this weeks, lockheed on delivery of 535 to israel. >> last week the first two f35 fighter jets landed in israel marking a start of a new era. barbara roam sat with jack chris letter to find out more about the program. >> you're right, the golden eagles been the first international to air force to declare the ioc. they'll be one of three air forces that declared ioc. what are they declaring it with? an aircraft that distinguisheses itself interest others by stealth and sent fusion.

eliminate their ability to detect, track and engage us and the sentra fusion is for the fused image of the pilot giving him unprecedented awareness that manifests itself on the helmet of the pilot. it's revolutionary, doesn't exit anywhere else. >> it's interesting that israel actually israeli air force pilots have never taken to the skies in the f35 because they've relied so heavily on the simulator. so what is this new generation, this new era they're in now that they can -- planes touch up on in israel and only then they'll start to fly. >> all their training initially is in a synthetic environment. the fidelity is astonishing. all the pilots we've trained will go back

their first flight in the plane. >> israel has 33 aircraft on order and the government recently announced its intention to buy another 17 bringing the force to 50. congress preapproved israel for 75 aircraft. what about costs. when israel signed in 2010 sheriff's a lot higher than the estimated $85 million that it is for a cost these days. how did you drive the cost down? >> we're focused on it every day. affordability is a primary focus of the company. and the enfire f35 enterprise. in the six years since we delivered the first f35 we've driven down the cost by 57%. in the next three years, another 15% through affordable initiatives and economics. that will put us in a $85 million aircraft that is the most capable

cheaper than any other aircraft. >> less expensive than an f15i israel was also considering. >> exactly. if you combine that with the industrial benefits that come with participation in the program and thousands of jobs it creates, for the life of the program, not just for the 50 aircraft israel's buying but 40 years of production, that's value. >> can you talk about what the israelis call industrial participation. >> that's what where he call it. every pilot against a helmet, they fly with that helmet and the israeli industry is building 811 outer wings for the f35 and five others are participating in the program. that doesn't include sustainment. >> let's talk about that. one thing that israel insists upon is the aircraft will never leave the

they'll ship out black boxes when the need comes but they're a little bit different than the rest of your program partners. can you talk about that? >> sure, israeli customers are interested in security of supply so we appreciate that requirement and we are working with the jpo and the ministry of defense to structure a program that meets that requirement. >> because of the rare circumstances that israel finds itself in if missiles and rockets fly it could be hard to get support. >> absolutely. they live in a unique environment. their neighborhood's unique to anyone in the world. we understand that. we've been partners with israeli air force more than 50 years now and we've -- our relationship is based on that understanding. >> and as far as this f35i squadron, the 140th squadron, the name in hebrew is ader, which mean awesome.

customer to this program? will the eyes of the world be looking for the israel air force as it operates these planes near and perhaps even very far from home? >> obviously the geopolitical relationship is important. the f35 will bring a capability that be the foundation of ford in my opinion. it brings a capability best discussed by the pilots that fly every day. our pilots and partner pilots that are flying over training ranges and exercises are undefeated in combat with this aircraft. that brings a capability of a lot of flexibility. >> as we wrap up, one thing that was very important for the israel air force is the ability to have its own communications and electronic

capabilities in this fighter coling into one common network with their fourth generation aircraft. was that -- that wasn't a trivial matter. >> it was not. it required a separate development program. they incorporated their unique c4isr system, the recons sans system, in the f35. the same system in the f16 and c130's. >> when we return, how israel's i knew it could rough in there, but how rough? there was no way to know for sure. hey guys.... daddy, it's pink! but hey. a new house it's a blank canvas. and we got a great one thanks to a really low mortgage rate from navy federal credit union. pink so she's a princess. you got a problem with that? oorah

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israel's commitment to the f35 is about more than a strong bond with the pentagon, it allows the country to respond to widespread anstability in the region. i sat down with barbara roam. >> as the new aircraft, the f35i's come on line they'll replace older f16a and b models. when they build up to considerable quantities they'll replace the older f15 fleet. israel has planned from day one this fourth generation escort squadron so the f35 fifth generations will pull the fourth generation to th

integrated network. that's the plan. >> great. obviously f35 is known for their stealthy capabilities. that's what internationally we hear so much about the f35. how might that be helpful in terms of israel in terms of their future strike operations in iranian? >> extremely helpful, especially when the advanced air defenses in the region, particularly syria but also lebanon and of course in iran, they will are covered with advanced russian s300, s400, sa22 and sa17 in the region for a while. the israel air force has always known how to get around these air defenses but it's a huge challenge. it's very risky. they have to be limited by different altitudes and flight paths but they have an interesting presentation on the air staff where they show with the

sail right in. obviously operationally this gives them much more complete freedom of operation. >> i don't know whether anything has come out but i'm asking because i'm curious. have the other nations that this will -- in terms of supporting israel with military strategy, have we heard any response from some of its adversaries in terms of what israel is doing? >> well, a key benefit of having this fighter is its deterrent aspects. so israel believes this is really going to beef up its deterrents. they expect, they did not receive any promises by the u.s. government but it's their full expectation the u.s. will not sell these fifth generation stealth fighters for a generation to come. the israelis will

want the aircraft to be sold in the region. obviously that's not going to happen. there will be a time the aircraft, like the f16 that's been sold throughout the region but right now israel is looking at that with deterrence and it's not unusual that you haven't heard about it because it's still new and maybe they're deterred. >> it's fascinating to hear people say only israel in terms of the f35 is going. now, of course there is the russia air force. are there any concerns that there could be clashes, more clashes, in terms of the space and skies above syria? >> yeah, the whole entry of russia as a key player, pivotal mariplayer in syria and flexings muscles. right now it shouldn't matter, right now israel and russia enjoy some type of

deconflicting. they have avoided dangerous and unintended clashes. we know what happens between russia and turkey. israel and russia are committed to prevent that from happening between them. but if things go sour, if the equation changes, this is a very, very delicate situation, russia is backing bashar al-assad in syria and bashar al-assad in syria is allies with iranian and hezbollah so it's a delicate balance. if something changes and if that cooperative relationship goes away, then these stealth fighters will become very, very useful in allowing israel to retain its freedom of operation in the skies of syria. why is it so important for israel to operate occasionally in syria? they have a policy, a clear

will not allow the advanced syrian weaponry to be sent across the border into the hands of hezbollah in lebanon. this month there's been reports from the syrian media they waged air strikes against convoys so -- and arms depot, so israel has a interest in preserving the red line and let's hope it doesn't involve friction. what has to happen in israel now between now and when these actually become operational? >> that's an excellent question because there is a long process. we got to remember, it took about 10 years for israel to reach this stage where it has its first pair of f35's. there will be another intense process. at least a year for them to declare ioc but many, many years afterwards, as they adapt

israeli unique weaponry, they're integrating communications and electronic warfare and putting it all together in one force package. it could take years but the bulk of the work will be done in the year to come. >> when we return, leanne karat, president and c.e.o.

for some time declining demands for the f18 created uncertaintydy about production but recent orders created new found optimism. we spoke to the c.e.o. of boeing's security business to get the latest. >> i feel very comfortable with the f18 line going well into the mid 2020's and beyond. and we're also working with our navy customer on opportunities to continue to upgrade and modernize those. as i mentioned, it's as much

is about making sure the fleet's relevant for the fight in the future. >> sustainment is a big part of what you're looking at. mid 2020's, does that include an expected plus up from the navy or based on sales we know are happening. >> we have both sales that we're nearly certain of and those that we believe will also come to be. but i feel very comfortable with where we are with this line. it's an aircraft that's continued to prove its viability over the long run and it's an exciting time for the program itself. >> there's some thought people brought up that what happens -- it's only 18 jets. is that being explored. >> i'll defer to the canadian government on the be acquisition strategy. we're just pleased they found value in

>> if this is the interim solution, what does boeing have to do with the interim solution to set themselves up to win the competition. >> with the interim solution, we need to deliver on the schedule we committed to, we need to meet our customer's requirements and perform with the highest quality and we need to support them and they execute their mission. that will set us up for future competition. >> do we know when the future comp listening icompetition wil? >> not officially. >> let's talk about the time frame on the kc46 tanker, boeing had some delays in the past. how confident are you about where it is now and are you confident you'll hit the january 2018 date? >> i'm very pleased with the progress we've made to date as we have said -- continued to say, this is a development program. we're 50% completely with flight

we haven't had any major surprises in terms of the flight test program. but with any development program, we're managing it daily and i have made it clearly externally and internally this is my number one priority. >> so confidence level on that january 18. >> we're continuing to drive our commitment to the customer. let me ask about the corporate side of things. boeing is a mixed commercial and defense company. you run the defense side. but there's been some question of what the balance should be, perhaps smaller, some growth. from where you stand in the defense side the right size? >> i believe we have a great opportunity to grow our defense business. the chairman of our company used to run our defense business so he has an affinity for that as well. we have identified six markets where i believe we have the opportunity to have a leadership role and we're going to continue to move that direction. i do believe that

time has aligned in terms of our capabilities and our customer focus that we can really grow the business more than they have with the past. >> at the same time there's been consolidation, about 500 jobs will be cut by 2020. how does that fit into the overall planning process and how thinking of perhaps there will be another round of consolidation in the future? >> as we have done and have been very deliberate about, we have continued to focus on our affordability journey. we continually look at our sites within the portfolio, looking at where we can get the most synergy. our customer is operating in a more for less environment. we need to take positive steps to deliver them affordable products and that requires us to look hard at ourselves not only in terms of how we're organized but how we execute the business so we'll continue to assess this as part of our normal battle rhythm. >> you mention add couple

i'm thinking of space, some of the areas you have talked about in the past. what's the real plan for how long it will grow into space? you've been a player a long time. you are part of ula, expected to grow near term. what is the plan? >> well, when you ask me what the big plan, the big plan is to maintain our leadership role in space that we have to date. i'm very blessed, i'm a second generation boeing employee. my parents met on the space program at the plant in new orleans. i was born at cape kennedy, so space is in my blood. it's one of the areas that motivates and excites folks who want to join the company. we have great opportunities with our space launch system. our launch business continues to improve and so there really is

the opportunities of balance and i think there's a great interest as we move -- continue to grow and expand in the space frontier from the united states perspective and globally. >> the tx trainer program, can you tell us how confident you are in that program? are you going to meet the deadlines for the air force considering it's, compared to the other competitors, in the early stages. >> we had a brilliant rollout and she'll fly as good as she looks. >> we're in front of former air force 1. you said you worked on this plane? >> tail number 7,000. it was one of the first major programs that i worked on for the boeing company. i had the honor of working on the presidential aircraft for a number of years. and it is such a delight and symbol of the united states. >> boeing expects to make the next air force one as well. can you give us the status?

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exercise with the new york city fire department hazmat team. >> our 59th chemical unit, the chemical, biological will, radiological and nuclear did training with the new york city fire department. the purpose of the train was to increase our role in civil support mission. we did joint training with them and actually the simulated exercise, there was a radiological device that had gone off in new york city. and new york fire department was doing screening at a reception center. as part of the civil support mission we could take over that mission screening personnel before they enter the center to make sure they're free of contamination. if they're contaminated, do decontamination before they enter the center. >> you mentioned the domestic role. it's not something folks always associate with the army. can you expand about the mission

>> we support both the defense support to civilian agencies in multiple roles and desurf mission, the defense cbre response force. they're part of the current standing desurf mission so we have a responsibility of being on short notice that if there's a incident of chemical, by logical or radiological or nuclear anywhere in the u.s. they're on notice to respond to provide their specialized training and e expertise to especially with decontamination or screening and sampling to see how big the threat is. >> obviously we have a lot of situations in the united states where there's concern from homeland security and so forth. how often or what kind of circumstances are you called in? >> it's never happened in a large scale contingency for

incident. however we have forces that routinely interact with -- in the defense of civilian support agency. they belong to the 20t 20th command. they routinely respond to pick up ordinance, explosive ordinance that lost custody of the united states government or if local or federal police don't have a bomb technician in the area, we respond to explosives incidents. >> we're here in the metro in washington, d.c. i suppose something like transportation in general, are those circumstances where you might find yourself potentially responding? >> i will say that state and federal authorities have done a great job recently after 9/11 to vastly increase the number of eod tex on staff. so d.c. and most

very capable of taking care of most routine eod incidents, most bomb calls. however, if there' there's mulle calls we assist whenever we're called. >> we often hear in terms of homeland security that there needs to be good collaboration between state and local jurisdictions and federal and defense. where do you feel that stands generally speaking? is there a good collaboration and interaction happening there? >> i think the collaboration between both state, local, and federal is excellent right now between the department of defense. we routinely do exercises to test their capability and ours in a joint environment. the 59th chemical unit that trained with the new york city fire department is a great example. not only did they do training in tasks but

city to see high risk targets so if there's an incident, that unit who will respond there already knows the lay of the land. that's a good way to enhance our cooperation. plus we get to know them and their capabilities and they know us and our cape abilities the first time we meet isn't in a crisis situation. we understand each other and augment each other's response. >> that's it this week for defense news. thanks for joining us.

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