but they're notoriously inaccurate. it's much easier to lock the thing so that only one person has access to it. it's actually quite a nice bit of history, isn't it? i've always loved that 'cause we take so much for granted, don't we? we do, absolutely. we take so much for granted. what's it worth? how much did you pay to your neighbor? um, about £1,500. how long ago? about 6, 7 years ago. right, um, you paid the right price then. at the moment, the chances are, should you put it into a sale now, despite what i say about it, it might not make that. yes. but it doesn't matter. i think you've got a delightful clock. it's beautiful. we love it. you've earned it. it stayed in the family anyway. you've got over the trauma of the purchase, and there it is, and you're enjoying it. yes, that's right. this item intrigues me more than anything. it's in appalling condition, but

here it is-- it is. an english-arabic pocket dictionary. first edition. printed in cairo. it is. what is it doing in bridlington? well, i have a theory about that. i am told that it was once the property of t. e. lawrence-- lawrence of arabia. oh, that's fantastic. who of course worked in bridlington and just before he left, he's alleged to have given this to a local man, and then he went back to... what's he doing in bridlington? he was one of the people who were working on the rescue boats at the time on the harbor. he stayed in the ozone hotel. the ozone hotel? yes, and that's where he said his famous line "cats and landladies' husbands thread the streets at bridlington in the winter." ( chuckles ) i love it! this book was handed to a local man... yes. whose name i have, who handed it to a second man, to a third man who then offered it to our local museum-- the harbor history museum-- and posted it to me, free. it's all incredibly tentative, isn't it?

it is, unfortunately. there's no signature there's nothing. no, no. but there it is. it's a wonderful little dictionary, beautifully set out, but one has to say what is an arabic dictionary doing in bridlington? and other than that argument i can't think of another one. ( both chuckle ) well, as it is no providence-- worth virtually nothing, i suspect. but... but. if one could actually tie it down to t. e. lawrence for sure and say that he was the only arabic speaker in bridlington in 1934, or something like that to a t. e. lawrence collector, it's worth thousands of pounds-- 5,000, 10,000, something like that. wow. but as it is we just have to wait. and hope. thank you for bringing it in. so what do you call this piece of furniture? in the family, we call it the chest. right. the chest. other people describe this as a chest on chest. right. what do you know about it? well, it's been in the family for

about 60 years i would think. my father was a french polisher before the war. and after the war, he couldn't settle back to being a french polisher so he went into the country to be a farmer but he kept at the french polishing as a hobby and also with a hobby he used to buy and renovate pieces of furniture. he bought this one a lot of years ago when i was very small, and he always said it was a very nice piece. i could never work out what the veneer and everything was and why the sides were blanked rather than being veneered as well. where do you keep it? it's kept in the bedroom. we use it. it's a bedroom piece. it's a functional piece. right, that's exactly what it is then. it is a bedroom piece of furniture. right. right, and the way it's been designed-- so you look at it head-on, admiring the wonderful veneers. it's 18th-century. it was made about 1730. so it's george ii.

right. let me look at this piece of furniture. i realize that this is a country piece of furniture over a town piece. yeah. the reason why is because the sides are actually pine. on the upper section and the lower section, they're both pine. if this was a town piece of furniture the sides would be all veneered and cross-banded and that's the juxtaposition that the town pieces go a little bit further, which would obviously cost more money for the client. yep, yep. but nevertheless it's still a good-looking piece of furniture. it's quartered veneered. i don't know if you noticed, you've these quarters. it's opened up and opened up again. so on the long drawer, you've got matched veneers. so at first, i thought-- is it mulberry wood? oh, right. right, mulberry. another wood which comes to mind is acacia. nicely made. all oak-lined.

original handles. the feet... yes, they're wooden, by my friend the polisher. right. who actually renovated. he made new feet for it. he said it needed feet. before it didn't have any feet. it was like an old bracket foot nailed on. they were the original feet. were they? yes. right, right. as it is... as a whole, this is worth, i would say, between £6,000 and £8,000. £6,000 and £8,000? yeah, yeah. i would expect you to pay for this, with the right feet, in excess of £10,000. £10,000? right, certainly not for sale. you see, what i like about the things that i look at is that they do stuff. ceramics are all very well and so is furniture, but they don't walk across a table. no, no. ( chuckles ) now, tell me how you got hold of this. i answered an advertisement for some old action men,

and when i got there i was offered this and another robot as well. so i bought them while i was there. just because you could? because i liked them. yeah, i like it, too. it's in lovely condition. it's called "the moon explorer." it's made by a company called yonezawa. this is the trademark of yonezawa, also known as yon, and they made toys for the american market, and sometimes they would also have the label of cragstan on it, and dating from the 1960s, about 1963, '64. now, we've seen a little bit about what it does but it has another sort of little trick up its sleeve doesn't it? yeah. let's get it to walk a little bit first and then something else happens. he's coming out now.

fantastic. now, i'm gonna ask you what you paid for your... i bought that at another large different one for £95. how long ago? seven-- about seven years ago. that's a fair amount of money, actually, wasn't it? but you did well. ah. ( chuckles ) because a moon explorer in really good working condition, in its box would sell for around $1,500. so we're talking about-- exchange rate-- something around £600. so i think that was a pretty good... yes, yeah, better than in the bank. much better than in the bank. so this is your great-grandfather, is it? it is, yes. elliot duke was his name. elliot duke. and was he a fisherman?

i think i can tell because of the hat. yes, he was a fisherman from flamborough in the fishing village of flamborough. just around the corner from here. yes. they all went to sea in fishing boats called cobbles. oh, yes. which in those days, they would have to row them out to sea and then put the sail up. oh, right. there was him and his father and three brothers... all went to sea. the whole family fishing? yes. and the wives stayed at home and baited the lines. and helped with the catch when they returned. yes, so it was a full family affair. well, i particularly like his piercing blue eyes which, i have to say you've got quite blue eyes haven't you? did that come down the family? probably, yeah. i remember my grandma, she did have sort of blue eyes and auburn blonde hair. ah, but i'd love to see him particularly here against this backdrop of the very waters he fished. yeah, that's true. a hundred years ago or more. yeah.

now, sadly, we don't know who painted it, do we? we don't. my grandma always told us it was just painted by a visitor. well, of course a lot of visitors around here were artists. you've got the stains' community of artists. yes, i have a feeling it was the stains' community because it would be painted at robin hood's bay, and that's at flamborough. well it's clearly a good hand but not so good that i can put a certain name on it. i wish i could. but one thing's for sure-- it's quite well-painted. and i like his rugged face. they've caught the crinkly lines in his face, and they've caught his determination, i think very much, and those blue eyes with the blue of his jumper just really, really work. obviously, you're not gonna sell great-grandfather but you might want to insure it probably for something around £1,000-- £800 to £1,200. really? yeah, it's that good. it's a really good picture. yeah. oh that is a surprise. beautiful that great-grandfather would be worth so much money. he'd have sold it like a shot of

course. yeah. and especially as it's been wrapped up in a brown paper parcel for years. no? what like a piece of wet fish? yeah. well, put him on the wall. we've had it on the wall the last few years but previous to that it was in the garage. well, it's a great piece of local color. thanks. thank you. when i looked at you and i looked at this i was very excited because i'm seeing something i've never seen before in my life which is a lady aeronautical engineer. tell me how you came to be such an important person as a lady? right. well, in 1941 when i was 21, i was called to do war work. they put me for war work in a.i.d. now, what is a.i.d.? it's new to me. a.i.d. is aeronautical inspection department, and it's a department that inspects the works inspectors' works.

they give the final inspection. at alvis motors, they assemble the power plant around the merlin engine. it runs all the airplane services. exactly. it runs all the hydraulics. it's all the extras that are bolted on to the engine itself. well, because i'd been trained to do this work, i ended up as being the one that was doing all the power plants. so you gave the final seal of approval. the very final one and i remember my number to this day. "e-zed-4" i used to have to stamp on it. which was stamped onto the engine. onto the engine. and it was the final inspection before it was dispatched to the airfield, ready to put in the lancaster bomber ready for action. so in 1946 you became officially an aeronautic engineer... with this certificate. it sounds very grand but... i think it's very exciting 'cause who else comes from this area who was a great lady flyer?

now, when i was made the associate of the royal aeronautical society and i looked down the list i thought, "oh, amy johnson." exactly. she was an-- by golly, i'm in good company. what wonderful company-- everybody's heroine. you're one of her. exactly. this is you, isn't it? yes, of course it is. who's that with you? that is my darling husband and soul mate. how did you meet? well, we met in stratford on avon and i was in the swan's nest hotel at stratford on avon with a friend of mine, and this r.a.f. officer kept looking at me and norma frost, who was my friend, said, "oh, that's tim timplish," she said. "he's just won the d.f.c.-- the distinguished flying cross." so he kept looking and our eyes kept meeting, and he accompanied me home and he took me to the cinema the next night.

well, from then on we were inseparable. is this 1944? yes, it would be about 1944. and he'd had a career before you. he got his d.f.c. he got his d.f.c. what was he? he was the captain of a lancaster bomber. so you may have checked the engine that went into his plane. exactly. what a wonderful thing. he did all his operations in 1943. yeah, so here he is in later life, wearing his medals. so he got his d.f.c. what, as a... he was a pilot officer. yeah, and it was the beginning of a great life together. a wonderful life together. a wonderful life. and it becomes a great love story doesn't it? well, the people who knew us said you must write a book because it's such a wonderful... we were so close. i think it's just-- it's a very moving story but it's two people of that period. now, here is the box for his d.f.c. yes. but where's it gone? well i went to bring it to you,

but the box was empty. so it must be somewhere in the house. it dropped out. you must find it. not only is this his this is the story, it's also actually worth quite a lot of money. i know. i hope to god i can find it. there's £1,000 not there. oh, please now. anyway what you did was remarkable. you may dismiss this. your coming together that great romance in all the pressure of the war and you were set forever. it was love at first sight. i knew from the start that he was the man for me but i didn't let him know that. but he knew that you were the girl for him. yes, i think he did. i think that's perfect. i think he did. thank you. this is just sort of five pieces of probably about 200 various pieces of glass that i have at home. and where are you finding these things? it's mainly car boots. occasionally, there'll be something in a shop, but not very often.

but car-booting is my hobby. brilliant, and i just love it. i'm up every sunday, 4:00 in the morning... ( growls ) fantastic. good fun. i've been spending quite a lot of time on the east coast recently and finding that there's a real presence here of swedish and danish glass, which possibly came in through hull and has just spread up along the coast and so what we have here are three danish and one swedish. right. you could be mistaken for thinking these were all the famous holmegaard ones the danish holmegaard ones because they made it in this sky-blue color but, in fact i'm pretty sure that that is made by a swedish glassworks called aseda--a-s-e-d-a, whereas these are the royal danish glassworks at holmegaard, and we have otto brown...1962. pierre lutkin's carnaby...1968.

and christer holmgren also as an element of the carnaby range, 1969. that's wonderful. and you think of that name on the holmegaard ones-- "carnaby." it just says it. the end of the '60s-- these possibly the most famous single pieces of late '60s glass. if you think of the red london bus and the swinging london and all that carnaby really kinda says it all, doesn't it, really? well, it does, yes. i can see it now. but the one that really caught my eye is this little beasty. really? that's a very nice thing. what's the story of that one? a friend of mine she actually bought it at a car boot, thought i might like it, and posted it off to me, and it got it and was so very disappointed 'cause i thought it was broken and not the typical mdina piece. so it's taken a bit of a backstage at home. so this is the creation of britain's first studio glass artist--

michael harris. right. who left his job as a tutor at the royal college of art and established a glassworks on malta called mdina, and he was only there for a couple of years, but he got all the ideas from american studio glass artists, in particular one called sam herman who had inaugurated the furnace at the royal college. michael saw what you could do on a live furnace. it's the first time there had been one--1968-- and it just blew his mind, the spontaneity of the glassmaking process. and so that's why he gave up his job went and moved to malta, raised a hundred grand bought the container's worth of equipment and started making glass for the first time in his life. at the peak of the harris pieces is the crizal stone. this is the crizal stone and it's a complex piece of glassmaking. this one is not signed by michael but it certainly is by him 'cause he's the only person who ever made them. him personally rather than any of his apprentices who followed on.

so what we have here is a contrast between this lot picked up at a booty for how much? well, £1, £52, 3. £600, £700 those? no. ( chuckles ) for that... 1,500? no. ( chuckles ) you selling at auction. really? well i'm absolutely amazed. well, that was worth a bus ticket, wasn't it? well, it certainly was worth a bus ticket. that's wonderful. thank you very much. my grandfather brought it back from switzerland in 1901 and it was quite an undertaking to carry all this on the train along with his whole plate camera and luggage and everything else. how amazing. well, the interesting thing about the box is when you first look at it, oh, what an attractive box

and then if you look really carefully it's a bit of a cheat. is it? because that bouquet if you like, with the violin in the front it's painted. it's not inlayed. and it's no ordinary box. it's a musical box. and what a lovely, lovely musical box, too. now, what do you know about these songs? well, i just assumed that they were sort of musical songs of the time. yes, they were made for the british market. they're all in english. oh, i see. they are, aren't they? so they must've seen him coming. ( both chuckle ) they must've thought "a-ha, i see an englishman. "and we're going to sell him this because it's got eight english tunes." what is lovely about it, and i'm going to open this is that you've got butterflies, and it's known as "bells in sight." they're bells in sight. they're also butterflies in sight as well. i think slightly poetic license for the butterflies, don't you?

well, yes. ( both chuckle ) i've had a look down here where the number is usually numbering each piece. i cannot find a number. so i cannot categorically tell you who it's by. i believe it could be by one of the swiss makers as bremond or w. abraham's which were good makers in sainte-croix, which is the musical box and watches making center of switzerland. were you allowed to play it on high days and holidays? just about, yes. that's all. really? yes. don't break the spring. you have a repeater. you have stop starter. what more could you want? all we need to know now is what the tone is like. i think i've gotta wind it haven't i? yes. ♪

oh, it's behaved beautifully hasn't it? oh, it has. it does. ( chuckles ) lovely tone. yes. well it's in very good condition. it doesn't need any of the pins replacing, certainly on that tune. i have to say that you would not be able to find this under £1,000. really. hmm. i'll tell you now that i've slid this around the floor today because it got heavy. i won't slide it around the floor anymore. ( all laugh ) of the many things i like about this broach what i like best about it is the miniature hand mirror that the mermaid is holding so that you can just about see her looking at her reflection in the hand mirror. this is a very unusual piece of jewelry

and i want to know where you got it from. well, it was my mother's. she had it for about 40 years. as far as i know it had always been in her jewelry box. and when she passed away i gratefully accepted it. so did she wear the broach? i think she might've worn it a couple of times. did she comment about it at all? no, no. nothing? she wasn't a jewelry sort of person. i mean, they traveled abroad. whether it was something they bought abroad i don't know. well, there are no marks on it at all to say where it might have been made, but i'm going to try and work out something about it. is it gold? it's gold. right. and this is a very large baroque pearl. the thing about pearls is that they're such extraordinary shapes

that you can actually get a pearl to fit into a piece, and it follows the contour of the design of the piece. and had you noticed that it follows the swell of her... doesn't it? you mean her bust? yes, i do. i do. now, it's 18 carat gold. it's most beautifully textured. look at the long flowing hair. she's gorgeous. look at her expression. i know. look at the pearl at the bottom. it is exquisite. and i have to tell you i don't think i've seen one quite like it before which makes it rather difficult to value. right. but my instinct is that this broach made in around about 1880, 1890-- as late as that? yes, i think as late as that. it's a figurative broach. i think you're looking at about £1,000 to £1,500.

oh, wow. she's gorgeous. are you familiar with the french culinary expression...? no. it literally means "cooked in it's own juice." and that's exactly what has happened to this clock. it's the sort of condition that collectors, dealers love to find it. nobody has messed with it for many years. have you got a history of how it came to your family? my grandfather bought it probably in the '20s or '30s. yeah, well, that's exactly what has happened. i would think since then it's never been restored. it's by a maker called john ellicott who was sort of up there with the best and a contemporary of such people as george graham and when this clock was made which i think is probably about 1750 mahogany was relatively scarce in

its use in clock cases. so although the case looks fairly severe-- it's plain grain it's not highly polished and highly flamboyant as later clocks are-- that's the sort of style and use of mahogany that you had in the 1750s, which is, again, quite early for this form of inverted clock. and there's a few good features. it's got the signature here. you've got a little false pendulum aperture. unfortunately, the pendulum has a little broken spring. so we can't.... guilty. ( both chuckle ) okay, it's not a huge problem. and you've got these very enchanting little spandrels with a small head inlaid with all the elaborate decoration around. it's a cracker. on the back of the movement, we've got very fine engraving, and it's a three-train and that is very rare--

three-train quarter striking. perhaps we can just give it a strike 'cause it is rare to see clocks of this date which have a full quarter striking. ♪ that's a full quarter. ♪ and then you get the hours. do you know what he paid for it? i've no idea. all i know is that... he said later that he bought the best that he could afford at the time, and he couldn't afford a tompion. all right, fair enough. today, i would say that it would make 12,000 upwards. which is not bad, eh? it's not bad at all. he died when i was nine, but he meant a lot to me and one of the things he used to do was magic sixpences out of my ear.

brilliant. well, he made a good investment. and it goes without saying if you buy the best you can afford and it's good it remains so. yes, yes. well, thank you very much. thank you, sir. we've had a great day out by the seaside here in bridlington, and as home of the penny slot machine, i wasn't sure if any of those might turn up today, but with all the wonderful objects that have been brought along i think we've hit a jackpot of our own. thank you to the people of bridlington for coming to see us at the splendid art deco spa royal hall. from me and the roadshow team bye-bye. ♪

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welcome to our viewers on public television in america and also around the globe. syria is breaking up before everyone's eyes, that was the warning issued by the u.n. media specialist as he briefed the security council. on the ground, there is fresh evidence of the terror is taking place. the bodies of at least 65 men believed to be the victims of a mass execution have been found dumped by the side of a river in the syrian city of aleppo. >> one of the most gruesome discoveries in nearly two years of horror in syria. body after body caked in mud sprawled on the bank near the city center. dozens of them, all men, all shot through the head. some of them clearly with their hands bound. some of the victims were recognized but many remain

identified for the moment. they were found in an area controlled by the rebels. activists had no doubt that the killings were the work of regime forces took the government officials said the victims had been kidnapped and killed by armed rebels. the rebels themselves are advancing in the east of the country. after a fierce battle, they overran a government intelligence headquarters, setting free a number of prisoners. but, the regime has been hitting back hard in many areas. around damascus, homs, hamaa. might have lost a lot of the all areas but they are determined to hang on to the big cities and strike out from there. bashar al-assad is being reported as telling visitors that the army has regained the initiative on the ground and has scored some important successes that will become apparent soon.

as another sign that the regime has life in it, his british wife is also pregnant. >> this conflict and syria is going to be one of the most pressing problems waiting for senator john kerry as he takes over as secretary of state. today, his colleagues of a woman reconfirm him to succeed hillary clinton. before she goes, a secretary clinton sat down with our state department correspondent. >> what i believe is that the u.s. has played an indefensible role in working to help establish an opposition coalition, something that is very important as we found in libya, which was not being accomplished until the u.s. played a much greater role in helping to bring that out. channeling humanitarian aid.

the president has announced more aid which brings our total to the highest in the world. this will go to organizations that rightly have to work with the assad regime. >> >> we will bring you more of that as soon as we can. the army chief is warning that the current protests could lead to the collapse of the state and threaten future generations. that assessment comes after days of fighting that claimed at least 50 lives. the army has been deployed in three cities along the suez canal although some protesters ignored the core few -- the curfew that is in place. >> the suez canal looking so tranquil and unaffected. cities on its banks have become the focus of egypt's turmoil. suez itself has had a state of emergency imposed and troops have been deployed after the

deadliest time of protests since the revolution. this is one of the many grieving for those lost in the violence. was shot in the stomach as he and france went to join in the protests. >> i keep thinking of him lying and that hospital beds. he might wake up. i hunted him and hug him. he urged those thinking of going out to protest again to consider the parents they leave devastated if they died. even though the president announced a curfew here, he found opposition supporters planning to defy it. they have not materialized >> we're not afraid of death any more.

i've seen so much blood with my own eyes. we cannot change the situation, cannot live with dignity. that is better. >> the protesters did take to the streets just before the curfew came into force. you can see what these people think of the curfew. we have seen them singing, dancing, chanting, setting off fireworks right in front of tanks. they say they will keep coming out into the streets. whatever the consequences, until presidents morsi steps down. the army chose not to intervene this time, there is no long-term solution in sight. more trouble will almost certainly visit this city. >> continuing unrest in egypt.

warnings from the head of the military. let's take a look at some of the other stories. a suicide bomber has blown himself up near the presidential palace in somalia. two soldiers were killed in the blast. the attacker is thought to be a member of the islamist groups al-sabah us. >> -- devastating weather is causing problems in queensland. military and civilian helicopters have carried out more than 1000 rescues. a bus and train have collided in northern china killing at least nine people and injuring 30 others. road deaths are a major problem in china. officials suggest there was more than 200,000 serious traffic

accidents last year alone. the real figure could be much higher than that. there is cheering and dancing in the desert city of timbuktu tonight. just a day after french forces liberated the city from atlantic rebels there also leaves and reprisals. as western governments way their involvement in the operation the long-term security in the north of the country is still in doubt. >> dancing on the streets. the relief is clear as french and local troops took back at the desert town and opposed. already, there has been looting and retributions as angry crowds threatened to kill those that fought for the islamists. they will try to wage a deadly

insurgency. preventing that will be up to african troops, for molly and its neighbors. they're looking to raise money for the african mission which will include british military trainers. the defense secretary has spelled it out but has not commented on it. >> france has made it clear that they see a short intervention to stabilize the situation on the ground while the african forces from neighboring countries and the army have deployed to sustain the situation in the longer term. >> senior military figures say that uk's support is in the national interest. >> failed states bring with them instability. the prime ministers have touched on this, that molly might be in the middle of nowhere, at timbuktu used to be known. what happens in a global world

if the jihadists were to take over the country as a whole. they would not end there. >> timbuktu has gratitude for western help. there were stories of beatings fear, and repression. today are reminders that the jihadists role is being obliterated but the final battles not yet won. >> finding those jihadi is will be the next challenge for the french military. you are watching bbc world is america -- president obama hits the road in the hopes of selling changes and america's immigration policy. an american soldier who lost all four limbs were all serving in iraq has been speaking about his remarkable recovery after receiving a double on transplant.

>> on the move, preparing to leave the hospital a wounded warrior who has battled back from horrific injuries sustained in iraq. a 26-year-old is the recipient of an extremely rare double armed transplant. >> i can move my elbows, my elbow, the one i had before. i can rotate a little bit. >> he was asked whether he could comprehend the idea of using someone else's hands. >> i am so we can. i never really except of the fact that didn't have arms. now that have them again, it is almost like it happened. >> he served in the u.s. army, driving trucks. his vehicle was the target of a roadside bomb outside of baghdad. he lost all four limbs and at first it regained some mobility using prosthetic arms and legs.

last month's transplants took 40 hours to complete. >> i suspect that he will be using his hands for just about everything as soon as we let him start trying to do more and more. right now, we are holding him back at this point so he can let all this tissues heal. >> an inspiring story at a time when a whole new generation of wounded soldiers is coming. what message does he have for others? >> do not give up hope. life always is better when you are live, be stubborn. be stubborn, do it anyway, work your off to do it. >> he will be working this car next and who was to doubt him? what's hot on the heels of a group of american senators,

president obama has rolled out his own plan for dealing with america pause immigration problem. speaking in las vegas, he said that immigration reform must include a pathway to citizenship for the 11 million people living in america illegally. >> he is here, he is president. he is a tremendous support with a latino voters. a promise to help illegal immigrants become americans. >> i'm here because the time has come for common-sense, comprehensive immigration reform. >> that might be music to the ears of those in the streets of laredo, through this texting -- texan town, once ofa part of the nearly

2,000 miles of border. there is an estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in the states. the vast majority from mexico. for years, it has been an intractable problem. some things are changing. some might have a better chance of success. many have come across the border illegally. also republicans are having a very serious briefing, wondering whether their attitude towards immigration costs them vital latino votes. >> this is rich, anglo, isolated judgmental. >> this is a republican and a veteran of six presidential campaigns but mitt romney did not verify to call. he's making a television ad to convince conservatives to back changes including to allow illegal workers to become

american citizens. you have to become more welcoming. you have to be the party that says yes, we are what america was founded on. we welcome everybody. >> at the old as country music venue in texas, it is clear that republicans might have trouble changing. >> if you are sneaking into the country and you don't have the proper identification resources, then, it is illegal and i like it. >> before you come over the border, you should be cleared to come over the border, correct? how would you like me to go over to britain and take one of your jobs? >> latinos are america's fastest-growing economic group. pleasing them by force the

politicians to forge an agreement. >> for more on immigration proposals that have been put forward, i'm joined now from new york by an investigative journalist. thank you very much for joining me. no one has managed to tackle immigration reform in this country since look reagan. do you think i can do it? >> i think that there is hope that he can do it. having covered this issue as a journalist come at a surprising that there is a very little in terms of the deep broad issues. it is fascinating but the line was that is being used as to what is happening in 1986. we have to talk about this in ways that really go deeper. i'm quite disappointed in both of the proposals.

>> would you talk to me about what mark found in texas? that fear that some americans have about immigrants. america is a nation of immigrants. you would think that a country that was founded on this would be opened to the idea of immigration reform. >> we actually have to look at this through the numbers. this is from the state of texas comptroller. what they found was that an undocumented immigrants contributed 17 billion in the texas economy at a cost of 1.5 billion. when you are talking about the economic argument, economists say we need to legalize undocumented immigrants.

when you leave immigration in this kind of tenuis way, a path to citizenship, people want to know what are the specifics. what does that look like? right now, getting at the end of the line is 110 years back. so there's something missing in terms of really going deep and frankly in terms of the president. this would be a moment to say let's look at who we are as an immigrant country. more money is spent on immigration enforcement than any other law enforcement combined. >> understand the argument you're making and the business community over woman the supports you. they want this immigration reform, they want people who are here illegally to be given

citizenship. what i'm trying to get at is there is clearly opposition to this reform. we heard it in that peace and we hear it all of the time from conservatives in the country who say there cannot be amnesty for people who are here was broken the law. >> well, and that is the why we're having this conversation. there has been an analysis that just says, if we continue to take this position, given the numbers of what's happened with demographics -- by the way, not all immigrants are latinos. they're the biggest group. >> the fastest growing group is actually asian americans. >> ok, but the point is that whether or not republicans actually say, well, we have to take a look at this and the liver, what does that mean? will there be a path to citizenship? let's have the conversation become more national so that

everyone can kind of come forward and say that we aren't comfortable with the fact that people have been in this country without documents. let's have that conversation but let's go deeper as opposed to a band-aid. >> thank you so much for joining us from new york. this conversation will go on for quite a long time in america. they are one of the world's most influential rock groups. they have to also be one of the oldest. the who became famous for their energetic performances. pete townshend and rodger adultery are the only surviving members of the group but proving perhaps age is no limit to vigor, they are planning a return for this summer. >> this is the story of a boy who sees himself as part of the band. after the album made it to number two in the u.k. charts

the story was turned into a film. >> we are doing a lot of shows here. i wanted to play in my home country. i think this is a quintessential british peace. i wanted to be able to because it is so great. >> it has been nearly 15 years -- 50 years since the who first got together. hard on their heels, the beatles and the rolling stones. they were not only the lightest rock'n'roll band also the most rebellious. two of the members have died rock star deaths. the other two are keen to keep rocking. >> what is the relationship between the two? there was a lot of stuff in the past, there was a tense relationship between you. >> there still is, isn't there?

>> i am waiting for roger to die. >> we have had a few raised voices even lately. i cannot imagine being more lucky, either of us, really to get to this place. we are both pushing and we have this great music and we can gather. the aura of the band, whoever we take on the stage we are so lucky. we're lucky to be friends in our lives and having roughly the same direction. >> the drunken rampages which earned them bans from all the major hotel chains are a thing of the past. life on the road by there and admission is a little bit more sedate. >> at do you ever have the desire to three television through a hotel window? "we don't argue with their

television -- >> we don't argue with our television sets anymore. i could not get them off the wall if i wanted to. >> despite the fact that they qualify for a bus pass, the group that sang "i hope i die before i get old" hopes to be rocking ball into their 70's. >> beat and rogers still going strong. returning now to our interview with hillary clinton. today, our state department correspondent sat down with her and she asked the question that everyone was wondering, what comes next? >> thank you very much for talking to the bbc during your last week as secretary of state. on monday, february fourth, you will wake up and for the first time in 20 years you will be unemployed. are you going to sleep all day or watch television? >> i am waiting to find out

because it is not just the last 20 years, i've had a job or been in school full time since i was 13. i'm really interested in seeing whether i can roll over and go back to sleep or whether it is so ingrained in me, i will pop up and wonder what to do that day. i'm looking forward to it. toto of the most common things my colleagues say to me is that they had no idea how tired they were. i have a pretty good idea how tired i have been trying to do all i could on behalf of the obama administration and our country. i want to catch up on sleep movies, watch a lot of home- improvement television, takes a long walks, spend time with my family and my friends. >> hillary clinton, the u.s. secretary of state on her last days in office. that brings to days -- broadcast to a close.

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