[ cheers and applause ] ?? >> announcer: from 30 rockefeller plaza in new york, it's "late night with seth meyers." tonight henry wingler, from mr. robot, actress, grace gummer. music from jon bellion. featuring the 8g band with john bruster. ?? [ cheers and applause ] ladies and gentlemen, seth meyers. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: good evening. i'm seth meyers. this is "late night." how is everybody doing tonight? [ cheers and applause ] it is so good to be back. let's get to the news. the olympics wrapped up over the weekend with the united states coming out on top in all medal counts. the u.s. brought home 46 gold

idiots. [ laughter and applause ] speedo has ended its sponsorship deal with ryan lochte. following the mission that he lied about being robbed at gunpoint. because you know speedo doesn't want to be involved with anyone who tries to hide stuff. [ light laughter ] that's what you call off brand. that's right. speedo has revoked their sponsorship of swimmer ryan lochte, and according to him, they did it at gunpoint. [ light laughter ] we missed the olympics because we were on hiatus. but we do want to get you caught up on everything that happened. so, here with an olympic wrap-up is one of our writers amber russin in a segment we call, "amber says what." ??

the 2016 olympics were out of control. first of all, the flag bearer from tonga had everybody, like, what? [ light laughter ] then gabby douglas didn't put her hand on her heart during the national anthem and people were, like, what? and then this one chinese swimmer fu yuanhui told reporters that she had her period, and everyone was talking about her like w-w-w-what? [ light laughter ] but i was, like, what? usain bolt was, like, what? and i was all, like, what? everyone was, like, wha -- what? the biggest news from the olympics has to be ryan lochte. ryan lochte was, like, we were held up, and everyone was, like, what? then he said they put a gun to my head, but i wouldn't get down, and everyone was, like, what? [ light laughter ] and when brazilian authorities

like, k. then video surfaced proving that he lied, and i was, like, what? [ light laughter ] and people were, like, ryan, you cannot lie like that, and he was, like, what? [ light laughter ] and that's the olympics. this has been "amber says what?" ?? [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: thank you, amber. former new york city mayor, rudy giuliani, has begun repeatedly suggesting th serious mental illness. meanwhile, donald trump isn't. [ light laughter ] [ cheers ] welcome back, i missed you, bro. donald trump's new campaign manager, kellyanne conway, yesterday told interviewers that she does not believe trump hurls personal insults. she said, trump, you tell them,

when asked what would happen if donad trump loses the election, one ally to the trump campaign said they can't picture trump giving a concession speech. "there's going to be concessions," said chris christie? did you pick vice president yet? president obama and the first family returned sunday from their summer vacation in martha's vineyard only to find [ light laughter ] hillary clinton's campaign manager in a new interview accused donald trump of being a puppet for the kremlin. that's crazy. puppets are usually unnaturally colored and have really crazy hair. oh, my god. [ laughter and applause ] bill clinton last week turned

while his appreciation for balloons turned 7. [ light laughter ] north korea -- this is true. north korea has launched a new on demand streaming service called "man bang" which will allow citizens to binge watch films about kim jong un. and if you think the name implies something bad, it's worse than you think. [ light laughter ] last week great britain's, charlotte dujardin won the gold medal for individual dressage. oh, she did? said her horse that can dance. [ light laughter ] oh, great job. congratulations. [ laughter ] police in australia are searching for a group of men seen releasing live crocodiles

the crocodiles. [ light laughter ] and, finally, a man in texas last week road his horse into a taco bell restaurant, but, weirdly, he left alone. [ audience ohs ] we have a great show for you tonight. [ cheers and applause ] this is very exciting. this guy is one of my all-time favorites. he is one of the "better late than never." the wonderful, the legend, henry winkler, is here tonight. [ cheers and applause ] can't wait to talk to henry. she's a fantastic actress starring in usa's "mr. robot," this summer, grace gummer, is here tonight. [ cheers and applause ] and we will have fantastic music from singer/songwriter jon bellion. i'm looking forward to that. [ cheers and applause ] but before we get to all that, the 2016 campaign has settled

donald trump spends weeks saying inflammatory things to drive his poll numbers down, and then for a few days he acts relatively normal, and the media thinks he is ready to get serious. well, it's happening again. weven as trump surrounds himself with people who feed his worst instincts. for more on this it's time for "a closer look." ?? [ cheers and applause ] so we've been off the past few weeks because of the olympics and over the course of just those two weeks, donald trump suggested that second amendment people could stop president obama founded isis, and suggested repeatedly that the election could be rigged against him. but then, last week trump shocked everyone, by actually seeming to express remorse. >> sometimes, in the heat of debate and speaking on a multitude of issues you don't choose the right words or you say the wrong thing. i have done that.

and, believe it or not, i regret it. >> seth: it's hard to apologize when the crowd gives you a five second applause break for admitting you say the wrong thing. also, as a general rule, when someone says believe it or not, put your money on not. jasper, how come we found you in the swamp with your pants down. believe it or not, it was aliens. [ light laughter ] now, trump didn't specify what he regretted but his hollow apology didn't stop republicans like gop chairman, reince priebus, from giving him glowing reviews. >> i think he's had a great week. i think he's been on message. he's shown maturity as a candidate. >> she: that's how low the bar is for trump right now. [ light laughter ] republicans are complimenting him for being mature. they talk about their nominee the way people talk about a 5-year-old wearing a suit at a wedding.

[ light laughter ] and it wasn't just republicans. the media once again indulged in one of its favorite obsessions. breathlessly speculating about whether trump was finally changing his tone and pivoting to the general election. >> is this the pivot that republicans have been hoping for? >> is this, in fact, the new pivot? >> is this a pivot? >> the pivot? >> pivot? >> pivot. >> pivot. >> pivot. >> pivot? >> pivot. >> pivot. >> pivot. [ laughter and applause ] >> seth: and i never thought i would say this, but i think chandler bing speaks for all of us. >> shut up. >> shut up. >> shut up! [ laughter and applause ] >> that's the biggest sign -- the biggest sign that this pivot is not coming as the latest group of people trump surrounded himself with, a new inner circle comprised of some of the most controversial figures in conservative media. >> the major shake-up in the trump campaign, the surprising move by trump naming steve bannon, stepping down as

trump's campaign. bannon has a reputation of being, to say the least, a no holds barred, win at all cost, street fighter. >> as the new york times noted, bannon is quote, "a purveyor of scorched earth right-wing media, who dwells in the darker corners of american politics." and mr. trump reportedly is welcoming the debate advice of roger ailes, the recently deposed chairman of fox news. >> the shake up puts trump at the center of a circle of advisers. bannon, roger stone, and newly ousted fox news chief roger ailes, all known for their no holds bars tactic. >> seth: no holds barred, i'm sorry, was trump barring any holds before this? so trump got rid of his old campaign chairman who was trying to get him to tone down his rhetoric and he hired people that wanted him to be even more controversial. trump is like an alcoholic that fires his doctor and starts getting medical advice from his bartender. but some trump critics think

>> charlie sykes, wisconsin's radio host, you know, revered among a lot of republicans said this, "trump's campaign has now entered the hospice phase. he knows he is dying and wants to surround himself with his loved ones." [ light laughter ] >> although, let's be honest, if trump were dying, i don't think he would go into hospice care. i think he would deny he is dying, blame the media for saying he was dying, accuse obama of poisoning him, and then claim i'm the best at dying. no one is better than me at dying. everyone says so. [ laughter and applause ] everyone says so. but i actually think this new trump inner circle makes perfect sense. trump is surrounding himself with the very people who created the right wing media bubble. a bubble built on paranoia, conspiracy theories, and white identity politics, which allowed trump to thrive in the first place. let's first take bannon, whose website, breitbart news whose run headlines, among other things, accusing president obama of "shedding phony fascist tears" and calling a

the title of an awesome tv show. [ light laughter ] rostine, give me your gun and your yamaka. these portions aren't big enough for the both of us. [ light laughter ] it's a .357 magnum, but for you .335. [ light laughter ] we spent a lot of time on this today. and then there is this classic breitbart headline "birth control makes women unattractive and crazy," and if anyone should be the judge of who is unattractive and crazy, it's pinup model steve bannon. he looks like jabba the hutt's deadbeat son. then there's former fox news chairman and current jabba the hutt, roger ailes, who was forced out after an alleged pattern of sexual harassment is reportedly advising trump. ailes essentially shaped the modern conservative movement. so, it's no surprise that trump is now using many of ailes' tactics. just look at how trump and his

recent polls showing him way behind hillary clinton. first, they try to just ignore the polls, like bill mitchell, the right wing radio host and trump supporter who tweeted "imagine polls don't exist. show me evidence hillary is winning." according to bill mitchell, trump is winning. ? as long as we have our imagination ? [ applause ] >> seth: and also, thank god -- thank god we have polls. if eating crickets in a rickshaw. then there was trump lawyer michael cohen who had, let's say, the least convincing response to trump's dip in the polls, questioning the source as he did on cnn last week. >> you say it's not a shake-up, but you guys are down, and it is it makes sense -- >> says who? says who? >> polls, most of them. all of them.

>> polls. i just told you. i answered your question. >> okay, which polls? >> all of them. >> and your question is? >> seth: i don't know. i think i'd be pretty concerned if that was my lawyer. we find the defendant guilty. says who? [ light laughter ] the jurors. which ones? all of them. but says who isn't just a dumb trump supporter's response to a few polls. it's the right's reaction to everything from climate change to unemployment numbers to health care. says who, is the product of decades of work by ailes and others to dismiss facts that don't align with their world view, and now it's members of the alt right conservative media advising trump, they've latched on to yet another conspiracy theory. this time requesting hillary clinton's physical health. despite zero evidence and repeated assurances from her doctor that she's fit to serve as president. trump has been subtly questioning her physical well-being. for example, by complaining that sometimes hillary, brace yourselves, goes to sleep.

i think she goes home. she goes to sleep. you do -- you follow her, just follow where she goes, and, you know, she'll see -- she'll do and event. she'll make a short speech off a teleprompter and then she goes home and goes to sleep. i tell you, she is dangerous. [ light laughter ] >> that's right. hillary clinton sleeps at night, and she sleeps great. you know why? because she's seeing the polls. all of them. [ laughter and applause ] sleep. dangerous is staying up until 4:00 a.m. and hate tweeting "morning joe." and while some in the gop continue to distance themselves from trump, others are doubling down in their support, like rudy giuliani who picked up on the hillary health conspiracy theory yesterday on fox news. >> she has an entire media empire that constantly demonizes donald trump, fails to point out

online. >> wait which -- >> all you got to do -- >> her campaign -- people are defending saying there's nothing factual to the claims about her health and that is speculation at best. >> go online and put down hillary clinton's illness and take a look at the videos for yourself. >> seth: if you go online and put down rudy giuliani illness, you get this. >> america, what happened to it? >> all people from the top to the bottom, from the middle, to the sides, are we crazy? >> seth: well, you're crazy. from the top to the bottom, middle, sides. [ light laughter ] it all seems to suggest the trump pivot, the media is hungry for may never actually happen. in fact, someone who seems ready to admit trump might never change is his own running mate mike pence. trump recently claimed that in four years he would win 95% of

amusement when he heard that comment. >> donald trump telling the african-american community i am the guy for you, and he says by 2020 he is going to have 95% of the african-american support. [ laughter ] why are you laughing? >> well that's donald trump. >> also, if i'm being honest, i'm also laughing because i can't believe i agreed to do this. but don't worry, there's a new campaign team and conspiracy th don't work, trump has a backup plan. just guilt people into voting for him. >> you better elect me, folks. i'll never speak to you again. [ cheers and applause ] can you imagine, can you imagine how badly i'll feel, if i spent all of that money, all of this energy, all of this time and lost?

chandler bing -- >> shut up, shut up, shut up! >> seth: this has been "a closer look." ?? [ cheers and applause ] we'll be right back with henry winkler, everybody. [ cheers and applause ]

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?? [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back, everybody. please give it up for the 8g band right over there. [ cheers and applause ] also, i'm so excited. joining us this week on drums, he is a member of indy rock legend "super chunk" as well as one of my favorite bands, "the mountain goats." jon wurster is here. [ cheers and applause ] >> hi, seth. >> seth: you can catch out jon bob mould's latest release, "patch the sky," as well as on tour with bob beginning so excited for the week. [ cheers and applause ] >> thank you. >> seth: so excited for this, too. our first guest tonight, golden globe winning actor you know best from his iconic portrayal of the fonz on "happy days." he has appeared on shows like "arrested development" and "royal pains." starting tomorrow, you can see him on nbc's reality travel series "better late than never." let's take a look. >> so you have one of these? that is not bad. i don't know what that is. >> that is really good. >> this is good. >> these are delicious.

>> no. >> the first one you gave me was the best one. >> yeah, right here. >> that is not bad. >> yeah. >> i don't know what that is, but it's good. that's good. >> hey, what's this one? >> that's real good. try that one. >> i can't get through it. >> well, chew it. >> i'm trying. >> ma'am, can i ask you a question? what is that? [ inaudible ] [ laughter ] >> seth: please welcome to the show henry winkler. [ cheers and applause ] how are you? >> i am so excited. i'm here to promote, you know "better late than never," but i'm also trying out for "the renegade jew." >> seth: oh, you are? [ laughter ] it's a fantastic show. i think the part is great for you. >> i only have one line. >> seth: okay. >> give me back my matza. [ laughter ] >> seth: i think we can get you

>> seth: well, it's funny you mentioned that, that you are auditioning for "the renegade jew." because i want to talk -- >> yes. >> seth: and i want to talk to you about your new show. >> yes. >> seth: but, "happy days." >> yes. >> seth: the great gary marshall who created the show -- a dear friend of yours. >> yes. not only that, but also my mentor, and my teacher. and very generous soul. he was an enormous force in my life. >> seth: and you never -- the first time you met him was when you auditioned for that show? >> yes, that is true. >> seth: and i heard in an interview with him, recently -- this year. know, we wanted a big italian guy from the bronx. >> yes he did. >> seth: and he got a jewish guy from long island. >> he got a very short jewish guy, and that's the reason i went to asia because i know good asian food. >> seth: okay, yeah. there you go. [ light laughter ] >> chinese food on a sunday night, i'm very good. [ laughter ] >> seth: and this is -- you know, obviously this is a role, now, when you go on the trip, do people recognize you from fonzie? >> they did, they -- oh, well, i'm with george foreman. >> seth: yeah. >> everybody knows the champ.

the world. >> seth: okay. [ laughter ] >> and will tell you at any moment -- >> seth: okay. >> every fact. >> seth: okay. >> and -- >> seth: does that get wearisome, or do you enjoy the facts from bill shatner? >> no, no, no. we stopped paying attention after a while. >> seth: oh, that's great. [ laughter ] >> but he is an adorable guy. >> seth: yeah. >> he really is. he is 85 years old. we went to the mount fuji. you have to walk up 600 steps to get a great view. i know friends in l.a. who are not good at 12 steps. [ laughter ] >> seth: do they get through any of them or just bail right away? >> i think it's like the first one. close that book. >> seth: right. >> yeah. but we just had a great -- >> seth: and terry bradshaw as well? >> terry bradshaw. terry bradshaw is a walking heart. >> seth: oh, really? >> he truly is. >> seth: that's good to hear. >> he is a big oklahoman. he is funny. and then he tells a story. we're sitting at a table in a restaurant, and he starts to

down to win the super bowl. he won four. >> seth: yeah. >> and all of a sudden this big gregarious oklahoman becomes the general right in front of your eyes. it was really an incredible trip. >> seth: well this is -- i mean again, it's quite a show because you go -- these four icons kind of go on this trip together. >> right. >> seth: but despite how impressive they are, it seems like -- and tell me if i'm wrong, the most impressive -- i guess it's not a person, but you met an elephant that you connected with. >> i did. think proves my point. that is a connection. [ laughter ] now -- >> that's sugar cane, and sugar cane gave me a kiss. >> seth: that's great. now, had you met an elephant this -- >> not like this. and i want to tell you everything that you hear about elephants, everything about their empathy and emotionality is absolutely true. it is palpable. i looked the elephant in the eye. this elephant looked me in the eye. and he only speaks thai. >> seth: oh, right. [ laughter ] >> right. >> seth: you have to do it with

>> didn't understand "the renegade jew" i'll tell ya. [ light laughter ] and i started to weep. >> seth: really? >> i started to cry. because you just feel it come off the elephant. the emotion comes off like a river. >> seth: do you think after you left do you think that guy was a little emotional? >> he wrote me. >> seth: oh, he did? he wrote you. >> yeah. >> seth: there you go. [ light laughter ] >> i got mad. >> seth: not, you're not -- you don't love all animals, though. >> i don't. >> seth: there you are. you met a snake. >> okay, i was -- i was -- >> seth: explain first what was happening. >> we're in hong kong. >> and we're in a hole in the wall, a restaurant. >> seth: okay. >> and they serve cow penis soup. >> seth: oh, great. >> i don't suggest that. >> seth: okay. gotcha. [ laughter ] >> they say it's good for your circulation. >> seth: okay, gotcha. >> i say not in my mouth. >> seth: okay, gotcha. [ laughter ] >> okay, okay. [ applause ] >> seth: no, exactly. >> okay. but the woman who runs the restaurant is a snake lady.

running in the street slithering in the streets, they call this woman. she comes and makes a meal out of it. >> seth: oh, wow. >> she brought me a cobra. and i thought, okay, i'm here. i am strong. i'm positive. i held this cobra. all of a sudden it got straight and it turned around and faced me, and i ran out of that establishment like a 9-year-old girl. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] your eye contact with the snake does not go as well as with the elephant, because that is -- >> i said it's turning around. it's turning around. they said, it's okay. it's okay. [ laughter ] i said not with me. [ light laughter ] >> seth: there are certain people that are good with snakes. of course, the snake lady would say it's fine. >> yeah, i'm good with a garter snake. >> seth: yeah, a little one. >> yeah. >> seth: this is impressive to me as well. obviously, you have this acting career. this incredible acting career, but you are also an author. you've written over 30 children's books. >> right.

>> yes, these are called "here's hank," because it's in the second grade. these are beginning readers. it uses a font that's never been used. >> seth: yeah, i was looking at it early. and so, how did you find -- this font is helpful for -- >> for anybody, actually. >> seth: yup. >> and it just makes it easier to track the words across the page. developed by a dad in holland for his children who are also dyslexic. >> seth: you have grandkids now? >> i do. >> seth: and they -- >> seth: have they read it? >> one -- i got a picture. my daughter sent me a picture of her husband reading my 4-year-old grandson this very book at bedtime. i was speechless. i didn't know what to say. there he was reading a book i wrote. i was told i would never achieve. unbelievable. >> seth: that's fantastic. [ applause ] >> yeah.

your homes and read my book. [ laughter ] [ applause ] >> seth: if you don't want that, he needs your permission to come in. [ light laughter ] now, you mentioned dyslexia, and you suffer from dyslexia. >> no, you never get over it. >> seth: right. >> you just learn to negotiate it. >> seth: and i have to imagine over a career of auditioning -- >> can i say one thing? >> seth: please. >> that opening bit using one word -- >> seth: what? >> yes, how great was that? [ light laughter ] >> seth: she's the best, right? [ cheers and applause ] >> what? okay. i'm back. >> seth: well, i can only say -- >> i'm back. >> seth: if given a chance my writing staff will use as few words as possible. [ light laughter ] so, so hank said that -- >> yes. >> seth: he mentioned -- so, you auditioned -- you have a career of auditioning. you mentioned you never get over dyslexia. >> yes. >> seth: that must have made it difficult, especially the stuff you just get. >> well, you know what i would do? i would memorize a scene that i can't read off the page, and i would read -- i would memorize it as much as i could and make

and then the director or the producer would say, you're not reading what's on the page. you're not reading what's written. i said because i'm giving you the essence. [ laughter ] now, if i get, it i'll memorize it completely, but right now i'm just giving you a flavor. >> seth: that's great. and that worked? >> it worked. >> seth: when you went to yale drama school. >> i did. >> seth: prestigious school. >> yes. >> seth: you auditioned with a shakespeare monologue. >> i made it up. >> seth: you made up. [ laughter ] >> i made it up. i'm not kidding. it was launce and the dog. >> seth: okay. >> i got through one sentence. i went blank. and i talked about launce and his dog. >> seth: and it worked. >> i have a dog. >> seth: there you go. >> i thought, he felt the same way i did. [ laughter ] >> seth: well, obviously, it paid off. thank you so much for being here. it's truly -- [ cheers and applause ] >> i'm so happy to be here. >> seth: an honor and a pleasure to have you here. >> thank you. >> seth: henry winkler, everybody. "better late than never" premiers tomorrow night at 10:00 pm on nbc. and get these for your kids. we'll be right back with grace gummer. ?? [ cheers and applause ]

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>> seth: our next guest is a talented actress who you know from the shows like "the newsroom" and "american horror story." she is currently starring on season two of "mr. robot," which airs wednesdays at 10:00 p.m. on usa. let's take a look. >> i'll make this quick. i'm agent dipierro, fbi, cyber-crime division. we co-opted one of your floors. i was heading to my station when i see you. and it wasn't an "oops, wrong floor" kind of drop in. from w now this is nothing official, so don't worry. but, we've had to ask what were you doing on a restricted floor? ?? >> making plans. with agent thomas. we were trying to decide drinks tomorrow or lunch today. >> where did you land? >> seth: please welcome to the show, grace gummer. ??

>> seth: i'm so happy you're here. >> i'm so happy to be here. >> seth: now, "mr. robot" is a fantastic show. this is a very exciting show. >> thank you. thank you. >> seth: and i've heard that your part -- you shot your part and it took a toll on you. >> it did. i felt like the bulk of my stuff was shot over, like, what felt like five days. >> seth: which is intense to do all your work like that. >> yeah. yeah. so by the end i ended up in the hospital with a concussion at 7:00 in the morning. >> seth: how -- now how did you concuss yourself? were you doing a stunt? >> well i can't tell you. it's a spoiler. >> seth: oh, it's a spoiler. >> yeah, it was a stunt though. >> seth: so, wow. and -- but it obviously did not go great. >> i mean -- [ light laughter ] >> seth: do you -- >> i think -- >> seth: have you often done your own stunts? or was this a new thing? >> yeah, i do all my own stunts. >> seth: okay. [ light laughter ] by the way they might not let you again if you ended up in the hospital. >> no, i know. i don't think so. >> seth: i do all my one stunt.

>> my one's and it's done. >> seth: but you mentioned spoilers, you can't tell me. in general this is a show, cause we had rami on, it's -- there are so many twists and turns. >> yeah. >> seth: do people try to get out of you what happened on the show? >> yeah, it's weird. they're, like, scared of being surprised. >> seth: yeah. >> so they want to know, but they really don't want to know. >> seth: yes. >> and even when i watch it with people in the room, they're asking me all these questions, and i can't -- i obviously can't tell them. because i'm like, do you want to know or not. >> seth: that's like watching anything with my mother. questions. >> yeah. [ laughter ] >> seth: sometimes about the show. sometimes about different stuff. >> and you have no idea. [ laughter ] >> seth: it's just incessant questions. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. yes. >> seth: so, you play an fbi agent. you had not seen season one, so when you got this role -- >> yeah. >> seth: how did you prepare? you did not watch the show to prepare. >> i did not watch the show. i had heard about it. i thought it was a sci-fi show. >> seth: yeah. >> yeah. >> seth: "mr. robot." yeah, i get it. yeah. [ light laughter ] >> i watched a show called "the

>> seth: interesting. [ laughter ] now, is that sci-fi? >> i might research it. i don't know if you guys are fans. >> seth: that's all real sci-fi. >> that's also sci-fi. >> seth: there's a different planet, much like earth. >> right. [ laughter ] >> seth: and did you -- was that to inform the new jerseyness of your character? >> yeah, totally. >> seth: okay. >> so, i got the -- i got the jers down. >> seth: and did you kind of bring the new jersey to your audition? was that? >> i did, but i toned it down a little bit. >> seth: okay. from "real housewives?" >> yeah. i mean like, yeah. >> seth: that's probably, yeah. from the clip you could tell "real housewivwo >> seth: also, fbi agent. you got to shoot some guns. you got gun training. >> i did gun training -- >> seth: okay. >> out here in brooklyn. >> seth: how was gun training? >> it was terrifying. >> seth: yeah. >> but what i really didn't like about it was that i enjoyed it. >> seth: right. that shooting a gun is kick ass and all. >> yeah. like, it feels good in your hands, and you want to go back and do it more and be really good at it. so, i hated that part of it. >> seth: yeah. cause you were worried that you were going to become a gun owner and -- >> yeah. >> seth: and just like yeah.

>> seth: are you now? you have to tell us. [ laughter ] >> it's a spoiler. >> seth: you were so confident i found it hard to believe you don't have a gun. [ laughter ] >> but yeah. the -- no, i went in there and i started talking a bunch of smack about the nra. >> seth: oh, that's probably not super smart. >> that's not smart. no, and then i realized that they -- i mean the guy that was training me was like, well you know that we're all -- i was like no, no i like you. it's not about you. i like you. [ laughter ] >> seth: right. so you're like, i don't want to hear this gun range. have yourd >> yeah, and trust. >> seth: yeah, we know. you -- so you have a sister -- i have a brother that i -- people confuse us all the time because we look a fair amount alike. >> yeah. >> seth: he's also an actor. your sister is also an actor. >> yes. >> seth: you guys look a lot alike. >> yes. but when we're next to each other we don't look that much. you don't -- >> seth: oh, really? >> i mean that's just not really. >> seth: i'm gonna bring this up, and here's the thing i'm going to say about this. [ laughter ] i don't know which one you are. [ laughter ]

oh, but this, your sister is older, though, yes? >> she's older, yeah. >> seth: so and do you feel like she's rocking your style or you're rocking hers? >> for sure. >> seth: really? >> always, always stealing my stuff. >> seth: now this gaps obviously -- how much is the age difference? >> she's three years older. >> seth: okay, gotcha. >> she's older. >> seth: she's older. yeah, yeah. we're going to hammer that home. when did you guys start -- did you always look alike, or is this a thing? >> no. we didn't look alike when we were little. we were really, really different. and i don't know. time just went by and we started looking alike. femaling somebody. >> i know, it's very weird. >> seth: and then do you -- but do people compliment you on her work and vice versa? >> yes. to the point where now i just accept the compliment of being really good on "the good wife." >> seth: yeah. you got to take it. >> yeah. >> seth: if she's going to jack your style, you got to take the compliment. >> i know. i mean i'm sure she's taking the "mr. robot" compliments. >> seth: yeah. and then are you -- when you guys were young, were you the kind of sisters who would do shows and performances? >> yeah. we would do shows and

the usher was an exciting role for her at that age. >> seth: well at that age, yeah. you don't know that actual stars very rarely also take tickets. >> yes, exactly. [ laughter ] and the star and the, you know, the lead. everything. >> seth: and so she was obviously was in charge of casting. >> she was in charge of casting so i was naturally the mute slave or the dog. >> seth: oh, gotcha. what sort of plays were you doing? [ laughter ] this next play is called "beautiful woman and dog slave." [ laughter ] tickets, please. >> twoom >> seth: well, i guess that's only fair then that all these years later she would try to copy your style, you know? >> yeah. i mean, yeah. she owes me. >> seth: she owes you big-time. >> thanks. >> seth: congratulations on the show. >> thank you. >> seth: and it's so lovely to meet you. >> it's so lovely to meet you too. >> seth: i'm a fan and i really look forward to seeing all those twists and spoilers of this season two of "mr. robot." >> thank you. yeah. i'm not gonna tell you anything. >> seth: which is not a sci-fi show. grace gummer everybody. "mr. robot" airs wednesday at 10pm on usa. we'll be right back with more "late night." [ cheers and applause ] ?? eers and applause ]

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