief of staff. you need somebody who can manage the operation behind in washington. >> i don't think it is that simple. i think they brought bill daley in as thgrown-up in the room and d a person with business connections, and it didn't work out. th reason is because there is an insulateded group of ople out and the present, and i always thought -- thought thisith president bush a as well -- that that is very poisonous to
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presidency. you get too insulated, and you only have your little groupies telling you what to -- what you nt to hear. >> was he marginalized at the white house? >> to an extent he was, and his strategy was to reach across the aisle and make yourself more acceptable -- accessible to business interests and republicans. that has been changed dramaticly. the defition of chief of staff that bill daley brought to it was somody with outside experience, political experience, private sector experien not unlike jim baker. jack lew, his successor, is a guy of economic stability and depth ofnowledge of the tail, but dsn't ring to it that same political -- >> president's management style -- i canannot belie how cynical my colleagues are. you ard the guy. he wants to spend more time with
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the family. since everybody sayshat when they leave the job, i think there should be a legal requirement that when you take a job in government you have to say, "i want to spend less time with my family." that shoululd be written into law. [laughter] >> jonathan r.altesays a former chairman of the democratic national committee
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