as the government shutdown begins its third day, both sides remain far apart. a meeting of top congressional leaders at the white house doing little to break the stalemate. >> the president reiterated one more time tonight that he will not negotiate. >> what the speaker has to accept is yes for an answer. this is a time of difficulty, but we trust in god. >> members of a north carolina church are among the eight people killed when their bus overturns on the highway. is your girlfriend still on fire? >> no. >> no? okay. >> and 911 outrage.

an arizona man-up set with an emergency operator who laughed during his call for help. captioning funded by cbs who laughed during his call for help. this is the "cbs morning news" for thursday, october 3rd, 2013. good morning. good to be with you. i'm anne-marie green. the budget standoff enters its third day today. president obama met with congressional leaders at the white house for more than an hour last night. participants described the conversation as useful and polite, but nothing was accomplished. a just released cbs news poll shows 44% blame republicans. 33% blame president obama and the democrats, and 17% blame both. susan mcginnis is in washington

and has the latest. susan, good morning. >> anne-marie, good morning. this was the first meeting between the president and leaders in congress since this shutdown began, and it pretty much ended with them coming out and reiterating they haven't budged from their positions. they'll slug it out again today while the federal workers sit at home with no paycheck bearing the brunt of this stalemate. congression alg leaders left the white house once again blaming each other for this government shutdown. >> we're three playing these games. >> republicans are standing their ground, saying any new budget agreement must include changes to the affordable care act. >> all we're asking for here is a discussion and fairness for the american people under obama care. >> democrats say they'll negotiate but only after the house passes a temporary budget with no strings attached. president obama believes there are enough votes for it to pass. >> the only thing that's stopping it is john boehner right now has not been willing to say no to a faction of the republican party that arealing to burn the house down because of an obsession over my health care initiative. >> with neither side showing any sign of giving in, the estimated 800,000 federal employees now

furloughed are bracing for what could be an extended period without pay. >> my honey-do list guests longer. >> bob turner is spending time gardening instead of working at the faa. >> it's definitely not like being on vacation. >> his income helps support his wife and daughter's family. >> you don't know what's on hand, how to plan for it. you don't know what the impact's going to be. >> turner's been through this before. he was furloughed in the last government shutdown in 1995. now, we are seeing more signs that a deal to fund the government is going to be partnered with an agreement to raise the nation's borrowing capacity. the united states reaches its department limit on october 17th, and that could mean this budget showdown, government shutdown could last until then. >> thank you, susan. police say a blown tire caused a fiery crash in northern tennessee.

it left at least eight people dead and 14 others injured. the bus was traveling from a religious gathering yesterday afternoon when the tire blew. jericka duncan has details. >> reporter: the bus jumped the median on interstate 40 yesterday afternoon as it was taking a senior citizen church group to their homes in statesville, north carolina. there were 18 people on board. the bus flip and suv and slammed into a trailer, which then burst into flames. >> in my 17 years it's probably the most serious incident i've been a part of. >> reporter: the bus ended up on its side noekt the next to the tractor trailer lying across two lanes of the interstate. the trailer was 50 feet away cut in half. 15 victims were on the bus. the driver and the passenger in the suv were also killed. >> this is involving three vehicles, and the dynamics are great. there are so many variables to this.

it's just -- it's a tre mmendou and it's a tremendous event, and it will take time to investigate it. >> reporter: the senior group belonged to a front street baptist church. a memorial service was held last night. >> this is a time of difficulty, but we trust in god. we trust that he is there always. >> reporter: the accident shut down the interstate for hours. authorities are trying to figure out what caused the bus tire to fail. jericka duncan, cbs news. a storm system brewing in the gulf of mexico has the potential to hit the northern gulf coast with heavy rain and gail force winds. cbs news weather consultant david bernard has the details. >> we're keeping an eye on the strong disturbance, and right now it's located right on the tip of the yucatan peninsula. we have quite a bit of thunderstorm activity developing around this low, but as of yet, not developing into a tropical storm. but that could happen any time within the next six to 12 hours. now, the current thinking is that this is going to move north through the gulf of mexico

throughout the day today, friday, and into saturday, and then make landfall somewhere along the northern gulf coast. the biggest threat whether this develops or not is going to be the potential for heavy rainfall and right now we could see excessive rains that could cause flooding anywhere from southeast louisiana to as far east as portions of the florida panhandle around pensacola. and, again, that would be generally over the next 48 hours or so. i'm david bernard, cbs news, miami. iran's new president hasan rouhani said again that iran is open to discussing details of its nuclear program and that his country is not seeking nuclear weapons, but israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu told "cbs morning news" anchor charlie rose he's not buying iran's charm offensive.

>> will they believe that the iranian regime can change and say whatever we were trying to do -- >> yeah. >> -- we're prepared to change. >> well, mahmoud amine jan was a wolf in wolf's clothing and rouhani is a wolf in sheep's clothing and we can't let him pull the wool over our eyes. so the answer to the question is can there be a real change? maybe yes, maybe not, but the only way to find out is to insist on an agreement that truly dismantles iran's nuclear program. >> you can see more of charlie rose's interview with israeli's prime minister benjamin netanyahu coming up on "cbs this morning." the director of the national security agency admitted his spy agency tested its ability to track americans' cell phone locations, but general keith alexander told the senate judiciary committee that the nsa leaves tracking americans' cell phones to the fbi. he said that may change in the future. the senate hearing was on proposed reforms in the nsa's surveillance programs. >> coming up on the "morning news," charges in a road rage case.

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fiber that's taste-free, grit-free and dissolves completely. so you can feel free to add it to anything. and feel better about doing it. better it with benefiber. a biker led police on a wild chase in southern california on wednesday. the pursuit stretched across three freeways and surface streets. then it took a bizarre turn. the man ditched his bike and went into a house. moments later he emerged dressed differently, and he was able evade the police as he was able to cash eulogily walk down the sidewalk. news tracked the man entering an auto zone but minutes later police surrounded the store and took him into custody. in new york a motorcyclist is facing charges this morning for a violent encounter invol involving a pack of bikers and a driver of an suv.

christopher cruz is charged with reckless driving and unlawful imprisonment. he's seen in the video slowing down in front of the suv and getting clipped. his attorney says cruz was trying to do the right thing. >> upon being hit he got off his motorcycle and he tried to immediately start the procedures for an accident, and it looks like this gentleman did panic because he was surrounded by other motorcyclists, and what happened everyone saw on the video. >> prosecutors say more charges are likely. they have questioned the suv driver and want to speak to more of the bikers, including the one who recorded the incident. and a jury in los angeles has rejected a lawsuit by michael jackson's mother against a concert promoter. the panel decided on wednesday that aeg was not negligent when it hired a doctor who caused jackson's death with an anesthetic overdose. conrad murray was convicted in 2011 with involuntary manslaughter. >> we felt he was competent to do the job of being a general practitioner. now that doesn't mean we felt he was ethical.

and maybe had the word "ethical" been in the question, it could have been a different outcome. >> a court victory could have meant hundreds of millions of dollars for katherine jackson and jackson's three children. well, straight ahead, your thursday morning weather, and why this video of a burning car cost one automaker millions of dollars. ♪ don't you want to see me flaunt what i got? ♪ oh. ♪ don't you ♪ don't you wanna, wanna ♪ don't you ♪ don't you wanna, wanna stress sweat is different than heat and activity sweat -- it smells worse. secret clinical strength gives you four times the protection against stress sweat. live fearlessly with secret clinical strength. mmm! this is delicious katie. it's not bad for canned soup, right? pfft! [ laughs ] you nearly had us there. canned soup. [ male announcer ] they just might think it's homemade.

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thunderstorms in chicago as well, but sunny in dallas, and some clouds in los angeles, a high of 74. on the "cbs moneywatch" now, tesla's stock plummets after a fiery video, and how much will you spend this holiday season? gigi stone is at the new york stock exchange with that and more. good morning, gigi. >> good morning, anne-marie. asian markets finished higher on the expectations that law firms will negotiate an end to the government shutdown. tokyo's nikkei added a quarter percent. hong kong's hang seng gained 1%. chief executives of the largest financial firm met with obama yesterday pressing for a resolution to the budget standoff. the dow jones lost 58 points, the nasdaq was down three points. tesla, the electric carmaker, says a fire that destroyed one of its expensive model s cars was caused when a metal object hit one of the car's batteries. shares of tesla motors fell more

than 6% when an internet video showed the car on fire. it was the stock's biggest decline since july. the driver said he struck something on the road. the empire state realty trust said it raised more than $750 million in its initial offerings. the investment track owns the empire state building and 11 other buildings in new york and connecticut. it sold 71.5 shares for $13 a share. it is not too early to start thinking about that holiday shopping. americans are expected to spend more this year than last. the national retail federation says americans are increasingly optimistic about the economy. sales in november and december are expected to rise nearly 4% to more than $600 billion. that could still change if the government shutdown continues, anne-marie. >> well, if they're spending more, i hope i'm on a lot of people's lists. >> right, exactly. >> gigi stone at the new york stock exchange. thanks a lot, gigi. well, in sports the tampa bay rays are moving on in baseball's postseason.

the rays go into cleveland and win the american league wild-card game, 4-0, over the indians. that's just two day after beating the rangers in texas to keep their season alive. the road trip continues for tampa bay as they travel to boston to start the a.l. divisional series. and some heat on the ice in colorado. avalanche coach patrick roy doesn't like the way the ducks are treating his star rookie nathan mackinnon, and he lets anaheim coach bruce boudreau know all about it. pushing the partition between the benches at boudreau. boudreau then pushes it back at roy. colorado whips the game, though, 6-1. and when we return, a 911 call gone wrong. a man calling to get some help is shocked when he hears the dispatcher laughing during his emergency. >> with hotwire's low prices, we can afford to take more trips this year. hit the beach in florida... >> and a reunion in seattle. when hotels have unsold rooms, they use hotwire to fill them. >> so we got our four-star hotels for half price! >> men: ♪ h-o-t-w-i-r-e, hotwire.com. ♪

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forecast in some cities around the country. washington, d.c., mostly sunny today. atlanta, sunny with a high of 83. st. louis will see some clouds, but still 84 the high. denver, clouds and sun. and seattle, sunny. an arizona man is outraged after he hears a 911 dispatcher laughing during his call for help. >> is your girlfriend still on fire? >> no. >> no? okay. >> it's hilarious. >> is your vehicle still on fire? >> it's hilarious, huh? >> lolo delgado called 911 last month when his car caught fire and burned his girlfriend. the dispatcher told him she was laughing at something else. but that's not what her bosses say. >> there's a startled response. it's not something you're expecting to hear. it's not laughing matter but it might be a defense mechanism by someone in that room. >> officials say the operator

called the ambulance within 15 seconds of getting off the phone with delgado. she's still at work while under investigation. critical hospital patients go into care for specialized treatment. those who recover, though, face new problems. as dr. jon lapook reports, researchers are linking long stays in the icu to serious brain impairments. >> reporter: 18 months ago lisa underwent gallbladder surgery. she spent three weeks sedated in the intensive care unit. after waking up, she knew something was wrong. >> i felt very confused, totally weak throughout my entire body. i thought this was something that would be normal for someone being in an icu. >> reporter: but after leaving the icu she never got better. now 46, uribe has short-term memory loss and has trouble thinking. she is unable to work and gets lost driving. >> being somewhere and not

knowing why you're there or what your purpose was for being in this location, it's a scary thing. >> very good. >> reporter: dr. wes ee ely of vanderbilt university co-authored a study involving brain function of more than 800 patients who spent time in the icu. >> what we found is a dramatic amount, 75% of patients leaving with cognitive impairment. and, in fact, one in three leaving in the realm of alzheimer's disease. >> reporter: those problems persisted for at least a year. there are several cause. severe illness which on its own can damage the brain. so can drugs used to sedate patients as well as the disorienting environment of the icu. >> when they survive, now they have to survive with essentially a new disease of the brain. >> reporter: the study also found that younger patients had the same problems as older ones. >> and that was the real new news here was that people in their 30s and 40s at the height of their earning capacity, et cetera, were leaving with this

newly found brain problem. >> reporter: lisa uribe tries to jog her memory with pictures. >> every day i wake up and think, this is the day i'm going to go back to my old life. >> this study ended in 2010. since then icus across the country have tried to develop programs across the country to prevent cognitive damage, lighter sedation, giving them a better look at night and day and getting them around as soon as possible. author tom clancy is remembering this morning for his stories of spies and soldiers. among the best known, "the hunt for red october," which was made into a movie. >> i present you the ballistic missile submarine red october. >> 17 of clancy's novels were number one bestsellers. attention to detail made him popular inside the military and intelligence communities. tom clancy died yesterday in baltimore after a brief illness. he was 66.

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4 minutes before 5:00 on this thursday morning. it's a pleasant day. meteorologist tim williams is over at first warning weather. >> good morning. it's pleasant. a high in the 80s well above our nor hal high -- our normal high. tomorrow could see a widely scattered shower in spots. 87 degrees our high going into your friday. we'll have your complete first warning weather forecast coming up. in the news this morning, day 3 of the government shutdown. it could be days or weeks before a deal is reached.

naval academy officials make a decision about this week end's football game in annapolis. the world mourns the loss of best sell issing author -- best selling author tom clancy. more on his life here in maryland. more news, first warning weather and your first traffic report of the morning in a couple of minutes. [ female announcer ] at royal caribbean, our ships are designed for wow. ♪ oh, oh ♪ sometimes, i get a good feeling ♪ ♪ yeah ♪ get a feeling that i never, never, never, never had before ♪ ♪ no, no, i get a good feeling ♪ ♪ [ female announcer ] all this, only on royal caribbean. book by october 15th to get up to $300 to spend onboard. call 1-800-royal-caribbean today.

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