good morning. it is tuesday, august 7th, 2012. welcome to studio 57 at the cbs broadcast center. police follow white supremacist links to the gunman who killed six people in wisconsin. and the white house says syria's regime is crumbling from within. we'll look at syria's future with king abdullah of jordan. president obama falls further behind mitt romney in campaign fund-raising, and a dramatic victory for the u.s. women's soccer team in london. but first, as we do every morning, we begin with a look at today's "eye opener," your world in 90 seconds. >> we are looking at ties to white supremacy groups. >> new details emerge about the

sikh temple shooter. >> wade michael page. >> the southern poverty law center identified him as a neo-nazi. >> he would often mention the racial holy war that was coming. >> he was gentle and a happy child child, and what happened god only knows, because i don't. >> he'd ask the middle class to pay more in taxes. it's like robin hood in reverse! it's romney hood. >> mitt romney had out-earned president obama for the third straight month. romney's campaign raised $101 million in july. >> today in arizona, a plea deal could be finalized for accused tucson shooter jared lee loughner, sparing him the death penalty. >> government troops found outside of the temple ahead of a major assault to destroy the rebel forces. >> they're amassing in aleppo as we speak. would he use, in your judgment, chemical weapons? >> in california, a raging oil refinery fire is contained. >> black smoke. >> pillowing up. >> can be seen for miles around

the bay area. >> 90-year-old angela, the sky-driving grandma. >> you want to go again? >> not today. >> this is a little weird and a whole lot of dangerous. this guy is riding a shopping cart in the middle of a four-lane highway! >> all that -- >> it's in! gold medal match! >> i think everybody peas in the pool. chlorine kills it, so it's not bad. >> jets training camp is nothing but a circus. >> buck wild out there. >> and all that matters -- >> american judo fighter is the first athlete to fail a drug test during the olympic games, the drug marijuana. >> on "cbs this morning." >> they became suspicious when he kept stopping the match and saying "what are we fighting for, man?" captioning funded by cbs welcome to "cbs this morning." for the first time since sunday's deadly shooting at a sikh temple near milwaukee,

we're hearing from the killer's family. >> wade michael page shot six people to death and wounded more before he was shot and killed in a shoot-out with police. elaine kee hannquijano is live from wisconsin with more. >> reporter: good morning to you, gayle and charlie. well, we now know that the feds actually had come across wade michael page before and that he had a criminal record. we also know about his taste in music, which may explain why authorities are describing this as a possible hate crime. according to the southern poverty law center, page was a member of two skinhead bands, including this one, definite hate. in this 2007 performance in south carolina, the group played under a giant swastika flag emblazened with the face of adolf hitler. >> we are looking at ties to white supremacy groups, of course. >> reporter: in a 2010 interview, page said he started his other band, end apathy,

because the value of human life has been degraded by being submissive to tyranny and hypocrisy that we are subjugated to." monday, his mother, laura page said the emerging portrait of her stepson was unrecognizable. >> he was gentle and kind and loving and he was a happy person and a happy child. and what happened god only knows, because i don't. >> reporter: she is divorced from page's father, and the last time she saw her stepson was at christmas in 1999. >> when he lived in texas with us, he had hispanic friends and he had black friends, you know. there was none of that. >> reporter: several years ago, page's name turned up as part of several federal investigations, although page himself was never a target and there was no intelligence to subject he posed a threat. page's criminal record included convictions for criminal mischief and arrests for driving under the influence. he was also a soldier, last stationed at ft. bragg, north

carolina but was demoted in 1998 for being drunk on duty and absent without leave. >> he was in the military 1992 to 1998. he had a general discharge and that he was ineligible for re-enlistment. >> reporter: the shootings have once again raised fears about violent attacks by right-wing extremists, which are on the rise. according to the fbi, the splc and the antidefamation league, which track hate groups. sources tell cbs news page bought a .9-millimeter pistol here at the shooter shop. >> we see a lot of people every day, and he didn't stand out if he was in here. >> reporter: he bought the gun on july 28th just one week before his shooting spree. the oak creek police officer who was shot by page, lieutenant brian murphy, is still in critical condition. he was shot at least eight

times. now, page's attack was captured by surveillance cameras at the temple as well as dashboard cameras on the police cruisers that responded, and investigators are now reviewing that footage. charlie and gayle? >> elaine, thank you. in the race for the white house, new figures show mitt romney has raised more money than president obama for the third month in a row. in july, he took in $26 million more, while the president's campaign is spending money as fast as it can raise it. nancy cordes is at the white house. nancy, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, charlie. the obama campaign says it always expected to be out-raised by an energized republican party eager to take back the white house, but what this means in practical terms is that the president ends up having to spend more time fund-raising, like he did last night, just to try to keep pace. at a $500-a-plate fund-raiser in connecticut last night president obama rolled out his newest attack line about governor romney's tax plan. >> he'd ask the middle class to pay more in taxes so that he

could give another $250,000 tax cut to people making more than $3 million a year. it's like robin hood in reverse. it's romney hood. [ laughter ] >> reporter: from there, the president headed to an even pricier fund-raiser at the connecticut home of movie mogul harvey weinstein, where entertainment luminaries like anne hathaway and aaron sorkin reportedly paid nearly $40,000 each. it's a sign of how fierce the money race is that mr. obama spends about as much time on the fund-raising circuit as on the campaign trail. and yet, he is still being out-raised this summer even before you factor in deep-pocketed conservative outside groups. today, one of those groups, americans for prosperity, will announce it's spending more than $25 million on ads just in the next three weeks. >> under president obama -- >> $5 trillion in debt that has been added under this administration. >> americans for prosperity and our central organization, the

foundation, will spend about $110 million this year. >> reporter: in a recent fund-raising e-mail, the obama campaign told supporters, "if we don't step it up, we're in trouble." in june, the campaign spent more than it brought in and in the last three months it spent $131 million total on ads in battleground states. >> romney admits that over the last two years, he's paid less than 15% in taxes. >> reporter: it's a pricey but effective approach according to democrat ed rendell, who is the former governor of pennsylvania and the author of the new book "nation of wusses." >> they're following our strategy to really lock in americans' minds an image of governor romney that's going to be very difficult for governor recommendey to get out of. >> reporter: and the obama campaign points out you don't need to raise more money to win. back in 2004, president george w. bush was out-raised several months in a row by the democrat john kerry and still went on to win rather easily, charlie and gayle. >> nancy thank you. ith us now connecticut senator

joe lieberman, the former democratic vice presidential candidate, now a political independent. his book "the gift of rest" comes out in paperback today. we're pleased to have him. welcome. >> thank you, charlie. >> we want to talk economics, politics as well as foreign policy, specifically starting with syria. what more do you want the united states to do that it is not now doing? >> well, i'd like to see us take a side, clearly. i mean, i don't think it's enough to just say assad should go. assad's a dictator. he's killed almost 20,000 of his people. he is also the number one ally of our number one enemy in the middle east, probably in the world, iran. we have a moral responsibility and a strategic opportunity to do more than we're doing there. so, what would i do? i'd embrace the cause of the opposition to assad. i'd begin to work with them closely. i'd give them weapons. that's the key. and i'd help them set up safe zones from which they can act. if we don't do that now -- well, if we do it now, i think we'll

really help tip the military balance on the ground and bring the conflict to a quicker end and we'll also be in a position to work with a new government to take shape in syria. >> but you do not want to see american planes flying over syria, you do not want to see the united states involved in any kind of effort as it did in libya? >> well, i certainly don't want to see american troops on the ground, but i would leave open the option of selected use of our air power along with our arab allies who are prepared to join us, i believe to, for instance, protect the syrian people from being attacked from the air by assad's air force. >> and what's the risk of the chemical weapons that assad has falling into the hands of people who may not be simply part of the free syrian army but may, in fact, be people who come in with other objectives? >> this is a really significant and ominous question. i mean, i think there are two risks here.

on the question of what happens when assad falls, if and when, there's a lot of preparation being done by neighbors and by the u.s. to the best of our ability to make sure that those chemical weapons don't fall into the wrong hands. >> senator, it's good to see you. >> gayle, it's wonderful to see you, not that it's not good to see charlie, but we go back a long way. >> no, we really do. we really do. on this day back in 2000 we looked it up in the books, this was a day you were selected as al gore's running mate for vp. do you remember that day? >> that's right. i had forgotten this was the day, exactly right. >> it was exactly the day. so here we stand with mitt romney. what would you do if you were

him? who would you select? go ahead, you can tell. >> i'm not looking at it that way, but the obvious thing to say, and i experienced it in 2000 -- the presidential nominee's choice of a running mate is one of the most singular, unilateral exercises of power in american politics. i don't mean government. if you're president, you have unilateral power to, for instance, declare war. but the choice of the vice presidential running mate is really up to the presidential nominee. it's why i'll forever be grateful to al gore for giving me the opportunity he did. i think mitt romney, number one -- i don't have much fresh to say here. i think the most important thing is to choose somebody that the american people will feel can be president. but probably it's also a bonus to choose somebody who can help you get elected. >> that's the question. >> and balancing those. if you just go for somebody who has a political appeal but won't stand up under the rigors of a campaign as a potential president, then you've made the wrong choice, and he's got some good selections. i mean a bunch of them are

people i know from congress, like rob portman marco rubio, paul ryan is another good one. >> are you angry that you're not going to be at the convention? >> charlie, i would say that one of the great benefits of being an independent is -- >> you don't have to go to a convention. >> -- that i don't have to go to either convention. >> a lot to be talked about during this campaign so we'll come back to you. thank you for coming. >> pleasure. good to see you both. this morning, rebel forces say the fighting in aleppo has spread to the city center and the former prime minister defected yesterday, reportedly started to plan his escape two months ago. one of his aides says president bashar al assad gave an ultimatum -- take the job as prime minister or die. holly williams filed this report from antakya, turkey, along the syrian border. >> reporter: we're hearing about more members of the syrian regime leaving the country. yesterday, the prime minister said defection of the prime

minister riad hijab, shows an end to the regime. >> it's clear assad cannot show his control over the country because the people won't allow. >> reporter: they have also confirmed another remarkable defection, one syrian general along with five officers and family members and supporters totaling 400 people, and they're not alone. hundreds of syrians are now fleeing their country every day. they come to turkey or other eighboring countries, and many of them arrive frightened, having witnessed horrible violence and carrying just a few possessions. while this all adds to the sense that the regime is crumbling the syrian government is apparently still functioning, and president bashar al assad remains in control of one of the biggest and best-equipped militaries in the middle east. for "cbs this morning," holly williams on the turkey/syria border. >> next half hour, we'll hear from jordan king abdullah about ending the violence in syria and what it may take to get president assad to give up power. police say that one of

oklahoma's biggest wildfires may have been deliberately set. more than three dozen wildfires have burned more than 93,000 acres in the past three weeks. the fires may have caused at least one death there. on monday, a body was found in a home that was under an evacuation order. on a just-released 911 tape, a witness in luther, oklahoma tells police that he saw a possible arsonist. >> i was following a truck. he turned around in the middle of the road, and i got up where he was at and the whole road exploded when i got up to him. >> a grass fire or a vehicle fire? >> it's a grass fire! he threw something out! >> at least 120 buildings, including dozens of homes, have been destroyed. nasa's mars rover is beaming back new pictures this morning. they show curiosity on the surface of mars. the space probe is searching for signs that life could have existed on that planet. nasa also released images of curiosity as it descended to mars sunday night. the mission's chief scientist said the full video of the

landing, in his words, will just be exquisite. at the olympics on monday, gold medal gymnast gabby douglas turned in an uneven performance, while a heads-up play put the u.s. into the gold medal game in women's soccer. so, here's the medal count so far. china leads with 64. that includes 31 golds. the u.s. has 63 medals. 29 of those are gold. and russia is now third followed by britain and japan. mark phillips as you know, is covering the olympics in london, and joins us with the latest on that. good morning to you, mark. >> reporter: good morning, gayle. good morning, charlie. of all the sports here, the closest that there's supposed to be to a sure thing for the u.s. is in women's soccer, but it was a real nail-biter here in the semifinal, and it was a controversial and dramatic conclusion in the end. the u.s. women's

second fayhtup&ifier. other highlights literally, jenn suhr won a tough pole vault competition, denying the russians an olympic hat trick. and the men's 400-meter produce ede one of those and the men's 400-meter produce ede one of those moments, a win for the dominican felix sanchez from an unlikely outside lane and then a gold for podium emotion. usain bolt's ceremony was different. the star of the 100-meters seemed eager to accept his medal and get on with it. he starts his 200-meter campaign today. so the drama has already begun as to whether bolt will be able to repeat his double to repeat his which he did last time and which he says he which he did last time and which he says he needs to become the legend that he wants to be. he cruised through this morning and now he cruised through this morning and now faces further races. >> mark >> mark phillips & one of the one

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last night nasa broadcast live footage of their rover making its dramatic landing on mars. [ cheers and applause ] incredible! incredible! unbelievable. yeah. then, eight hours later, nbc showed it. yeah. >> charlie, you had said what happened while you were gone. that was the rover, the curiosity landing. it was really amazing video to see. >> i can't wait to see it. >> right up your alley. >> indeed. and also as i said i once had a boat named "curiosity," so i'm in favor of curiosity doing well. >> yeah you are. >> welcome back to "cbs this morning." the rapidly accelerating situation in syria is affecting all of his neighbors, including

jordan. i had an interview with king abdullah who has ruled since 1989. he explained his opposition to syria's president and the search for an international solution to the crisis. >> i took it as hope but what i'm worried about, the longer we take to find a political solution and the more the chaos continues, then we may be pushing syria into the abyss. so, my point of view is let's move as quickly as possible. i mean confidence after confidence is great, international forums where we get the russians and chinese involvement is fine, but we can't afford the time. we're greater politicians trying to get people together at international conferences, but there is a reality on the ground that's catching us up, if it hasn't already. >> and what is the abyss? >> the abyss is complete and utter civil war, which will take us, i think, years to come back from. >> what do you think is going through the mind of bashar al assad? >> well that's a good question.

i had a meeting with president putin here two months ago, and his point of view is the west are saying he has to exit and then we find a political solution. and his point of view was, no let's find a political solution that allows him an exit. so, are we giving him enough choices? but at the same time i think in his mentality, he's going to stick to his guns. he believes that he is in the right. i think the regime feels that it has no alternative but to continue. and i think i mentioned this many times before i don't think it's just bashar. it's not the individual it's the system of the regime. so, if bashar was to exit under whatever circumstances, does whoever replace him have the ability to reach out and transform syria politically? so, for bashar at the moment if i'm reading the way he's thinking, is he's going to do what he's going to do indefinitely. >> how indefinitely can he do that is the question? >> well you know -- >> and at some point, he has to look at what's happened to

mubarak, to gadhafi, to sawa and say what are my options here? do i want to go out in a body bag or do i want to be part of a transition in which i leave and go somewhere else? >> if there is an exit policy for him to go out, where would he go? now, there are different arguments outside. you know, some people say well he's gotten to a point where he wouldn't be allowed to leave because of crimes against the state. >> war crimes. >> war crimes. there is a thought that if he stops the continued violence then the lesser of both evils. i have a feeling if he can't rule greater syria, then maybe -- and how do we implement this plan "b"? and that's something that needs to be considered, because if that happens -- >> so, that's an option, you think, for him to be part of an allawi -- >> that would be i think, for us the worst-case scenario

because that means that the breakup of greater syria, and that means that everybody starts land-grabbing, which makes no sense for me. and if syria then implodes on itself, that would create problems that would take us decades to come back from. >> he has said he'll not use chemical weapons against his own people, but he is killing his own people anyway. they're amassing in aleppo as we speak. would he use, in your judgment chemical weapons? >> i hope to god that he wouldn't because i think that would be a trip wire for many nations in the international community. gadhafi's miscalculation was the use of his air force against his own people. now, we are seeing the use of helicopters and crop he's using against his people. he's been fairly successful in using that. chemical weapons is something that scares everybody. what scares most of us is the weapons, chemical weapons falling into rebel hands, and who are those rebels? and obviously, the use of chemical weapons against innocent people.

and so again, there's so many levels of attention against syria, so we're working on the political level trying to find a solution. if he uses chemical weapons, is that the trip wire that all of a sudden people have -- the international community has to react? so, i think he understands that -- i hope he understands that would be a major miscalculation. more complicated than that what happens if some of those storages fall into rebel hands? and i think i said that earlier on, several weeks ago, that those weapon sites need to be secured by the international community. so, immediately, people have to cross borders with syria to make sure those weapons storage -- >> are you suggesting that that may be a reason for an intervention by outside forces? >> i hope that you're not looking at it as a reason for intervention. i think it's a crisis where we have to react. and the problem -- i am weary of people looking at it as a reason. in other words i hope people are not planning to sort of push

whoever they may be to make sure that those storage sites fall into rebel hands. the minute you cross the borders, no plan goes the way dplou you planned p. so the minute you cross the borders with armed forces or the military, then it's anybody's guess what the outcome is. >> so, how long can assad hold power? king abdullah feels the answer lies in basic economics. >> when you say how long does he have in power, my first question is how long does he have to govern greater syria? i mean going back to plan "b," he could still be in power in certain parts of syria. that's one issue. the other issue i think people need to look at is the finances. depending on who you listen to, he has anywhere between $5 billion to $7 billion of reserve in the central bank. if he runs out of money to run his country, i think that's more indicative of how strong the regime is because if you can't pay your soldiers -- >> that's down from $17 billion. >> it's costing him about $1 billion a month. if i was to look at the weakness

of the regime i'd look at the finances. so, if he has money coming in technically, he should be able to hold on indefinitely. if he runs out of money, can't keep the electricity power stations open can't keep the water running and can't keep paying the soldiers i think that's where the major crack is. >> an interesting man. >> very much so. it was interesting charlie, that he said no plan goes according to plan once you get on the ground. >> yeah. also, this idea of the third option what he calls plan "b," is fascinating, and he doesn't want to see that. it suggests that somehow, they make a deal in which assad would go to some area that the aloeites would control and that's the worst-case scenario because then everyone would be fighting among themselves and then syria becomes even worse, the possibility for civil war with many people fighting against each other. >> it was interesting. while you were gone it was reported that the prime minister defected to jordan. i thought, i wondered if they would cross paths.

that would be a good charlie interview. >> we wish we were there because that happened right after we were in the air it was announced that the syrian prime minister had defected and was in jordan. he has a story to tell. >> yes, he does. good morning. temperatures are in the mid- 70s. it's a bit humid. we have even mixture of clouds and sun through the haze. forecast calls for a high of 89 degrees. clouds and sun, warm and humid. standard, actually. tonight we will call it 70, patchy clouds in the area. tomorrow additional sunshine we are going to kick it up to dozens of olympians are doing it but does it do anything? they're putting special tape on their thighs and shoulders and other body parts. you've seen it. they think it helps their

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you may have noticed olympic at legalities wearing colorful bands of tape on different parts of their body. >> it's called kinesiology tape and it's been used for years to treat sports injuries, however, many competitors also think it gives them a competitive edge. bigad shaban is in london to tell us why that is. hello to you. good morning bigad. >> hello. good morning, charlie and gayle. from beach volleyball to diving track and even judo it does seem more olympic athletes are using the tape at these games than ever before but there is some controversy over whether it actually works, or is it nothing more than a high-tech placebo? it's the must-have athletic accessory at the summer games, the vibrant tape in often elaborate patterns on shoulders, legs, bellies and even bottom. but it's not just a fashion statement, it's the hottest trend in therapeutic treatment for banged-up athletes seeking to improve their performance. but kinesiology tape was actually developed over 30 years ago by this man, dr. kenzo

kisai, to treat sumo wrestlers. its popularity started to climb after volleyball star kerri walsh wore it at the beijing games in 2008. this year, the company has given out over 6,000 feet of kinesio tape to athletes free of charge. how does it work? this company video attempts to explain. >> it alleviates pain and facilitates lymphatic draining by microscopically lifting the skin. >> the tape will lift the skin so all the pressure inside of the skin lifting the pain so pain reduced and you can move better. >> reporter: but some question the evidence and the claims of the tape's effectiveness. >> there is little research to support the taping techniques. >> reporter: dr. neil roth is an orthopedic surgeon at lenox hill hospital in new york. he says any benefits from the tape are likely all in the mind. >> there may be some benefits in the taping from a placebo effect, where the athlete feels

more comfortable in it and feels more confident, and that in turn will benefit them during their performance. >> reporter: a recent study found that taping may have a small beneficial role for sports injuries but that there is little quality evidence that it works better than any other technique. physical therapist andrea wolkenberg has no doubt. >> the athletes use it because it works. >> reporter: she says a trained therapist can use the tape to benefit just about any ailment from tennis elbow to neurological problems. >> i've been using this stuff for, you know 15 years, and if it didn't work, i wouldn't use it. >> reporter: but there are some therapists who themselves are in favor of testing it out even further to ensure its effectiveness, but if someone out there is hoping to ease their own pain doctors say it's unlikely that it would cause any harm. but gayle and charlie, people are saying that they should actually go see a licensed practitioner to put it on since

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♪ it is at the top of the hour. that would be 8:00. and welcome back to "cbs this morning." i'm gayle king. >> and i'm charlie rose. jared loughner is headed to court in tucson arizona, this morning. he has admitted to shooting six people to death last year and wounding 13 others including congresswoman gabrielle giffords. the question is, will the judge agree that he is mentally competent to plead guilty? bill whitaker is at the federal courthouse in tucson. bill, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, charlie and gayle. jared loughner arrived here in tucson yesterday escorted by federal marshals. for the past year he's been treated for mental illness at a federal facility in missouri. now, the success of that

treatment will be the focus of today's hearing. almost immediately after his arrest for the shooting deaths of six people and the wounding of 13 others, including congresswoman gabrielle giffords, there were questions about jared loughner's mental state. soon after the shootings, this videotape surfaced on youtube, putting his bizarre behavior on public display. loughner behind the camera ranting as he walked around his college campus. >> where is all my subjects? >> reporter: after his arrest psychiatrists at a federal medical prison in missouri found him depressed, paranoid schizophrenic. last year, judge larry a. burns deemed him mentally unfit to stand trial, but today he's set to tell that same judge he now is competent enough to plead guilty. >> i'm sure the judge is going to talk to mr. loughner. he's going to ask him some questions, he's going to engage in some kind of a dialogue so the judge is convinced that he does understand what's going on. >> reporter: it seems he's not

the same man court documents described last year as "experiencing auditory hallucinations, throwing chairs toilet paper," even "pat on his attorney." since july of this year doctors have been forcibly administering drugs to control his behavior. and it's okay to the court that perhaps the only reason he is competent is because of the drugs he's taking? >> under our system yes. >> reporter: though most people might consider the tucson shooting the act of a mad man, defense attorneys know insanity is hard to prove in court. >> the insanity defense is far less common than people think. less than 1% of felonies have the successful use of an insanity defense. >> reporter: attorney brian levin says both defense and prosecution finda plea bargain appealing. >> in exchange, he's going to get life in prison and that's

the key here. the federal government gets him to admit that what he did was wrong and he knew it and the defense gets to save his life. >> reporter: survivors of the shooting will be here in court today wondering which jared loughner will show up the one made lucid by heavy medication orñi the angry loughner who destroyed so many lives. charlie, gayle? >> that is the question. thank you, bill whitaker. cbs news legal analyst jack ford joins us now at the table. hello, jack. >> hello, gayle. >> this is the same judge that ruled last year he was incompetent to stand trial. what's he got to hear today to reverse the decision? >> the standard is -- and again, it's very different, the notion of are you competent to stand trial as opposed to were you criminally insane at the time? the standard is do you understand the charges against him? do you realize why you're there? and can you assist in your defense? can you help your lawyer when your lawyer says do you remember what you were doing at the time? what witnesses can we get? so it's a limited threshold standard, important in terms of a trial, but in some ways, it

might have nothing to do with the issue of whether you were actually criminally insane at the time that the act took place. so, the judge has to be satisfied here especially with this history, where you have psychiatrists coming in and saying there is no doubt, early on, this guy just can't stand trial. we've got to do some things including the forcible medication, before maybe we can get there. so, the question is now the judge will have to decide and there will be conversations between the psychiatrists and with the defendant himself before the judge says either yes or no we're okay to proceed. >> i'm confused. can you be insane at the time you commit an act and then six months later say i was insane then but i'm not now, let me go free? >> that's the irony, and the answer to the question is absolutely. again, now, we don't see a whole lot of not guilty by reason of insanity verdicts. juries are reluctant for a lot of reasons. the standard is very high. you have to prove that. the defense has to prove that you either didn't know the nature of what you were doing. you thought you had a banana in

your hand it was actually a gun. or if you knew what you were doing but you didn't know it was wrong. some women know they're killing their children but they think god is telling them to do that. that's the criminalized insanity thing. so, a year and a half later, a judge can say, yeah you're fine to stand trial now, even though you can make a good argument that back when the shooting took place -- i don't know if they would or not -- back when the shooting took place, maybe he was insane. >> the other thing i don't get is what is it the defense wants to accomplish here? >> that's a great question. there's something in here for both sides if this is what they end up doing. for the defense, you always want to take the death penalty off the table. if you can do that in a case where, you know there's no doubt that he was the shooter here. the only question would be his mental condition at the time. so for the defense, if you can get the death penalty off the table, that's a huge win for you. the question is how about the prosecution? why would they want to do it? and the answer is, it gives them certainty. this is a case where -- and again, we don't know what a jury might do but this is a case where the defense could make a

pretty reasonable argument about criminal insanity, buttressed by the fact that immediately after the shooting an independent psychiatrist said he's psychotic, paranoid all the things we heard before. you can make the argument. i don't know what a jury would do. we never know. but for the prosecution, they can say to the family members, this is what we trade off. we give up the death penalty but get the certainly of a guilty plea here. he'll never set foot outside of a prison for the rest of his life, as opposed to if we roll the dice and go to trial, who knows? if the jury says not guilty by reason of insanity still not going to get the death penalty, be hospitalized for a long time maybe never get out, but the possibility he might get out. so everybody gets something. >> it will be interesting to see him in court today, see how he responds. >> that's the fascinating part to see how he's changed, indeed good morning. sun is dimmed by a little haze. it's humid this morning by a mixture of clouds and sun

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>> there you go. >> 90 years old, jumping out of a plane. president obama signed a bill providing health benefits to marines and their families who dank contaminated water at camp lejeune. >> health officials expect people over 30 years were exposed to the camontamination and one marine's family has been waiting almost that long for action. >> jerry ann zinger's daughter jamie was 9 years old when she died of leukemia in 1995 after fighting the disease for 2 1/2 years. the retired u.s. marine master sergeant says even today he can hear echoes of her painful pleas. >> every time she had a procedure done on her, it was my ear she was screaming in "daddy, daddy, don't let them hurt me, please daddy, don't let them hurt me." it was tough. >> reporter: still. >> oh, yeah. those memories never leave you. >> he was convinced her leukemia was caused by contaminated drinking water at camp lejeune

after fuel and toxic chemicals seeped into the water system. the emzingers lived there from 1975 to 1982. >> jamie went through hell and all of us who loved her went through hell with her. >> enzinger has spent the last 15 years trying to con skrins the marines to provide medical benefits to anyone poisoned by the contaminated water. congress has estimated as many as 1 million people were exposed. >> what about all those other marines and their families who spent a tour or two in the marine corps here at camp lejeune? i took that on as a mission, you know. i actually do believe in taking care of my people. >> reporter: enzinger says trying to find answers made him question his 24 years of service to the corps. >> i looked at myself in the mirror one day and said what i have done for most of my adult

life, was it a lie? and i said, no no. what i'm doing now is what every marine should do. >> reporter: camp lejeune's water is now clean and thousands of marines and their families will finally receive the health care they need but enzinger says he doesn't deserve any special credit. >> as a marine leader not only an obligation it's the most sacred duty that any marine leader has is to take care of his troops. >> reporter: the passage of the new law caps a loyal marine's long journey and is a tribute to a father's love. the bill is called the janey enzinger act. mark strassmann "cbs this morning" atlanta. >> a lot of people would disagree he doesn't deserve any credit fighting for his daughter. very nice, mark. a flight delay, as you know can be really really rell irritating and if your dog is in the cargo hold it can be dangerous, too. peter greenberg is here this morning to show us five things you need to know when you're

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responsible, yeah. >> so, what times of year should you fly and not fly with your pet? >> it all depends on the extremes of temperatures extreme heat extreme cold. whether it's under 35 degrees or over 85 degrees, your dog should not fly. it's not just the temperature where you're departing from or where you're going, but the temperature where your flight may be connecting, and that's where the deaths occur when you leave the pets on the tarmac for hours when they're connecting flights. a lot of times, the airlines will not fly your pets. there is a temperature moratorium moratorium, especially in the summer, where they will not accept the pets to fly. >> so there's no temperature down in the cargo hold? >> that's a different situation. that's a situation where you have to have a pressurized cargo department, temperature-controlled, but you have to make sure that you tell the flight attendants and the pilots you have a live animal on board, can you just make sure it was loaded in the right compartment. >> and what breeds should never fly? because charlie as barkley, who's a black lab. >> yes. >> they can fly, can't they? >> they can. it's dogs that have history of respiratory problems mostly like pug-nosed dogs boxers

pugs you have chinese pugs pekingese. in fact, some airlines won't accept pug-nosed dogs. some banned them entirely because in the last five years, 25% of the deaths on those flights have been those ikinds of dogs. cats as well, the burmese, the exotic, the himalayans, the persians are more susceptible to the rigors and tensions of flying. they shouldn't do it. >> do you ever fly with barkley? >> no. i've taken him in the car but never flown him on a plane. >> never flown on a plane. >> inside the car, right? >> with the window open. >> and they have to be restrained nowadays in some cities. >> exactly. the other thing you need to know is when you fly with your dog, and especially with a dog like a labrador, it's got to be in a kennel. the question is, it's got to be an approved kennel ventilated and the one thing you need to do as a responsible passenger is some of the kennels have wheels tape the wheels so they don't roll. you don't want the kennel moving when the plane rolls. and the biggest tip is you'll notice inside each kennel

there's a water dish. >> yeah. >> don't put water in there! it's going to spill out the minute you move the kennel. take ice cubes in a zip lock bag, bring it to the airport and last thing put the ice cubes in the water dish so as they begin the flight, the dog can be hydrated. >> that's a good tip. how do you make sure your dog is taken care of when you're on the plane, when you're up there and they're downstairs? >> it's within your rights to tell the flight crew i have a live animal on the crew. in fact, tape that on the kennel so the guys on the ground know it. make sure it's in a pressurized compartment. and the one thing people forget if your flight is delayed, let the flight crew know you have a live animal on board. there are a lot of pet lover pilots and flight attendants who will make sure it's okay go down and check it. >> what kind of animal would you fly with that's not live? >> i was just going to say that charlie, yeah, because i was thinking that too. that's seems like a doi, dead animal? i was wondering that too. >> you don't want to assume it's

just cargo. you want people to realize there is something living and breathing in that kennel seriously. so that's a good question. >> i wondered that too. what happens if the airline loses your pet? >> that's where it gets nasty. the airlines have a legal interpretation of your pet as checked bags and if you see the limitations of liability on the ticket, that's exactly what they try to apply if they lose your dog or cat, and this ends up usually, smart travelers have actually gone to small claims court to go over those limits if the pet is actually lost. in other words -- >> can you buy a seat for your pet and put it next to you? >> if it's small enough to go under the seat in front of you, yes, but they will charge you as much, if not more for your ticket to fly the pet on the plane than you, anywhere from $155 to $200 each way to have the ability to have your pet travel with you, but you cannot take it out during the flight. >> for a pet lover, that's worth it, though. thank you, peter. >> you got it. >> peter, thank you very much. for 13 years, jordan's king abdullah has guided his country through economic reform and political turmoil in the middle east. we continue our conversation on "cbs this morning."

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there is only one person with the real story on the kardashians. ♪ welcome back to "cbs this morning." >> we'll have more of my conversation with kim abdullah of jordan. jordan, the country, sits in the heart of a region that's embattled by crisis. neighbors include israel syria, iraq and egypt. i spoke with the king on sunday about the major problems facing the middle east today.

for 18 months jordan has watched its neighbor streets become the site of revolution and historic change but through it all, jordan's own streets have remained care-free by comparison. the country's leader is his majesty king abdullah ii. i'm not surprised you're driving. a contemporary ruler who prides himself on being a moderate arab in a region where extremists dominate the conversation. he told us he believed there is one conflict central to the region's troubles. >> charlie, i still believe that, you know and we all know that the core is still the israeli/palestinian peace process. arab spring, syria, iran these at the end of the day are sideline issues. whatever happens, the core issue, one that ignites the whole area is still the plight of the israelis and palestinians. our job in 2012 was to keep the

process alive until we could get past the american elections. whether we like it or not, you cannot move forward on the israeli/palestinian issue without the role of the united states. and when you get into an election year, for reasons that you understand just as well as i do we all have to tread water. >> but you have said that in terms of the israeli/palestinian issue, sometimes it's better to have somebody in their second term than their first term because of the political dimensions of that. >> historically speaking, we've seen second-term presidents are obviously much more geared to dealing with the israeli/palestinian issue because a new president usually needs to spend the first two years getting to grips with his job. >> well, you can say this, are you satisfied with what president obama has done to advance israeli/palestinian peace efforts in his four years? >> he's done as much as he could, but again, there is practicalities on the ground. i mean, part of the problem, obviously, is the u.s. well

the international community was sidetracked by major economic challenges. >> do you believe that some kind of attack based on your own intelligence is coming up for decision sooner rather than later? you just met with the defense secretary of the united states. clearly, that had to be on your agenda. >> i'll answer it the best way i can. what i do when faced with any crisis, and in particular the issue of israel hitting iran i always try and give myself a window of not before, in my own mind. same thing happened in the war with iraq. i didn't know what decision the president, bush, at that time would make, but i figured he would not launch against iraq before six months. and then depending on discussions, i knew i had a window of six months to work with. with israel i give myself always a four-month window.

and so in all my discussions, i can say that i am comfortable that we're not going to be faced with that problem for four months. >> for four months. >> when i get closer to that four months, i'll have to readjust that again. >> reporter: while king abdullah constantly has his eyes on israel to the west, he's focusing most of his attention north to the syrian border. we wanted to see the situation firsthand, so the jordanian military flew us up to the border. there we had a bird's-eye view of a refugee camp that's grown to the size of a small city in only seven days. how many people do you know of that you knew have been killed? there are many fearful of being seen on camera nervous for the safety of relatives back home. i understand. every night, syrians escaping violence come here and they live in these tents. it's an issue for the king of jordan because they keep coming. >> well as of today, we roughly have 145,000 who have crossed

the border. that's a major spike over the past three months. we're averaging anywhere between 300 to 1,000 in an evening, mainly coming over at night. we have 30,000 syrians that we have treated in our medical facilities. we have 25,000 children that we have inoculated under the age of 5. 8,000 students now going into our school system. so, it is a pressure on us and you know the numbers look like they're increasing. >> are you keeping them in the refugee camps, or can you move them outside of the refugee camp? >> what happened when they initially came through, because we have no visa restrictions with syria, they basically came through as visitors and found themselves throughout jordan further north to the south, but it got to a point where now it's an emergency. we can't afford any more syrians coming through because of the load it is on the system we have here. >> so, what's going to happen to them? to the refugees? >> well, the refugees are going into camps. the international community has

been fantastic. the king of spain called me several days ago, so did the king of morocco. they're trying to provide assistance. we just got a message that the french are sending a military field hospital to help build the refugee camps. so the international community are responding tremendously to the northern border. i just met the australian foreign minister who's also moved to visit with the northern border to help. >> for now, jordan remains stable but with a high unemployment rate and persistent calls for government reform it is walking a delicate line in a region embattled in conflict. the arab spring we have seen what's happened in egypt and tunisia and libya. we're now watching syria, bahrain had issues. where are we? >> well the arab spring -- and again, you know i hear this a lot in america, what should be the policy for anrab spring? and we've got to get away from

using the arab spring but because that's the word that's out there, we'll use it tomorrowfor now, because arab spring means something different to every country, so you can't have a policy towards arab spring. and remember arab spring started not because of politics but because of the economy. the whole world was suffering because of an economic crisis. and i think, unfortunately, it led to political -- >> and it was not religious it was not against the west, it was not against israel. it was economic conditions. >> exactly, which then moved to political desire. >> do you have a better term than arab spring that might fit what we are experiencing and watching because it is so significant in the middle east? >> well what has i think -- >> transformation clearly. >> transformation. there's been an umbrella over the arab world which has been arab nationalism for many decades. and i think that the arab world has now moved beyond arab nationalism into nationalism. today, the major challenge for all of us including jordanians

is for each country to define itself, you know. today an egyptian is asking what it means to be an egyptian. a tunisian what it means to be a tunisian, a libyan what it means to be a libyan and a jordanian needs to find out what it means to be a jordanian, and syria after whatever happens will need to find out what it means to be a syrian. that is the major challenge. >> i'm fascinated looking at the refugee settlements. what's going to happen to them, charlie? >> i don't know, and i'm not sure they know. you know you can interview heads of state and you can interview generals and warriors but to see these kids there and it's dusty and they're in tents and to look at their plight what's happening to them. yet at the same time there's a playfulness. i kicked a soccer ball with one of the kids there. you know and it tears at you because, you know they have such hope, and yet, they have such despair. >> they're kids and they still want to play. i love the interview when you were talking to the woman who didn't want to be revealed even

though she's talking to an american crew. there's still a lot of fear there. >> that was always there. they always said to us i don't want to talk. they would talk to me but they didn't want their faces used. >> on camera. >> so we made sure we didn't show people who specifically said don't say, and they would say that because it was their husband who was still in syria. >> yeah. >> it was their brother who was still in syria, and they were fearful. yet at the same time they came and they came because they worried that if they stayed they would lose their life. and so this was better. and yet, you know that many people in an instant city offers all kinds of problems of health of water, you know of sanitation. >> yep. no easy answers. thank you, charlie. >> it's enormously touching to see these people there, though i must say. >> to be continued, for sure. you will not find jason bourne in "the bourne legacy," but guess what? you'll find edward norton and jeremy renner. they'll join us next to talk about their latest movie in the blockbuster franchise.

you'll meet them coming up next on "cbs this morning." but before we do that one more good morning a mixture of clouds and sun but we've got this haze out there, right now that is just got the word humid written all over it. as such it will be a flavour of the day. having said that i need to go to first warning weather doppler radar. i am on an interesting scan i don't want you to worry too much about this stuff here around baltimore that will be aloft but it is a big thunderstorm complex, on the southern part of

stop what you're doing and turn around. that's an order. it would be perfectly normal for a person to have doubt and self-morality in what we just asked him to do. >> is that a question, sir? >> no it is not. tune in to what i'm trying to say to you. do you know what a sin-eater is? well, that's what we are, we are the sin-eaters. it means we take the moral ex-ment we find in this situation and bury it deep inside of us so the rest of our cause can stay pure. that is the job. we are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary. you understand? >> "the bourne legacy," the fourth chapter of that billion-dollar franchise, is headed to theaters this weekend. the new movie is a reboot for the action series. it stars edward norton and jeremy renner. they're with us here in studio

57 and we are pleased about that. welcome. >> thanks for having us. >> thank you. >> both of you what is it that makes a great franchise series? >> ooh, there's a lot of good franchises out there. >> yeah i mean you know i think think, you know, some are fun because they're a little bit more fantastical, you know they're superhero kind of things. i think the "bourne" ones which we're all fans of i think distinguished themselves because they feel a little closer to the ground, they feel like maybe that's what's happening behind the headlines that we read in a more authentic way. >> and you play aaron cross, a guy who is not really in the novels. >> right. >> and so, what's his story? >> so, you know the backstory on him really is the fuel really is a guy that really just wants to belong. i think like most people on planet, we all sort of want to

belong, to feel like you have a reason to exist. and whether it is the military that he initially joins, then signing up to join this new program, not unlike the first jason bourne another program called "outcome" that birthed aaron cross. and again, the guy just wants to belong and be part of a team and work with edward's character. >> edward's character that runs the whole thing. >> yeah. >> it's interesting because you two have an adversarial relationship but you don't spend a lot of time on screen together. >> right. >> you saw all of it. >> really all kidding aside, that was sort of the scene. and i read jeremy that you were reluctant to take this role. and i looked at the script and watched the movie and thought what was your hesitation? >> before i saw the script you certainly consider how that would affect my lifestyle. >> your personal life. >> yeah. i mean it was only a pause for like three hours, but i did want to consider because it just finished "mission," i still had ñi

"the avengers" to go shoot, now they're asking should we do this? i'm saying hold on a second let me think for a second. >> breathe. >> yes. creativity, of course, here's an arm, here's a hand take it. it's a brilliant role and script. but yeah, just wanted to take a pause for a second think about the next 10 15 years of my life. >> what'd you come up with? >> well it was more what my mom said, just stop being an idiot and take the role, would you? >> listen to your mom. >> exactly. >> is what i would say. >> they call and say, we're in a recession, right some you know that, right? >> exactly. >> do your job. >> you were complaining about having to do five movies that are really, really good. >> yeah right? yeah. >> what they call uptown problems. >> listen to your mom. so, what is the conflict here? sgiv us the story line so we can explore why this is -- >> well, i think that it flows seamlessly, literally, out of the tail end of the last film even overlapping it. and i think it's sort of like, you know those russian dolls

where there's the little lens. in this film you sort of go to the next level of russian doll and realize that the story up to now has been within a larger reality of a department that's been running not only the bourne program but the one that jeremy's character is a part of. and it literally just picks up a level and lets you see the larger, the ramifications of what's taken place in the first film. >> the stunt work was amazing. was that you all the time? there were a couple scenes where i thought how in the world did he pull that off? >> yeah. it was a great sort of challenge every day to do those things you know? but it would have been a great disservice if i couldn't do those things in a very very visceral, sort of authentic -- >> look at this chase scene they're showing. this is one of the great chase scenes i've seen. it's running between cars running on top of buildings. it's all shot in manila and in

the end, there's a great motorcycle chase which we're seeing. we're seeing the end part of it. >> i could do quite a few of those things, but not all of them. >> but rachel's character, she plays -- she's central to this because she plays the doctor who is creating this -- well you tell us. >> yeah yeah. you know it's really kind of interesting because it's really like an engine and they all need each other to work. you have some really great carved-out scenes that allow for accessibility, understanding the fuel and why these people are doing what they're doing, where they need to go and the conflict they're in. >> and is it an advantage to work with a director who's been involved with the project, the creation of the characters for film and at the same time has written the screenplay? >> i love an author/director because i think -- and tony's a really good example of someone who's, you know -- the specificity with which he's you know chasing his own voices

and especially in a jigsaw puzzle kind of a movie, when the architect of the puzzle is also the guy who's implementing it in some ways it's very helpful, i think. >> i want to talk about aurora for just a second because after the terrible shooting in colorado there were calls for hollywood -- think about the violence, rethink the violence, where should we stand on that? even harvey weinstein was saying it's something he struggles with. what do you all say about that now? >> it's just my personal opinion, but i feel like there's something deeper that we need to confront about why these things are happening in all kinds of contexts. you know that's not to say that i don't think that artists have to think about, you know what they're saying and what they're doing. i mean i think all of us would say that we -- you know you have to believe in what -- if you're diving into a piece, even

as an actor, even if you're not the author you want to have a conviction that there's something constructive, even if the material's tough. and everybody's got their own balances for that. >> thank you, edward norton, great to see you, jeremy renner. thank you very much. much success. >> thank you. >> congratulations. >> thanks. tomorrow on "cbs this morning," steve carell talks about giving marriage advice to meryl streep and tommy lee jones. it's in a new movie "hope springs." we'll be right back.

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an american judo fighter was excel expelled from the olympics after testing positive for marijuana, yeah. yeah, officials became suspicious when he kept stopping the match and saying "what are we fighting for, man?" >> something about a brownie that he ate, wasn't sure what

was in the brownie. >> and why are we fighting? i feel so good. >> i feel really good out here really good. >> by the way, it's nice to be back with you. >> i was going to say. >> nice to be home. >> nice to have you back really nice to have you back but it was also nice to see you in jordan really nice. he was very candid with you. >> thank you, and the kids and all that we saw, we'll have more on that in terms of the reflections of the remarkable things you see abroad. and you see how lucky we are in many ways in the things that we have and a lot of the planet is not living in good situations, but. >> don't take it for granted, right. >> good to be back. up next, your local news. we'll see you tomorrow right here on "cbs this morning."

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