>> announcer: from nbc news, this is "today" with kathie lee gifford and hoda kotb, live from studio 1a in rockefeller plaza. welcome to my house >> look who is in my house today. it's wednesday, winesday wednesday, 30th of march. >> look at that. oh, that's disturbing. >> al roker. >> my head on top of kathie lee's body, wow. >> by the way, that's classic roker.

>> we know that roker at heart is a cartoonist. you see, deep down in your soul, that's what you should have always been. >> it's what i always wanted to be. >> charles schultz is one of your all-time heros. >> it is. >> great show. we have tracee ellis ross. she's in "blackish." she has that project, what is it called, a great organization. >> of course, the daughter happens to be the daughter of diana ross. >> i've been watching the show "billions" lately. >> everybody is talking about this show. great cast. >> we have one of the actresses. paul gee iamatti is in it. >> she was in "mad men." terrific there. >> we'll talk to her. if you want to sell your home or fix it up, we'll give you help. >> the "listed sisters."

>> if they're not, they look a lot of like. >> then we'll have music. singer/songwriter matt simons will sing for us later. >> cool. last time we worked together solo, it was hosting the rose parade. >> you're right. that was our last one. >> memorable because you didn't remember. >> we did. >> that's right. >> we sat here together before, too. >> it's been a while. >> when we did, people start -- there were rumors flying. >> we had people -- after the rose parade, they were wondering were we married to each other. >> that's how we talked, like a married couple. >> i don't know if that's good or bad. i think it's good. >> how about words of wisdom? >> okay. >> this is on wednesdays. close your eyes. in the end, you always go back to the people that were there -- >> i thought we were closing our eyes. >> i have to read it. in the end, you always go back to the people that were there in the beginning.

what the quote was from? >> wow, if we're doing quotes like that, how about, i am what i am? ah-ha. >> on wednesdays, al, we have a wine bot. >> really? >> you're drinking water. >> i'm not a wine drinker. >> what do you like? >> in the summer, barbecuing -- >> sorry. one of the things that interrupts our flow. go on. in the summer -- >> in the summer, i do grilling. i like a nice, fruity rosa. that's it. >> you're not a big drinker. >> i did discover the begin and tonic. >> did you love? >> i like it. i stretched the summer out a bit. >> i like. in the morning sometimes, i'm in

say, oh, my god, i have a great song you have to hear. sometimes i do the same for al. we both love music. >> yes. it's usually upbeat music. >> right. what were they saying about sad music today? >> new research says sad music helps you handle grief more effectively than happy music, which i hear sad music and i'll relate it to something sad. it makes me sadder. >> yeah, yeah. >> i like happy music. i want up. >> you don't want to be brought down. >> no. >> what song -- we'll do our wine bot. al picked a song, and i picked a song, both happy songs. >> yes. >> when people like the song they hear, they're going to tweet at us. either team hoda or team al. >> okay. >> we're going to see whose wineglass fills up the most. >> your song first? play you a song, make me want to roll my window down.

florida-georgia line. >> windows down, hair is blowing. >> my hair isn't blowing. i not happening, no matter how fast you're going. >> "cruise" is mine. >> mine goes back to the '70s in college, elton john. >> i do love this one, "philadelphia freedom." i'm riding down the road. go to twitter. either #team al or #team hoda. go to klg and -- is that what you do? >> i just stopped in. >> where do you do it? >> on twitter. look what's happening already. >> look at that. >> as they #team al -- >> like milking a cow. we've all had that experience. >> #team hoda. mine was "cruise." al's was "philadelphia freedom." >> bizarre. >> isn't that weird? we're going to watch those

we'll see whose -- >> this is fascinating television. >> look what's happening. did you see? remember, "cruise" or "philadelphia freedom." >> "philadelphia freedom." >> or "cruise." all right. can i ask you a question? >> sure you can. it's your show. >> what does al roker do on a saturday morning? you wake up. you've been busy all week. >> right. >> here at the crack of dawn, running around. what do you do when you wake up on saturday morning and you have no obligations? pretend. what is it like at the roker house? >> make breakfast for the kids. mostly nic. i'm trying to convince my teenage girl to eat breakfast. protein. nic, doesn't matter how much is on the plate, it disappears. >> what do you cook? >> pancakes, eggs and bacon. >> what is deborah doing? >> off running, being healthy, you know.

>> i'll be right behind you. >> i'll be there. >> then what? >> some activity. nic may have something. leila is doing tutoring stuff, getting ready for the acts. i'm fascinated by the wine thing. >> at what point do you stop? >> we don't. we have more. they'll keep going. they'll replace the glasses when they get too -- i think you're winning by a little now. >> "philadelphia freedom." a lot of our viewers are kids of the '70s. >> and kids like country music, especially "cruise." >> they grew up with elton. >> they also like "cruise." play you a song, make me want to roll my windows down and cruise >> that's the one. >> they like to be patriotic and listening to "philadelphia freedom." shine on me cause i love ya

>> through the eyes of the one left behind. >> #team al and #team hoda. okay, let's guess what these are. they came from william sonoma, i think. we're going to try to understand. the cards say what they are. >> start here? chicken breast -- or meat tenderizer. >> reversible meat tenderizer. >> i guess you can untenderize it. >> what the heck -- >> cherry pip er cker. >> what? no, it's not. >> i'm just guessing. >> olive -- >> could be. >> cherry and olive picker. >> both right. >> what is that? >> pineapple core. >> how did you know that? >> i've got one. >> how do you do it? >> put this in. cut the top off and twist it down and boom.

it is a stainless steel apple slicer and core. what is this thing? >> it's a mini hannibal lecter mask. i'm not sure what that is. >> strainer. what else? >> some sort soft strainer. >> let's see what it is. >> avocado cuber. >> wow. >> man, you have too much stuff. >> what's the last one? >> again, an apple core. i'm not sure. >> jalapeno core. >> look at that. >> oh, my gosh! al is winning. come on, people. >> everybody loves "philadelphia freedom." philadelphia freedom, shine on me >> tracee ross likes "philadelphia freedom." raise the roof, tracee. >> cray tracee ellis ross. >> that's my pick. >> the other is a little

>> i don't remember that song. make me want to roll my windows down and cruise >> okay. >> i got to say -- philadelphia freedom >> i like that one. just being honest. sorry. >> give a little philly. shine on me cause i love ya shine the light >> oh, no, no, wait a minute. left behind is this a funky dance party? shine the light >> wait a minute! shine the light philadelphia freedom love, love, love >> ready? yes, i do >> tracee ellis ross here to el us why black girls rock to " "philadelphia freedom >> do you have to ask after seeing this?

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by the way, i want to say, your magic worked. your funky dance party worked. before we interview tracee ellis ross, take one shot. >> look at the wine bot. >> this is a blow out. >> they're out of white wine. >> no grapes left in the world. because of tracy el y tracee ellis ross and al roker together. >> helps to have the off the shoulder thing. >> and this. >> oh, my gosh. >> changes everything. >> i'll just watch you do this. >> that's right. you wonder why black girls rock, here you go. >> tracee ellis ross, the daughter of diana ross, stars as joan carol clayton on "girlfriends," which a lot of us miss. >> still young and cute. since then, she's been in her

the hit comedy series "blackish." check it out. >> i'm not clueless here. the twins are still so little. i'm not ready for them to think and see the world the way you do. come on, jack thinks when you swallow gum, it grows a gum tree in your stomach. >> gum tree. >> yeah. >> kids. but it does take seven years for it to digest, right? >> oh, my god. >> love this show. >> isn't it a good one? >> i mean, because -- here's this great family that addresses issues. >> yeah. >> but yet, doesn't hit you over the head with it. >> yeah, you noy, the know, the writing is fantastic. in essence, at the core, we are a multi-generational, character-driven comedy. the focus isn't on the issues. it's a family living in current times. these are thins we run into. as a result, i don't feel it's heavy handed. the focus, because it's

it's all about sort of how this family is dealing with what's happening in the world. >> yeah. >> and how you raise kids in this day and age. >> no easy thing. >> yeah, and it's an ever changing world. all these things are coming for all of us. how to deal with the "n" word, the sex talk, all these things you have to deal with with your kids. i know you're currently dealing with. >> when you were young and growing up, obviously you're super smart and could have done a lot of things. was show business always the road you wanted to go down, or something else you would have liked? >> i went into fashion for a while and thought that was where i wanted to go. i could have gone the therapist/teacher route easily. that's an area i was drawn to. as i get older and look back, i really think i'm a performer before i'm an actor. i did "lip sync" battle recently. >> did you love it? >> it sounds obvious -- >> give it. >> -- but i really enjoy being on a stage with a mic. just telling you. >> seriously? >> it was like i was born to do it.

>> i did nicki minaj "super bass," and pat benatar's "love is a battlefield." i did choreography. >> who were you against? >> anthony anderson. he's really talented. >> black girls rock, of course. >> well -- >> you knew this. it's the tenth anniversary. sixth year of your involvement. >> extraordinary organization that does more than this award show. it's an opportunity for everyone to sort of see black women in her fullness. and our culture doesn't always get to see the fullness of that. so this is an award show that gives the younger generation an opportunity to see us in all our glory. and we have amazing honoree se s this year. the women who created the black lives matter hashtag.

>> gladis is going to be there? >> you sounded like two old jewish ladies from brooklyn. gladis is going to be there. fantastic. it's going to be great. >> the show is called "black girls rock." people will want to see it. have some coffee, watch the show. maybe have a little cheesecake. see rihanna. talk about how the black lives matter. it'll be a perfect day. >> it'll be good. >> what are you going to want to see? >> oh, i'm spelling here. i'm spritzing. >> that's the show you want to watch. >> "black girls rock" tuesday night, bet. that's right. >> we love you. coming up, why is everyone talking about showtime's "billions." philadelphia freedom >> again with the song?

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don't know. no one knows. where he can make your loss bigger than his loss. >> maggie siff is here. hey, maggie. >> hello. >> i got hooked on "billions." people were buzzing and i had to watch. innocently turning on showtime. i click it on, and the opening scene is of this funky, dominatrix weird thing with you and paul giamatti. i had to pause for a second. describe the relationship you have with your husband. >> right. so they don't have a vanilla relationship, as it were. they have a submissive, dominant relationship. what i really appreciated about it in the pilot is like you see this politician who is with a dominatrix and think it's some madame but it's his wife. it's within the contract of their marriage. >> normal. >> exactly, like anything else. >> for folks who haven't seen

give us a thumbnail sketch if you can. >> sure. follows two powerful men. damian lewis, hedge fund kingpin, and paul giamatti, a u.s. district attorney. he's going after the hedge fund kingpin for insider trading. and i'm sort of caught in the middle. i'm married for one, and i work for the other. >> wow. >> it's really sort of a forensic look at the intricacies of the two different worlds. >> did you expect this to get such great reviews and have great ratings and stuff? when i first saw it, i said, it looks like a winner. the dominatrix part is ten seconds of it. after that, it's all about intrigue and wall street and money and, you know, greed and all those things. >> yeah. >> did you think it was going to work right away? >> the pilot script was brilliant, and i knew they had paul and damian attached, who are brilliant. i had a lot of excitement and investment initially. when i saw how it was put

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doctor, doctor winesday wednesday and we're ready for our weekly trivia game, who knew. today is national doctor's day. we're about to test your knowledge of tv movie doctors. al roker is filling in for kathie lee. he's across the street at the nbc news studio, 30 rock there. ready to hand out an umbrella and 100 $100 to anyone who gets the questions right. and signed books to those who don't. >> that's right. >> here to help me out is senior editor at "entertainment weekly." hi, girl. >> hi. >> ready to play? >> so ready to talk about doctors. >> al?

>> patty neil. >> first contestant. finish the lyric to this 1979 song by robert palmer. doctor, doctor, give me the news, i got a bad case of loving you [ applause ] >> limited edition "today" show -- >> umbrella and $100. she was definitely in key. >> she was into it. i love it. robert palmer's other famous song, "addicted to love," also compares his love to a medical case. >> what's that about? >> seems he has a thing for doctors. >> al, go ahead. >> who is the next contestant? >> karla. >> where are you from? >> baltimore, maryland. >> ever have the crab cake? >> love it. >> what oscar winning actor got his start playing a doctor on the 1980s medical drama "st. elsewhere," robbins, kevin spacey, denzel washington?

>> did you tell her? >> i was sharing. >> you got it right, baby. >> everyone is doing well so far. >> $100. >> i love it. other household names got their start on "st. elsewhere," including howie manziel and mark harmon. >> kidding? >> helen hunt. >> taylor swift named a cat after which -- first, what is your name? >> jenna. >> i was fascinated by this. where are you from? >> minnesota. >> okay. make some lemon bars? >> no. >> okay. taylor swift named one of her cats after a famous tv doctor. dr. abby lockhart. dr. meredith grey. or dr. quinn. >> meredith grey. >> you're correct. >> smart audience we have here today. >> really smart one.

>> taylor likes naming her cats after tv characters. she has a cat named after the character on "svu," olivia benson. >> aren't they in her squad? >> they're in the taylor squad. >> will you be in it soon? >> nobody asked me. >> you should be in taylor's squad. what's your name, bud? >> marvin. >> where are you from? >> columbus, ohio. dublin medical clinic. >> keeping with the medical theme. >> i am a doctor. >> maybe we should disqualify you. >> they picked me because i was a doctor. >> was george clooney's -- what was george clooney's character's name on the nbc drama "er"? you already know? >> he made one want to be a doctor. >> really? >> dr. doug ross. >> running the table here. >> wait a minute, first of all, everybody won with this and, two, george clooney made him want to become a doctor.

>> the funny thing is, this wasn't the first show named "er" that he was on. there was a short-lived cbs comedy called "er" that george clooney was also on. >> didn't know it. time for one more, al. >> what's your name, sir? >> tim thornton. >> who is this beautiful lady? >> daughter alisa. >> your lovely wife? >> it is, leah. >> thank goodness. that could have turned out badly. which of the following actors did not play a doctor on a daytime drama? springfield, david hasselhoff or ray? >> you can ask her. >> a, b or c? >> i'm guessing a. >> say c. >> c. >> all right! >> ray liotta. we'll give you an umbrella, and come over here, just so i can give you one more thing. here's my book i wrote with my wife, deborah roberts. i want to get that plug in.

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>> announcer: the citi concert series on "today" is proudly presented to you by citi. american singer/songwriter matt simons gained international fame when his single "with you" became the theme song for a dutch soap opera. >> latest single "catch and release" topped the spotify charts in ten countries. matt simons is back at home to sing a fun new version of his hit song off his cd. welcome. >> thank you for having me. >> what was it like the first time you hear your song on the radio? >> i mean, it's an amazing feeling.

you dream about it, but you don't think it's ever going to happen. >> it's charting all over europe, and it's about to chart in the united states. you're going to play for us, this song right now, right? >> yeah. >> matt simons. there's a place i go to where no one knows me it's not lonely it's a necessary thing it's a place i made up find out what i'm made of the nights i've stayed up counting stars and fighting sleep let it wash over me i'm ready to lose my feet take me off to the place where one reveals life's mystery steady on down the line

take it all in and wake up that small part of me day to day i'm blind to see and find how far to go everybody got their reason everybody got their way we're just catching and releasing what builds up throughout the day it gets into your body it flows right through your blood we can tell each other secrets and remember how to love there's a place i'm going no one knows me

let it out and let it in it can be terrifying to be slowly dying also clarifying we end where we begin so let it wash over me i'm ready to lose my feet you take me off to the place where one reveals life's mystery steady on down the line lose every sense of time take it all in and wake up that small part of me day to day i'm blind to see and find how far to go everybody got their reason everybody got their way we're just catching and releasing what builds up throughout the day it gets into your body it flows right through your blood we can tell each other secrets

da da da dum da da da dum dum >> thank you. [ applause ] >> wow. >> that was great. >> new happy song. i like that. >> that was awesome. thank you so much. "catch and release," download it now. we'll be back with more of "today" on nbc. that was beautiful.

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