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maybe we actually have to get ready, and if that's the case, i think we could be in for a bit of a ride. >> people may also not understand how much money it costs the government to be shut down. we talked about that on twitter in our interview on friday. you made the point, $1.6 billion last week according to an analyst from ihs. >> each day in terms of economic output in this country is $1.6 million. there are huge stakes here. if we get past the debt ceiling without a deal, even if we increase the interest rate on treasuries by one point, that's $120 billion annually. so huge costs to the real economy.

there is going to be a cloud, an overhang either way, because whatever deal we get sounds like it's going to be a short-term deal. through the holidays people are going to continue to be nervous. it's going to impact investment. i can't tell you that this ends badly, but i can't tell you that it ends well. >> all right. andrew ross sorkin, i know you'll be watching. thank you fo taking the time. >> thank you. >> as we look at the impact of this at the end of the week, here a poll about reelection. here's the question. would you vote to replace every member of congress if you could? 60% in our poll, 60%, said yes. chuck, you talked about it as a political depression. that is the question for all of you. are we in a political depression? >> well, when eight in ten americans say the country is headed in the wrong direction

and we're not in an economic downturn -- we're not in an economic downturn. it is a fragile economic recovery, but we're in recovery. it's clear we're in recovery. there is a little bit of optimism. so when you have eight in ten americans saying we're headed in the wrong direction, what is it? the only other time we were this bad in our poll was during the great recession and right after lehman brothers. there is no other way to explain it, and i think the country is totally now fed up with this broken political system. and, you know, yes, right now democrats are quote, unquote, benefitting because the republicans are taking the beating. but this is the crisis in confidence with the government and the political system. this is the hangover. >> judy woodruff, you covered these issues over time, but back in 1996 they were talking about the need to deal with medicare. it's washington's inability to get to pass this fundamental belief that you're 100% wrong and i'm 100% right.

>> that's right, david. i didn't cover the great depression, but when you think about it, this is as bad as it gets. if you go back to the 1930s before fdr and what the similarities are is back then it was the rich and the poor who were hurt by what was going on. today it is, as chuck just said, it's democrats and republicans. yes, republicans are hurt in the short run because people don't like that they think they're majorly responsible for the shutdown. but in the long term when people lose confidence in government and they think washington is dysfunctional, democrats believe government should be there to help solve our problems. so if the public no longer believes, has any faith in government, that hurts the democrats, too. >> kathleen? >> i'm actually surprised it's not more than 60%. >> that is high, though. we'll get there. >> it is a high, but even on the hill, republicans and democrats are equally frustrated and

equally disgusted with not only one another -- not the opposite party, necessarily, but even among themselves. and one of the strangest things, as we watch all of this, is it seems to me that the two protagonists, speaker boehner and the president, have similarly driven by the other parties. it's funny that they each know what the other needs. but the president has been driven primarily by senator reid, and for poor john boehner, i always precede his name with poor -- poor john boehner has this tea party resurrection. there is almost no one that can take control of what's come apart and almost everybody wants to. >> i raised this before and i raise it a second time because, as chuck said, the republicans have taken such a beating on this, harold.

but the president knew this was coming as well and didn't have to face reelection again. is there a certain aspect of this where he says, look, not only am i going to protect a future president from having to deal with these kinds of demands, but i can also deal with republicans if they want to shut down obama care and don't have support. >> you asked, would each of you be willing to blame the other 100%, and it was interesting their answer. there are two issues. whether or not we raise a debt ceiling. you have a proposal to raise it for six weeks, a proposal to raise it to the end of january, and you have a third one where it takes it to the end of the year. second, you have a group that wants to push it out to the end of january and another group wants to push it out for a few months later. when we look back we're going to wonder how on earth could the president and others not come to some agreement when you have plausible, attainable kind of

goals in front of us. two, the economy is ready to take off. you saw last week the market exploded. the biggest single gain the day of the year once it looked like a deal was within reach. last week reports demonstrated that america is now the number one interview produced in the world, about to take russia in natural gas and petroleum products, which means higher paying jobs. americans want to work. they want to get beyond this moment.

it seems for those who are outside of this, and i'm not as close to washington as i was before, a deal is within reach. to kathleen's point, it appears there are forces. tea party on one side, perhaps progressive liberals on the other, that are stopping us from each side taking a small step and conceding a little bit. boehner conceding on spending and president obama conceding with democrats around whether it's obama care or spending cuts. >> to your point, the fact is there were several proposals made that were completely within reasonable bounds by anyone's measure, including senator susan collins' proposal. >> to me none of these are reasonable to me right now because we're talking about six weeks, six months, eight weeks, maybe three months. you go to the cost of the shutdown. the cost of doing this six weeks at a time, even six months at a time, the cost of not having a budget that we haven't had in i don't know how long, an actual budget, the cost of doing that for the federal government is also costing us money. that's where it's sort of, to me, the most frustrating part is that they're fighting over a six-week deal. >> we need something to get be kwond this moment. >> you talk to the white house and they make it clear the president is not going to bend on the debt limit. he does not want to go with a short-term agreement on the debt limit because you turn around and it's december or january and you do it again. but they say if you can remove the threat of a debt limit, the president is ready to talk about spending, about appropriations, about the sequester, those automatic across-the-board cuts, so they're saying that ability is there but republicans have got to get over -- >> what is the -- here i asked the senators, so if you do get a

deal by thursday, what will they have overcome, chuck? part of it is how much do you spend for the next fiscal year? but obama care seems to be off the discussion. >> listen to rob portman. his two demands now were -- >> but he's not a house republican. >> -- no, and the demands on health care now are very, very tiny. the problem for republicans would be the deal that john boehner and mitch mcconnell would take they can't sell. john boehner is a guy that wants to do something about medicare and social security. the problem is, that does not sell with the tea party. the tea party caucus does not want this. they do not believe a big entitlement deal is really something to tout, certainly not something to take home to voters. >> john boehner could win an

increase in the debt ceiling as well as a reopening of the government if he chooses to reopen the hassle rule. if we get to tuesday and wednesday and he does not have a majority of republicans, all the democrats could bring maybe -- >> talks broke down last night between mcconnell and reid. the senate republicans thought they had a deal friday night. everybody thought yesterday it was all going to happen, and then reid backed off. part of that is the white house. they didn't like the sequester issues and these numbers that were rallying around collins. i think on wednesday boehner just takes the senate bill that's sitting there -- don't forget, at any point in time, he can just throw that out there, throw it in, put it out as one bill ask then we sort of punt for six weeks. >> obama care is still the center debate of all this. kathleen sebelius has been sort of the debating point of this, and we talked about her, she's the director of health and human services. she runs the health care plan. she runs obama care. >> she thinks she runs health

and security. >> it's part of the security verification. >> she was on jon stewart this week and it didn't go well. watch this. >> we're going to do a challenge. i'm going to try and download every movie ever made, and you're going to try to sign up for obama care and we'll see which happens first. >> funny line. unfortunately, a lot of truth. she struggled to answer why you would give a business a year delay but not an individual who has to, you know, adhere to the individual mandate. >> well, they don't want to give the correct answer, which is that obama care falls apart without the individual mandate. i mean, we need the young people to pay -- >> the unhealthy people. >> right, the unhealthier folks. as a fellow kathleen, i think we could cut her a little bit of slack. she was not effective. she should have been far better prepared with her answers. there is no good answer to the individual mandate. there is also no good answer as

to why this disastrous rollout. these people had plenty of time to get it together on the one hand. but they also had plenty of time to get their answers straight so when asked they could say not it's getting better, every day it's getting better. it just shouldn't have happened this way. >> let me take a break and we'll have more on this from the others with our roundtable, after this.way. >> let (announcer) scottrade knows our clients trade and invest their own way. with scottrade's smart text, i can quickly understand my charts, and spend more time trading. their quick trade bar lets my account follow me online so i can react in real-time. plus, my local scottrade office is there to help. because they know i don't trade like everybody. i trade like me. i'm with scottrade. (announcer) ranked highest in investor satisfaction with self-directed services by j.d. power and associates.

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here for fishermen. i'm here for our markets to be solid, for our economy to be good, for people to be able to buy my crab. >> the guy just wants to go fishing. he was the most eloquent on capitol hill saying, do your jobs. i got to go fishing, i got to make a living. >> and there are serious and not so serious repercussions from this data, but the fact is, and most of the country isn't feeling it. your nbc poll this week showed that. but there are serious effects, too. nih, we know people are not being accepted for medical clinical trials. what is it the white house said yesterday, out of five scientists in the government who are the winners of nobel prizes, four of them are furloughed, which is just a symbolic way of saying research has been shut down. the centers for disease control, food inspections are cut down, the salmonella outbreak on the west coast. no work that has been done on t.

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we're back once again with chuck todd for his first read sunday, a look ahead on politics and first the new jersey senate race. >> if it's tuesday, somebody will be voting again this tuesday. harry reid will get one democratic cory booker is going win. he sort of limped along, steve lonegan. he even had sarah palin campaigning with him yesterday. swing votes in new jersey. cory booker is going to be an impatient man when he's in the u.s. senate. this is not somebody who will enjoy being in the back bench. it's going to be interesting to watch. >> what else? >> move on. i want to show you speaking of

rabble rouze erke rousers in th. ted cruz. the republican party really is divided in two camps. half identifies with the tea party, half identifies with the non-tea party, and you see we did an interesting survey with the obama and romney pollster pollsters. the left wing and the right wing combined are a minority.

they do identify with one party over another but not comfortably. they like the government safety net, they're social libertarians, they're not really church-going people, but more interesting you need to know what they're doing later today, if they're not watching the show today, they're drinking beer and watching football. but it is a very interesting study. we'll have a lot of details on tuesday and people can go on the web and find where they fall. >> people have to wonder if it's 51%. >> this congress does not represent a majority of the country. that's what the study is going country. that's what the study is going to tell us. there is a pursuit we all share. a better life for your family, a better opportunity for your business, a better legacy to leave the world. we have always believed in this pursuit, striving to bring insight to every investment, and integrity to every plan. we are morgan stanley. and we're ready to work for you.

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this week despite the government shutdown. interesting fact, the last redesign happened in 1996, the same year as the last government shutdown 17 years ago. so around the horn here. deal by thursday? >> yeah, i think by wednesday. they have to. >> yes. >> yes. >> yes, but after that it's really hard for something long term. >> the question is does boehner remain speaker after that? >> all right. to be continued. thank you all very much. appreciate it. that's all for today. we'll be back next week. if it's sunday it's "meet the press."

>> unemployment, is sequestration and the government shutdown are all considerations in the homeless problem. today we will discuss baltimore's ten-year plan on this edition of 11 t.v. hill. even though maryland is considered to be one of the richest states, homelessness is an ongoing issue in baltimore. joining us is the executive of journey home, welcome, adrienne. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me this morning much. >> it is always something we need to talk about, for sure and it continues to be a

problem here in maryland. how do we tackle this in a way that has a lasting impact, because you can put a band-aid on it but it won't necessarily be fixed. >> right. one of the things that is great about being here today is we need to continue to raise awareness about this problem. in addition, we need to look across our community and have a greater understanding of what the need is for people experiencing homelessness in baltimore but also understand where there are gaps in our system. we know right now that there is a large gap in affordable housing for people that are experiencing homelessness. incomes have not been rising with the cost of housing. for someone living in baltimore city, they would need to earn $24.06 an ord asian hour to afford a two-bedroom apartment, so we know this is a problem and we know we need to identify opportunities to create more housing and capitalize on those opportunities. >> tell us more about journey home and how it is

going to impact this problem. >> certainly. the journey home is baltimore city's plan to make homelessness rare and brief. this plan brings together stakeholders from the public, private and non-profit sector all to work on solutions for ending homelessness. some of that focus is -- the way it will make a difference is that we will increase our supply of affordable housing, as i just mentioned. we will try to increase access to comprehensive and affordable healthcare that includes behavioral health and substance abuse services. we will work to ensure people have job opportunities and work to ensure that their incomes are sufficient so they can afford housing but another critical piece is building the safety net so when someone has a housing crisis, they can quickly resolve that crisis and get back home. >> we talk a lot about the changing face of the homeless population, and how, you know, it has changed so much because of the economy and how people who were just on the borderline of poverty are

now in that position that they never thought they would be in, so how is that problem being addressed? >> you know, one of the changing faces is that we're seeing as a result of the economy, is we see more families experiencing homelessness than we had seen before and we recognize this in baltimore city. we have a series of -- a network of outreach programs and the city has invested $1.2 million in these outreach programs where we go out and try to find families and individuals who are experiencing homelessness who are living on the streets or in shelters and try to engage them and get them connected to services. one particular program that i think is of note for families and children is our children's coordinate tore program. this program has coordinators that are in shelters working with families and children, in particular, to make sure they remain in school and are successful in school. >> that's a really important program, for sure. let's talk a little bit about funding these types of

projects, and you know, where is the money coming from and how are you soliciting it? it's not always a popular fund-raising -- it's not always popular for people to fund raise that way. >> indeed. i think one thing people need to remember is that homelessness affects everyone. preventing and ending homelessness is really a collective -- it's problem that needs collective responsibility. it will need a collective response and that will ultimately yield a collective impact, so what i mean is everybody has something to contribute and everybody, it's incumbent on all of us to help get people back on their feet. we've tried to raise money in the past, as you know, through hosting benefits. we're hosting our third benefit this year. it's an evening of unexpected delights, next saturday. >> now tell us a little more about that. that's going to be fun. >> the evening of unexpected delights, it's on saturday, october 19 at the convention center from 6:30 to 12:30.

you can purchase tickets for $250 a person. information is available on the journey home website. that's www journeyhome baltimore.org. >> tell us about some of the success stories that are coming out of the journey home project. >> absolutely. so as a result of implementing the journey home plan, we have had a couple of really important strategic investments and successes. one that's of note is that the housing authority has committed 500 vouchers that we are using to help house some of the most vulnerable people living in our community. another key success that just happened this past summer is the is city launched a docket for homeless persons. this is a court that helps people who have committed nonviolent misdemeanors get back on their feet and move towards self sufficiency. then, i guess, a final important success that we

just hosted last month was baltimore's project homeless connect. this is the second year we have hosted this day. it brings service providers and the services that people who are experiencing homeless need need to one location. we have served over 2,000 people this year. that's about a 100% increase from last year many we know there is a lot of need and we know we are doing a good job getting the word out. you for those who can't help by coming to the gala, what other ways can they contribute, even if it is in a small way? >> you can make donation through the journey home website. >> ok. anything else that we need to add? it is such an important topic. >> i just really appreciate that you gave us the time to come and talk about this really important issue this morning. >> absolutely. it's been a pleasure to talk to you and hopefully we can continue to get the word out on this, and a ten-year plan makes it really tangible and a real reality for people, so it's good to get some

people off the street and get help for them. we thank you. >> thank you. >> all right. coming up next, a remarkable story of how he was able to get off the streets.

>> sean colvin is living proof you can be a success. he is no longer homeless and has beat his drug addiction. he joins us to tell us about his new life. welcome. >> thank you for having me. >> this is quite a story. you have come from a long way, for sure. tell us about just what happened in your life that led you to drugs and eventually on the streets. >> well, i was actually raised in a good family with moral and social issues being bestowed upon me, but

it was when my mother remarried at the age of 12 that i started being physically abused by my stepfather. at the age of 12, i lived in the streets, a very difficult time trying to figure out how to survive and eat. detention centers, group homes, foster homes. i think that impacted me a lot in the loss of love and then also the love of direction and, you know, growing up as a man, you know. later on, as a teenager, i think still having that emptiness inside, i turned to the streets and starts smoking marijuana and things like that. >> and it spiraled out of control. >> oh, yeah. >> at what point in your life, how old were you when you kind of hit rock bottom and realized you needed help? >> probably about the age of 31, 32. that's when the cocaine use

became insane. i ended up becoming a homeless addict, living in alleys, eating out of dumpsters, eating out of dumpsters and living day to day just to use drugs. i knew god had his hand on me and that i really had a purpose, but i kept medicating myself to not feel the pain of what i was going through. >> so where do you find the strength to finally make a change and how did that change manifest itself? >> my inner strength comes from the man above, because i had no one. i lost everything. i mean, i disappeared from my family for a little over a 12 year period from where i was. i was considered a zero statistic in society's eyes. i mean, i was in the dumps. it wasn't until i came back to washington, d.c. in '08

and my addictions still followed me but a friend called me up and told me i needed to get out of balt more city and to -- gut up to baltimore city to the mission. >> what made your friend think that program was the one for you? >> he knew that the type of person i was, and how even though in this darkness, i still didn't fit in with the individuals i was around. he used to tell me all the time, him being a recovery addict himself, he used to tell me you don't belong. you don't fit in. i don't know why you're here. you have too many talents. so tell us what that process is once you got through the door of a helping mission and how long it took. >> actually, the day i walked into the mission, be seconds after i walked in the door, i just felt enlightened. to have a very strong

spiritual hold within the program. i knew i belonged there. as soon as i walked through the doors in the intake sat me down and talked and explained the whole program to me, i knew this was where i was supposed to be, right then and there, the day i got in there i decided this is where my life is going to change. >> that was your ticket out of a really horrible place. >> yes, definitely, most definitely. >> so fast forward to now and tell us about your success and how far you have come. >> ok. the program was a year. while in there, discovering myself, finding myself, find, finding my purpose, i discovered what i had a ministry through my hands. i can draw. my strong point was drawing comics. i always wanted to draw comics that had meaning, you know, something that would put a strong message out and i also noticed that when i was drawing, i was actually drawing my pain on paper, my

addiction. >> so it was a form of therapy for you? >> yes, it was. then all of a sudden i realized i actually was drawing a character based off of my life loosely and i said there is a hero in there, it's just up to you to tap in and release your full potential. >> an amazing artist you you are. >> thank you. >> talking about your experience, you are a motivational speaker as well? >> yes, i do lectures. i have done a couple of lectures at johns hopkins university. to this day i still go down to the mission and volunteer monday evening and teach art club 7 to 8 to the guys, wednesday from 1:00 to 2:00, i teach meditational type classes to the guys, anything to give back. that's what it's b. >> and you will give back at the journey home gala. you're scheduled to speak there. >> yes, that is a true blessing and it will be an amazing experience to do that, too. i mean, just everyone and

united way coming together and putting something together to address the serious issue of homelessness, and also me being a part of this to let you know that if i can do it you can do it. >> do you ever reflect back on those times? do you use it as motivation to keep going? >> i reflect on it every day because i don't want to forget where i come from because good things have been happening and a lot of times you get caught up and get lost in that, i never want to do that, you know. >> you were touched by your friend who helped you get help. who have you touched since? >> wow. that's a -- that goes back to my humbleness. i mean, i get a lot of people that call me and tell me, you know, your words have helped me today. you have helped me through a rough time. it feels good? >> it feels very good, but i

know that when i do what i do, it's because i want to help. >> we wish you success. >> where do people find you? >> through the website. >> we will post that information as well. we really appreciate you being here. >> thank you. >> thank you for having the courage to share your story. >> best of luck to you. stay to you when we come back, we have more on back, we have more on journey woah, this kitchen is beautiful! give him the tour. let me show you! soft-close drawers, farm sink! where's my room? we had to take just a little bit for the kitchen. because your kitchen dreams can be big. ikea has it all.

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more so now that the economy has changed so much. >> the economy has changed the face of homelessness and brought more resources and people, i think, to the fight. >> tell us more about journey home, because that's really the purpose of your visit, and how it is helping homeless people. >> journey home is our ten-year plan to end homelessness. we want to make sure that homelessness is rare and brief in baltimore, and i'm very proud of the leadership group that's come together. we have stakeholders from all walks of live who want to help us in this quest to end homelessness, and we are determined to use all of the resources that we have as a government, and bring the philanthropic community together to help families and you're right. what the changing economy, with that, it has been more difficult and a lot of people experiencing homelessness are children. we have to make sure those families have a firm foundation from which to launch. >> and i think that's an important point. you and i talked about in the past how shelters were kind of a quick fix, but to

actually focus on giving people a foundation is so important. >> it is. when i first got on the council, we were very focused, laser-like focused on the number of shelters and shelter beds, and then we realized yes, you can provide a bed to sleep in but what about the other services, the wraparound services, and the studies have shown that a shelter bed is not a launching pad. you want to get someone in supported housing, get a family in supportive housing and make sure they have the food that they need, the counseling they need if it's necessary, job straining, and to make sure that kids have a foundation so they can continue their education, even if their family is experiencing homelessness. >> talk more about this ten-year plan, what it entails and how people in the long run will benefit. >> people in the long run will benefit because, as i mentioned, we brought all the stakeholders together. we just hired an executive

director for the journey home to ensure all of the moving parts, all of us, are working together, and we have a housing first model. we are working as i mentioned before to make sure we are putting especially hard to place homeless into supportive housing to make sure they have a place from which, you know, they're trying to get their kids to school, the kids are going back to the same place every day, if they're out trying to find a job, they have a stable address from which to do that, and i'm really pleased that we are moving forward with the ten-year plan to end homelessness in a way that is bringing more people to the fight to make homelessness rare and brief. >> talk about, if you can, any of the success stories that you can point to recently. >> you know, some of the best success stories we see at our journey home fund-raiser, and we're in our third year of the journey home fund-raiser, and for the last two years we have passed the keys to a new home to a family and to see -- many of these are

women head of household families with young children, and they have struggled with going from place to place, a lot of what's called couch surfing, you know, at family's homes or friend's homes and shelters, and to see the weight lifted off of them when they are given the keys to that home and know that things are going to be different now, that they have a place to live, it's special. it's a special feeling, and we know that that story is being relived again and again through all of the work of our stakeholders in the journey home. >> why do you think there should be a responsibility for everyone, not just local governments but for everyone to shoulder? >> because we are one community, one baltimore, and one of the things i love about baltimore is the spirit of compassion that we have. we know that -- we don't look at people who are experiencing homelessness

and see people who don't want to better themselves. we see people who need a hand up, and that's what we're known for in baltimore, caring compassionate community, those who have means to give are helping with their wallets and those that don't are helping with ours, you know, helping with hours, helping with local pantries and food pantries an shelters. we know it is the right thing to do. we know we would want someone to do the same for us if we were in that situation and if we had a family member in need, we would want the same thing to be done, so, you know, we would say that's how we roll in baltimorement. >> that's right. that's right. and speaking of helping others out, tell us about the evening of unexpected delights coming up. >> it is very exciting. i have to be very careful because sometimes i can spill the beans and i will get in big trouble if i spill the beans. what are you allowed to reveal?

>> i am allowed to reveal that we will have major grammy winning artist as our surprise musical guest, and i will say that a lot of women will be very happy. that's all i'm going to say. i can say that he has performed for everyone from the president to, i don't know, lots of people, very, very popular. >> i have some ideas myself. i won't say what they are. >> are you a fan of this person? >> very big fan, and he's adorable. i don't know if i'm allowed to say that, so then we have all types of surprises. we're going to have surprise guest bartenders, other special guests. it's an evening of unexpected delights and it's really, really fun. last year the surprise guest was jennifer hudson who came down off the stage and got into a big conga line -- yes! with people in the audience. it is a great night of great

fun for an incredible cause. >> yeah, it is a great cause, and so the fund-raising goes to journey home. >> yes. >> will we see you in a conga line? >> if this person comes off the stage! yes. >> thank you very much. pleasure talking with you. >> d

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