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on this edition of "our world with back enterprise," a mu music mogul is also finding success in other areas. and can blacks and latinos co-exist. and a female sports agent who's carving her own niche. up next. ♪ our world motors ♪ our world ♪ our worl ♪ our world creating timeless music propelled the career of music mogul kadar massenberg.

as the former ceo of motown, the entertainment executive is credited with coining the term "neosoul." during his time at motown, he helped revitalize the historic label and launched and shaped the careers of such stars as deangelo, erykah badu and india arie. back in the day did you always dream and envision yourself in a particular place? >> well, i always envisioned myself not having to answer to anyone. that's the difference. i didn't know if which area i was going to be in. can't say it was music, or wine or what have you. i knew thatt to get involved with, i would be at the top of my game. >> what beabout entertainment dw you in? >> a put a group together when i was a teenager.

russell and leo took the group, managed them, after school i took the group back. i think it was the love for the music initially and message that they gave because the one thing about me that a lot of people fail to realize is that everything i do have a cultural aspect to it. it is not just about the money. >> you also came up, in if you think about it, what will be looked at as a golden time of black executives in the music industry. there was a wave of you cats that came in, like l.a., yourself, russell, who really kind of changed the dynamic. talk to me about being part of that? >> i think it was a good time. think it was a time when they were giving away money and not necessarily knowing who they were giving the money away too. i think those who were educated enough and steadfast enough still survive today. the ones that didn't fall by the wayside. but during those times i think that they were looking for anyone that they think could show them the light of the tunnel with black music. >> talk to me about heading such an ironic company as motown. >> interesting about motown,

when i first took it over -- i really had a chance between universal and motown and i chose motown. but before i went to motown, i called pastor, said listen, i need your blessings. like the elders. i need your blessings, the chairman, berry gordy. i thought it was a blessing and i thought that motown kind of lost some of its luster. by infusing it with new artists and taking it in a soulful direction, that's always been the music of young america, then i could help. >> what about the idea of -- and these are kind of urban legends, but many have said that you were the person who coined "neosoul." talk to me about the whole genre and dynamic and wave of what that did for black america. >> many people say it, but it is not many people. it is a fact. i did coin the phrase. i coined the phrase from a young artist that i put out that i was responsible for cultivating his

image. deangelo. when deangelo came, there was to me a certain level of just ignorance out there. i don't want to say jerry curls or anything, but some of the culture had left. i said, you know what? deangelo, you should wear corn rows. put him in the leather jacket that was reminiscent of marvin g gaye. there was ericaai erykah badu. she had the turban. >> you branched out beyond cultural entertainment to get into a very interesting i think, particularly for african-americans, avenue. and that is wine. give us a sense of why you wanted to go that route. >> well, basically it is the same thing as music. it is compatible. what happened is that i was consulting a beverage company and i saw they were selling lots of syrupy things.

when i looked at wines and benefits of it, i said, hey, i want to get into that. beside the fact i never really had a glass of wine before i put out "chorus." yellowtail was the first to really market or really advertise. i'm like, hey, yellowtail, hey, that's easy, i'll go to the liquor stay and say give me this and feel intelligent. but if you took a young lady out to dinner and you said, hey, let me see your wine list, what kind of cabernet sauvignon you have, she'll be more impressed with that. >> let me take you back to the entertainment size. because you have really gotten back in full force to a great degree -- >> man, i know. i know. >> -- to a greet degree. talk to me about why you wanted to and what you have seen on the horizon that is really a shift change, a sea change, in how

things are done in the entertainment world. >> i think as these conglomerates and major distributors see how they're being weakened by the sales, what have you, it gives these artists leverage to go in and say this is what we are going to do, had is what we are not going to do. then in the end of the day you could say you have a particular artist that sells 700,000 records, whatever, you might get $1 million, $1.5 million advances, what have you. but they don't really have no equity in it. they think joint venture but they@?c don't have any true ownership. >> one of the things i was most impressed by in terms of what you wanted to do -- and again your understanding of culture and history -- you went to find people who had track records and you knew that that audience was there, you knew talent was there. speak to me about the importance of keeping that sense of not just history, but the iconic nature of it. >> the most important thing that is always taught in music, radio's the most important thing. but companies that own radio stations and you look at what

they're trying to do, they try to get advertisers. take joe. an incredible artist. everybody know he's got the best voice out there. it's sad that he can'tne nes necessarily go to r&b mainstream because program directors that work for these companies say, hey, this is what you should be playing. so i think understanding what we have and being able to go to that direct market and your target audience. because what happens a lot of times, it is not that, you know, we don't support each other. it's not that. it's that some of the companies don't support the artists, for example, you don't get to know that chico debarge album is out, because it might be incredible, because mainstream radio don't want to play it or some other cable stations, music stations i won't name, oh, he's not cool enough, whatever, but whose family has a history and he has a history. so i understand that part of

getting it out there and going into alternative marketing. that's where the internet comes in. because the internet has become the great equalizer, in my mind. it's my friend. it's the record companies' enemy. >> is the tug-of-war between blacks and browns a thing of the past? that's up next on our roundtable. >> puerto ricans have a problem with race. but that doesn't mean that puerto ricans aren't part of th that. camry received 5 star crash safety ratings. but only malibu has onstar. big deal. i'll just use my phone. let's say we crashed. whoops, you lost your phone and you're disiented. i'm not disoriented. now you are. onstar automatic crash response can call to see if you're ok. onstar emergency. is everything ok howie? you don't answer, they can automatically se help to your exact location. i think i'll ride with you. the award-winning malibu. from chevy.

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♪ our world some people say the common struggle for equality should bring all minorities together. and many of those same people say that, for blacks and latinos, it goes deeper. there is a thought that, because of certain commonalities, there should be a greater bond. is that bond changing? if so, what does this mean for the future of blacks and browns in this country? in t issuentry? are -- marian jiminez raman, director of the afro-latino forum. david lamb, and malee garcia hos family appeared racist against her african-american boyfriend. tell me whether or not we have romanticized this whole notion of blacks and browns needing to play together in a different way. >> no. i done think it is romantic at all. historically there actually has been a bond.

it's only in recent years, i'd say in the last 20 years, that you see a confrontational paradigm being developed. >> david, talk to me about, first, the reason that you wrote this play. i suspect it goes back to part and parcel where you grew up. >> yes, absolutely. i grew up in new york city in astoria, queens, astoria projects. our neighborhood was very much african-american and puerto rican. and cultures mixed tremendously. many of my friends growing up were puerto rican. i grew up during the creation of hip-hop. hip-hop culture comes really out of the interactions between blacks and latinos. so i wanted to write about that. >> so for all of the notions that we say that we're moving toward a homogenized society, there is still this vestige of separation, if you will. talk to me about your personal experience. >> my experience has been that, with my family, they love and accept everyone. in general.

so with my grandparents, since they're from the island, they are a little more old school. their basic idea is this is okay for now, but in the long term when you plan to settle down, get married, have children, you need to stay within the race. but whether it comes down to family, they made it seem more like my responsibility or my duty to keep it clean or to keep it pure, if that's even a good word to say. but to keep it basically just puerto rican. they even -- they would even suggest that they prefer not -- for me to not step out of that puerto rican boundary also. not even dominican or anything other than puerto rican. >> david, interestingly, your title speaks to a specific in that this country has not been able to celebrate differences. how do we bring that together? >> well, the play which comes out of a book i wrote. my answer to people was, yes, they go together if you have the right recipe.

recipe is love and respect. flatanos is a slang term for dominicans in new york city that other latinos use. in a sense, i'm getting at commonality. what on the face is different, but when you dig deeper it is commonality. because all throughout west africa, and southern africa, people eat flatanos. all throughout caribbean people eat them. all throughout south america. the ones who don't are those here who had them taken from them. >> what about what david suggests? there is this connection that all of us don't necessarily see and see the connection, in all of the bloodlines that really run through all of us to a great degree. >> it goes even deeper. if you're looking at the americans, for example -- and this is something that still -- i've been saying it for over 20 years and whenever i say it, people look at me in shock. of the 50 million enslaved africans brought to the americas, 95% ended up in latin america in the caribbean. only 4% ended up in what is now

the united states. so the africa is so much a part of being latin american and caribbean. for example, what maylee is talking about now that her parents object to going outside of being puerto rican, well, puerto ricans have a problem with race, but that doesn't mean that puerto ricans are not part of that african diaspra. it is more acknowledgement of it. we do have a serious problem in the latino community of african-americans. >> it is more my family that didn't receive his race. >> what the the importance of finding commonalities and linking together without losing one's self? >> i was to emphasize again that latinos include a broad range of people. many of us are of african decent. very proud of being of african decent. live our lives socially as black

folk and can probably serve as a very important bridge between these two communities, both exposing the racism that exists within the latino community, letting people know that there is no such thing as white race, especially within the context of latin america. and to speak of purity is an absurdity for all of us, because as anybody else. those eyes did not come from the congo. we are all -- >> i was out in that field, man. >> we have very differences in imperialism, colonialism. these are all things that unite us. one of the fundamental things is to understand that we are not separate groups, that in fact most of our lives, most of our history, has been one of -- >> she brings up a good point. to pick up the point, david, but for african-americans, to a great degree -- and your point is well-taken -- there is

probably something in the back of your mind that you want somebody below you on that rung to a great degree. >> well, there is very much a need to versus a we were here first syndrome. over and over again we're pitted against each other because that's the way the system is set up. >> maylee, here's the interesting point that i wonder about for you. you and your boyfriend have a child. >> we have a daughter. >> for her, do you concern yourself with the idea of what she will walk in to, how do we raise her, will she have this tug between the worlds? >> for my daughter, i'd like to see her basically just grow up in the world and have her accepted for who she is. she is his panpanic. she's gorgeous. i'd like to see her accepted for who she is. >> we certainly hope that. as we said, without sounding too

pollyanna, even from a selfish side, it all works much easier if we all work together. i thank you all for joining us today. we greatly appreciate it. take a break here. when we return, a gold medal agent. back in a moment. >> getting back on that plane, knowing that, wow, i coned management, came home with eight medals for our country, i had so much pride and dignity.

♪ our world the male-dominated sports arena had to take notice in 2002 when a woman stood front and center and founded icon sports management. as you are about to see, it is not just her gender that makes her different. kimberly holland is our "slice of life." no one can break kimberly holland's stride. president and ceo of icon management, she is at the top of her game. agent, manager, and mother figure to some of the nation's most gifted olympians. holland attended regent university law school and after serving as a legislative aide to senator edward kennedy, she then took a stint at a paralegal at laface records where she found entertainment was her game.

>> he was at the 2000 olympics, won a silver medal, approached me about athlete representation. since i had no interest in sports, i kindly referred him to an agent. >> reporter: when that relationship didn't work, terrance approached kimberly again, this time after serious consideration, kimberly agreed. >> i became certified in 2002 while i was in law school and started icon management, inc. >> reporter: and considering she's one of only a handful of female sports agents in the country, she was immediately confronted with sexism. >> she should be someplace, married with kids, at home baking cookies. but certainly not here trying to broker responsible deals. so i was told, okay, well she's been around, she has some good athletes in the beginning but she won't last. >> reporter: but she did last. and seven years after founding her agency, holland is still

running strong. in fact, at the 2008 olympic games in beijing, five of her clients brought home medals. >> getting back on that plane knowing that, wow, icon management came home with ehtht medals for our country, i had so much pride and dignity and i just knew, this is where i was supposed to be. >> reporter: the success continues for icon management. black enterprise named kimberly holland one of the most intriguing people in business in 2008. today, she plans to expand into athletic management with additional sports divisions for the nfl, and the nba. lashawn mer rritt chose icon management after meeting with several prominent agents. >> evander holyfield, i phoned

him and his mom in atlanta to try to recruit him. kind of showed him his big $22 million. said all of this can be yours if you come under my management. he was telling me this. wow, 18 years old you weren't really in awe over that? i mean why me. he said he felt god had led him to me. >> he said, "kimberly is my family." >> i did say my request to her. some of my coaches come to her because she leads me in the right direction. we'll be back right after this.

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the national fair housing alliance.