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let's find out what he was thinking. >> he once ran for high office in a race to be state governor in the u.s., but an american man who went to ukraine looking for love found only destituteion. >> all these women were respondents to my profile. i funded the trip by selling my motorcycle and truck. i quit my job at the bank and made the move. my plan was to meet, court and marry a lady in the ukraine. i proposed on the website and she accepted. living in the ukraine for about 4 1/2 months, my bank account in the u.s. dried up. i ran out of money. my land lady told me to leave. i was kicked out on the street, staying in the park. i got hypothermia, and i also had frostbite on my fingers and toes.

when i became homeless, i emailed her for help. i was now living in a train station and waiting for her and needed her to step up and help. she did not. social services found me 20 meters from the train station. i caught pneumonia and was in the hospital for three weeks. she emailed me out of the blue while i was in the hospital and she did come to visit me that same day. she didn't seem like she was interested at all. >> did she arrive? did she come to you? >> she did. we met. she said she was going to come by the next day on her lunch hour. she never showed up. >> even though i ran out of money, even though i was homeless, i had a lot of fun. i intend to go back and try my search again. >> dr. phil: okay. now, i'm glad to see you doing well. you're healthy, right? >> yes. >> dr. phil: you feel good now. >> i feel good. >> already. why the ukraine? >> well, ukrainian ladies, it's

easy to get into ukraine with a passport. you can go and meet the ladies. that's why i went on the tour. >> dr. phil: was there something about ukrainian women? >> eastern european women, they know how to cook, bake, sew. you name it, and take care of families and children and husbands, and -- >> dr. phil: can't imagine why you've been divorced twice. they can cook, sew, bake. i mean -- >> you name it. but the thing is that those skill sets have been passed down from mother to daughter and still are. unfortunately, in the u.s., we have a lot of career females. it's no longer that prevalent to see women that know how to get into a marriage and are competent and can help their husbands at the same time. >> dr. phil: you wind up over there, it doesn't go well. >> well, i think that's an exaggeration. the first trip was amazing! i mean, i'd never seen so many eligible women in one place dying to dance with you, dying to meet you, dying to do everything else with you. it's just amazing.

usually american men you see standing in line to talk to anybody that's interesting, waiting in line. maybe you get to talk to them, maybe you get to date them, maybe you get to marry them, and maybe there's a divorce waiting down the way. i mean, it's just a process here that i didn't want to repeat, in other words, where the women are eager to find marriage partners and they enjoy the idea of being married and don't want to leave them. so that's what i was looking for in the ukraine. >> dr. phil: we're going to take a break. coming up, we're going to find out why co-founders of a famous international dating agency say cary's actions are really dangerous, crazy actions. we'll be right back. >> announcer: tomorrow on an all-new "dr. phil" -- >> dr. phil: does he let you go out with friends? >> no. >> dr. phil: are you jealous of her? >> absolutely. >> dr. phil: the six quickest way to ruin to marriage. >> announcer: that's tomorrow.

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>> dr. phil: we were just talking at the break, the health care over there lags behind here. so you wound up with pneumonia, and you were actually sleeping on a bluff above the train station. >> right. and that wasn't why i was homeless, dr. phil, or without a place to stay. in the capital of the independent republic of ukraine, my land lady, after she took my rent and i was all paid up, paid in advance, she said, you know, i need you to leave because she

needed to make room for her alien 20-year-old grandson. so there was nothing else to do. >> dr. phil: you didn't get your rent back? >> i didn't get it back. >> dr. phil: so you were down to like 240 bucks. >> yeah. >> dr. phil: you proposed marriage but hadn't met her? >> i asked if she was interested in marriage and she said capital y-e-s. this is what happened. my account was -- a charge came through. my pension was going into that account. now i don't have access to it. i'm going fo need you to step up since you've already said yes to a marriage proposal to see if we can make arrangements, i can stay with you, while we're waiting to be married. so that was the situation. >> dr. phil: but you hadn't met her before. >> i hadn't met her. i saw her on email and talked to her on email. i saw her photos on email. they showed a few of them here. >> dr. phil: was that her? >> yes. >> dr. phil: and was that her that was saying yes or --

>> that was her that was saying -- it was an intermediary saying yes from what she told me. basically, there was a lady, she said, that offered to put her photos and profile online so that men could see them and decide if they wanted to contact her. >> dr. phil: let me get this right. so you proposed marriage to her and you've never met her, but you've had email chatter with her, but actually email chatter was from an intermediary. so not only did you not meet her, it was the intermediary who said capital y-e-s. >> it was somebody working with the intermediary at the time. somebody that -- somebody else supposedly is what she said that was helping the intermediary that was working with her that sent the -- that sent it out, so -- >> dr. phil: does this strike you as that you're being played? >> well, i honestly said, because when i did meet her, she said, cary, i am interested in finding a man, and she said when i read your -- just that day, when she met me at the hospital,

she said i just got your emails, five of them, and i like what i see, and that's why i'm here now. that's why i called you. and, you know, i'd like to see, you know -- to take it further, to come the next day, and to -- you know, at lunch. i said, are you going to be able to do that? she works two jobs, etc. she said yes. she said i'll give you my correct email address. >> dr. phil: why aren't you met her? >> there wasn't any desire. >> dr. phil: that happens in those email courtships. >> you're not my type. >> dr. phil: we'll be right back. >> i've been doing this for 17 years, dr. phil. i never, ever, had anyone end up homeless in the ukraine. i never,[ laughs ] anyone end up what's wrong with him? he thinks you're naked. it just looks like my milk chocolate is showing.

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>> dr. phil: well, the co-owner of a foreign affair, john adams, is here with his wife and executive client consultant tanya. now, they've been on the show before. john says plenty of men go back to the ukraine and do not end up homeless. >> dr. phil, that actually happened. >> dr. phil: how did this happen here? >> when cary first came to us, he wanted to go on the organized tour. he did. he had a wonderful time. he was introduced to lots of people.

all logistics were taken care of for him. then he came back. i think he was so enamored with everything, he wanted to go back. he said he was going to quit his job, sell his truck, and go back over there. this woman he met was not through our company at all. and i said, cary, that's kind of crazy. and he ended up homeless. i've been doing this for 17 years, dr. phil. i've never, ever, had anyone end up homeless in the ukraine. >> basically, john, the plan was to meet, court, and marry a lady in the ukraine. so i thought i'd be able to get that done within 30 days, because the ladies are -- excuse me, within 90 days. beg your pardon. that's the plan. >> i met tanya at one of the socials, cary, but it was a year and a half later before we got married. >> dr. phil: where are you from? >> st. petersburg, russia. and i think you cannot just plan for 30 days like, okay, i have

30 days. i must get married. for 30 days, you must plan what you need to do if money will run out, where you will stay, what you will eat. how are you going to get married? for god sake, you had $240 in your pocket. that's what you need to plan when you travel, to make sure that you are taken care of, not like i have to marry for 30 days, because that just puts you right in disaster. >> dr. phil: why are these women in these countries interested in americans? what's the appeal? >> a lot of women actually just are having a hard time to find some life partners, because in russia, ukraine, divorce rate is really high. people don't care about health. a lot of homeless people with no money, so people cannot afford to have family.

so they just -- you know, it's just another opportunity. it's not like american -- i want to get american just to go to united states. it's just opportunity. >> dr. phil: i'm guessing that they would want an american with enough money to get out of the country. you had $240. >> i am american. i'm very proud to be american. but why the americans love our country that much. i mean, it's nothing to do with this country. it's not like everyone is sitting in the streets and waiting somebody to come from united states to take me over to united states. >> but he was talking about just having $240 when you meet someone. >> yeah. >> dr. phil: i mean, you would want to meet someone that had the wherewithal to get you -- if you say things are lagging there and whatever, you'd want to have somebody who had a little more jacks than 240 bucks. >> that was my point, too. even if yulia shows up in the hospital and says, cary, you're perfect for me, let's get married. what would you do?

she doesn't have anything more than $240 herself. >> the sustainable income was more than $240, but there's an 8-1 differential in the ukraine. so let's say $200 is, what, 1600 of their currency. so i can tell you -- >> dr. phil: but how much does it take to get a loaf of bread? >> 500 to 800 will give you rent. about 250 to 300 will give you food. i know a family that's being fed by that. maybe a little bit more. so the rest is -- >> dr. phil: you were going to -- you wanted to stay there and do some courtship. >> because a lot of these ladies have never been out of their hometowns. they've never -- couldn't imagine going anywhere that far across the atlantic with someone they don't know. so the idea is get the relationship secure over there

and then talk about moving anywhere. you know, i think men oftentimes are too quick to take women that they meet in these countries, and that's why the men have a stigma about other men from other countries and pull them out of there and bring them across the ocean and expect them to adjust, and they do, you know, they do, but it's not easy for them. tanya tells the story about new york quite adequately. >> yeah, yeah. but when i was move in 15 years ago here, actually, i knew where i will stay, what i will do, how much money i will make, who will -- you know, i knew everything. for god sake, i travel next door and i know everything about hotels. my point is you should do some homework before you --

>> dr. phil: you're running for governor in arizona in 2012. >> 2014. >> dr. phil: would you like to be married by then? >> i would like to be. >> dr. phil: so you're going back to the ukraine. >> i'd like to go this spring. >> dr. phil: you're going on your own? >> i'd like to since i know 10 or 12 cities. i walked from the train and all around and met the most delightful people. and it wasn't horrible at all. it was absolutely fabulous. yes, i didn't come back with a wife. that was the reason why i came. but i enjoyed myself. i mean, the way that it's put is not the way that it happens. >> dr. phil: you say the way it was put. you got over there and you got stranded and sick and frost-bit and pneumonia and spent weeks in the hospital. >> and i met the most fabulous people over there, men and women, at all hours of the day. >> dr. phil: they weren't fabulous enough to give you a place to stay. you were sleeping on a bluff by the train station. >> at that time i was going to meet yulia.

i had to make a decision between staying -- >> dr. phil: i have to say two things. then we have to move on. i just want you to be safe. and that's what you're saying. >> absolutely. >> dr. phil: it's just about being safe. i want you to be safe. and you seem to have kind of a refreshing naivete about some of this, and i mean that in a nice way. i don't mean that in an ugly way. but yet you seem to be -- you seem to categorize and stereotype american women, of which there are like 180 million. there are a lot of women here. >> what i stereotype is the way i have to meet and what happens after the meeting, which is the business of, you know, just in arizona, when i go country dancing, which i love to do, you know, just standing in line to try to talk to someone

interesting, trying to get them out on the dance floor, trying to do this or that because there's a lot of competition from other men. now, when i go back, the reason i want to go to the small ukrainian cities, there aren't that many men that speak the native language. [speaking russian] and there isn't very many men in general over there in the smaller cities. >> dr. phil: so the odds are in your favor. >> the odds are in my favor. >> can i say one thing? >> dr. phil: yes, then we have to go. >> very quickly again, we've been doing this for 17 years. this i say is an extreme example of something that isn't characterized of what normally happens with people who go over. thousands and thousands of couples marry from not just russia, ukraine, but all around the world. and the world is becoming a much smaller place. you need to do your homework. i think you need to go with

professionals, with experts, that can help you throughout the process. cary's story is extraordinary. you have to remember, this is an extraordinary case. it is not representative of most or all the cases that i've been associated with all the years. when he went with us, he was fine and everything was fine. he came back fine. when he went by himself, letters were written by somebody else. >> dr. phil: there's a right way and a wrong way. >> absolutely. >> dr. phil: we'll be right back.

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