jill aitoto: this week on "defense news" --ukraine's defense industry chief on russia,ng roster -- airborne and lockheed's martin trainer, and women. we had an interview with the head of the most dominant conglomerate. isaiah the opportunity to sit down with roman romanov, the state owned conglomerate of defense companies in ukraine. he spoke to me through a translator about how his conflict with russia force the country to rethink and redefine its defense strategy. romanoff:

they put all-- their efforts so that day you came stays interesting to investors. we should understand these are three regions where the situation is unstable -- crimea, parts of -- [indiscernible] there are normal conditions. there is also

economic war. it is not only with the guns. [indiscernible] mr. romanov: in order for the country to be united, we need to win in the economic world. jill: is that what you mean -- you have used the phrase hybrid war that currently ukraine is involved in a hybrid were. explain what you mean by -- war. explain what you mean by that. mr. romanov: hybrid war is very new. [indiscernible] ukraine was among -- first who faced

hybrid war is when you don't see your enemy, don't understand, who is she? war is when you have battles in industries and towns. hybrid war is not when the army is against another army it is alsopeaceful citizens can suffer.

speaking foreign line which -- [speaking foreign language] mr. romanov: another characteristic is a huge amount warfare, and also information, and propaganda. conclusion, or the conclusion -- is that humans should not suffer. formulate the aims for our scientists to develop such technologies.

[speaking foreign language] mr. romanov: it is very strange in our nowadays world when we, from one side, when some animal or some environment is being damaged, our mentality is very sensitive to this. [speaking foreign language] mr. romanov: it is very scary. jill: of course. scientists, ofed course, as a key investment to combat this hybrid were that you speak of. what are the developments that are really the focus for ukraine right now? >>

[speaking foreign language] is immense: our key uav's. [indiscernible] mr. romanov: [speaking foreign language ] we also put high attention to av's that can do surveillance missions, carry goods with the soldiers, and also act as a rescue

get the injured. mr. romanov: [speaking foreign language] our main conclusion from the hybrid war is that the most important thing is that human life. we should put the aim to minimize human involvement. jill: when we return, a look at the most threatening of cyberattacks, and later, valerie and senna takes us on a ride on the lockheed i've been a soldier for 3 years. i've scaled the toughest terrain and faced plenty of my fears as part of my training. and for the past two years i've been a navy federal member. so even out here i can pay securely

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cyber attacks that target classified defense information are a huge threat to national security, but pentagon leaders recognize another threat that his closer to home -- an attack by advertisers -- adversaries. shown what an attack against the power grid would look like. poweryou have a generation facility, you wanted to be controlled by workers within the facility itself, not by some guy in the hotel room in san francisco. i was able to sneak away from the showroom floor to go to a hotel room to talk to a guy who is going to show us how to hack into a power plant anywhere in the world. and that guy, his na

day. in his demonstration he will show you three boxes. the first to be the attacker box -- that is how bad guys [indiscernible] it shows you the senses, and you can control the power plant from that screen. screen is the user system -- where the employee checks his or her email, and that is the vulnerability. he will show you the mistakes people make that leave power plants vulnerable to attackers. mr. day: i'm using what is called a week script. i have written out my attack here, so now i am going to in my exportation framework, i am going to go ahead and execute that. here i just passing some parameters about the exploit i want to

here i want a fishing email .xls.d employee bonuses ure myoing to try to l victims. the victim opens it -- in this case, i am leveraging a vulnerability -- an old vulnerability in windows media center. i have left the security one in place so you can see what it is doing. i have told windows media center to reach out to my attacking system and download this executeable. this victim machine has now called to me, to my attacker system. it is called a callback. it allows me to get through firewalls and other defense mechanisms. -- i could see my connection right there. he is connected to me. i am going to interact with this now.

so, now, i am effectively executing commands on the victim know -- do all different kinds of things, but in this case i can upload a control module that will allow me to connect into my sessional -- session tunnel here, and remote control the victim box. i am uploading the tools i want on the box, and my process is now executing that. the password i am putting in is one that i programmed into the widget. now you can see that i have remote access to the victim box -- so, now [inaudible] time reconnaissance the network, looking to see what he has access to.

you can see i have this remote desktop connection, which happens to be to the human machine interface system that i showed you a little while ago. i going to leverage the fact that this box has permission to access that box, and i are going to make a remote connection over to it. this user has saved his credentials. so, here, we have now successfully connected to the status system from our user's and now i, as, the attacker, have the ability to interact with this system. the victim won't actually see anything, and what they are going to experience on their side is that these machines stop working, and i am able to affect that from halfway around the world. so, couple of mistakes. one is that the operators have systems -- they were downloading email, which made them

to the phishing attack, and on the same systems they had access to these mission-critical, business-critical systems. those should be treated. -- the system used to surf the web and email should be completely different, untouchable from the systems controlling these important, critical systems. they also didn't have, in this case, patch systems. here we leveraged a vulnerability that was known in windows 7 from 2015. unpatched, the attacker leverage that. jill: when i return, army support of the saudi arabian national guard, but first, a look at the historic career of army surgeon general not in west as part of women's history month. you are watching "defense news." joined the army

have a huge tradition of serving. my dad joined the army in 1939, when he was -- it was still segregated. he fell in love with the execution. the advice he gave me when i was going off to west point -- i was very young. her parents had to sign for me. i was 17. his advice was come yourself -- don't go crazy, don't act the full, as people are watching. it was more from the female aspect than the african-american aspect of it, just because it is a new environment. people are going to be watching. people are going to be, you know, using you as an example -- if you don't do well, you, kind of, reflect on a whole gender. if you do well, that is good as well. fios i

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program manager spoke to jen justin about an ambition plan of -- ambitious plan to support a middle east ally in building a rotary wing force. >> my job -- our job as a team, where the program management for the saudi army national guard. we have been operating for 44 years, since 1973, and it is a government to government agreement, between at the time, the secretary of defense, and the king of saudi arabia. we oversee program management, and the training, advising, and assisting of the saudi national guard. we do modernization. the composition of the guard is essentially made up of 21 brigade overall -- ground brigades, and they are either l ab brigades, special security brigades, or quick reaction brigades, and the role of the guard within the kingdom is to protect the realm and the royal family. what is the state of the saudi arabian national guard right now? >> we are ashley going

program. lab our ground brigades, brigades, we are adding three more. they wantdetermined to put two out onto the east, the eastern sector. we are standing those up, and they will be completed by november, 2018. additionally, we are adding, for the first time, aviation within the saudi national guard. we are building three operational brigades and one training brigade, something similar to a center of excellence, fort rucker, where they can run their own flight school and transitions. we have finished the first brigade, and that will be complete in spring -- this spring, when we receive the 12 little birds. currently it is made up of mike models -- echoes, and when that brigade is beginning this completed, it will have 12 more -- is completed, we will have 12 morning will finish my 2033. jen:

a 20-30 -- 82030 modernization plan. what are the challenges? >> the challenges are to make it work for the saudi national guard, and it is good to be back to the kingdom is that what we are doing -- modernization and training. in the areas we are looking at is in the maintenance -- we helping them build a lifecycle minutes program for the entire ground fleet and we're looking to set up the post or modernization -- depots or modernization facilities to allow them to do that work with ground vehicles within the kingdom of saudi arabia to make sure it supports the 2030, what ation.re calling saudi-iz jen: what has been learned from the deployment of the saudi national guard to the border of yemen -- can you talk about what they have learned and how that is shaping modernization and training going forward? >> great question. currently they have one brigade of the border from the saudi na

second brigade that has gone in. they are called the prince turkey brigade. brigade justrst came back. when the first brigade came back, the lessons they were able to gather and give to the next regain going and was focused on maintenance and medical training. we took the information this last summer about when we were preparing the next brigade to go in, and intensified the efforts. also the medical training, to ensure something were to occur, the soldiers knew someone was there, capable, ready to take care of them. expect tomight we saudi arabia in terms of foreign military sales from the u.s. in the coming year or two? what do you expect them to request? biggest now the two request in the pipeline are the upgrades or the additional labs and those two new brigades. at the end,

complete, by november, 2018, when the last 150 vehicles will arrive, we'll have 1900 labs, which i think is the largest concentration for mission of labs in the world, and the next piece is aviation. ultimately, when aviation is complete in 2023, we will have 106 aircrafts in the formation of echoes, mikes and the i's. jen: let's dive into the training for the fleet of these helicopters --i would imagine that as a challenge. can you describe how you do that over the next couple of years and what that takes? >> we are can partnership with four rucker seo we and the major general's team, and we have been able to promote and program management, right now we have 41 aviators from noncommissioned officers, sworn officers, and commissioned officers that are embedded, all the way down,

helping the saudi national guard build their aviation force. we are talking about building a capability from the ground up. they started with nothing 18 months ago. partext piece is -- a big of the training contract goes through a separate contract company, and we have a series of aviation subject matter experts that work with and in conjunction with our team to be able to partner together, and we have well over 1100 of those trainers spread throughout the entire formation, and we just stood up this aviation self in the last 18 months. a combined effort brings that new capability to the saudi national guard. jill: on this week's "money minute," sponsored by the navy federal credit union, jeanette mack offers advice on the right time to cancel your credit card. service isn't great, but when it comes to your credit card, there might be a time --

it comes to credit card, there may get 10 time to make sure you're getting the most in your pocket. check for high interest rate and caps on your rewards. these could be indicators of the need for a new credit card. if you got excited by a low introductory rate or sign up bonus, but now you are depressed about the skyrocketing interest rate, or you are finding yourself wishing you had cashback options rather than reward points, or travel perks instead of merchandise. it is important to continually evaluate the cards that you keep and use. if you are thinking of closing one, close it at the right time. wait until after you have made milestone purchases like buying a car or a home because it will temporarily affect your credit. keeping the red card, and using them to reward your lifestyle is always going to be your best bet. jill: when we return, valerie insinna takes us for an insight -- exciting ride, but first, army surgeon general not eos weston why she is proud to be part of the evolving u.s. -- not he a west on why she is

part --proud to be part of the evolving u.s. army. sisters were from the u.s. army corps -- they joined. in alabama is where they had the women's army corps training. one of my sisters was in the air force. another sister was in the navy. they had just started integrating women into the navy. just seeing the limitations they had and the limitations they have, we are learning, and evolving organization. rigidnstitutions are so that you never see that. now we have women in higher numbers, combat arms, and i think it speaks volumes to what our organization in the for years i've trained dogs for the marines - like me, some of these dogs have seen many tours of duty. and for the past 15 years i've been a navy federal member. thanks to their fast approval process, when it came time to buy a new car,

my wife's little bundle of joy... ... who i just adore. open to the armed forces, the dod, veterans and their families. navy federal credit union. : west i stay in the rn because of the people and what i get

with, especially in the metal -- medical field, to take care of those that have volunteered -- our service numbers are volunteers, and the bulk of them, our youngsters now, have volunteered to make time where they know they could be injured or killed for their country, and they still do it. so, to be able to take care of, and work with people who have that dedication, and willingness to serve their country is really an honor, and that is what has kept me in it. that, and the diversity of assignments that i have had, and the things that i get to do. not a lot of people get to jump out of airplanes, repel out of helicopters, go overseas, working with line units, different hospitals -- it has just really been a great experience. the air force's biggest ongoing aircraft petition

is coming to a head with many analysts calling it a face-off between boeing and lockheed valerie insinna was able to -- lockheed. valerie insinna was able to try the version offered by lockheed. : lockheed martin threw down the gauntlet when it sent defense reporters for a ride in the t-50a trainer jet. it faces tough competition from its rivals, which include boeing, leonardo, and sierra nevada corporation. but lockheed was out to prove that its supersonic, high-performance jet trainer, which is already in service in several militaries is ready to fly today. the air force is taking a unique approach in how it will assess proposals, while the biggest priorities meeting requirements of the lower -- lowest-cost. it also incentivize companies to meet certain parameters. for

can pull 7.5 gs instead of a threshold will get six point million docs for the total value. -- testheed test by pilot set off to prove the t-50a could easily meet the performance specifications. during our.6 g's hour in the sky. he also demonstrated that the t-50a can perform 25 degrees of high angle of attack maneuvering. that could knock another $51 million from lockheed's proposal. we also conducted simulated missions. for the first time ever, two withts for craft simulated an engineer from the flight simulator. with practice taking those two surface to air missile sites. one feature i did not get to ex

because of airspace restriction. we were limited to .95. your move, boeing and leonardo. i'm ready for my next flight. show me what you got. jill: that is all this week for "defense news." be sure to join next week when we tagalong with senior officers from multiple african countries. thank you for joining us. i am jill aitoro.

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