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interview from 1995 steve jobs rips the competition and even admits he could often be wrong. >> i don't really care about being right, you know? i just care about success. >> we will speak with the man who turned those long lost tapes into a compelling new movie "early" this wednesday november 16th, 2011. captioning funded by cbs good morning. with him to "the early show" on a wednesday morning. cloudy start to the day. i'm chris wragge. >> i'm erica hill. nice to have you with us this morning. we can't talk enough about this and seems like talking about it ten days now. the latest in the penn straight sexual abuse case. for the first time hearing from the eyewitness at the center of this entire scandal. >> that is mike mcqueary who says he saw the suspect jerry sandusky raping a boy in 2002.

armen keteyian is in state college this morning with the latest. >> reporter: the 37-year-old mcqueary is expected to be a prime witness in a case against sandusky. yesterday, in a brief interview he gave us a glimpse into the emotional roller coaster he has ridden the last ten days. standing on the front porch of his home tuesday afternoon and speaking out for the first time. mike mcquarry said the scandal has turned his life upside down. describe your emotions right now. >> all over the place. just kind of shaken. >> reporter: crazy? >> crazy. >> reporter: you said what? like a? >> snow on globe. >> reporter: like a snow globe? >> yes, sir. >> reporter: last friday mcqueery was placed on leave from penn state keeping him away from saturday's game in part over concerns about his safe. mcqueary had told the grand jury in 2002 he witnessed former

coach jerry sandusky rape a boy as young as 10 in a locker room shower. in reports, mcqueary reported to head coach joe paterno but not police. a team source tels cbs news mcqueary told some of his players he did the right thing and put a stop to the alleged assault. tuesday, he would not say any more about his role citing ongoing investigations. >> this process has to play out and i just don't have anything else to say. >> reporter: in addition a law enforcement source familiar with the sexual abuse investigation told cbs news that more victims have come forward and they are currently being vetted by the pennsylvania state police. >> there is going to be -- there is going to be more. >> reporter: an attorney who represents one of the eight alleged victims referenced in the grand jury report. just give me a sense how your client is feeling right now, his range of emotions? >> he was really identified with the penn state football community and that culture and to see what that culture, the

fall from grace in the last few weeks has been painful so he has been dealing with his own issues resulting from the sexual abuse and on top of that now, he has got to deal with the issues that are surrounding the football program. >> reporter: according to an e-mail obtained by the associated press, mcqueary now says after stopping the assault, he discussed it with police. but a university spokesman told us yesterday, to her knowledge, no police report was filed. erica? >> armen keteyian at state college in penn state, thanks. jeff anderson is with us who specialized in sexual abuse acase and representing some of jerry sandusky alleged victims. the new details coming out, armen speaking to mcqueary there yesterday and the e-mail he touched on that we learned about in which mcqueary said did he go to police, how is that sitting with your victims? >> well, these new revelations

and sandusky's denials really are causing for the survivors and these victims and their families really re retraumaticization and they are suffering despair and confusion and fury because sandusky and those around him remain free to speak and to deny. and every time they speak and deny they are really putting salt in the wounds they are really putting a daygger in the heart, they are really wounding the soul even further and, in that way, we are really trying to work with these survivors to help them in their recovery protect them and let them know that something can be done and will be done about what has been

done. >> reporter: we are learning as we just learned from armen keteyian on the ground there, he is told more victims have come forward, more alleged victims and they are now being vetted. have you been contacted by more alleged victims in the last couple of days? >> yes, we have. we have been contacted by a number of families and the victims' families. all of them expressing a desire to make the truth known about what happened to them and their families and, in particular, a desire a courageous desire to make sure that other kids are not harmed because in the final analysis, what the victims and the survivors, courageous survivors we work with want first, is to be believed and, second, to make sure that other kids are not harmed the way they were and are and that is what we are working so hard. >> making sure no child is

harmed, a lot of discussion about how this was handled by the university. what do you feel the actions should be on a university level? :there is question that there is here an institutional failure, a cover-up, if you will by a trusted authority figures throughout the institution. and what this institution has to do is take immediate action to speak the truth, take action to make sure that no further kids are harmed in the future and to reach out to the survivors and to make sure no further harm is done to them that their privacy is respected and action is taken by those at the top on down to make sure that they do not allow other kids to be hurt the way so many kids have been by sandusky and by the institutional cover-up cover-up. >> jeff anderson, appreciate your time this morning. thank you. >> you're very welcome.

i want to turn to the story involving the white house which we are learning about this this morning. the secret is trying to track a bullet fired into the president's home. >> this morning, a manhunt led by the secret service is on the hunt now. chip reid has more from the white house. >> reporter: the secret service says they know who they are looking for and they believe he could well be a danger to the president. 9:30 last friday night, police responded in force to reports of shots fired near the white house. they found this car crashed and abandoned near the roosevelt bridge about eight blocks from the white house. a semiautomatic rifle was inside. the car belongs to 21-year-old oscar or tega hernandez. >> this is a man who just charged a rifle in downtown d.c. i think that speaks volumes. >> reporter: tuesday, secret service agents found a cracked window at the white house and a

bullet that had been stopped by bullet-proof glass. ortega hernandez has not been conclusively linked to the shooting but the secret service are searching for him spurred on by evidence he has a fixation on the white house. now he is on the run, they are said to fear what he might do next. the president is now on the other side of the world in australia and when this shooting occurred five days ago, he was in california. chris and erica, back to you. >> cbs' chip reid at the white house for us thank you. speaking of the president, a few hours ago, he announced a brand-new military partnership with australia. >> his trip there is sending a message to another big country across the pacific, china. senior white house correspondent bill plante is traveling with the president and joins us this morning from canberra australia. >> reporter: the u.s. is ramping up its military presence in south asia and officials say it's about disaster aid and

combating terrorism and piracy but what the president doesn't say outloud anyway is that it's also about countering china's aggressiveness. >> we welcome a rising peaceful china. you know what they have been able to achieve in terms of lifting hundreds of millions of people out of poverty over the last two decades has been nothing short of remarkable. with their rise comes increased responsibilities. it's important for them to play by the rules of the road. >> reporter: the new agreement with long time american ally australia calls for u.s. marines to begin training with australian forces in the northern part of the country, near the shipping lanes of the south china sea. 250 marines will arrive nemt year. they will eventually grow to a task force of 2,500 and rotate

through basises australia. the president's message is despite defense cuts the u.s. intends to build up its presence in this region and to remain a pacific power. erica? >> bill plante in australia for us this morning, thanks. take a look at the fallout from the "60 minutes" reports how insider trader regulations don't necessarily apply to congress. >> nancy cordes is on capitol hill with the latest on that story for us. >> reporter: the stock act has been languished on capitol hill for years, never getting much attention. but since that "60 minutes" piece aired they picked up 19 cosponsors bill in the house and for the first time ever it's been introduced in the senate. in the "60 minutes," steve kroft sat down with peter schweizer who found some red flags in the financial disclosure forms of members of congress. >> the fact is if you sit on a health care committee and you

know that medicare for example, is considering not reimbursing for certain drug that is market moving information and if you can trade stock off of that information and do so legally, that's a great profit-making opportunity and that sort of behavior goes. >> reporter: the story prompted massachusetts republican senator scott brown to introduce the stock act, a bill to prohibit insider trading by members of congress and the people who work for them. >> if we have people dealing in sense sieve information they shouldn't take the information and line their pockets with money. >> reporter: a version of the bill was first introduced in the house seven years ago by former washington state representative brian baird. >> how many cosponsors did you get? >> i think we go to six. >> reporter: six doesn't sound like a very big amount. >> it's not, steve. you could have national cherry pie and get a hundred cosponsors, i mean. >> reporter: john boehner argues there are guidelines for congressional investments making

a bill like this unnecessary. >> i have not made any decisions on day-to-day trading activities in my account and haven't for years. >> reporter: but senator brown and other supporters believe a new law would send an important message. >> we are just like you. if we have someone in congress that is using insider trading, they should be punished just like you. >> reporter: the stock act would require members of congress to report any trade on which they make more than a thousand dollars, but the real key to success here, chris, is going to be members getting the attention of leadership which, in the past has been, at best indifferent to this bill. >> nancy cordes on capitol hill for us thank you very much. new york democratic senator kirsten gillibrand joins us from capitol hill. good to have you here with this this morning, senator. >> thank you. >> you make the rules in washington but obvious congress is going at a different set. why does it take something on

"60 minutes" to get any action to take place? >> this is an issue i didn't realize was a problem. members of congress should never play by rules that are different from regular people and that is why this piece of legislation is so important. we need to have the oversight and accountability to make sure the rules are the same for everybody. >> i know transparency is one of your hallmarks. you were quick to jump on this and we mentioned massachusetts senator scott brown is on this issue as well. how do you police the free flow of political intelligence or insider trading whatever you call it how do you police this among congress members? >> if it's illegal, they won't be able to do this. the reason they were able to do this "60 minutes" piece is because this information is publicly available but it has to be illegal like it's illegal for erchs everyone else. it's not right to get inside information and profit that and members of congress have access to lots of information about

different laws who are being written and who will be regulated and who gets certain government contracts and they should the able to profit from the position they hold as a public servant. >> a lot of people have made money over the laxed rules over the years. this legislation like nancy mentioned a few minutes ago has been dead on arrival since 2006. how do you ensure the american people something is going to get done this time around? >> we are building some consensus around this issue and getting a number of co-sponsors in the issue. we will get more and get bipartisan support for this. i think it's something now has seen the light of date and we realize it's a significant problem and we will make a difference on it. >> you talk about getting support. saw the report. it just -- i think it -- when you look at something like this you would think there would be resounding support for something, because of the 975 federal entities, only two, congress and the supreme court, seem to be free of these rules.

why only 19 co-sponsors at this spoi? you would think everybody would want to jump on board with something like this with the approval ratings for congress being what they are. >> that's a very good point. i do think the more we make the case for this and why additional transparency and oversight and making sure it's in violation of the senate and house rules, i think putting those pieces in place will make a difference and i think that the more we talk about it with our colleagues, they would realize this is an important change that needs to be made, especially as you say, you know, the american people don't have a lot of trust in congress. they look to congress and they know it's broken and so a measure like this can begin to restore that trust. i think all of us, it's incumbent upon us to make the kind of changes the american people would expect we would make so we live by the same exact rules as everyone else does. >> you're right. i want to pivot with the last 30 seconds here. we have been talking about congresswoman gabrielle giffords. you said you've seen glimmers of

the gabby you knew before the shooting. can you describe that? >> her laugh, her smile, her stick to itness. she said i'm as tough as nails. so true about her. she is just determined she is focused and she wants to make a difference and knows her biggest challenge is healing herself and she is so committed to it. when i've watched the interviews and read the profiles the last few weeks i get inspired by her and i get inspired by how much her husband loves her and is making every effort to will her forward. it's a beautiful story and it's an american story. it's about what is west among all americans, the drive pull yourself up from your own boot straps i'm never giving up, and i just love her for that. >> senator, thank you. >> thank you. >> we have to play by the same rules. you see that report. it's ridiculous to see what people have gotten away with over the years. >> a lot of people are upset about it understandably.

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not removed campers even though the mayor has asked them to leave and has not said whether police will be called in. back to you. >> the employee who burned down a tire shop could get his job back. jason hicks admitsing to setting the fire. he says he was angry because a co-worker used his favorite paintbrush. he will spend two months in prison an his boss says he is willing to rehire him after that. an update in the murder of a law student from howard county in georgia. a grand jury there has indicted stephen mcdaniel in the murder of lauren giddings from laurel. they were neighbors. police still have not found all her remains. the ravens head back to practice today after spending those less fortunate. jamel mcclain hosting his second all dinner in north baltimore and ray lewis would hand out turkeys, several teammates helped out at both. stay with wjz 13 maryland's news station. up next former secretary of

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♪ welcome back to "the early show" on a wednesday morning. i'm yilerica hill along with chris wragge. a fascinating interview with steve jobs from 1995 we start with. the interview was recently discovered. it was thought to have been lost for years. but it's now part of a new documentary opening in theaters today. >> in this rare conversation, the late co-founder of apple is candid about many subjects including a rival tech giant. >> the only problem with microsoft is they just have no taste. we were on a mission from god, you know, to save apple. i don't really care about being right, you know? i just care about success. us, too, you know? we didn't know much.

we could build a little thing that could control a giant thing. the way that we are going to ratchet up our species is to take the best and to spread it around to everybody, so that everybody grows up with better things. >> joining us now is bob cringely who did that interview 16 years ago. he is the writer of "steve jobs the lost interview." thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> you worked with steve jobs? >> i hired and fired me three times. >> he was probably more candid with you than he may have been perhaps with some other people although he seems like a guy who never really held back. >> steve didn't have much of an internal critic if that is what you know. when we interest this interview, i knew him almost 25 years. yeah, i think he was more comfortable than he had ever been in any previous interview and after he came back to apple they were very guarded about letting him out. >> this documentary from 1995 shows us a side of the apple founder that many haven't seen before. let's take another look at

another clip here where he discusses himself in rare form. >> i'm also one of these people that i don't really care about being right, you know? i just care about success. so you'll find a lot of people that will tell you that i had a very strong opinion and they, you know, presented evidence to the contrary and five minutes later, i completely changed my mind, because i'm like that. i don't mind being wrong and i'll admit i'm wrong a lot. it doesn't really matter to me too much. what matters to sme that we do the right thing. >> that was more surprising. the back end of that little bite we see there where he says i don't mind admitting i'm wrong. that is not really the picture a lot of people had, myself included, of steve jobs. >> but it's very true. the process of evolving the products was such that there was a lot of discord. my relationship with steve was based solely on screaming. >> especially to be fired three times.

what were the firings like? does you deserve to be fired or was it him ticked off at you? >> steve could interface at any time with about six people and so he wanted to be dealing with the six most important people in his life at that moment and if you were important to him, he would, you know, do anything -- you would hear from him seven times a day. but if you dropped off to six, you didn't exist. >> so much talk about steve jobs since his passing. what makes this interview unique? when you went back and looked at this footage in your dealings with him, what makes this a little different? >> first of all, we didn't know it existed. you know? we did the interview for my series from '95 which has been seen in 60 countries. it's a 69-minute interview. we use nine minutes of it. the rest was thought lost because we lost all of the master tapes in shipping. and then the director when steve jobs died the director said, i think i got a copy of that interview in my garage. and he had never told any of us that he had a copy of it. and i immediately asked which of

the other 124 interviews he had a copy of and none of them. so he pulled it out and we looked at it and we were amazed how it held up over the years. if you know about his return to apple, the imac iphone, itunes and all of those things coming, it really says a lot about steve and his process. >> was there anything in rewatching this interview 16 years later you had forgotten about or that surprised you? >> i had forgotten about everything! you know yes and no. what i loved about it was that it really revealed steve. this is an unedited interview. it's a nonmovie. there is no music in this thing so we have 69 minutes with steve jobs which has never been seen before and will never be seen again, you know? it's unique. >> was this something that stood out to you, though, do you have a favorite moment to take away from this? >> yeah, i think so. he tells a joke, you know? there's -- you know, steve jobs pretending to be henry kissing

ger calling up the pope and getting them to wake up the pope at the vatican. who would have guessed. >> not something i would envision. great stuff, though. >> what a find in that garage and what a phone call that must have been. bob, thanks very much. >> to find out moyer about steve jobs, the lost interview go to earlyshow.cbsnews.com. if nothing else, to see that imitation and see that in theaters today. jeff glor is at the news desk with a check of your headlines this morning. 35 minutes past the hour. >> good morning. anti-wall street protest in downtown seattle turned violate. half a dozen marchers were arrested and police used pepper stray on others. protesters say a pregnant woman was among those sprayed. zhuuccotti park they have moved back in but not allowed to bring tents owner other xamping gear. the latest polls indicate four different candidates have a legitimate chance to win the iowa caucus in january.

national correspondent dean reynolds is in des moines with the latest on that. hey, dean. good morning. >> good morning, jeff. >> reporter: according to the pollsters in iowa while the race is still influx the top tier of candidates appears to be set. a four-way dead heat in the latest iowa polling with herman cain ron pawl and mitt romney and newt gingrich all within striking distance of each other has a sobering statistic for each one of them. 60% of the survey's spont respondents could still be persuaded to support someone organ their top choice. >> things are crowded right now and getting more so. i think you're seeing the candidates put on their final push and caucus-goers are responding by spreading out their vote. >> reporter: having raises $3 million since october 1st, gingrich will soon be running campaign ads to bolster a plan to be here 40 of the next 48 days leading up to the caucuses. >> the news media said i was

done in june and july. yesterday in jefferson, iowa somebody introduced me as the front-runner. you can't tell what is going to happen. >> reporter: while cain is a percentage point or two ahead in the latest poll. what would be an acceptable finish in this state for you? >> we have set our target of finishing in the top three. now, are we planning to try to win first place? yes. but in politics, as you know you can't always predict the exact outcome. >> reporter: especially iowa politics. four years ago, social conservative mike huckabee won the contest. could another social conservative like michele bachmann or rick santorum pull off another upset? >> this poll says no. times have changed. >> reporter: finishing in the top tier of candidates in iowa is not always something of long-term significance. exactly four years ago, one poll here had mitt romney in first

place, followed by huckabee then former new york mayor rudy giuliani and fred thompson. john mccain, the eventual gop nominee, placed fifth. jeff? >> dean reynolds in des moines thanks. coach k is now the winningest coach in division i college basketball history. mike krzyzewski racked up his 903rd win as duke beat michigan state last night. krzyzewski broke a record set by his mentor and his former coach, it is a bit foggy out there, and where it is not foggy it is raining. showers in the region through the day. no surprise, it was in the forecast yesterday. in other words, there is continuity. now we are not patting ourselves on the back, i am saying that to let you know as you take a look at the forecast this rain will get out of here later tonight and we go on

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the middle east has always been a flash point in world politics. at this particular moment the region is tense with the u.s. pull out from iraq and iraq's nuclear program and the fall from the arab spring. >> joining us is william cohen. his latest thriller is "blink of the eye." congratulations on the book. we will talk about the book coming up. i want to ask you about a few things first. about what we are dealing with on a day-to-day basis here. in times of war, presidents often look to their commanders on the ground for accurate information. yesterday, during the senate armed services committee meeting, the chief acknowledged not one commander on the ground

advised it would be wise to pull all of the troops out of iraq which is what president obama is doing the next few weeks. what advice would you have given and how do you feel the president has acted in this situation? >> i didn't see the interview. i saw just snippets of the replay and the question for me would be did the top military adviser meet with the president and say here are the options? if we keep a certain number of our troops there, under what circumstances are they under our jurisdiction, our rule our immunity, are they under the rule of the iraqis? that would be a big issue for the president's side. but, clearly, he has to have a series of options presented to him and from that give and take that i saw, it was unclear to me whether or not he was asked his opinion, whether it's wise unwise, whether levels of troops from 10,000 20,000, i heard the number 3,000. at one time that number was being discussed. hard for me to make a judgment on that. i think clearly the president of

the united states commander in chief needs to have the advice straight advice coming from the the -- his adviser, principal military adviser in terms of what are the risks involved in keeping our troops there, what are the rewards if we do keep them there the seeds of democracy settled enough that we can leave and believe that iraq can defend itself adequately? those are issues any president has to have as key advisers give. >> in terms of some of those issues, some of this did come up. a little bit of an exchange between senator mccain and leon pa net a and saying the president should have done a better job negotiating. secretary panetta said you're dealing with a sovereign nation. we can't tell them essentially what to do. i mean, do you agree with that? at the end of the day, you do have to defer to the country are you? >> at the end of the day that is our position and every country that we operate, we are there at the -- at the invitation and the severance of the sovereign government and if

we want us to leave, we have no choice but to leave unless we intend to occupy a country and this whole effort was set up to create a democracy which means that they are a sovereign country and they will make their own determination. >> we talked about iran last week finding out they are closer to developing a nuclear weapon than originally thought. what can president obama do besides sanctions to prevent that from happening? >> the sanctions have to be intensified. the key here would be both russia and china. we have been unwilling to really join in serious sanctions, which could present the leaders of iran with an option. either they change their policy or face regime change because the economic sanctions could be so sever. i think absent that you're looking at the potential of a military option and, here, you would want the best advice from your military advisers. is this something that would be wise to do and that is something i think the president is in the process of -- >> especially not to take it lightly lp speaking of nuclear threats. this is the focus of your book.

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♪ good morning everybody. welcome back to "the early show" here. top of the hour on a wednesday morning, 16th of november. i'm chris wragge along with erica hill. >> i know the shot of central park, the leaves are amazing but today the grass is green too. >> a nice shot. the late bloom is pretty stuff out here right now. coming up proper health care is not an affordable option for growing americans but one senator in maine is offering a unique paying option to allow patients to barter their services like housecleaning or repairs to help earn credits to pay for doctor visits. for many families this is a life line and we will go there and see how it works. >> a great example of a community together in different

ways which you'll see this morning. also we will take a look at new income rules for credit cards. these could affect pretty much everybody who is trying to get credit, doesn't have an income of their own. even if you make good money and your kids are in school and your spouse maybe a stay at home parent and perhaps your child in college turns out they may not be able to get a credit card in their own name. why have these rules changed and what can you do if you or a loved one follow under the new rules and gets turned down but you need to build credit? carmen wong ulrich will answer those questions for us. four republican candidates, herman cain and ron paul and mitt romney and newt gingrich tied in iowa. michele bachmann is trailing all by double digits and now she is criticizing for not being conservative enough. congresswoman michele bachmann joins us this morning from storm lake iowa.

good to have you with us. >> good to be with you, erica. thank you. >> you have a new website out and new ad on that website. you go after mitt romney on flip-flopping and after rick perry on immigration and in that ad, there is also a clip of newt gingrich and nancy pelosi talking about the importance of working together. why attack newt gingrich on that point when so many americans have said -- and you've seen i know the approval ratings for congress -- they really want their lawmakers to start working together in washington to finding some sort of way that they can work out a bipartisan answer to so many of the issues. >> well, the website is called nosurprises2012.com. it highlights the differences between the candidates. i think when we come up to the point where we are going to be having a debate with barack obama, we want to make sure that our candidate on the republican side doesn't have any issues where the president of the united states is identical to our candidate.

that is why this is such an important website. no-surprises 2012.com because it highlights the real difference that there are and our candidates, many of them are compromised with barack obama. i'm the only candidate in this race that has no compromise and that is why we want people to know about the differences. >> you say you want to make sure they are not identical on any issue with president obama. again, when you look at that bit that you put in of newt gingrich and nancy pelosi talking about working together why is that a bad thing to try to work across the aisle? >> well, this highlights just one of the many examples where former speaker newt gingrich had positions that are really against what the people in the primary states are looking for. he was standing with nancy pelosi to advocate for a national sales tax on energy. that's not what we need right now in our economy. he was also the chief author of the individual health care

mandate and that is what is known as obama care. no one wants to see that either. and also he was taking $300,000 from fannie and freddy to influence republicans to support fannie and fedy. it's not being personal. this isn't being is notty to any of the other candidates. it's saying wre with we stand on the differences and there is a difference between the candidates. >> you're not saying it's a bad thing to work with people who may have a difference of opinion when you're working with the american people? regardless of the issue it's okay to discuss things and work across the aisle? >> of course, it is. i work with the other side as well. right now, i'm working with other members of congress and we are coming together on a big project that is going to affect a xust statescouple of the states. that's what we want to do to get something done and i'm in the process of doing that myself. that is a big difference between working together to advance

something good versus working with speaker pelosi to put a brand-new national energy tax on all of the american people which is going to make our country far less competitive with cap and trade. >> let's talk about iowa now. we mentioned the latest bloomberg iowa poll is out showing a dead heat for cain paul and romney and gingrich. you're trailing at 5% and polling out there saying it could change. people have not made up their minds. you are trying to separate yourself from other republican candidates as the more conservative option. are you concerned, in some way, though, you could isolate yourself from other americans, especially if you do become the nominee? because you will need to appeal to a vast range of americans, including many moderates who are up for grabs as we know, and independents? >> not at all. this is an extremely fluid race. quite a few of the polls show that 70% of the people are undecided. here in iowa when the vote came, i was the one who one the straw poll in less time than any other candidate and the only

other woman ever to win the iowa straw poll so we are focused on january 3rd. i came from a state like minnesota. the first woman ever to win in minnesota as a republican woman to go to washington and i did that by appealing to democrats and independents and moderates and i can do that because people see me as a straight-shooter. i say what i mean i mean what i say, and i don't dance around. i'm not a politician. i'm a real person. that's what people are looking for. >> speaking of meaning what you say. you have a new memoir out next week. in it you talk about president bush. at one point you touch on the t.a.r.p. program saying that at this point he and secretary had kind of a quote, bailout socialism. those are strong words to use, especially socialism which does not sit well with a number of conservatives. >> well, i'm looking forward to the new book that's coming out next week. but, again this is a place where i am very different from the other candidates in this race. in that i stood up and i opposed

the 700 billion bailout just like this summer i opposed the center committee that is coming out now. this is will have very real differences and what we are going to see is that in almost a trillion dollars will be cut out of the defense budget and we just had a letter come out from defense secretary panetta that said we will see our military at its lowest level of troops since 1940 1940, after ten years lowest number of ships since 1914 and lowest level of aircraft in our air force ever and we be will at a tremendous disadvantage militarily and a tremendous disadvantage economically. so i was right last summer when i said we needed not to form the super committee and instead prioritize our spending last summer. >> you feel the current spendizing wrong and when it comes to defense a lot of talk about troops. an interesting exchange yesterday.

in this testimony about the decision to pull the troops out of iraq and exchange between senator mccain and secretary panetta. senator mccain felt that more negotiating should have been done. secretary panetta -- i'm having a tough time talking this morning! excuse me! secretary panetta saying essentially we are in negotiating with the sovereign nation. you cannot tell them what to do. you cannot force them to allow american troops to remain there with some sort of immunity. do you agree that everything was done that could have been done especially after hearing from defense secretary panetta? >> absolutely, it wasn't done. president obama absolutely failed on this issue of iraq. don't forget in the amount of time that we have been there, we have expanded 4,400 lives to liberate iraq as well as 805 billion dollars. iraq will not be able to stand against iranian influence. we have seen an iraqi general make his way to iran to saek a piece. saek

seek a peace. iraq is a wealthy country and i'm calling on president obama to go back to the negotiating table. iraq should pay us back to the money -- >> can you force another country, though, to do what you want? is that the best way for diplomacy? >> there's a lot that could have been done behind the scenes and president obama failed. president obama wasn't in direct communication on a regular basis with the leadership in iraq. it had been a long time since he had been in communication. he disadvantaged this situation. he took his eye off the main issue in the middle east which is a nuclear iran and now we found out last week, in the iaea error report that ion could have vl well what it needs to have a nuclear weapon. this is history changing. and president obama has failed us. when it comes to iraq, if you can consider what the united states is expended at the least the president should have gotten something. we got nothing out of this deal. president obama completely

failed. he had -- he had a war that was won and he is determined to lose the peace. this is significant. >> congresswoman we do have to leave. >> back the trillion dollars to owe us. >> i don't want the satellite to cut you off so i have to do it. thank you for your time. >> thanks. good morning to you here is jeff glor at the news desk with a check of today's other headlines for us. in our news here for the first time since the penn state sexual abuse scandal broke we heard from the assistant coach near the center of the investigation. 37-year-old mike mcqueary has been placed on administrative leave now. he told a grand jury in 2002 he saw former defense coach jerry sandusky sexual abusing a boy in a locker room shower. armen keteyian has spoken with mcqueary. >> reporter: describe your emotions right now. >> all over the place. just kind of -- shaken. >> reporter: crazy? >> crazy. >> reporter: you said what?

like a. >> snow globe. >> reporter: like a snow globe? >> yes, sir. >> mcqueary said he stopped the assault he had witnessed not by physically intervening but by telling others and he said he had discussions with police about the incident. a university spokesperson tells cbs news that no police report was filed. the hunt continues this morning for oscar ortega hernandez. he may be a danger to president obama. on friday police responded to shots fired near the white house and found the suspect's car crashed and abandoned. they also found an ak-47 rifle. yesterday, the secret service found two rounds of ammunition at the white house. one hit an exterior window. so far, the two incidents have not been conclusively linked. police say hernandez is mentally ill and has a fixation on the white house. president obama was never in any danger because he is in australia now where he announced the u.s. will expandity military presence in australia next year. many seen as a move to china's actions in south asia.

tomorrow, the president travels to northern australia where apparently things can get a little bit wild, we are told. he has been given crocodile insurance. coverage of $51,000 just in case he is attacked. in the philippines, secretary of state hillary clinton clinton boarded a navy destroyer in manila. national talks on competing claims for islands for oil rights in the south china sea. she flew from there to hawaii where she was startled as you can see, during a photo-op. a hawaiian dancer carrying a torch and carrying a blue loin cloth ran past

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a doctor louisiana years because of the cost. but one medical center in maine is offering a different solutions which, in many ways is an old-fashioned payment clan. sprucing is debra barth. they will spend an our cleaning the theater and time she will eventually trade for medical care. >> i never imagined that i would be going to the doctor and paying them by raking leaves at someone else's house. >> hi, can i help you? >> i'm here to see dr. lane. >> reporter: nearly a decade true north medical center in maine has been offering its patients the option of paying with their time. part of its goal to make care accessible to everyone. for each hour of service, patients offer to the community, like debra's afternoon cleaning they earn an hour of time credit which they bank with the hour exchange portland. members of the exchange nen use the hours to barter for different services in the

community. at true north, two time credit hours equal one doctor visit. >> you're shrinking. >> it's really a brilliant concept. besides just being able to get care, using time credits actually helps our patients to see themselves differently, to see themselves as human beings with valued and valuable skills and services to offer. >> good to see you, dr. knight. >> it's an empowerment model versus feeling ashamed. it's not me going to the hospital saying i can't afford to pay, i need free care. >> is there anything warning you get at all? i. >> i do. >> reporter: doctors and patient don't directly barter. both must ploonk belong to the exchange. >> how frequently are you getting the stomach pain? >> reporter: it's up to the physicians how they use the time credit for pavement. >> i have people fix my aidthings in my house and it's a different way of getting paid for my

services. >> you're creating a community where people believe time is just as valuable as cash. >> reporter: while the community building is undeniable, it's not the only benefit. both doctors and patients say the accessibility is good for their health. >> i find when patients are somewhat invested in their health care, they tend to respond better. >> i would have just stopped going to the doctor. i would of stopped seeking care even though they i may have needed it, because financially, it became more and more of a burden. >> reporter: today, debra barth says she is healthier and, in many ways, so is her community. >> the exchanges that i've made with people, no matter what they are, if it's raking leaves or helping organizers there is this feeling of camaraderie afterwards. >> when the folks started true north, they decided any practitioner who worked with

them, they would to agree that 10% of the patients could pay either get a reduced rate or they could pay alternatively with something like this that they use the hour exchange to portland. they don't barter specifically with a doctor we should point out. that is why it works. they put time back in and pull it out. >> you hear things like that and drives the point home. she said it would have got to the point i would have stopped going for care. to think about that it's tough for a lot of people. >> a nice alternative. if you don't make any money, the rule says you shouldn't get a credit card. the critics say why it's unfair to the people at home. announcer: this portion of "the early show" sponsored by predvacid 24 hours. all day, all night. go to prevacid24hour.com for a $4 coupon. join us at mcdonald's november 10th through the 20th for the give a hand fundraiser. buy a hand and help support ronald mcdonald house charities and give hope to kids and their families.

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;a still to come this morning, the future of ford. the top executives say business is getting better, which means more jobs in this country. >> we will check out the new model of one of ford's top sellers when we come back. can't get them off the assembly

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it is now 25 past 8:00 and foggy east of downtown the moment. again down by the water. we have a rain drop on our harbor cam lenses. sharon will wrap up the rush after marty --- >> -- sleep. now to sharon -- forecast. it is one of those days it is gray, at least it is mild, 63 is the high this day. either rain or fog in your area right now. we all see rain today. now, here is sharon and wjz tv traffic control, good morning. >> good morning, everyone. unfortunately not a great commute. we do have issues, first of all on 95 or 295 in the northbound direction an accident there. still have a wreck on 70 at 40 and another one on north charles at eastlake avenue. watch for a downed tree on route 7 at joppa road.

we also -- there is continuing delays open the harrisburg expressway as well as jfx. there is a live look outside. everything there running smoother. this traffic report is brought to you by the cochrane firm. back over to you don. >> thank you. in the news this morning members of the occupy baltimore movement taking their protest to the john hopkins campus and disrupting a former presidential advisor, andrea fujii has the story. >> reporter: they were removed from campus during a speech. karl rove addressed a crowd last night at john hopkins university but was interrupted by several occupy protesters. a university spokesman says some were removed put none were arrested and no protesters were hopkins students. at the inner harbor police have not removed campers, even though the mayor has asked them to leave.

she has not said whether police will be called in. don, back to you. >> thank you very much, two people are recovering after a police involved car crash in baltimore. check out the scene last night on east federal. it is not clear who is to blame to blame for what happened but both were taken to the hospital and are expected to make a full recovery. the police department is coming under fire from the city hall. according to the sun they have spent more than 10 million dollars defending the department against lawsuits. mostly for brutality allegations. some say other parts of the budget are suffering as a result. stay with wjz 13, maryland's news station. up next a look at the only colleging america that combines liberal arts with the artisan trades and get ready for a reveal of the newest member of

the ford motor company fleet. 28 past the hour. we will be back in half an hour.

welcome back to "the early show." i'm erica hill, along with chris wragge. you may have heard congress may vote to keep pizza and frerch fry french fries on the school menu. the head of a lunch school program didn't like the nuggets, the fries, the processed, frozen foods that didn't have much nutritional value and said we are done with them, i am replacing them.

now kids are eating salads. they go and pick out fruit on their own which she keeps available for them all day long and get this. it costs her less than feeding kids the old way. it's a great story and part of our american spirit series this morning. elijah wood has returned to the role of mumble in "happy feet two." i think "happy feet one" did okay. >> yeah. >> we will talk to him about that and the new hobbit movie. he looks a lot better right now. >> his feet do. first the latest figures show retail sales rose in october partly because americans were buying more cars. >> another positive sign in a year of recovery for the auto industry. cbs news business and economics correspondent rebecca jarvis talked with ford executive vice president mark fields and talks with us about that. >> one of the reasons we care about retail sales is the consumer is at the heart of the american economy. our spending accounts for 70% of our economic growth.

one of those cars that is selling right now is the ford escape. it is on track for a record year. more than 200,000 of them have been sold in 2011 and, today, ford is debuting a new model and we got a sneak peek. >> reporter: ford unveils the new model today, but is there a lot more than profitability riding on the launch. so this car is going to be made in louisville kentucky? >> right. >> reporter: how many jobs are we talking about here? >> well, we are actually putting on two shifts initially, so you're talking about 29 about 2,900 jobs. and then by the end of next year, depending upon demand we will add another shift, so it's another 1,600 jobs. so it's really a big commitment. >> reporter: in total, ford plans to add 12,000 new jobs in the u.s. over the next four years. but it might come as a surprise where the jobs are coming from. >> a number of those jobs we are bringing them back from china, from mexico and japan. >> reporter: so are you saying then you're shrinking work forces overseas and growing the work force here?

>> well, we are growing the work force here and, in many cases, we are taking work back from suppliers that we did on the outside so we are able to bring that back into ford, bring it back here into the u.s. >> reporter: and ford is not alone. detroit's big three are all adding jobs this year. sales are up across the board. and the industry is on track to sell more than 13 million cars to u.s. consumers this year. where do you think we are in the overall economic recovery? >> well, clearly, we still face economic challenges. this year, we are seeing growth in the gdp of anywhere between 1.5% and 2%. not as big a growth as we expect coming out of such a deep recession. but it is growth nonetheless. >> reporter: the worst is behind us? >> well, for the most part, unless there is some big external impact to the economy, we feel we are going to continue to see gradual growth. >> i asked fields what he meant by "some big external impact to

the economy." he said it could be something like for example that japan earthquake that hit earlier this year, it hit the car industry particularly hard because a lot of the supplies that come from japan to u.s. automakers were disrupted. however, ford he told me has put the worst of that behind it and they are still the human toll we think about. >> the car we saw a quick glimpse of is? >> the ford escape. the 2013 version on sale in june of next year and pricizing between 20,000 and 30,000. >> he mentioned in that interview with you and you pressed on him a little bit. moving some jobs back. so is this one for one? how does that work out? that is the question. because they are not being very specific yet on what those jobs could be. but it's an interesting point that ford gets some of its parts that it puts into its cars from foreign suppliers and he was saying that those foreign suppliers, well, we may actually be able to source the material from u.s. suppliers and also do

some of it internally at ford right here in the united states. that would equate to new jobs here in the united states. so it's actually not just ford that is particularly pursuing this trend, but u.s. automakers in general and one reason behind that is that some of the supplies and the work that comes from out of this country is getting more expensive. and the uaw contracts that ford general motors and chrysler have pursued with the unions here in the u.s., have gotten more affordable to the car companies and, as a result they can employ, they say, more people here in the united states. >> which would be great news. >> thank you. >> thanks, guys here is jeff glor at the news desk with a final check of today's other headlines for us. good morning again. >> good morning. facebook has issued a warning to users hackers access some accounts apparently leaving graphic images of pornography and violence. facebook official say they are experiencing a coordinated spam attack. some users have unknowingly be tricked to pacing a bad script into their ual browser bar.

some believes hackers anonymous might be behind the tack. wall street protesters are back this morning in new york and allowed to return to zuccotti park one day after police ousted them from that area in lower manhattan but it's a much smaller group than before. possibly because they are not allowed now to bring in tents or other camping gear. might be common in new york but into seattle anti-wall street march yesterday got out of hand. protesters confronted police who intoned confronted police with pepper spray. half a dozen were arrested. california of berkeley campus police shot a man after he pulled out a gun from a backpack inside the business school yesterday. police have not released his condition. in western china this morning, an awful story. at least 18 kindergartner children and two adults were killed in a school bus crash.

it was overloaded with 64 people when it slammed into a truck on the way to school. the bus had only nine seats. this morning, the website tmz is reporting paternity lawsuit against singer justin bieber has quietly been dismissed. he it vowed to take a dna test to prove he is not the father of a california woman's baby. bieber had also threatened to sue the woman. and orbit this morning, a russian soyuz capsule docked aboard the international space station. they got warm welcomes from those already on board. nasa astronaut dan burbank is the next station commander. they will stay in well, good morning. man, did it get foggy. look at that. i notice in the steam plume

from that plant, indicates a bit of an easterly flow. there is a shot. if we had a december and january are the biggest months of the year for new credit card applications. >> the but this year, some applicants have a tougher time getting a card. financial contributor carmen wong ulrich is here with us. good to see you. what are the new rules that could limit the number of cards issued. >> the card act went into effect 2009 part of it in effect october 1st. when you apply for a credit card you can't put household income as getting credit. it's individual and personal income only. you can't apply for a card saying someone else in your household makes money to pay the bills. it's what you're earning. >> on the surface that sounds like a great idea. you're not giving credit to people who can't pay for it but

it could have really serious implications. who is most effected? >> especially nonearning spouses. this is stay at home working parents who, in effect do work and they actually do help. >> very hard. >> very hard to support the household. but they will be dependent on their spouse in order to get a card. they will not be able to get credit cards on their own. of course, this creates a situation that can be potentially damaging dangerous if the marriage is not a happy one and you need to book a flight, you need to book a car. it creates this crippling dependency on the person in the household who is making the money and students of course. >> which seems a little odd if the relationship is crumbling you're going to go to see a judge and a judge is going to award you half of the income anyway. >> in that case but, in the meantime, you don't have access to credit. this was all formed to basically stop the proliferation of credit card applications on college campuses. >> right. >> to stop students. the other people are affected by this are students.

so if you're a full-time student, you cannot get access to credit because you do not have earned income. that is the population they were targeting but, unfortunately, it affects other people. >> which makes sense. i remember in college they say put down what your loans are and that could be income. >> wow. for students as well they can't build credit. i know quite a few new england people who have been working full-time for years and cannot get a credit card. >> you need to build that credit. it's essential for buying a home and getting an apartment. what do you do? >> so here is what you can do. you can get a secured card. now of course, this requires some money you put down a cash deposit. from that catch deposit basically that is your credit line. if you manage that well they will eventually extend you credit on the cash deposit. shop around. go to low cards.com or bank rate.com to build your own credit. you could be an authorized user on someone's account. you're dependent on someone else credit but it is reported on

your credit reports and fico considers it with your score. >> it seems like it would be much easier for what credit card companies can do they would be able to decide from between getting back to your point before who is a college kid enwho could potentially misuse a credit card or who is a stay at home parent. >> it's interestings for how this plays out. this came into affect october 1st. we have ten community property states in this country basically the earnings are community income and community property so we have to see how it plays out because i don't think it's sustainable. >> i don't get how a credit card can say that is not your income but yet if you're married it is. >> you're living in the house. >> you are probably paying the bills too. >> there you go. trying to make sense of things you two. >> i'm trying. >> thank you. this morning, we continue our series focusing on the people who represent the american spirit. every day 30 million students order a school lunch and right now, congress is considering throwing out new rules that would make the lunches healthier. >> we talked about that yesterday a little bit. french fries would be okay. pizza sauce would be considered

a vegetable. i visited a lunch lady you may call her, last week in northern california has changed the menu in her town and turns out the students there can't get enough of it. >> do not take that! it's mine! >> last one! last one! >> reporter: salads and soup. freshly made salsa. not exactly your typical school lunch. meals made from scratch without a processed frozen product in sight. >> i just didn't like the canned cal is a. i don't do that at home. that one is perfect. okay, all this needs is the cilantro. >> reporter: when michelle malm took over the california district school program it was $70,000 in the red and the food she saw sickened her. >> prepackaged burritos and prepackaged chicken nuggets and lots of just prepared boxed food. >> reporter: which was not real high in nutritional value?

>> not at all and very expensive. and very expensive. >> reporter: she found her solution in the school's own backyard. lake county is home to 300 family farms. its fertile hills offering easy access to staples like squash and pears. >> this is acorn squash and spa spaghetti squash. these are small pumpkins we will be using for pumpkin bread. >> reporter: today, the program is both profitable and nutritious. >> i like the oranges! i like this! i like -- i like everything! >> you like everything? >> i think broccoli is my favorite, my favorite vegetable. >> really? you like that today? >> it's all gone. >> reporter: when you started to make these changes, was there any resistance? >> oh, yeah, i think so. i think it was hard for the kids because there was a lot of junk food out there. >> reporter: do you think the kids are healthier now? >> absolutely absolutely. >> reporter: do they like your food? >> they love the food so that's good. >> reporter: not much left except you're working on this pear here.

i'd say you liked your lunch. >> yes. >> reporter: what did you like when it? >> the salsa was very spicy. >> reporter: kelseyville schools is a part of a movement aimed at putting healthy food in schools. >> got you loaded and ready. >> reporter: one of malm's partner is colleen, a third generation farmer. >> beyond that is the walnut orchard. what has been fun is making the connection with the kids as to where their food comes from. so now apples don't come from the shelf in safeway that this is where it comes from. >> got it! >> i got the roots out. >> reporter: the changes malm brought to kelseyville schools extend far beyond their place. at the elementary school kids tend gardens. when you're hearing growing things in the garden and then you get to try them or you see them at lunch, how does that make you feel? >> it feels good to know you made that and that you can eat it and it tastes really good.

>> reporter: do you think it tastes better because you made it and help grow it? >> reporter: at the high school, they work in the kitchen. what do you like about working here? >> it's going to teach me a lot of self-discipline out in the real world and working now. >> reporter: the response has been so positive, malm created a catering business ran out of the school cafeteria and staffed by the students. >> i did one of it. it was the big band dinner and it was for -- it was actually for our rival school and it was a fund-raiser for their band. >> reporter: funny. the rival school hired you to do their fund-raiser. >> we still made good food for them! >> can i have a salad? please? >> yes, you may. >> reporter: you know all of these kids so when you see someone you used to try to buy a bag of chips, when they get a salad one day and reach for an apple? >> it excites me because i know

they are making that transition. if we can impact those little kids with better, you know choices, then they are going to you know, we will see a change up here at the high school because they will have changed. >> what is great is a lot of the kids told us they bring home new vegetables for their family to try at home. she keeps fruit out available free all day long and provides oatmeal for break fast and high unemployment at 16% in lake county so it's important for the kids to have a good meal. >> it's so vital starting the young kids with a good meal. >> they request things all the time. she is a force of nature and incredible woman and brought about positive change. hopefully, maybe some other ideas and other schools will follow suit. up next elijah wood has happy feet again. talk about his

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elijah wood was popular actor by the age of 9 and the past decades he has surprised to entertain us in a variety of roles. >> in "happy tweet two" he lend his voice for the tuxedo penguin mumble. take a look. >> i think he is asking lie down. >> for a reason. don't you? >> yeah. >> but there are plenty of reasons to dance. >> what is mine pa? >> well, the only way to find out is to try it. come on son. it's just one big old foot after the other. no one will laugh at you, i promise. come on. on my feet. >> elijah wood joins us this morning. they are so stinkin' cute! >> aren't they? let it keep playing! >> not all kids will want those

baby penguins. >> absolutely. what is your reason for dancing? >> my reason? >> yeah. >> just pure joy of music. i don't know. i don't know that i'm a very good dancer. >> it's okay. you can still dance. you know, sometimes it's better if you don't dance in front of people. my husband would say it's better in my case. >> does he say that to you? that is such an unkind thing to say! >> don't sell yourself short. >> it's better to dance away from people's eyes. >> congratulations on this. >> thank you. >> erica saw it last night and said it is right? it's not about what we think, it's about what the kids think. >> my 5-year-old gives it two thumbs up. it's cute. the animation is great. it has a really nice message to it about working together. >> it does. >> and different species coming together to help out. >> the ultimate problem in the course of the film where the penguin community that we follow get trapped by an iceberg so they can't get out.

ultimately, all of these communities have to work together at the end in order to get them out. it is beautiful. that idea of people working together for a common goal. >> yeah. >> you know? >> you guys in terms of an animated movie you don't always get to -- sometimes you're in a studio by yourself doing the voice. this was totally different. there we have some shots of it. >> excellent. >> all of you guys. >> george! >> pretty big names there. >> matt damon, brad pitt and pink there. >> sophia is there. >> yeah. >> how different is that for you to have everybody in there to really be doing this together as a collaborative effort? >> it makes a huge difference. when you think about doing voice on your home and you're in the context of a scene and you have to react to other characters it takes a little bit of guesswork and you're solely focusing on what you're doing but a scene kind of takes life when you have other people to interact with and sometimes we were literally sharing a mike or physically interacting with each other and it takes on a life of its own. you don't then have to imagine

the scene. it kind of is happening for real. it's wonderful. >> "happy feet one" didn't do very well in the box office. only won the oscar. >> right. >> do you like this? it's been five years since the first one. you like this one as well? have the same type of success? >> it would be fantastic. it's i think a beautiful film. i think it shares some of the same messages as the first film but not a preachy message film. a film that can be enjoyed by awe dults adults and children. >> you have those jack and jill films out there. talk about the hobbit. everybody wants to see that next one. >> i got to go back to new zealand to reprize my role briefly. he is not alive during the time of the hobbit and not 50 60 years before the rings time so it was a small little cameo. >> awesome. >> we are all looking forward to it and we know you're a foodie so we know you're looking forward to thanksgiving so we

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it is five minutes before 9:00 now, a live look at our murky conditions, marty is in the first weather warning center. >> let's take a look at radar, it is foggy, or rain or a combination of both all day long, rain steady through the afternoon, forecast calls for a high of 63, lose the rain overnight, breezy, a low of 45 is pretty much on the numbers, tomorrow cloudy, 50s, but by the weekend low to mid 60s to be quite honest about it saturday and sunday. don take it away. >> the occupy baltimore movement has been quiet but when he spoke some of them had to be removed, andrea fujii

stays on the story. >> reporter: don about 15 occupy protesters were removed from campus during a high profile speech, former president bush advisor karl rove addressed a crowd last night at johns hopkins university but was interrupted by several occupy protesters. a university spokesman says some were removed but none were arrested and no protesters were students. meanwhile at the inner harbor columns have not removed campers. >> they are recovering after this crash. check out the scene. it is not clear who is to blame but both the police officer and the driver of the suv were taken to the hospital. the employee who burned down a tire shop could get his old job back soon. jason hicks admitting to setting the fire in september after he had an argument with a

co-worker about a paintbrush. hicks will spend two months in prison. his boss says he is willing to rehire him after that. the police department is coming under fire from city hall. according to the sun the budget office has spent more than 10 million defending the police department against lawsuits mostly for brutality allegations. some lawmakers say other parts of the budget are suffering as a result of that. a warning for leadfooted drivers in howard camera. speed cameras are up and running in school zones, drivers caught going 12 miles an hour or more over the limit will receive a ticket in the mail. the orioles unveiled their reworked uniforms with a tip of the hat to the past. the cartoon bird is back on the cap as you saw and yes they will be wearing orange jerseys

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