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to run away. >> his father an electrician says his youngest son was always by his side. >> he was an entrepreneur, started making money early on shoveling snow. >> and he loved val's food. gary was a co-owner at the store and brian was his favorite employee. >> he was sort but you never have no idea how smart he was. if you tell him to do one thing one time, this is what i want you to do, next time he will tell you what to do. >> he was a go getter. >> there were more people like brian in the country, it would be a beautiful future for america. >> in johns burg, everybody knew the care ricks, a working class irish catholic family with 14 children, brian the 11th. >> they said when they got married, god give ugs as many kids as you want us to have.
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>> describe them. very nice people. they didn't have the best clothes or the best school supplies. but they had a lot of love. >> that december 20th was brian's day off but he went to val's looking for a coworker passing his brother eddy also a sfok boy on the way. >> eddy was going out to get the carts from the parking lot and brian was walking into the store. that. >> the next day his mother received a call. >> she went upstairs, he wasn't in his bed. she knew immediately there was something wrong. >> within days johnsburg was reeling in disbelief. this is not the town where people went missing. >> johnsburg is a family church oriented community. to have something like this
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>> supporters gathered at a vigil for brian. his mother the strange matriarch visibly shaken. >> horror, the torture of not knowing, the torture of not knowing where he is or what's happened. that's every parents' worst nightmare and i guess we're living it. >> as weeks passed no one knew if brian was dead or alive. >> the johnsburg police were involved, illinois state police involved. people were searching the places where brian might go. they had the search dogs, they had psychics coming to terry's front door and try and tell her where he might be. >> val's food posted a $25,000 reward. i think some people would look at that saying, you're putting up 25,000 dollars for somebody who works for them, not a family member but an employee. >> they needed it. they didn't have the money.
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find what happened to him. >> two of johnsburgs most well-known families, friends for nearly 25 years, almost half of the care rick kids had worked at val's. >> i understand you have a picture of him in your wallet. >> yeah, definitely. >> you're still carrying this picture of a man who worked for you as a stockboy. why do you carry this picture with you? >> because to me he was like a son. >> an early break revealed blood evidence in and around the grocery store produce cooler, news no one wanted to hear, drops, smarters, smears, a bloody fingerprint, brian's blood. what heartbreaking mystery did the family's grocery store hold. >> what was your reaction when they found the blood. >> immediately it was like who did it. everybody was on edge. >> before long police zero in on
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here apparent to the family business. >> are you kidding me? >> you guys were shocked at that point. >> yes. completely shocked. >> mario is really one of the nicest kind intelligent funny just a sweetheart. >> but cops were beginning to develop a more sinister profile. as brian's father would share with a local reporter. >> mario allegedly was selling dope and i think he coerced my son into working for him. and somehow, yeah, things got out of hand. >> there are rumors that there were some things going on at the grocery store that shouldn't have been going on. >> tell me about that theory. >> the story is that mario was selling drugs and that he would use some of the kids from the grocery store, like brian, to sell the drugs. and brian being the sweet kid he is, wouldn't always collect the money. >> authorities were convinced that the boy who freely gave
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play. they believe he was killed over a $400 or $500 drug debt he owed mario. >> police began to dig into mario a little bit and they believed he was selling drugs. >> i think maybe he smoked pot. i think maybe him and his friends bought it and sold it to each other. i mean, you're talking about a very small amount. >> but with no eyewitnesses, no physical evidence tying mario to the crime scene or even a body, the investigation grew cold and so did the bond between the care ricks and the ka sar ros. >> the relationship had gone sour and then one day my dad say brian's mother had come in the store and she kind of turned her back to him when he approached her to say hello. spoke to him. >> but for mario, life was moving on. >> mario anthony.
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degree in finance from illinois state university, three years after brian's disappearance. mario joined the family grocery, worked as a manager and helped build the business. >> that was not the only store that he was going to have. i was always going to be two stores and three stores and four stores. >> that grand plan would never happen. mario's world was about to collapse around him. a break in the case. this stockboy shane lamb would change everything with a tail of violence in the produce cooler the night brian vanished. >> i hit brian a few times, he was bleeding from his mouth. i thought i knocked him out. >> where is mario when you're doing this? >> right in the doorway. >> what did happen to brian care rik. stay with us. mmmm... when you add liquid gold velveeta to rotel tomatoes and zesty chilies,
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everybody for attending tonight. a toast to prosperity and the future. >> happy member frs mario and the casciaro clan. older brother's italian wedding. but good times were in short supply for this family. grisly rumors about brian carrick's murder and the casciaro's involvement had taken hold. >> one of the stories is that brian was killed in the cooler, mario called family from the city who came in, dug him up, dismembered him and threw him in a river in iowa. it snowballed into these disgusting rumors that he was cut up in our meat department. then it started becoming that our family was involved in some kind of crime family. >> the fbi investigated and dismissed rumors of a mob hit. this case may have remained an unsolved mystery if not for this man.
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attorney michael combs. >> also known as nick combs. a tough prosecutored determined to find justice for the carrick family. prosecutor combs finds a key witness. his name, shane lamb. >> who is shane lamb? >> shane lamb, he's got a criminal history. he grew up rough. i think he's a very tragic character in all of this. >> a stockboy at val's who worked alongside brian and mario. a five-time felon with a rap sheet that included attempted murder at just 14. he repeatedly denied knowing anything about brian's disappearance to authorities. now eight years later in jail facing up to 12 years on drug charges, he was ready to talk. but first he wanted a deal and so did prosecutors.
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from the offense of murder and voluntary homicide. >> with this deal, shane escaped all charges related to brian's death and a reduced drug sentence. all he had to do to get the deal, tell his story. and that led police to mario. >> what exactly did mario tell you? >> pretty much talk to brian, intimidate him into getting the money. >> how were you to intimidate him? >> talk to him. he never said kill him or anything like that. >> a controversial deal awarded to man who admits he was the likely killer and mario the master mooind. >> mario knew what he was doing as bringing shane lamb in using him as the tool and the muscle to get what he wanted. >> shane was off that night at a party getting high. he says mario called him to come to the store. brian owed him money and he wanted it back. mario wanted shane to talk to him.
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>> i went over there, told brian what's up with the money you owe him, pay him some of the money back. we got to arguing. loud. go in the produce cooler. >> shane said he demanded the resisted. shane lost his temper. things tournament violent. >> i hit brian a couple of mouth and fell out. >> where is mario when you're doing this? >> right in the doorway. >> not sure if brian was dead or alive, shane said mario told him to leave and he would handle it. >> armed with a confession of a serial felon, police arrest mario charging him with brian's murder. a bitter suite victory for bill carrick. a moment his wife didn't live to see.
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a moment of utter disbelief. >> i wanted justice for the carricks, but they got the wrong guy. >> combs was convinced that mario and shane acts a duo. he charged mario with murder with intimidation, he insisted it didn't matter that mario never touched brian or ordered he was guilty setting into motion the events that killed him by just uttering the words, talk to him. >> had you ever heard of this kind of charge before? >> no. it's very rare. >> had it ever been used before? >> to my understanding it hadn't. >> the case goes to trial and after 12 hours jurors return deadlocked, 11 to 1 in favor of the prosecution. combs explain. >> sometimes laypeople struggle with one person being accountable for the actions of another. >> when you learned it with us a hung jury, what were you thinking? >> frustrated.
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in just over a year they were back in court. more determined than ever. hammering away at their key witness, shane lamb, calling him mario's enforcer, the one who carried out his dirty work. >> the prosecutor said don't bring mother teresa to a shakedown. bring a bad ass like shane lamb. >> in closing arguments, prosecutors branding the pair mean little delinquents. >> this is a narrative the prosecutors are building so that people can see mario as some dangerous nefarious figure. >> if you have evidence you stick to the facts, here's his dna, his blood, the time line. they didn't have any of that. >> no. >> so they had to dirty him up a little bit. >> prosecutor's clever strategy worked. man who didn't say a word
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this is where i first met mario casciaro, behind the century old walls of maynard. one of the country's toughest maximum security prisons with just where brian carrick's grieving father believed he belonged. >> everything i've heard about this maximum security prisons is bad. i guess he's earned his place. >> the college grate waj, now a convicted murderer, shackled and chained to the floor. >> i'm not a criminal. nobody in my family has ever been in handcuffs. i'm the fist. and that includes extended family as well. >> brian carrick's family believes that you belong here. >> if allegations are repeated
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say seven years, you begin to believe that it's a fact. >> the car riks believe that you know where brian's body is. >> it's sad that they think that. it's sad that they would ever think something like that. brian. >> mario says that brian carrick had a good relationship. >> he was a good guy. good family. he worked hard. one of my favorite coworkers. >> his memories of that fateful night are still vivid. just five days before christmas the store packed with shoppers, filling their carts with all of the makings of christmas dinner. it was brian's day off but he showed up that evening around 6:30 asking for another stockboy, robert render. >> and brian was looking for render and asked me if i had seen him, where is this guy. i paged him and that was the last time i seen him. >> after seeing brian, mario
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nearby, sharing it with employees in a break room. clear across the other side of the store from the produce cooler. that's his alibi. mario says he helped close the store as usual at 8:00. both the defense and prosecutors believe brian was murdered before closing time. >> did you kill brian carrick? >> absolutely not. >> are you responsible in any way for his death? >> no he calls calling shane lamb to the store to talk to brian. >> this is important because police believe you call shame lamb. did you ever call him in. >> no. we actually gave them my phone records and showed them there was no call. >> shane on your urging of talk to him, has an altercation with brian carrick, punches him a few times, lay him out, you tell shane go, i'll take care of this. any truth to that? >> not at all. i didn't see shane in the build that evening. why would i say let he take care of this for you.
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let me take care of a murder for you. be serious, you know what i mean. >> he questions why anybody would believe he would take a murder rap for shane lamb who has only worked at the store for two months. >> how could he get himself in a position where he's willing to do this for someone else wh. >> what about the witnesses who testified that mario sold pot? >> did you ever sell drugs. >> there were times when i was smoking pot that i would sell people pot out of my personal sfash stash. it was a criminal enterprise. >> did brian ever sell pot for you? >> no. >> did brian ever owe you money for selling pot? >> no. so the claim of him owing you $400, $500 -- >> that's all made it. they made it seem like it was a huge criminal enterprise. they went so far to say i was a
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that's significantly different from smoking weed with your friends. >> there is one decision that haunts him. >> you didn't testify at your trial. how do you feel about that decision now? >> i think it was the wrong decision. i wanted to do it at the time. i was just advised not to. >> guidance from his attorney that day may have cost him his freedom. >> the verdict, what's going through your mind as you're waiting for the verdict in the second trial? >> what is taking so long? what are they thinking about? what could they possibly have they've seen? >> did you think at that point family? sure did. cards. a guilty verdict, mayory's mother's outrage caught my local news cameras. >> my son is innocent. >> his family sobbed. his father wailed. mario was confident the whole time. then he dropped his head. he was shocked that he would
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there's no physical evidence. it was heart wrenching. it was as if mario had died. >> can you make it 26 years in here? >> i don't want to. i mean if i have to, i will find a way but i don't want to. i don't want to sit every day thinking about how did i get her. because it's -- i don't have the answers. you know what i mean? >> but next, a woman who thinks she does have the answers. enter mayory's new attorney. >> what is on this door. >> who is convinced she knows who killed brian and exactly how it was done. stay with us. hey man! hey peter. (unenthusiastic) oh... ha ha ha! joanne? is that you? it's me... you don't look a day over 70. am i right? r jingle jingle. if you're peter pan, you stay young forever. it's what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. you make me feel so young...
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after mario was sentenced to 26 years for murder he says he didn't commit, his family vowed to fight on until he was freed. >> there was no physical evidence, no dna, no witnesses and no motive. >> when you are innocent, you are going to fight until the very end because you know you're innocent. and we're going to fight until the end because we're 100% behind him. >> and that's why they hired this gladiator to appeal his case. a high powered attorney with a reputation for overturning convictions, zel nar reviews the evidence and uncovers what she believes are secrets long tucked away inside the family's groesry store. >> i believe we have an excellent case that will be reversed outright. >> she believes the evidence
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shane lamb but another stockboy, rob render, an early suspect in the case who brian accused of stealing alcohol from the store and the one brian was looking for at the day he vanished. >> what do we know about rob render? >> another troubled soul. he had a lot of problems, a lot of drugs. >> for zelnar, the case begins with the physical evidence, the blood at the crime scene. rob render's blood was there and his was the only blood ever found aside from brian's. >> we know that rob render and brian carrick had an altercation because both of their blood is right there at the crime scene. >> for her, the crime scene tells the story. look at these photo exhibits while brian's blood is in the hallway leading to the cooler, rob render's bloody fingerprint is on the cooler door handle. and inside the door, more of rob remembereder's blood. when police questioned rob, he insisted he wasn't there. >> i didn't do anything, i don't
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>> they asked rob, if he wasn't there, why was his blood? >> i cut my finger, who knows. maybe i bit my nails so bad because i do that it bled a little bit. >> there's no way that this amount of blood could have been left my rob render by biting his nails. you'd have to be a hemophiliac. you'd have to have a clotting disorder. >> and zr zelnar there is motive. brian turned in rob for stealing booze and ridiculed him at work for being weak. where was rob that night. >> zelnar contends that other employees say that rob was nowhere to be found for two hours but according to rob -- >> i was probably stoned that night. i'm sure. i was 17 years old. that's all i did. maybe i was stuck in the aisle somewhere. maybe i went on break. i'm telling you, i never left the store. >> but maybe he knows more than
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that's what police thought. he told a friend there was a fight in the cooler and that led them to the crime scene that's what led us to the cooler. and led us to the blood. >> nobody else said that, that there was a fight in the cooler. >> a detail zelnar believes only the killer would know. she says rob also tried to cover his tracks, mopping up the produce cooler that night and being on the scene the next morning when co-owner jerry ka sar ro noticed the pool of red-tinted water. >> what did you think that circular stain was from? >> at the time i thought it was hawaiian punch. i got a little hot under my collar and said you clean it up. it was rob render. >> and zelnar has an witness. an employee at the grocery store when brian disappeared who could rock the prosecution's case with explosive claims. >> what did the new witness have to say?
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render made a statement to him just a week before brian disappeared that he was very angry with brian and that he was going to jump him with a weapon. >> that matches with her version of events. zelnar says the fatal plow wasn't from a punch as shane lamb confessed but from a knife. >> tell me what you believe happened. >> i believe that render comes up behind him and cuts his throat and in the process cuts himself. and brian starts falling forward and render grabs the door. that's why his thumb print is on the door. then he pushes him like this. then he scrapes against the boxes. that's why the transferred blood is there, the attack is in the hallway. >> unfortunately for you the evidence points at you. almost all of it points at you, rob. >> police charge render with concealing brian's murder.
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case believing he wasn't involved. rob render never told his story in court. he overdosed on a cocktail of heroin and cocaine and died months before mario's second trial. rob's older sister passionately defends her older brother claiming he would never hurt anyone. >> the premise that my brother could have possibly killed brian over $30 or over him telling on him or anything is ridiculous to me. my brother having an explosive temper is ridiculous. >> and she accuses kathleen zelnar of scapegoating her dead brother. >> i asked him what he knew about it and he said he wasn't there. he didn't know what happened. >> i'm sure prosecutors say this is a classic case of blaming the dead guy. that's meaning ls. doesn't mean dead guys didn't commit murders. the only person that really
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render. the only person that owes money to brian carrick is render. the only person that's ever described wanting to jump him with a weapon is render. and the only person in that back hallway was render. >> there was one man we wanted to talk to. remember shane lamb, one of the stockboys along with rob render, mario ka sar ro and brian carrick. where did we find him? in jail on an unrelated charge. he sat down exclusively with 2020 with a stunning confession. >> i didn't have anything to do with this. he doesn't deserve to have in prison. >> it's safe to say he's serving 26 years in a maximum security prison because of your testimony. >> that's right. >> what you want to say about your testimony today in. >> all of it was false. every single thing, the state's attorney set it up. >> he's talking about assistant
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saying he forced him to place mario at the scene. shane says his back was against the wall. i was arrested for cocaine charges. my offer was 12 years. they said they would be indicted cooperate. >> here he is giving a statement but according to shane, what you don't see before this point, before the cameras roll, he makes allegations that combs sat him down for an hour without his lawyer telling him what to say point by point. >> on december 20th, 2002 mario karviar ro never called you to say come to the store and talk to brian carrick because he owes me money. >> never. >> you weren't his enforcer? >> no. >> you never punched him two or three times? >> never. >> mayor yo never said to you get out of here, i'll take care of this? >> never np never happened. >> explosive allegations, especially if true. but there's a problem.
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lying, along with a lengthy rap sheet. >> you're a five-time felon spend a lot of you life in and out of jail. can you understand that people say how can we believe him. >> they believed me enough to use my testimony to put him away but now they're going to say iep lying. >> last october in a statement prosecutor combs denied coaching shane lamb out of the presence of his lawyer calling it unworthy of belief, untrue and farfetched. >> i have nothing to gain. the only thing that could happen to me right now is they charge me for murder. i have everything to lose now. >> is that why you think people should believe me? >> 100% they should believe me. it's the truth. >> how does that change your defense of mario. >> it dramatically changes it. he was the only person responsible for mario being convicted. >> but for shane lamb one thing is clear. he says he's willing to spend the rest of his life in prison so that mario doesn't have to.
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26 years and i just feel like they let somebody make up testimony to get him locked up for 26 years and he's sitting there and he can't do anything about it. i'm not going to have that on my chest anymore. >> i'm happy that he's finally telling the truth. i wish he would have done it at the trial so that way i wouldn't have had to be subjected to this. this changes your whole life. >> but will that newest confession set mario free? the shocking words of the illinois appellate court decision. >> i think it says that the prosecutors overreached extraordinarily to get this conviction. it's a disgrace that they locked up mario casciaro for this really preposterous theory. >> stay with us. dependent study tested wireless performance across the country. verizon, won big with 153 state wins. at&t got 38, sprint got 2, and t-mobile got zero. verizon also won first in the us for data, call speed,
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mario is coming home. first? >> a packed bus makes its way to the state's largest maximum security prison. it's usually a one-way ride. but this particular bus isn't dropping off inmates. it's picking up one. >> we're so happy. and we couldn't wait to get there and get him out. >> we all can't stop smiling. >> mario casciaro is getting released. and this bus load of believers will escort him home. >> what was it like when you
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>> i just jumped with joy. >> really? >> he was running down the aisles at the store. he's coming home, he's coming home screaming down the aisles. >> you started celebrating early. >> and who could blame him. >> when mario is finally released after serving nearly four years, a father seems content to spend the next four years locked in an embrace with his son. the family had little hope of a heartfelt reunion like this until 2020 cast a national spotlight on mario's story last year. since then an illinois appellate court ruled on a brief presented by mario's crusading lawyer, kathleen zellner. it blasted the prosecution's case, calling their theory ir reasonable, improbable and unsatisfactory. even adding that rob render
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conviction. >> i think the decision is airtight. the court saw it just like we did. this is complete vindication that he is innocent. anyone who reads this opinion, that's what the court concluded. >> it was a slam dunk for mario's legal team. >> he's innocent. with this. they didn't get the right killer. and it's a kallos l failure on the part of the system. >> finally did it. it's all behind us now. let's look forward and let's move on. >> amen. >> for more than a decade he'd lived under a cloud of suspicions. his pleas of innocence ignored. mario couldn't wait to get off prison grounds. >> okay. >> go home. >> he invited our cameras to join him on his freedom ride home. >> there's nothing that compares
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it's just breathtaking. >> even mario's customary reserve gave way to chattiness as he spoke philosophically about his time in lockup. >> what was it like, spending almost three years in one of the roughest maximum security prisons in the country? >> i was lucky. they never got to imprison my mind. i just never allowed it to happen. my physical body was imprisoned but i never let my mind be there. >> he says he read a lot, kept to himself and stayed positive despite the odds. >> i talked to major, he had been here 20 years saying i'm only the third person he's ever seen leave. it's like winning the lottery. >> a salute. >> it was a night for celebration and a moment for the man of the hour to come to grips with the time lost. >> family members here you're seeing for the first time. >> absolutely.
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>> so what's the thing that makes you smile right now? >> you're looking at it. good times. >> family. >> yeah, family, love. >> goods times brain carrick's family was robbed of ever knowing. fiep happened? >> without a doubt. happened. >> what about the carrick family? we're not going to get him back. the only thing -- the only thing i can hope for is that i'll meet him again some place. >> william carrick died last year in december of 2014, before the court's reversal. other members of the carrick family declined our request for an interview. >> where did he go? people don't disappear. people just don't disappear. that's the part -- that's why we're talking about it.
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know. >> i think what the carrick family needs to do is study the opinion. because the person who committed this crime and the person who helped dispose of brian carrick's body have not been held accountable. and there is nothing that's been gained by having the wrong person locked up. they should push hard to have this case solved and to figure out exactly what happened. the forensic evidence is right there. it tells the story. >> that's my mom. she's the type of person that would hang a baby picture of me in my own room. see in i was cute then. i don't know what happened. >> i wanted to keep mario's room like if he was here because every time i clean the house, mario's room will be the first one i do. >> just having this much space, how about that. my whole cell was one third of
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and i had two adults living in there. so this is just -- for me now, i guess i appreciate it more. >> his incarceration inspiring a newfound appreciation for freedom. >> just being able to drive around feels so wonderful. i can go left, go right. i can do so many things i wasn't able to do three months ago and it feels wonderful. >> there was a trip back to val's grocery store with no shortage of familiar faces. >> hey. >> all righty. >> why running the family business was once seen as a given, mario has made a new career choice. >> i want to practice law to get in criminal defense because i believe my vantage point is extremely unique. >> the man who did not speak at his own trial decided to use his voice and his story to benefit others who have been wrongly convicted. and even as he looks forward, mario will not forget where he's
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these care packages provided by a local church for inmates across the state. >> it felt so humbling to be able to help people. >> in a family where food is love, mario's mom has outdone herself with good reason. >> we just haven't had a lot to celebrate. we haven't celebrated christmas anything. we didn't feel right celebrating without you. >> exactly. >> welcome home. mario's new year isn't completely carefree. the illinois state's attorney michael combs still believes he's guilty. >> and he tells us he's going to
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