> "inside washington" is brought you in part by the americanan federation of government employees, proud to make america work. for morenformation about afge and membership, , visit afge.org. >> effective immediately, the department of homeland security is taking steps to lift the shadow of deportation from these young people. >> this week on "inside washington," the president fires up the immigtion debate. >> he failed to act until facing a tough reelection and trying to secure y your. >> a house committee holds attorney general eric holder in contempt. >> why would the president

aimed execive privilege unless there was something very important that h he felt should not bebe made known to this committee? >> the white house, congress and the rest of us anxiouously await the supreme court was to ruling on the healalth-care law. roger clemens catchches up break in court. what was the point of this? >> i put a lott of hard work intoto that carareer. captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- >> last week as we were putting this program together, the president appeared in the rose garden to announce that effective immediately, hundreds of thousands ofndocumentedd immigrants who arrived in the united states as children would all longer f face the threat of deportation. under certain conditions, a

young person under the age of 21 could work in the united states legally, but as the president says, this is only a temporary reprve. >> this is not amnesty this is not immunity, this is not a path to citizenship. it is not a permane fix. >> but last year, it didn't the president tell us he could not do whatt he has just done? >> with respect to the notion that i could suspd deportations for executive order, that is not t case. >> mitt romney has been dancing around the issue for a week. on thursy,he said this to a conference of latino elected officials. >> as president, i will not settleor stopgap measures. i will work with republicans and democrats to build a long-term solution. we may not always agree but when i i make a promise to you, i will keep its. >> romney says he will

streamline the immigration prprocess and find a way to provide legal status and citizenship to undocumented immigrants in the military. for colle studenents, who knows? during the pmaries, he said he would veto the dream act as president. the president's unilateral action giving a breather to uncumented immigrants but first he said he would not do it, then he went aheaand did it. your reaction, charles? >> the politics are billion. the policy, there areerits on both sides of the market. -- of the argument. constitutionally, it is and outrage. he essentially unilaterally rewrote a major act of congre. it would be as a republican try to get people out of the catholic gains tax, it did not succeed, and he then ordered the irs not to c collect a capital gains taxes and not to penalize anybody who would not pay. that would be a scandal and an ouage. >> colby, on constitutional?

>> can't say that trade clearly this is subject to -- can't say that. clearly, this is subject to challenge by the congress. congress and the presidentnt hav been trying to enact the dream act for least two years. several times it passed the house of representative only to get filibustered in the senate by the republicans. there is no reason for romney to take a position that somehow this is elelectionon year politics. that is not the case. if it should be chaenged, you can do it in court or the congress can take aion to override the executive order. but i cannot say it is un constitutional. justice krauthammer mike, but i cannot. >>? nina > - nina?

>> it is probably illegal, and -- probably legal, and chall engeablele by congress. i doubt they will do it. the dream act is to be popularar. republican co-sponsors dropped off of it li mad. four days they cannot comep with an answer, anand romney still has not said he would repeal this if elected. >> lois romano, welcome. >> thank you. i don't think they will challenge it at all. how can you challengetith such a he blocock of voters? obammight have had the latino vote anyway, and now-- >> is the latino vote lost for romney? >> well, he did notave a lot

to say at his speech to the elected officials. there is a case to make, t that if we coul secure the border and build a fence and get an authoritative letter from the governors of the four southern states that the flood is now a trtrickle -- you are not going to abolish it entirely, illegal immigration -- at that point, i would be wililling to amnesty evererybody. if you know that these 11 million arthe last cohort of illegal aliens, we're not going to cost about -- not going to toss them out, but if you close the borders, the american people left and right would be willing to accept that. many conservatives are not willing to accept that position. >> let it be said that the obama administratition has deported more illegal l aliens in three years than the bush administration has done and eight that was one of the reasons there was less enthusiasm in the hispanic comnity in

particular. this will help overcome that, but there is still suspicion in that community because of this significant deportation effort by the obama administration. >> politically, what do the numbers look like, l lois? >> obama is about 67% in the latino commumunity. i think it is too lat romney cannot get it back, acespecially becacause during the primaries he said he would do everything but put rottweilers at the border >> everything is sliced and diced. hispanics, where are they with inindependencets? >> theare splitting independents. michelle obama is going out and splitting the basbid they battaglia interest groups as they -- they are tackling interest groups as they go. >> i think this is a nonstarter for republicans. romney is sll beholden to the

ght wing of his party, and they have him locked in. he cannot move very far without them screaming, as trolls suggested -- charles suggested.d. >> i ice-cream quietly. >> -- i scream quitely. >> silent scrm, wh the tears cacascading down the cheeks. this is illustrative of what romney will be facing throughout the campaign -- >> i'm not sure. this is a case where the publicans have been wking on something. marco rubio was working on a compromise a lot like this which, had it been enacted in congress, would have been on the right way. the brilliance of this move by obama politically was to preempt a let u us -- prept that and take the issue for himself.

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>> our purpose has never been to hold the attorney general in contempt. our purpose has always been to get he information the committee needs to complete its work that it is not only entitled to, but obligated to do. >> the committee on oversight and government reform is supposed to root out problems and find ways to reform how government works. it shouldn't be a political witch hunt. >> that is congressman darrell issa, committee chairman, and member carolyn maloney of new york democrat. for ththose of you wondering what the bubusiness with eric hold is all about, it starts with astin 40's, sting operation -- fast and d furious, a sting operation where atf puputt weapons in the

hands of drug smugglers so they could be traced to ththe cartels. a couple thousand weapons in l. atf lt track of the firearms, many of which interest crimes including the murder of a border patrol agent. republicanans on the committee is said that the attorney general has been withholding documents esntial to the investigation. this week, the whihite house invoked executive privilege. why hasn't holder given the commitittee everything ask for? >> he has given over 7000 documents. this is executivive publisher isis one have seen, over and over agn with administrati's republicans and democrats. it is probably a legitimate to invoke executitive privilege if thee documents give away w what prosecution is trying to do in a criminal case. i don'n't know what they are trying to get access to.

i tended to come out on more disclosure and less secrecy. >> if you invoke executive prprivilege, it tends to stick to the president. >> i think th committee might have overreached. i don't think the public has th stomach for this right now. it plays to congress' image of being disruptive, and they have not made the case for what is in the documents he has to have. >> that is the problem. there's no cover-up that we know. we know that the is incompetence but not a cover- up. they say that there is evidence they were talking a lolot about how to portray this in a a better light. ok, so wha holder said "i will cocompromise with you." issa doesn't want this s resolved. he wants this issue, he doesn't want the documents. it is pretty clear to me, probably pretty clear to

everybody else. >> they are looking for documents that happened after the thing blew open. they are looking for conversasations. >> emails -- >> not for things that led up to at. >> there is stuff there about ongoing investigations. it has to be referred to the justice department to brinto court. it will go nowhere. >> who benefits from this, charles? >> i have to respond to this that some outdating are just fishing for documents but what is left out of this in the station of the facts, an interesting that thishow and mainstream media as to everything from day one, because it has not been talked ababout even though it has been a year and hf. the department last year answering an inquiry by c congress issued a false statement, saying there was no gun running. later had to retract that.

what they are trying to find out is the documents after that was made and who made it. secondly, the attorney general testified may of 201that he had only heard about the entire affair of the entire operation y weeks ago -- a few weeks agago. he later had to admit a year earlier he knew about it and was informed about it. two major statements holder had made an dojd had made that were untrue those are the documts that are being requested. what happened, how were the false statements made, who made them how were they later covered up and then retracted? >> it would be one thing if t the committee uncovered something that was untrue, but he uncoverered it himself -- >> he uncovered it himself??

he had been given multiple memos about it and all the sudden he uncovered aout this -- >> this is no gotcah thing. -- no gotcha thing. they exped it. they realized it was there, and expose it you are trying to make the devil in this situation and there are no devils here. >> with everything going on now with the economymy in the tank and all these issues, i just n't think the american public cares about this, and they think they wi take it out on the perpetrators, the republicans. >> whether or not it has an effectn the election, there is a dead bder agent who died as a resulof this operation, and ththe parents s want to know what happened. >> but that has nothing to do with what the contempt citation is all about. this happened under atf, justice

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he says, "nina, i am afraid i misleded you." you never know. >> which way are they going to go? >> i never like to predict becae you could be wrong. hahave somebody who doesn't know anpredic >> and it tosses to me. thankou, ninina. >> 7% say that the issue will be important -- 70% say the issue will be important to o their vote this fall, and they are uncomfortable with it. >> they were the ones who pointed out the draconian measureses that were there, the people who are against it. on t other hand, when you discuss specific aspects of this ac -- pre-existing conditions

for example -- there is support for it. i think the narrative, which contains a lot disinformation has affected this ll. if i it gets turned down, there will be blowback when people realize what they have lost. >> but what the foer speaker said pelosi, that people will begin to like it ononce they knowow what is in it. unfortunately for your argument, the longer it has gone on, the greater e opposition to obamacare.. >> if it gets return, what does the administration n do? th go to the drawi board quickly a and thehe republicans are ready for this, and are not going to go. as eveveryone here is saying, there are provisions in there that some pele like. >> intereresting story in "the new

york times" on friday on where the money went. where does that money go? >> unclear right now. >> the whole thing is incredibly unclear, a a lot of political experts think that if theourt strikes down the act it is good for obama. the momotivating f force whave been talking about is someone gone but then people will be very angry when ere is not a fixe. the question is whether congress can deal with this. >> 8 million young people who are covered now because of their parents' insurance would losese at coverage if that provision is knocked down. >> and pre-existing condions right no people are able to opt in if they had pre- existing condition. you take that away, people will go crazy. >> yeah, but giveth is not free, althou it sounds as if it is.

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>> i have never taken steroids. thank you all very much. >> roger clemens beat the wp on all six counts that he lied to congress. roger clemens, john edwards, ted stevens, millions dollars hundreds of hours. what is the point? >> these are rotten cases tha shouould not have been brought. the higher ups andnd the justice department shoululd have to answer for that. you have to have some control of your lower-down prosecutors some of whom have political

ambitionons, somome of whom have no judgment. they did notot do that. i don't t think that roger clemens beat the rap. he came as close to ing exonerated as you can be when you are criminally charged. there was no there there. >> this was not the initiative of the justice deprtment. congress -- > right, what they shou have saidid it now. >> -- but they should have said no. >> they responded to this act of congress but if they said no they would have been vilified. >> all three of theseases went to trial with lot primary witness. any federal prosecutor will tell you cannot make a flawed but withr. g person. -- flawed witnessork chie person. >> eecially when andy pettitte said earlier that

clemens told him he used, and then said maybe he didn't. it was over at that point. george mitchell, who reported on steroi, busted open the case said that clemens had been doing it. anybody who has watched the game knows or conceded. but this is aase that should never have happened. these are congressional heargs that should never have happened. the original sin was that is not the realm of congress. baseball is baseball, not a criminal activity. >>he government has a flawed witness, and it uses its leverage to get thatat guy and go and talk to mitchell. mitctchell tells mcnamee we're not going to n name names, and mcnamee god knows how much of what he made up, and then mitctchell doesn't name names. this reflects badly on mitchell the justice department, and the

congress of the unitited states. >> and congress conatulatingg the house of representatives committee for pupursuing this issue -- ey were getting attaboys from this panel here. >> last word to see you next week. >> "inside washington" is brought you in part by the amamerican federation of government employees, oud to make america work. for more information about afge and membership, visit afge.org. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] for our families... our neighbors... and our communities... america's beverage companies have created a wide range of new choices. developing smaller portion sizes and more low- & no-calorie beverages...

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