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this is "nightline." >> tonight, the white house interview. >> i know you're only five days in. has it changed you? >> i don't want to change too much. >> president trump with david muir in his first one-on-one interview since taking office. his controversial claims of widespread voter fraud. >> you look at the people that are registered. dead, illegal -- >> reporter: his plans for that wall along the border. >> so the american taxpayer will pay for the wall at first? >> reporter: his stance on the use of torture. >> you're now the present, do you want waterboarding? >> reporter: how he's coming to grips with the power of his position. >> right after the oath of office, they give you the nuclear codes.
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mary high tyler moore, who passed away today at 80. a feminist icon whose groundbreaking portraying in "the mary tyler moore show" served as a role model for women in the workplace. a look back at some of her finest moments and how she's being remembered tonight.
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good even. thanks 4 joining us. tonight we bring you a remarkable abc news exclusive taking us inside the oval office with president donald trump. no question off limits. a comprehensive discussion with my colleague david muir. david? >> juju, thanks. it was an extraordinary day at the white house. president trump delivering on his first major campaign promise with an executive order to start building that border wall. sitting down for his first interview since taking the oath of office, making news on the use of torture and on his belief there were millions of illegal votes on election day. tonight we go one on one with president trump on the issues facing his administration, and we ask how is he adjusting to the weight of the presidency? mr. president, i want to start, we're five days in. and your campaign promises. i know today you plan on signing the order to build the wall. >> correct. >> are you going to direct u.s. funds to pay for this wall? will american taxpayers pay for the wall?
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of what's happening with mexico. we're going to be starting those negotiations relatively soon. and we will be in a form reimbursed by mexico -- >> they'll pay us back? >> yeah, absolutely, 100%. >> when does construction begin? >> as soon as we can. as soon as we can physically do it. >> i want to ask about undocumented immigrants who are here in this country, right now they're protected as so-called dreamers, the children brought here by their parents. should they be worried they could be deported? is there anything you can say to assure them they'll be allowed to stay? >> they shouldn't be very worried. they are here illegally. i do have a big heart. we're going to take care of everybody. we're going to have a very strong border. we're going to have a very solid border. where you have great people that are here, who have done a good job, they should be far less worried. we'll be coming out with policy on that in the next four weeks. >> mr. president, will they be allowed to stay? >> i'll tell you the next four weeks. >> i want to ask you about something you said here at the white house.
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spoke at length about the presidential election with them, telling them you lost the popular vote because of millions of illegal votes. 3 million to 5 million illegal votes. that would be the biggest electoral fraud in american history. where is the evidence of that? >> let me tell you, first of all, gas so misrepresented. that was supposed to be a confidential meeting and you weren't supposed to go out and talk to press as soon as you -- but the democrats viewed it not as confidential. >> you have tweeted about the million h million -- >> it was supposed to be a confidential meeting, they turned it into nonconfidential. number two, the conversation lasted about a minute. somebody said it was 25%, it was hardly even discussed. i said it and i said it strongly. because what's going on with voter fraud is horrible. that's number one. number two, i would have won the popular vote if i was campaigning for the popular vote. i would have gone to california where i didn't go at all. i
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where i didn't campaign at all. i would have gone to a couple of places that i didn't go to. and i would have won that. much easier than winning the electoral college. but as you know the electoral college is all that matters. it doesn't make any difference. with that being said, if you look at voter registration, you look at the dead people that are registered to vote, who vote. you look at people that are registered in two states. you look at all of these different things that are happening with registration. you take a look at those registrations, you're going to find, and we're going to do an investigation on it -- >> 3 million to 5 million illegal votes? >> we're going to find out bit it could very well be that much. >> when you say in your opinion millions of illegal votes, that is something that is extremely fundamental to our functioning democracy of fair and free election. >> sure, sure. >> you say you're going to launch an investigation. >> sure, done. >> what you have presented so far has been debunked. it's been called false -- >> look at the pew reports. >> i called the author of the pew report last night and he told me they found no evidence --
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the report? >> he said no evidence of voter fraud. >> excuse me, why did he write the report? he's groveling again. i always talk about the reporters that grovel when they want to write something that you want to hear but not necessarily millions of people want to hear or have to hear. >> let me ask you about a new report, that you were poised to lift a ban on so-called cia black sites, prisons around the world used in the past. that is true? >> i'll be talking about that in two hours. >> will you lift the ban? >> you'll see in two hours. >> tonight we're awaiting word from the trump white house on any decision regarding so-called black sites. >> president obama said the u.s. does not torture. will you say that? >> i have a general who i have great respect for, general mattis, who said, a little surprised, who said he's not a believer in torture. as you know, pompeo was just approved, affirmed by the senate. he's a fantastic gu
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cia. and you'll have somebody fabulous as opposed to the character that just got out who was not fabulous at all. and he will i think do a great job. and he is, you know -- i haven't gone into great detail. but i will tell you, i have spoken to others. in intelligence. and they are big believers in, as an example, waterboarding. >> you did tell me -- >> they say it does work. it does work. >> mr. president -- >> personally -- >> you told me during one of the debates you would bring backwater boarding and a hell of a lot worse. >> what i would do -- i want to keep our country safe. i want to keep our country safe. >> what does that mean? when they're chopping off the heads of our people and other people, chopping off the heads of people because they happen to be a christian in the middle east, when isis is doing things that nobody has ever heard of since medieval times would i feel strongly about waterboarding? as far as i'm
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to fight fire with fire. with that being said, i'm going with general mattis. i'm going with my secretary. because i think pompeo is going to be phenomenal. i'm going to go with what they say. but i have spoken as recently as 24 hours ago with people at the highest level of intelligence, and i asked them the question. does it work? does torture work? and the answer was, yes, absolutely. >> you're now the president. do you want waterboarding? >> i don't want people to chop off the citizens or anybody's heads in the middle east, okay? because they're christian or muslim or anything else. i don't want -- look. you are old enough to have seen a time that was much different. you never saw heads chopped off until a few years ago. now they chop them off and they put them on camera and they send them all over the world. so we have that and we're not allowed to do anything? we're not playing on an even field. i will say
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i will rely on pompeo and mattis and my group. and if they don't want to do it, that's fine. if they do want to do, i will work for that end. i want to do everything within the bounds of what you're allowed to do legally. but do i feel it works? absolutely, i feel it works. >> you'd be okay with -- >> no, i want to -- no i will rely on general mattis. and i am going to rely on those two people and others. and if they don't want to do it, it's 100% okay with me. do i think it works? absolutely. >> we head outside to the colonnade where we discussed what happened shortly after president trump took the oath of office. this is the famous walk you've seen so many presidents -- >> so many. amazing. >> let me ask you, right after the oath of office, they give you the nuclear codes. sobering moment? >> when they explain what it represents and the kind of destruction that you're talking about, it is a very sobering moment, yes. it
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a sense. >> does it keep you up at night? >> no. but it's confidence that i'll do the right thing and the right job. but it's a very, very scary thing. >> every president does get asked, though, what keeps them awake. what's unsettling. what has been most unsetting for you now that you're five days in? >> i see a tremendous amount of waste. i see a tremendous amount of job opportunities that have been let go. for many years. i'm not just talking about president obama. i'm talking about for many, many years. and i was a big, big fan of ronald reagan. but i was never a big fan on trade with respect to ronald reagan. i just think we've had years and years of allowing our jobs to be dissipated in this country. and there's no reason for it. >> so the economy keeps you up more than terrorism and homeland security? >> i view it all
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very important. terrorism is to me number one because we have to keep people safe. most importantly, we have to keep people safe. but the economy is certainly -- we have to bring the jobs back. i talk the forgotten men and women. they're not forgotten anymore because they came out and voted. a lot of people, you folks, didn't know they existed in a true sense. everyone saying, we did they all come from? it was pretty amazing, wasn't it. when we come back, the millions of americans who want to know what the replacement will be for obamacare. >> i'm just asking about the people who are nervous and watching you for reassurance -- >> here's what i can reassure you -- >> when we come back. but then i realized there was. so, i finally broke the silence with my doctor about what i was experiencing. he said humira is for people like me who have tried other medications but still experience the symptoms of moderate to severe crohn's disease. in clinical studies, the majority of patients on humira saw significant symptom relief. and many achieved remission.
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let me ask you, mr. president about another promise involving obamacare, to repeal it. you told "the washington post" that your plan to replace obamacare will include insurance for everybody. that sounds an awful lot like universal coverage. >> what my plan is, is that i want to take care of everybody. i'm not going to leave the lower 20% that can't afford insurance -- just so you understand, people talk about obamacare. and i told the republicans this. the best thing we could do is nothing for two years, let it explode, and then we'll go in and we'll do a new plan and the democrats will vote for it, believe me. because this year you'll have 150% increases. last year in arizona, 116% increase. minnesota, 60% increase. i told them action except for one problem, i want to get it fixed. the best thing i could do as the leader of this country, but as wanting to get something approved, with support of the
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democrats, if i didn't do anything for two years, they'd be begging me to do something. but i don't want to do that. >> no one who has this health insurance through obama care will lose it or end up with anything less? >> when you say no one, i think no one, ideally in the real world, you're talking about millions of people, will no one. then knowing abc, you'll have this one person on television saying how they were hurt. okay. we want no one. we want the answer to be no one. but i will say, millions of people will be happy. right now you have millions and millions and millions of people that are unhappy. >> so we're in the oval office. >> this is the oval office. this is truly one of the great spaces. and i bring people in from general motors and from ford and the biggest people. and i bring in the labor leaders and people that are in the labor movement. and they walk into this room and they just want to take it in. they could stand here for an hour just taking it in. >> what moves you the most about this room? >> just the
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the importance of it. what's happened here. i actually put some pictures up that i thought would be great. some of the paintings i thought would be really appropriate. george washington. alexander hamilton. thomas jefferson. abraham lincoln. andrew jackson, who a lot of people, they compare the campaign of trump with the campaign -- you have to go back to 1828. but that seems to be a comparison for certain obvious reasons. >> we're standing on -- >> we put some of these up -- >> we're standing on ronald reagan's rug? >> this was ronald reagan's. you have a choice when you come in. they have eight or nine carpets. they have different furniture. the desk is -- >> the resolute desk. >> yes, the resolute desk. >> we have seen the amount of action at this desk already this week. >> right. >> the dow hit 20,000 today. >> right, i'm very proud of that. very proud of that. the business community and the labor community, you saw that with the labor lead there's came
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single-greatest meeting i've ever had with anybody, it's the highlight of my life. and the dow on top of it just hit 20,000. first time in history. i'm very proud of that. now we have to go up, up, up. we don't want it to stay there. >> that's the challenge, mr. president. >> that's going to be the challenge. but it's gone up a lot since i won. don't forget, when i won people thought, oh, maybe it will go down. but the business world doesn't think that. the business world knows me. they don't think that. and it was a steady climb. and now we just hit a record. and a number that's never been hit before. so i was very honored by that. >> the president then takes us through the west wing to show us the photos they already have on the walls. >> these are some of the pictures that were taken. this is the swearing-in. the first dance with melania. >> just before we leave, the president tells us he wants to show us just one more image. >> one thing this shows is how
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look how far this is. this goes all the way down here. all the way down. nobody sees that. you don't see that in the pictures. but when you look at this tremendous sea of love, i call it a sea of love. it's really something special that all these people traveled here from all parts of the country, maybe the world, but all parts of the country. hard for them to get here. many of these people were the f forgotten men and women, many of them. and they loved what i had to say. more importantly, they're going to love the result. >> mr. president, thank you. >> thank you very much. thank you, david. >> our thanks to david for that wide-ranging interview. remembering a feminist pioneer. the beloved star of "the mary tyler moore show." some of her most memorable tv moments.
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finally tonight, we reflect on a woman who could always turn the world on with her smile. mary tyler moore, who died today at the age of 80. we pay tribute. >> how old are you? >> 30. >> reporter: it wasn't just her comic timing that was impeccable. >> how old do i look? >> 30. >> reporter: the timing of mary tyler moore's career was impeccable too, coinciding with a generation of young women entering a male-dominated workforce. as young mary richards, she showed how to do it without compromising yourself. >> you've been asking a lot of very personal questions that don't have a thing to do with my qualifications for this job. >> you know what? you've got spunk. >> well. >> i hate spunk! >> reporter: feminism's most relatable role model. like her character layer are laura on
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show." dancer by training. married young. mother by age 18. her son ritchie died at 24 from an accidental self-inflicted wound. just weeks after the release of "ordinary people" in which moore plays a mother dealing with the tragic loss of a son. >> it's really important to try to hurt me, isn't it. >> don't you have that backwards? >> how do i hurt you? by embarrassing you in front of a friend? >> reporter: that performance earned her an oscar nomination. for all her success moore had plenty of struggles as she told charlie rose. >> you're living with diabetes, you've had tragedy. in the end, after all is said and done this has been a pretty good life. >> has been a wonderful life. absolutely terrific. >> reporter: with each glance and every little movement, she showed it. i'm david wright for "nightline" in new york. >> and with a hat-tip to mary, a reminder to all,
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