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the senateto changes before this institution becomes obsolete. >> it i don't care what it looks like as long as it is delivering on those core values we talk about. >> sexual assaults in the military. a senate bill targets the chain of command. >> >> the retaliation was worse than the assault. it was sanctioned by the leaders i would have wrecked -- or >> risk my life for. >> with an eye toward 2014. >> coming together to stop

obamacare is the essence of pragmatism. is a deal with r and possible? -- iran possible? >> and the kennedy assassination. yes, it has been 50 years. harry reid was mad as hell and he was not going to take it anymore. this week the senate majority , leader pushed a button on the nuclear option. he called for by a

simpleajority vote. reid said republicans forced his hahand after what he called unprecedented use of the filibuster on three of president obama's nominees to the d.c. circuit court of appeals. the move short-circuits filibusters on most presidential nominees except for those from the u.s. supreme court. >> important and most dangerous >> the most important and most dangerous restructuring of rules since thomas jefferson wrote them. enough is enough. >> this is too important to keep falling prey day after day to washington politics. >> we are approaching a slippery slope that will destroy the vy unique aspect of this institutioion called the united states senate. >> i'm wonderg if senator mccain has a point. will the senate begin to resemble the house? >> it will. you will see a marked increase in partisanship. the filibuster was not used and

the republicans have abused it and overused it aand trivialized it. and the grgreat civil rights fit of 1964, the difference betwtwen then and now was found in the vote. they were 29 vos to keep the filibuster going against this -- the civil rights act of 1964. 24 of those were cast by democrats. the parties were not polarized. they are now polarized. you have a s senate majoty. >> there may be another role happening. that would be the law of unintended consequences. >> i am sure there will be many unintended consequences. this could have been avoid. the word nuclear option was coined initially by the democrats because this was the republicans' idea when george bush was president. they came to a solution then with six democrats and six republicans. there was nobody offering to do

that on the repuican side this time and saying we will put through all the nominees except in extraordinary circumstanc. to have a negotiation there has to be someone to negotiate with. there was not anybody but it will have unintended conseqequences. >> the nuclear option phrase was coined by bill crist who is the republican leader and he did it because the democrats were tying up some of the nominations they had to the court at the time. >> you're right. >> there is nothing sacrosanct about the filibuster. it has been used for good and ill. it has been used to filibuster laws against lynching, against civil rights legislation and used by the democrats to keep off the court. people they consider to be too conservative. this thing is ultimately going to be decided at the balt box where it belongs. if you do not particularly le that, you have to have in the senate people who will vote the way you would like to vote and to resolve that by going to the

states and working for the kind of candidate who will support the kind of polici and nominanations thatou want. you cannot just do this through the filibuster. >> senator mccain. we are approaching a slippery slope that will destroy ththe unique aspects of the senate. i do worry about it. we were -- we have become acaccustomed to partisansh in washington and people take it for granted. at some point it gets so bad the actual structures start to bend and quake and change. this is one of these moments and you -- it is scary when you start messing with the founding fathers. >> the filibuster was not from e founding fathers. it is 100 years old.

>> but the notion of institutions, we have these checks and balances and whe individual conscience matters. that is not something to b messed with lightly. >> president obama said enough is enough. freshman senatator obama said n. this would make partisan divisions even deeper. this was during the bush administration. >> it depends on where youou are sitting. the problem with the senate today and it did not start last week. during the f four years i was there, i saw very few down the line partytyline votes. and when you had a filibuster command it was not o over a -- come in, it was not over a partisan issue. it was over some other kind of issue. democrats voted with republicans and repuicans voted with democrats. the only time you saw partyline was around organizational issue generally.

itit is now strictly partyline. cloture votes along party line basis. >> colby said something earlier when he talked about elections counting. i think the democrats thought when obama got reelected and they held on to the senate that they would not be so wildly obstructed. if you look at the numbers, there have been 168 filibusters since 1917 when the rule was enacted and half of us have been in the -- half of those have been in the obama administration. that is an incredible number. they so no -- they saw no way around it. republicans did not believe they would do this. otherwise i suspect there would have been a deal. >> the increase in partisanship i predict as the budget analyst points out will be seen in short order by the budget negotiations.

there wilill be less incentive r republicans and the republicans to show their ire and unity by not compromising with democrats on the very budget compromise they are trying to fashi. i think the chances of that and even the increased chances of perhaps the government shutting down again have just been changed by what happened. >> how can they do that, how can they do that again? that is the one ple where obamama does have leverage. therere are all kinds of ways ty can make his life miserable. and they will. i do not think they can shut down the government again. >> never say never.

pre-k's is immigration reform dead? absolutely mark -- not. >> if they want to chop the thing up into five pieces as long as all five pieceses get de

, i do not care what it look like as long as it is e littering on those core values that we talk about. >> president obama was talking to some business leaders at a wall street journal conference. john boehner has been saying he's willing to look at immigration reform but we want to tackle it one step at a time. is the president showing the white flag here? >> he may have beenalking to the room. which was the wall street journal form. a lot of those people in the room very supportive of immigration reform. but you split it up andhat you do is you pass the easy parts which would be order control -- border control. and the bullet that republicans do not want to bite or most do not want to bite would be forgotten. i think that is what the president had to confront and recognize.

>> republicans have to do something. john boehner has said we will never take up the senate bill and we will not do that. no one expects him to take up the senate bil you do expect the house to address these issues. do not forget, they have tried to rebrand the republican party. we have to do something abobo our brand, they have said. in light of the last election. i think not because of president obama that of their own self- intererest. they will have to do something on immigrati reform. not the whole package. along the lines of what mark is talking about. they have to put s something on the tatable. if they hope to have access to this large voting block that has turned off from them. >> i am the cynic here. i think this is one of the ways at the vote in the senate will hurt. it will not happen. already you see people who supported immigration reform in the senate on the republican side backing away. they do not want to be stuck with it. brokenhows you how truly

things are. is this soverwhelminy in the republicans' interest? to write off the hispanic community is too canend themselves to beinthe minority party forever. the business cmunity, there all for this. there is a huge incentive to get foreign workers in here. it is the right thing to do on a lot of levels. there are is so much going forward. this thing cannot pass, it shows you that -- do we need further proof. this has to behe final proof. ofow broken it is. >> republicans have a big horse to ride into battle. it is called obamacare. obamacare, can they carry that -- they're saying that we are going to tattoo obamacare on those candidates, they -- can they carry that to november 2014? >> it was one of the dumbest things that the republican chairman has said. republicans ought to be talking about we want to impro and mend and repair the shortcomings

of this health care plan. so that more people have health coverage instead of turning it into a partisan political battering ram. make no mistake about it. the democrats are terrified. >> and justifiably. completely justifiably. >> the cbs poll is at 37.57 in his j rating. 20 points under. are holding eight hearings? >> leave it to them to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. >> i do not see any evidence of that. >> if you have the face of the problem is [inaudible] and you have people like rubio arguing against obamacare, it is a political matter and something that democrats have to do. on the other hand the program itself, the way it will unfold

will present enough problems for the democrats. the republicans would be foolish to put their face. in the way of the position. the at the problem president has in california. he proposed change. califoia will not go wrong -- along with it. if you have that kind of problem recurring elsewhere in the country that is going to be a politicaproblem for the democrats. not of the republicans making but of the law itself. that is the problem. >> they will be rrying this albatross to 2014. >> if obamacare would work it is not gogoing to work in the next year. if it ever does. is not going to work, it has enough problems and they did not devote the kind of resources they needed to to making the

rollout pretty good. it was neveroing to be stellar. good, --ng pretty instead of pretty good, it is pretty awful. and even though there is some good news in states that want to make it work, that does not offset how terrible it is everyday. you open the newspaper. there is one or two huge problems cropping upup that wewi the public, even the knowledgeable public did not anticipate. >> theasic structural thing is if enough healthy people do not going to the program it is finished. >> we're not finished yet.

>> we need impartial, unbiased, objective consideration of the evidence by trained military prosecutors which is what my management will provide. >> we are creating more problems than we will be solving it wawas if we make the changes advoted by senator gillibrand. >> the pentagon released a study estimating there are 26,000 cases of sexual contact. 3000 cases reported. 300 prosecuted. the senator wants to revoke the authority of commanders to do with those cases but the chairman of ththe armed services committee is opposed to stripping them of that authority. >> the chain of command isis vey important for military order.

so i can understand the hesitation on the part of those who do not want to respond in a way that -- to the senator. on the other hand, this is a unique problem. this is a problem that goes beyond the chain of command. to handle themselves on the basis of judgment. this is something that ought to be put before an independent tribunal where you can judge and determine in an adversarial situation. and not have a commander decide on questions of sexual assault. i think that -- you will not get that objectivepproach that is needed >> you do not think that after three and four stars, pele will pay more attentntion? >> i think that would happen.

there is precedent for that in the united states military. jack reed of rhode island, the former u.s. ranger opposes it. it is intriguing to me. lisa murkowski, the republican senator from alaska makes the most compelling case. one of her academy nominees who graduated resigned her commission. she had been sexually assaulted and abused. and nobody did anything. >> that is the thing. everybody that i know in the military, friends in the military are strongly opposed to this and i understand that. the record really is that we have losost some fabulous talent in the military. female talent because they were sexually assaulted. nobody would do anything about it. there is something bad about the command structure. i am not a zealot on this.

the system has failed to do what it is supposed to do. >> after vietnam there were real problems with drug abuse. the word ce down, zero tolerance. if you smoke a joint you're out. could you not do the same thing with this? >> they had serious race problems. the military said we will stop this nonsense and the military became a model for race relations after that. they are the best. they made it happen. why can't they do o this, it isa difficult socialissue. why can't they do it? >> sex is different. who are decente who do horrible things in their sex lives and there is something weird about this. i think thahaving the guy who is just above you take the , commander decision

of the base or your commander make the decision is much more it is not the way to g go about crimcral p prosecution here. >> let me change the subject. the talks with iran. does it make any sense, do we buy any time for the u.s. in terms of the security with this deal? >> it is -- an interesting poll this week. americans by two to one favor negotiations with iran. that is having a profound effect on how we respond to this. there is strong opposition. coming nottiations only from israel but israel possible or's in the congress. the desire or the aversion for the military conflict is deep and abiding. charles krauthammer is not here. >> the tragedy as we did not do this 10 yearars ago.

when we could have and we could have bought a huge a amount of time. >> i was pretty pessimistic. i am more encouraged bwhat colby mentioned. and also by the fact, there is a real yearning and a total commitment on the part of john real yearning and a total commithe pace of change isjohn accelerating. the way we... perform, compete and grow. and people are driving this change. that's the power of human resources. the society... for human resource management and its members know... how to harness that power, because we helped develop it. from the nt economy, to the next g generation, we help get.. the most out of business, by getting the best out of people. shrm. leading people, leading organizations.

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-- the tea party. he was 14 when he met resident kennedy in dallas in 1963. 50 years ago you still feel the shock waves. >> you . many things were lost that day. i think saddest of all is the sense of service is a good thing. he was able to convey that. whatever his limitations. public service is a noble thing. and polititics is a noboble thi. that is lost. >> what did we lose? >> we lost our innocence. i find it personally that it is the saddest thing, public thing in my lifetime. to read now about john kennedy and to realize all the defeats he had in his first year and a half or so and how he had greatly matured and was a very different kind of president. i think would have gone on to have changed history as we know it today. we will never know that.

it is all speculation. it breaks my heart. >> it was not only the loss of the president, it was an idea that we lost. the new frontier took hold with a lot of us. the first time i was able to vote ian election. there was so much promise there. that is what will hurt. to cut down that promise. >> picking up on what evan said and agreeing with nina and colby. it was not simply public service. those of us who had been blessed or advantaged or had a responsibility in the line that every man, every american can make a difference. one man can make a difference and everyone must try. that was a call to collective sacrifice. and the idea that civil rights was a moral issue. he was the first to say and i

was proud as an irish catholic that he said. >> thanks. last word. see you next week. captioned by the