>> announcer: from nbc news, this is "today" with kathie lee gifford and hoda kotb, live from studio 1a i >> hello, everybody, it's thirsty thursday, september 15th. hope you're having a great day. thanks for being with us. that's "rock on." we're rolling out the red carpet today for two ladies who are being treated to gorgeous looks courtesy of our ambush makeover theme. they're being transformed even as we speak. >> and if spending more money than you have happens to be your problem, we're here to tell you

we'll meet somebody who had bills piling up and got her family deep into debt and she hit rock bottom and turned to an expert for help. we're going to tell you some great advice that might help you out if you're in the same kind of trouble. you all right? you need a little sip of something? >> the food is so good, but spicy. sorry, everybody. >> she's one of hollywood it girls, shailene woodley. now she's in that snowden, the stone. we had oliver on yesterday. and she'll be with us today. >> yes, and our friend danny seo is in the kitchen with a one-pot crowd pleaser, perfect for a football weekend. >> danny holding a football just looks right. >> it does not look right to me. >> all right, so yesterday, yesterday was fun. we've been wanting to get together for a long time. yesterday with billy who's new to our family here.

jimmy's 86th birthday. >> it's hard to believe he's 86. >> we went over there and wished him well. he didn't realize but we also brought -- we're terrible camera people, as you'll see now. we had a little cake for him too. had to leave by then because you had your radio show. >> what a great guy. >> you know, the out. >> yeah, he was there, anyway, god bless him. best food in all of new york. go to miri's pub on east 57th. >> i get why it was like your kitchen. >> and billy now lives a block away. he was there again last night. >> if you were watching "america's got talent" last night, you were in for a real treat. america has officially fallen be in love with a little

player. her name is grace. when she first came on to the show, she came on to her audition. there's somebody on that program if somebody hits the golden buzzer, you go right to the finals. >> it's a great idea, it's exciting. >> so take a look at her audition. >> are you excited to be here? >> it's crazy. >> what are you going to sing? >> i'm singing an original. >> really? >> yes. >> and are the people at school behind you, >> most of my friends don't really know i sing. >> so they don't know you're here? >> no. >> you believe you can win? >> well, i mean, miracles can happen, so possibly. ? i don't play by the rules of games that we play ? ? i'm just trying ?

? i now know my name ? ? i don't play by the rules of the game ? >> oh, my god, don't you love her? >> it got more than 35 million hits on youtube. >> yeah, that one video. so last night, it was grace's night and her reaction is priceless. take a look. >> grace! [ cheers and applause ] >> youuy well. >> look at nick's hat. >> wow. grace, how's it feel? these are tears of joy, right? >> tears of joy. >> i am in love with her already too and i didn't even follow the competition. >> is she the sweetest? just so unassuming. her sister was, you know, in the back and just crying and the mom and the whole family. >> she won $1 million and won

she could have her own residency. >> she told parade magazine if she won she was going to donate money to a music charity and she also wants to build a tree house. with the help of the show "tree house masters." i can't wait to see that. what did you think, on another note, of nick cannon's outfit? this got a lot of attention. the white tux on and the turbinish item and that turbin had its own twitter account. >> yeah, it's not my favorite look. he's a great looking guy. maybe he was having a bad hair day so he just threw on a turbin. some other famous divas who tried that elegant look. oh, yes, elizabeth taylor can pull off anything. joan collins did it. >> she can too. >> and miss piggy did it. i love joan but she wore it

>> okay, how do we go about this one? >> ariana grande was on i heart radio. ryan asked her a question you would ask a star. she posted a picture of herself on instagram with this rapper named mack miller and she captioned it baby. >> what is going on there? >> nobody -- nobody knows. any way, the fans believed it was her way of confirming yes we're tangled up like that. ryan thought it was an appropriate question. let's see what her response is. take a look. >> i saw you confirmed this relationship with mack miller on instagram. >> oh, is that what i did? is that what instagram means to you now? all right, world, let's go. i mean, is that what that means? >> well, don't know, i'm asking. >> what are you asking? >> well, i'm asking. >> you said a sentence. there was no question. >> well, did you confirm something? >> i don't know, man. >> well, come on, man. >> it's like good morning on air with ryan seacrest.

of -- it's too early, man. >> if you post something, even if my life, if i post something, it becomes something. >> if i post something, that's what i'm willing to share at the moment. >> all right, but it becomes something. >> it doesn't mean you ryan seacrest with millions of listeners are entitled to more information. >> it doesn't? >> no. >> oh. >> mm. >> she's a very talented girl but i think she has an awful lot to learn about this business, you know. if you want things to be private, don't talk about don't put it out there and then don't be so rude to somebody who's just doing his job because you put it out there. it's his job to ask you about it. and don't act surprised when he does. >> yeah. >> you know, she's got a lot to learn about this business. she's brilliantly talented. if she wants to last for decades, start act like carol burnett and bette midler and people like that who know how to deal with people in a respectful

is the nicest guy. >> he's no jimmy ne re but he's a dole. >> have you ever been in an interview and it's become kind of adversarial and you get your back up? he's the opposite of that. he's the kind sweet guy. >> he's not looking for a got you moment at all. >> frankly, we were just talking about ryan and adrianna lima and the possibility they were dating because of pictures on instagram. you just say yes or no. >> i want to we've got to go to this little girl. do we have time? please. all right, my friends who are staying at my house. she showed me last night. i went, it's dave,' father of two, sang with his daughter claire to sleep every night. when she was 16 months, she started to join in and sang every word. she loved the movie "tangled." she sings the song see the light. look at the video they made. you're not going to believe

? all so clear ? ? and at least i see the light ? >> oh, they're showing that part. we want to see her with her daddy. >> we showed it in the beginning. there's her father like prince charming. this little child -- >> beautiful. >> sweet. >> it's just the cutest. >> ruin the moment. >> this is going to make the >> we got a little nicki minaj. >> i don't think so. >> a little throwback called "star ship." ?? okay, okay. here comes the part that we love. >> don't say we.

? so give me more more ? >> here comes the star ship part. >> ? if you want more more ? >> here it comes. ? star ships were meant to fly ? ? stand up and touch the sky ? ? can't stop ? ? 'cause we're so high ? ? let's do this one more time ? >> i get it, star ships. >> i'm happy for you, hoda, and everybody else who likes that. there's a lot of space in the world for people to have their own taste. i wish other people would give me the same right. >> we do. >> you do. but not a lot of people that don't like what i say. >> come on. >> it's all right, it's all right. this country's big enough for all of us. by the way, you can find her music, on i-hoda, on apple music. >> you can also catch up on sirius radio show, i have a radio show, you can catch it there too if you like.

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credit card debt. and a car that had been towed away. after lots belt tightening, they crawled out of that hole six years ago. >> yep, good for you, honey. >> now lauren is helping others change their ways with the new book "the recovering spender." she's here with bridgette spinny, a married mom of three who reached out in desperation after overspending on vacations, clothes, shoes and everything we all love which left her family in debt. >> it's so easy to get in tha it's quicksand. >> i hear from people every single day in the same exact. i said, i've got to help her. yeah, that's what we did. >> it took you six years to get out of -- to really get out of debt. it must have felt like you were just so deep in the hole, like how am i ever going to crawl my way out of this thing. >> yeah, definitely. just trying to do it on your own is hard.

story. >> we're probably -- well, we are $27,000 in debt. i did want finer things. i felt like i had worked my way up in the hospital and i made really good money. andy makes good money. we should be able to afford to have these nicer things. so we found ourselves starting to get behind because, you know, as your kids get older, there's more soccer games, t's outings with friends, vacations. it seems like all of our friends had a lot of money to be able to go do those things. and we didn't. but we still wanted to do them. so then you find yourself one payment behind. two payments behind. and how are we going to make it up. and then you kind of got so far behind. for me, one of the biggest points was watching my son.

caddied on the weekends. i would deposit his money into his bank account and sometimes take a 20 because i needed to pay for something else. andy wasn't on board yet. and he says to me, i don't think we need to do that. i don't think we need to air our dirty laundry out to everybody. and i looked at him and said, we are just like alcoholics. or drug addicts. if we don't admit we have a problem, we can't solve it. we can't keepin of we have money. we look like we have money. we really don't have any money. i felt like it would bring me just a little bit of peace in my life to know that people knew and i didn't have to key pretending. >> wow. very brave of you. >> bridget, it really, really is. >> stick around, everybody. lauren and bridget have some

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as you heard before the break, bridget and her family have $27,000 of credit card debt and that's on top of her mortgage. author of the new book "the recovering spender" started working with bridget. why do so many of us lose control when it comes to spending? psychologist elizabeth lombardo is here to answer that question. so the gang's all here. you started off $27,000 in debt. are you? this is just a few months ago. where are you today? >> so we were able to do an emergency fund so we have $1,500 in our emergency fund and then paid off our first $1,000 towards -- >> in one month? >> in three months. also, i want to take note, she was also behind in her mortgage by a few months. so she caught up to the mortgage. she put $1,500 in an emergency savings account. >> if you missed any of the

you so happy like the shoes and the vacations and all of that stuff? >> no, no. and my kids are better at it now too. they know what we've done so we're very proud of them. >> you know better than anyone. you were so deeply in debt and it took you six years to get out. what were the first things you advised bridget to do? >> in my book, i talk about a 12-step process of how to get out of debt and redefine your life with your money. so some of the steps i talked about was you really need to learn how to declutter your life to regain your joy. i've been on here talking about decluttering but how do you do that and then put money aside. also taking an inventory of your spending. that was one of her downfalls. she didn't know where her money was going. >> kind of like eating. >> what was your biggest achilles heel? you weren't buying big things. >> not budgeting, using our atm. >> you took out $100 and $100 and it added up. >> and not keeping track of where that went and you were

now, now we're catching up then. >> good for you. >> elizabeth, there are whys behind all of this. a lot of us are guilty of this. >> of course. >> of course what are the big whys? >> we're focusing on the show term. what i want now. as opposed to long term what makes sense. a lot of times people when they feel stressed, then might go to food. some people go to shopping. it helps bring down the stress temporarily. in the long term it increases your stress, which then makes it more likely you're going to overspend and actually >> it's a vicious cycle. >> it is. >> you can actually see the stress disappearing. we were watching you in the piece and you were so emotional because you were back in that space. but how does it feel to know you're kind of climbing out now? >> one the things i said on the video was i just need a little bit of peace and i'm starting to feel that. and so it gives you that momentum. >> you're feeling hope. >> yes. >> you see it's going to take a while but this is working. >> yes, from when i first started working with her, you know, back in may to where she

family. and you can see the stress every single video go off more and more and more. it was just incredible. just incredible. >> and family -- >> and think of what you're going to save in beauty creams. >> and your family life must be -- i can only imagine how much less stress. everybody's involved in it, right? >> my kids are on board and they know when i talk to my son, he said, yes, just had to be done. >> love this kid who's got two >> i know, i know. >> and we do feel entitled a little bit. we see everybody that's got everything in this world. it's natural to want it. >> especially you work hard, you kind of deserve it. we tend to compare ourselves to other people. say if they have it, i should have it too so i can kind of keep up with the joneses. that's not going to bring you more happiness. you have already seen it only increases your stress. >> and your marriage is stronger now which is great. >> thank you, guys. all right, if you're trying to

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it's thirsty thursday and there were a bevy of beauties on the plaza early this morning all hoping to be picked for ambush makeover. >> but we managed to narrow it down to two deserving women who wanted looks courtesy of her "today" contribuor louis licari. and jill martin. how was it out there today? >> actually, it felt like fall for about ten minutes, i know it's going to be warmer. certainly say, i feel like we graduated. look where we are. >> trying something new today. >> fantastic. >> we're trying the big kids studio. >> that's right. >> our first lucky lady is

she works as a human re, sos assistant. she often works from 6:00 in the morning to 6:00 at night. doesn't have time to pamper herself. she's in the city enjoying a girls getaway. she says she wants to get a makeover because she thinks she looks older than she really is. let's listen to the story. >> you've never seen the segment so do you have any idea what you're about to endure? >> not at all. i have no clue. >> everyone's laughing because this is going to be fun, right? okay, so we're going a whole new look, you will look entirely different. >> oh, my husband will be happy. all right, we'll take care of you. >> all right, thank you very much. >> okay, guess who she's here with, her sisters in law. we have susan and elizabeth. >> welcome, ladies. >> please keep your blindfolds on until we give you the green light. are you ready? here is carol before.

carol. >> oh, wow, wow. all right, ladies. take off your blindfolds. >> oh, wow. >> wow. okay. >> are you ready to see yourself, carol? turn around, take a look. >> oh, my god. oh, my god. >> i love it. >> tell us about the hair. >> okay, carol, thank you very much, first of all. the first thing i did is of course you had gray ir less, is to, in fact, color your hair. that's exactly what we did. single single process, no big deal here at all. then jenny gave her this wonderful haircut. she blew out the curls. she reshaped it to her face. there's a little more fringe on her forehead. and she just looks gorgeous. >> ladies, what do you think? >> we love it. >> your people love it.

cool black. you are hip. >> this is me. and we're so happy. >> oh, good. the dress is white house black market. you have a green one that's similar to this. >> oh, yeah. >> and then the jacket is calvin and of course great black booties. >> a big round of applause for carol. you can come over here and join her, people. our second lady is jean, she's 60 on monday, happy birthday to her. she's from manchester, iowa. she's a home care and hospice business. mows 31 lawns a week. bless her heart. she's been married 40 years. her 9-year-old grandson conner suggested she didn't wear makeup this morning to improve her chances of being pickford an ambush makeover. let's hear her story. >> conner, we saw you pointing at grandma saying please. why is it so important to you? >> we've been talking about it all summer and she really -- and she thought it was a joke, but then she got picked.

you excited? >> so excited. i want to make his wish come true. >> oh, great for them. >> i want grandchildren. all right, here with her daughter crystal and her grandson conner. one last look at jean before. let's bring jean out now. see her makeover. all right. look at that outfit. wow. all right. wow. ladies, you can take off -- and gentleman, you can take blindfold. >> oh, my god. >> what do you think? >> oh, my god, mom. i'm so happy for you. >> turn around and see why they're crying. >> i can't believe it. this is me? >> it is you. your inner you come out. >> oh, just gorgeous. >> what do you think, amazing? >> oh! >> get our kleenex any day now.

this great haircut. it used to be a shag. she reshaped it to her face. she looked years younger. then i refreshed her color. she did have a warm color. i made it a much richer color. it was all accented with the makeup. it's a cutting story and the quick et way to change your look is with those three things. >> the minute she walked out, i went, oh. >> i know, we all want that jacket. >> it's like that cozy collar. >> perfect for fall. >> it's from calvin? >> and the jeans and she dazzle shoes. >> beautiful. >> come over here. >> she looks pretty good. >> aw. >> let's bring both of your ladies out. we've got danny seo back with

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shailene woodley's big break came just five years ago opposite george clooney in the oscar award winning film "the descendants." the role scored her a golden globe nomination. not too shabby. in 2014, she landed the lead role in a little box office fris it's called "divergent." and the big screen adaptation of the big selling novel "the fault in our stars" about two cancer stricken teens who fall in love. one of my favorites. now in her latest film, oliver stone's "snowden," the 24-year-old plays lindsay is the real-life girlfriend of nsa whistleblower edward snowden. take a look. >> smart conservatives make me so mad. >> probably because you don't like hearing the truth.

individual. you know that. how am i going to make you see? >> i can see just fine, thank you. >> not bad. >> no, that did nothing for me. tastes like liberal. >> and we're so happy to have you here. >> hi. >> hi. >> i've seen the film and i real r i think edward snowden is the type of person that when the news broke, you either had a reaction right away like, what a patriot, he's a whistleblower, or what a traitor. he sold out his country. >> you were interested in this story from the beginning yourself, weren't you? >> i was, yeah. fascinating, intrigued and deeply affected the way i lived my life. the thing like you were just mentioning, this movie really

narratives that don't belong to the actual subject, right. >> because we didn't know much about him humanly. we just know what he did. >> yeah, exactly. >> he didn't deny that he did it. you bring humanity to him in my estimation. >> did you learn a lot about this? i love to know that you were already interested in it. which is great. did you learn a lot about him and his life through this? >> i learned a lot more than before. before, like most of us, i knew nothing about edward snowden the i knew about edward snowden, the words of reporters and our government. so it was nice to get to know the history and the different trials and tribulations that he walked through that led him ultimately to make the decision he made. >> this is the first time i understand you played a real-life person. was that exciting for you or a little bit more hesitant about it? >> it was exciting. there's a certain pressure that i didn't experience that i'd never experienced before which

performance but also you want to make sure that you're protecting the integrity of who that human being is, you're honoring them and doing them justice. so that was sort of this lingering thought. i didn't get to meet lindsay until three months into filming. the first time i met her, she came to the film. like, wow, am i doing her okay? >> she watched you. did she say anything to you about how you were capturing her? >> yeah, you know, i think it's probably an trippy experience to watch someone pretend to be you without knowing you, you know. i can only imagine what that would be like. >> you just wrapped up filming "big little life," what a cast, huh? it's got reese witherspoon. >> nicole. >> nicole kidman. >> what was that like? >> it was amazing. i was just talking to the producer the other day and she's, like, it's amazing to see

the forefront but not trying to push like a pro-female woman agenda, just showcasing the lives of women. you never see projects like that. so i'm really excited to see how it companies out. >> when will that be out? >> i don't know exactly but i'm hearing early next year. >> how about eventually? >> yes, eventually. it will come out eventually. >> it's really a riveting film. "snowden" hits theaters

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satisfy you. danny seo. >> danny and tailgating go hand-in-hand. >> that's what i think when think of football, yeah. >> he's the author of "naturally delicious, 100 recipes for healthy eats that make you happy." hoda was flirting with danny so she didn't read her words. hi, danny. let me fix you, baby. >> i'm got a brand-new cookbook. we're all cooking together. >> i never cooked with you. how do we make this? >> this is the world's one pot 20-minute chili. the secret ingredient -- every dish in the book has a hero ingredient and this is grass-fed beef. >> why is that the hero? >> because cows are eating grass instead of grain, it's better for the environment. also in terms of the beef, it's higher in content in omega for brain health and it tastes better too. >> and they probably don't have as much flatulence because -- that's true. >> let it go.

for the environment, hoda. >> garlic, onions, a little olive oil. cook this until it's translucent. >> which takes ten minutes? >> five minutes. then add the grass fed beef. we've got a wonderful combination of grass fed beef, onions, garlic. we add our hero ingredient, so we add our beef broth, thank you for doing that. >> you're welcome. >> the whole thing. >> here's my secret to making a cheater chili that tastes like you spent a can of salsa. okay. or bottle. dump the whole thing in. this is my super secret. >> what? >> it's a can of tomatoes but they're fire-roasted to matos. because it tastes -- >> you like things spicy. >> it tastes like you made it for hours and hours but it's just 20 minutes. >> all right, come on down. >> we got our spices.

>> is he still talking? >> i'm still talking. >> we use or gabbic spices because they're not irradiated. did you want to try? >> yes, of course. >> we customize with cheese. >> i'm going to be good today. >> what do you think? >> very flavorful. >> 20 minutes. >> unbelieve be a, right? >> perfect amount of spice. >> for tailgate, people who come over at the last minute. >> delicious. wait, there's more back here. >> a vegen cookie. the hero ingredient. >> what is it? >> so we are going to make this great amazing -- kathie lee. >> the other way, the other way. >> they're heating it up. >> we've got something called coconut sugar. this is really delicious, it's low into glycemic, it's healthy for you. we're adding some oats. this is a vegen recipe. apple sauce, baking soda, baking powder, a little salt.

>> the naturally delicious ingredient, two cans of chick peas. >> garbanzo beans. >> for a cake. what we're going to do is -- put this in. >> that's crazy. >> you know what i love about this. you know that liquid? there's a liquid in here, you don't want to throw it away, it's a great egg replacer too. so you can save that and use it for vegen cooking. >> want to know what it tastes like. >> chocolate chips. all mixes together. we add this into a pregreased cookie pan. >> that's fantastic! i'm shocked. >> vegen. >> i'm shocked. usually vegan deserts don't taste good. >> they taste like cardboard. >> fantastic, thank you, danny. welcome to the family. you'll be haeshing about his new show. >> we'll be back in a moment but

all right, we have a question, is it okay or not okay to share bed selfies? >> celebrity couples like jamie schumer and her boyfriend ben, gigi hadid and zane malik have all shared those kind selfies on social media. >> here's what we had to say about it. >> hoda, i think certain things should be saved as sacred for a couple because once you share it with the world, it's no >> i say, i agree. no, it's not okay. i think some things should be sacred. >> we used the same word. wow. >> wow. >> doesn't happen very often. tomorrow, we have the delightful miley cyrus is going to be with us. >> plus, a big surprise, a couple of deserving women. >> and bobbi's back with ways to keep that summer glow all year

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